Also they're no Others anymore and no Wildings left that aren't with John and Tormund

The Giants are all dead too

And the rumored ice spiders

Pretty sure you don't have to spoil tag Hold the Door

I prefer pics in spoilers, saves space.

His name is Reek

The Nights Watch is like the annoying kid you give an unplugged controller to just to get them to shut up and let them think they're playing or doing something.

Can't wait for the spin off show where they tease giant ice spiders for 6 seasons, then have them in one throwaway episode in the middle of a season.

Besides, once again, there are time lapses they clearly aren't addressing. With the constantly referenced shit pacing, the story appears to happen in the span of like two days. The only hint of time passing is Jon's beard going from well groomed to bushier and unkempt. It was a better signifyer when Tyrion was in jail/smuggled to Essos, as he went from clean shaven to hermit in however long all that journey from Joffrey's death to meeting Danerys took. Since he now looks like that all the time, there's no way to tell how long they kept him. Two days? Two months?

All that to say this: wall contruction could have been underway. You don't just go stomping through the busy zone like an asshole when you can just use a door. Also, assuming how they framed the final shots, all of this is happening in parallel. The Wildfolk might have actually helped rebuild in exchange for help getting resettled in their lands. Who knows? They could have been there for months before heading out, but the show made it look like he made it from prison to the wilds in like an hour.

As for where the wall came down, it's safe to assume the writers forgot that part, so we can assume the hole moved to Castle Black.

Also funny is all the recent focus on Grey Worm's... uh, worm. Guess the Red Woman brought "this one" back for a reason, too. That reason being to at least get some head from Missandei before she lost hers.

Finished season 8, yesterday.

Episode 3 was the best of the bunch; it left me physically exhausted once it was finished. But it does not make up for what has already been said in the thread: rushed character development, specifically Daenerys' change to become the mad queen; odd pacing, etc.

I think ultimately GoT falls under the same category as the "reimagined" Battlestar Galactica series: great journey; shitty ending.

Latest George R.R. Martin news:

"Martin has teamed with the entertainment company Meow Wolf to develop new psychedelic theme park attractions. In his role as Chief World Builder, Martin will craft the story and world behind the theme parks."


He's never gonna finish these books now

I like how the build up for his new books is just like the build up the TV show had for the White Walkers.

He’s probably got the books written. Or at least he did until he saw the reaction to the TV show, now he just needs to do a quick rewrite. Played it very well.

You think the reason he has taken decades to get this far and still not finish is that somehow he's just waiting atop a pile of finished manuscripts that just need a "quick rewrite"?

Yes.

D&D have taken all the vitriol for the shit ending, GRRM writes a totally different ending, gets called a genius.

He seems like a guy who sits surrounded by great tomes of handwritten mythology who has no idea how to edit it into a suitable state for sequel publication.

I doubt he is anywhere near his desired conclusion. The show ending may give him more time but I think he's the biggest GOT fan around and he has a weird, massive imagination and a real problem with procrastinating from specific tasks...like finishing Winds of Winter.

The Tale of Scroty McBoogerballs.

How would people feel if he just had JK Rowling finish it?

Wonder which characters were secretly GAY

Hodor.

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Has anyone made the Clegane brothers/Undertaker &a Kane comparison yet? I feel like I just realised this but may have actually heard it before or that it's common knowledge.