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They had a few other matches in 94 which ended in count out, 2 for hogan, one for piper.
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I had no idea that match happened
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In pure wrestling shit housery terms I'm kinda excited for Schrodingers Okada right now. Hes both amazing and shit and which one he will be longterm depends on whether he signs for the company you Stan for.
Him signing back with NJPW feels like the funniest outcome for me. |
Apparently Ken Shamrock is back in the WWE fold? They’re selling merchandise for him or something. He’s a pretty obvious HOF pick post-TKO merger.
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Pretty pleased with that. Always one of the weirder “blacklisted” guys given who they’ve had back over the years.
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Wonder if Ken Shamrock would "snap" during a HoF acceptance speech. Most certainly he would start "bleeding internally".
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Only if JR does the commentary talking about "he's got some broken ribs for sure"
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I never understood what happened with Shamrock and WWE. There has never been anything about a big blow up or double cross. It is not like Shamrock left for WCW either. He was just gone and never brought back at all.
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I know he left to train for some MMA at one point. His Wikipedia seems to reflect that. I know this was the case with D’Lo Brown, but did Shamrock get busted talking to WCW or something? I have vague memories of there being some sort of backstage politics factor involved. Plus he was always a Bret/Rock guy.
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Then again, Dana hated Tito Ortiz at one point and still inducted him into the HOF. I think Shamrock going into the WWE HOF would be more Triple H doing business without needing Vince's approval. |
Happy New Year to the Dubbs of The People's.
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I don’t think it’s been posted yet, but Kevin Dunn has given his notice to WWE.
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Really hoping the Rock return doesn't mean Cody doesn't get too "finish the story" at Wrestlemania now.
Anything but dethroning Reigns kind of feels like a consolation prize. |
If Rock beats Roman for the titles it would be the dumbest decision they could make.
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Rock should beat CM Punk on his way to main eventing WM and beating Roman
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Priest cashes in on The Rock.
Achieves: - Roman being defeated - The Rock not being able to stick around - "fuckery" that will allow Reigns to get right back in the mix - Gives Priest a brag about how he beat The Rock at WM for the title |
I'm down with that.
The mrs and I have started mentally preparing to see Cody (big meh for both of us) win the title in person. What you proposed would be much better for us. |
I only watched last years wrestlemania but thought the WM40 storyline should have went with Sami Zayn winning.
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If they are gonna have multi-day rasslemania, they should make WM day 1 a "tournament" to see who faces Reigns on day 2.
Involve all of his biggest rivals who have been "screwed" and have legit "gripes" with him/Bloodline. Cody Rhodes Sami Zayn Jey Uso Kevin Owens LA Knight Drew McIntyre Randy Orton I guess one more guy needed. AJ Styles I guess. I'd have Sami win, it would be a great way to get him back any semblance of the heat he had last year when he should have won the RR and beat Reigns. |
I know there is the Royal Rumble winner too, and by all logic the winner of the RR should go for the richest prize which is clearly Reigns.... but CM Punk chose RAW over SD even though logically to prove he is "the best in the world" he should have chosen SD to take down Reigns.... so he has already gone against "logic" which means that Punk can win the Rumble and face Rollins for the second rate world title.
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The Reigns storyline is starting to feel like HHH Raw reign in that it feels like multiple chances to make someone have been missed.
Sami, Cody, whichever Uso, LA Knight. It hasnt felt lifeless the way Trips reign was because hes not dominating all TV weekly but it still seems WWE is unable to push themselves to strike when the irons hot for a new guy. Having him drop the title to the Rock would be a massive misstep. Maybe they will re use the Brock/Goldberg Mania storyline. I would much rather see someone get the clean pin over Roman though. |
I will say they have built up a nice crop of guys for the fans to get behind once Reigns finally drops the belt.
Can't really get invested in Rollins' world title or anything with that.... but once Reigns drops the title and you've got all those names I just listed mixing it up and actually able to win the world title, I think "business will pick up" |
The Rock vs Roman doesn't need the title. It's for the Head of the Table. Cody finishing the story means winning the WWE Title, not defeating Roman. Nonetheless, The Rock being involved, if he actually is, messes up a lot of things for WrestleMania with regard to the trajectory and longer term stories of multiple people in both title pictures.
I still somewhat think calling out Roman was for the viral moment more than anything. Just like when he mentioned it to Pat McAfee on College Gameday. They're all about social media views, clicks, and the revenue those bring in through advertisers above all it seems. Unless, the match is at Elimination Chamber. Don't think The Rock would agree to anything but WrestleMania though. |
Rock vs Roman is likely for Perth. That doesn't mean that Rock doesn't have a Wrestlemania match lined up. I am thinking of one person I would absolutely give a match to on that big a stage. Yeah!
If that actually happens, I am starting a newsletter. |
Start one anyways. If it doesn't happen you just get to say "plans change".
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Ziggles to NJPW
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It's crazy to me how dirt sheet writers have made a living on not actually knowing anything.
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It has to be Cody at Mania, otherwise there would have been no reason to keep them apart from each other since the Mania match. They haven't touched once since that match, if they weren't going back to it there is no reason not to have had the big money rematch.
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Bigger money rematch = Rock vs (literally anyone here).
But I also don't "get" Cawdy. |
He's a classic NWA style babyface who is very good at emotionally connecting with an audience.
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He will be a heel before the end of the year.
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Someone on these boards said it best I think... Cody is fantastic at playing a character but not that great when he tries to play himself. |
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Lets not forget that mania is no longer the be all, end all for major wwe shows. They're going to want some big match ups for those other stadium shows. Summerslam and rhe Saudi shows have becomebig enough events to be the backdrop for Roman vs Rock. But Cody has to win at mania. They've done really good job at keeping Cody over and fans invested in the story, but the longer you wait, the more you risk the fans getting tired and losing interest. Cody beats Roman at mania, and in a number of ways, it could serve as the catalyst for rock vs roman. |
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Hell, that exists with Reigns now, with the amount of interference that goes on in nearly all of his matches. I haven't done the math, but nearly every single defense, the end is the same: interference from someone, will they / won't they, Reigns retains. Rock v Reigns, even for a lapsed casual fan, has WAY more appeal than Cody v Reigns, which only appeals to those who already regularly watch and know the "long story", if they even remember. |
Riddle for NJPW seems like a good get. He might fit well there with his legit background.
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I imagine HHH has had the top Mania matches planned for a little while now but they won’t have planned to have Punk or Rock (if they actually do have him). So this could really be a case of “plans change”.
I’d be quite down for Cody “finishing the story” beating Roman at Mania, Roman going off the deep end with The Bloodline stuff and Rock coming in to challenge for “Head of the Table” at SummerSlam finally closing that storyline off. I don’t think you have Rock take the title off Reigns. It’s too big of a “feather in the cap” to give to a guy just coming in for a short run. How do you get the belt off him? I’ve seen a cash in by Priest to move the belt off Rock but again, this title win should be the thing that cements someone in the “top spot” not a cheap win via MITB. Reminds me of The Streak win going to Lesnar and the big win over Lesnar was…Taker. Had the chance to really cement someone with the win over Taker at Mania (and you could argue it took Lesnar to another level anyway) or the win over Lesnar subsequently. They’ve got themselves into a nice place where there are a number of guys “bubbling under”. Cody, Seth, Punk, Knight, Jey Uso, rumours of Sami being positioned into a title contender, Drew who you can fold in. Really interesting road to WrestleMania. |
Also, lol at the rumours that HHH’s announcement was going to be a working relationship with TNA and ended up being MITB announced for Toronto. Talk about getting carried away.
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Yeah not sure why they are hyping up a PPV location as a big announcement. Of all the things they could copy from AEW, hyped up lame announcements is not what they should be rolling with.
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That was a weird fuss to make over a location. I wonder if the arena paid for it, because it does seem to be a week in that building.
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I don't even mean that as a knock on him. I'm being serious in the same way the whole nebulous "criminal activity" thing pops up for certain people trying to work up in Canada. Riddle makes even HALF the extracarricular noise over there than he did here in the States, and they'll prob'ly toss his ass into the ocean faster than any plane would land to cart him away civilly. |
Cody wins the belt in Australia, I think. Roman doesn’t want to wrestle Rock, so Rock makes it personal. Rock gets to endorse the younger guy.
Rock vs. Roman is something you know they’ve wanted to do forever and a day. It will go back through their lives, their football days, Rock raising Roman’s arm, etc. I don’t agree that is them throwing away story. The video package for Rock and Roman is likely going to be a special one. |
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I think Punk wore black trunks in MSG for a reason. I think he calls out Austin after failing to win the Rumble. It won’t be a heated feud or anything, but it could tell a great story. Punk doesn’t get his Mania main event. He needs to sharpen his claws. It could be the biggest mistake of his life, since he could realistically get his ass kicked, but to be the Best in the World he needs to defeat the best of all-time. The other icon of Attitude.
Austin shows up and aw hell son, it was all nice and quiet on the Broken Skull Ranch until he heard his name being hollered. |
I was hoping the announcement would be a TV announcement with lip service paid to the Money in the Bank thing. And then MJF crashes the show!
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I decided to check out how TNA’s Hard to Kill card was shaping up.
* I’m kind of done with Brian Myers. He’s in a tag team with Eddie Edwards. They’re going against Frankie Kazarian & Eric Young. I’m sure it will be solid work, but it’s hard to care about these teams. They all have more preferred partners lol. It would be funny if Davey Richards, Matt Cardona, Scorpio Sky, etc. all showed up. * Crazzy Steve is still around. He’s having a hardcore match against Tommy Dreamer, who is still around. Not that interesting to me. * Rich Swann vs. Steve Maclin. A match between two former TNA “World” Champs. * There’s a giant clusterfuck for the tag belts. Eh, it looks like a slightly better than scene than AEW. Mike Bailey & Trent Seven in a team is interesting. They’ve got the Grizzled Young Vets too. Eh. * Chris Sabin is defending the X-Division Title against El Hijo del Vikingo and Kushida. Two smaller guys you’ve at least heard of. * There’s a Women’s Ultimate X match. A stronger scene than the AEW one, I’m sure. * Dirty Dango vs. PCO. A match between two legends. * Alex Hammerstone is apparently doing something with TNA. I’m glad to see he hasn’t fallen into the trap of signing with AEW. He’s going against Josh Alexander. Will Ospreay must have gotten pulled, which is a shame for them. * Trinity vs. Jordynne Grace. I’m not invested, but TNA has always had the “better” women’s wrestling outside WWE. * Alex Shelley vs. Moose should probably be solid. You’d think Moose would be taking the belt here, right? I wonder if there will be any surprises? There are a bunch of WWE talent that could be free, maybe even a Kamille or Richard Holliday too. |
No Joe Hendry on the card? I suspect he’ll end up somewhere. Maybe in a match with Bully Ray or something?
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Joe Hardy in the Impact Zone!
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BAH GAWD!!!!!
HE's BITING HIM REF!!!! GET IN THERE AND STOP THAT!!!! THAT DASTARDLY SUMBITCH! |
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TK going nanners again. This time he's trying to hinder Jinder.
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USA Network appears to have started it with a legit question. I mean, what was the cagematch rating?
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What if this series of tweets from Tony leads to Jinder becoming the next LA Knight!?
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I don’t think it will get that far (no one really cares about AEW), but holy fuck is Tony Khan fucking stupid.
First of all, it’s not a double-standard that people prefer the better overall product. It betrays you don’t know how to book. Hook getting 28 wins against nobodies doesn’t mean shit. You haven’t brought him along any and it shows. Jinder just traded fisticuffs in an angle with The Rock. And it’s more blame the fans shit. Like they’re somehow at fault for not liking oranges when they enjoy apples. He doesn’t fucking get it. At all. And he brags about not getting it. |
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Miss Gertners GIFs :(
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what's up with like 1,000 guests viewing this thread rn...
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Maybe there's lewds somewhere in here.
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RP BBC pics driving traffic
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For people who missed it, Nic Nemeth bypassed AEW and chose to go to TNA.
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I saw a clip of Bryan Alvarez wearing a cap for his podcast. Is he also balding, or is he just doing it to help Dave cover up?
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Fucking wild week for WWE. Rock on the TKO board, huge! WWE to Netflix, massive! The turd Vince took on a staff member, immense.
Brock being implicated feels like it changed the Mania card. Frankly this coming out may change the Mania card by keeping Rock off of it. |
Slim Jim aren't the only ones passing around meat sticks.
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I watched some TNA recently. YouTube clips, since I’m not sure if TNA is any better off than AEW in terms of Australian exposure. It looked…good. Nothing blow-away, but I could watch more.
They actually try to work matches over there. It wasn’t just choreographed flips. They try and honor the basics. I’m not sure if they still do cinematic matches over music videos and have murder and all that on their show. That would turn me off. Josh Alexander and Will Ospreay had a cracking match. They even tried to incorporate a table organically. And they made a point of the referee using their discretion to keep the match going. I dunno, I’m rooting for TNA. More so than lazy AEW anyway. |
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Now that he's in TNA, there's still time to change to white gear, bring a bicycle pump, and have music that only plays while he moves (old "Dig Duggler" joke that nobody here even remembers). |
In a sentiment I've stated elsewhere:
It's pretty wild that Naomi's return was bolstered by acknoledgement that she was, in fact, a former TNA's women's champion... and then a few spots later, CURRENT TNA ladies* champ Jordynne Grace shows up. Just a decade ago, AJ Styles had to go to NJPW to wash the proverbial "stink" of TNA off of him before heading to WWE and any iteration of TNA and/or Impact was "persona non grata". Now, we just have folks from the promotion just able to show up on a PPV without a backalley trade (that thing where there was a one-night swap for Christian for Ric Flair) or pretending they just fell off the planet the entire time they were working there (up to and including the time RVD showed up in both places the same week). *I actually accidentally wrote " ladie's " and considered not correcting it. Maybe might do it on purpose in the future. |
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That's in a parallel universe. The same universe where Owen Hart became The Game.
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It has become a lot more tolerable while nobody was looking. There's still shit that is pretty "meh", but unfortunately that is everywhere anymore. Feels weird that rebranding back to TNA is, to them, a step forward... but aside from that, they seem to be doing more earnestly what AEW was supposed to be doing before TK decided to try to convince everyone that everything is great! :ding: |
Yeah, nothing is really blowing me away, but it’s way better than AEW, which is so self-assured even though it is just white noise. And looking away for a long time has actually helped.
The rebranding is not something I thought I would be behind, but I guess there are young adults and wrestlers now who have known TNA their entire lives. It’s weird to think of it as having some sort of nostalgia value. |
@Noid what do you think of The Rock now? Been interested to hear your thoughts on the matter and you haven't come to the new forums....
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The Rock being back in any capacity is sort of surreal. You don’t get performers like him and we’re spoilt to have him back. I think it’s cute some fans still take wrestling serious enough that they’re invested enough to get this bent out of a shape of a perceived sleight against Cody not having the biggest match at Mania.
I’d have Cody cut a promo on Seth about their history and how Cody can see the moves if he chose Roman. Paul Heyman would call the same number Seth has always had and The Shield would band together at least for one night to make sure Cody doesn’t win the belt. So Cody has to give Seth his main event, and he kind of hates him for that. As for Roman/Rock, I do hope the match over-delivers. I’d honestly be happy for Rock to win. |
I have seen some non-rassling fans or casual rassling fans post on Facebook about how they are excited about The Rock, so I get it... but yeah, a lot of the more "serious" rassling fans are upset...
Personally I don't care about Cody being "slighted" because I still don't like the guy that much... but I do care about the whole Roman story and feel "so bad" that it was "so hot" last year and had a potential "perfect end" with Zayn beating Roman at WM.... but then Cody got the shot instead and didn't win, and then the entire Bloodline story and everyone involved was cooled down to the point where a potential Cody/Roman rematch was just "Ugh, just end it and have Cody win" A Rock/Roman match does have the potential to get some heat back, but I honestly wouldn't be happy for a Rock win... would just totally derail any potential "star making moment" that beating Roman would have. Which, to be fair, has already been derailed a good deal by randomly making another World Title and cooling the whole story down. Also, Cody/Seth really have to turn around their feud/match with some good promos. Rollins cut a good promo on RAW hyping up his phony title belt.... but then Roman quite easily (verbally) eviscerated Rollins and his title on SD... and Cody comes out and doesn't really disagree with him and says the title he wants is Roman's.... but now he will go away. So hopefully on RAW Cody can actually talk up Rollins' title a little bit and at least TRY to make it seem like he actually does want it. |
Very interested to hear how the "smarkish" WM crowd would respond to a Rock/Roman match....
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Would be "cool" if out of all this we get heel Corporate Rock sticking around a bit
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The video packages for Rock and Roman are going to be out of this world good. There’s a story there that people have been begging to get basically every year since this Roman stuff started. This is what the whole Bloodline thing was leading up to.
Cody was likely never going to get it. They’ll always find a reason to move past him. You don’t get to smash the throne and get away with it. |
On Seth/Cody: I think they should make it about Seth and Cody’s history, going back to NXT when Dusty was there. Seth is obsessed with Cody and has something he needs to prove. If Cody chose Roman, Seth would have screwed him. “You’re goddamn right I would have.” It becomes about a match both guys feel they need to win — Cody to validate himself as the man who can be the business and establish a new belt for Netflix and the future. Seth because Cody just beats him constantly. Both men can use the “I need to beat you” line.
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I don't really watch anymore and I think it's pretty stupid Cody gave up the shot for some reason.
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Also Romans belt represents 2 belts right?
Why don't they have Roman defend the WWE title against Cody and the universal title against the Rock? |
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Yeah, I was hoping they would use the year to build up Sami as a "legit" contender.... instead they cooled him off to the point where he could enter number 30 in the Rumble and only last two minutes and no one would care.
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Once CM punk was injured in the Rumble they should have called an audible to have him win it. Then he gives his speech on Monday.
Roman gloats on Smackdown and then the Rock comes out. |
This is genius creative leading to a Triple Threat at Mania where fall one is for the belt and fall two is for the moniker of Head of the Table.
They’ve put Cody over more by “cucking” him than by any other booking choice they’ve made. Even fans that were indifferent about Cody vs. Roman II are on the #WeWantCody bandwagon. Let’s go back 10 years to Mania 30 where they setup for Batista vs. Orton and we demanded Bryan. 10 years further back and we had HHH vs HBK but we wanted <s>Benoit</s>. And another 10 years with the Bret/Luger/Yoko deal. It’s a Mania tradition at this point. |
I don’t want a Triple Threat. At least when it comes to Rock/Roman/Cody.
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Zero chance they make it a triple threat. The Rock and Roman in a match will absolutely only be one on one. We won't really know if they're going to correct their mistake until the press conference on Thursday.
The Rock needs to challenge Roman for the Head of the Table at WM 41 in Las Vegas next year and also, say that when it comes to the WWE Championship at WM 40, that is Cody's story to finish. |
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One positive from Smackdown is I think The Rock's new shirt is sick.
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Cody to attack and injure Rock at the press conference and sign the contract himself.
Rock, as the People’s Champ, hears what the people are saying and what they want and gives the title match back to Cody. We get night one Cody vs Roman for the belt, Rock vs Roman for “Head of the Table”. Roman loses both, world collapses, goes on hiatus for 6 months. Seth doesn’t need to be in the main event, was only there for Punk. |
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