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Big Vic 11-30-2023 12:14 PM

They had a few other matches in 94 which ended in count out, 2 for hogan, one for piper.

Bad News Gertner 12-02-2023 10:20 AM

I had no idea that match happened

Sting Fan 12-04-2023 08:18 PM

In pure wrestling shit housery terms I'm kinda excited for Schrodingers Okada right now. Hes both amazing and shit and which one he will be longterm depends on whether he signs for the company you Stan for.

Him signing back with NJPW feels like the funniest outcome for me.

Mr. Nerfect 12-05-2023 04:51 AM

Apparently Ken Shamrock is back in the WWE fold? They’re selling merchandise for him or something. He’s a pretty obvious HOF pick post-TKO merger.

XL 12-05-2023 10:18 AM

Pretty pleased with that. Always one of the weirder “blacklisted” guys given who they’ve had back over the years.

Lock Jaw 12-05-2023 10:57 AM

Wonder if Ken Shamrock would "snap" during a HoF acceptance speech. Most certainly he would start "bleeding internally".

Splaya 12-05-2023 11:06 AM

Only if JR does the commentary talking about "he's got some broken ribs for sure"

xrodmuc316 12-05-2023 01:25 PM

I never understood what happened with Shamrock and WWE. There has never been anything about a big blow up or double cross. It is not like Shamrock left for WCW either. He was just gone and never brought back at all.

Mr. Nerfect 12-05-2023 02:19 PM

I know he left to train for some MMA at one point. His Wikipedia seems to reflect that. I know this was the case with D’Lo Brown, but did Shamrock get busted talking to WCW or something? I have vague memories of there being some sort of backstage politics factor involved. Plus he was always a Bret/Rock guy.

Jordan 12-06-2023 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5638702)
Apparently Ken Shamrock is back in the WWE fold? They’re selling merchandise for him or something. He’s a pretty obvious HOF pick post-TKO merger.

Shamrock and his brother are on the outs with UFC, never mentioned. He deserves his shine though he's a good guy.

Ben Rodrigues 12-06-2023 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan (Post 5638789)
Shamrock and his brother are on the outs with UFC, never mentioned. He deserves his shine though he's a good guy.

This is correct. Ken pissed off Dana a few years ago and Dana publicly went after him for money he owes him.

Then again, Dana hated Tito Ortiz at one point and still inducted him into the HOF.

I think Shamrock going into the WWE HOF would be more Triple H doing business without needing Vince's approval.

Tom Guycott 01-01-2024 06:52 AM

Happy New Year to the Dubbs of The People's.

Mr. Nerfect 01-01-2024 07:35 AM

I don’t think it’s been posted yet, but Kevin Dunn has given his notice to WWE.

Sting Fan 01-02-2024 03:21 AM

Really hoping the Rock return doesn't mean Cody doesn't get too "finish the story" at Wrestlemania now.

Anything but dethroning Reigns kind of feels like a consolation prize.

Big Vic 01-03-2024 02:46 PM

If Rock beats Roman for the titles it would be the dumbest decision they could make.

Lock Jaw 01-03-2024 02:49 PM

Rock should beat CM Punk on his way to main eventing WM and beating Roman

drave 01-03-2024 03:05 PM

Priest cashes in on The Rock.


Achieves:

- Roman being defeated
- The Rock not being able to stick around
- "fuckery" that will allow Reigns to get right back in the mix
- Gives Priest a brag about how he beat The Rock at WM for the title

screech 01-03-2024 03:58 PM

I'm down with that.

The mrs and I have started mentally preparing to see Cody (big meh for both of us) win the title in person.

What you proposed would be much better for us.

Big Vic 01-03-2024 04:39 PM

I only watched last years wrestlemania but thought the WM40 storyline should have went with Sami Zayn winning.

Lock Jaw 01-03-2024 05:29 PM

If they are gonna have multi-day rasslemania, they should make WM day 1 a "tournament" to see who faces Reigns on day 2.

Involve all of his biggest rivals who have been "screwed" and have legit "gripes" with him/Bloodline.

Cody Rhodes
Sami Zayn
Jey Uso
Kevin Owens
LA Knight
Drew McIntyre
Randy Orton

I guess one more guy needed. AJ Styles I guess.

I'd have Sami win, it would be a great way to get him back any semblance of the heat he had last year when he should have won the RR and beat Reigns.

Lock Jaw 01-03-2024 05:29 PM

I know there is the Royal Rumble winner too, and by all logic the winner of the RR should go for the richest prize which is clearly Reigns.... but CM Punk chose RAW over SD even though logically to prove he is "the best in the world" he should have chosen SD to take down Reigns.... so he has already gone against "logic" which means that Punk can win the Rumble and face Rollins for the second rate world title.

Sting Fan 01-03-2024 05:32 PM

The Reigns storyline is starting to feel like HHH Raw reign in that it feels like multiple chances to make someone have been missed.

Sami, Cody, whichever Uso, LA Knight.

It hasnt felt lifeless the way Trips reign was because hes not dominating all TV weekly but it still seems WWE is unable to push themselves to strike when the irons hot for a new guy.

Having him drop the title to the Rock would be a massive misstep. Maybe they will re use the Brock/Goldberg Mania storyline. I would much rather see someone get the clean pin over Roman though.

Lock Jaw 01-03-2024 05:35 PM

I will say they have built up a nice crop of guys for the fans to get behind once Reigns finally drops the belt.

Can't really get invested in Rollins' world title or anything with that.... but once Reigns drops the title and you've got all those names I just listed mixing it up and actually able to win the world title, I think "business will pick up"

The Fraze 01-04-2024 05:29 AM

The Rock vs Roman doesn't need the title. It's for the Head of the Table. Cody finishing the story means winning the WWE Title, not defeating Roman. Nonetheless, The Rock being involved, if he actually is, messes up a lot of things for WrestleMania with regard to the trajectory and longer term stories of multiple people in both title pictures.

I still somewhat think calling out Roman was for the viral moment more than anything. Just like when he mentioned it to Pat McAfee on College Gameday. They're all about social media views, clicks, and the revenue those bring in through advertisers above all it seems. Unless, the match is at Elimination Chamber. Don't think The Rock would agree to anything but WrestleMania though.

Vastardikai 01-04-2024 06:09 AM

Rock vs Roman is likely for Perth. That doesn't mean that Rock doesn't have a Wrestlemania match lined up. I am thinking of one person I would absolutely give a match to on that big a stage. Yeah!

If that actually happens, I am starting a newsletter.

Lock Jaw 01-04-2024 09:15 AM

Start one anyways. If it doesn't happen you just get to say "plans change".

drave 01-04-2024 11:16 AM

Ziggles to NJPW

The Fraze 01-04-2024 11:51 PM

It's crazy to me how dirt sheet writers have made a living on not actually knowing anything.

xrodmuc316 01-05-2024 12:07 AM

It has to be Cody at Mania, otherwise there would have been no reason to keep them apart from each other since the Mania match. They haven't touched once since that match, if they weren't going back to it there is no reason not to have had the big money rematch.

drave 01-05-2024 08:06 AM

Bigger money rematch = Rock vs (literally anyone here).

But I also don't "get" Cawdy.

Fignuts 01-05-2024 09:15 AM

He's a classic NWA style babyface who is very good at emotionally connecting with an audience.

drave 01-05-2024 09:56 AM

He will be a heel before the end of the year.

Lock Jaw 01-05-2024 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5639922)
He's a classic NWA style babyface who is very good at emotionally connecting with an audience.

I just don't get why... he doesn't come across as particularly very genuine or believable.... always sounds rehearsed as hayell

Someone on these boards said it best I think... Cody is fantastic at playing a character but not that great when he tries to play himself.

Fignuts 01-05-2024 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drave (Post 5639916)
Bigger money rematch = Rock vs (literally anyone here).

But I also don't "get" Cawdy.

Maybe, but nowhere near big enough to just throw out two years of storytelling. It's also been said many times now that WWE primarily makes their money off the brand itself as opposed to individual superstars and matches. Not that they don't sell, but they're no longer in a position where they have to shift everything they're doing just to accomodate another possible match up.

Lets not forget that mania is no longer the be all, end all for major wwe shows. They're going to want some big match ups for those other stadium shows. Summerslam and rhe Saudi shows have becomebig enough events to be the backdrop for Roman vs Rock.

But Cody has to win at mania. They've done really good job at keeping Cody over and fans invested in the story, but the longer you wait, the more you risk the fans getting tired and losing interest. Cody beats Roman at mania, and in a number of ways, it could serve as the catalyst for rock vs roman.

drave 01-05-2024 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5639925)
I just don't get why... he doesn't come across as particularly very genuine or believable.... always sounds rehearsed as hayell

Someone on these boards said it best I think... Cody is fantastic at playing a character but not that great when he tries to play himself.

That's pretty accurate I think. Maybe this is what I've tried to convey. To me, his entrance is the best part of his whole package. Like Bobby Roode's theme being more over than he is.

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5639927)
Maybe, but nowhere near big enough to just throw out two years of storytelling. It's also been said many times now that WWE primarily makes their money off the brand itself as opposed to individual superstars and matches. Not that they don't sell, but they're no longer in a position where they have to shift everything they're doing just to accomodate another possible match up.

Lets not forget that mania is no longer the be all, end all for major wwe shows. They're going to want some big match ups for those other stadium shows. Summerslam and rhe Saudi shows have becomebig enough events to be the backdrop for Roman vs Rock.

But Cody has to win at mania. They've done really good job at keeping Cody over and fans invested in the story, but the longer you wait, the more you risk the fans getting tired and losing interest. Cody beats Roman at mania, and in a number of ways, it could serve as the catalyst for rock vs roman.

They don't HAVE to, no. But just as in times past, they indeed move mountains for The Rock. I can see them bumping the Cawdy angle for the bigger cash grab because they've done it many times before. That's one of the reasons I started to have waning interest years ago. Lotsa work, lotsa build that would end up as a "schmoz" (thanks, Bret) or other general fuckery that just kinda made everything up to it, pointless.

Hell, that exists with Reigns now, with the amount of interference that goes on in nearly all of his matches. I haven't done the math, but nearly every single defense, the end is the same: interference from someone, will they / won't they, Reigns retains.

Rock v Reigns, even for a lapsed casual fan, has WAY more appeal than Cody v Reigns, which only appeals to those who already regularly watch and know the "long story", if they even remember.

Sting Fan 01-05-2024 02:48 PM

Riddle for NJPW seems like a good get. He might fit well there with his legit background.

XL 01-05-2024 03:50 PM

I imagine HHH has had the top Mania matches planned for a little while now but they won’t have planned to have Punk or Rock (if they actually do have him). So this could really be a case of “plans change”.

I’d be quite down for Cody “finishing the story” beating Roman at Mania, Roman going off the deep end with The Bloodline stuff and Rock coming in to challenge for “Head of the Table” at SummerSlam finally closing that storyline off.

I don’t think you have Rock take the title off Reigns. It’s too big of a “feather in the cap” to give to a guy just coming in for a short run. How do you get the belt off him? I’ve seen a cash in by Priest to move the belt off Rock but again, this title win should be the thing that cements someone in the “top spot” not a cheap win via MITB.

Reminds me of The Streak win going to Lesnar and the big win over Lesnar was…Taker. Had the chance to really cement someone with the win over Taker at Mania (and you could argue it took Lesnar to another level anyway) or the win over Lesnar subsequently.

They’ve got themselves into a nice place where there are a number of guys “bubbling under”. Cody, Seth, Punk, Knight, Jey Uso, rumours of Sami being positioned into a title contender, Drew who you can fold in.

Really interesting road to WrestleMania.

XL 01-05-2024 03:53 PM

Also, lol at the rumours that HHH’s announcement was going to be a working relationship with TNA and ended up being MITB announced for Toronto. Talk about getting carried away.

xrodmuc316 01-05-2024 03:56 PM

Yeah not sure why they are hyping up a PPV location as a big announcement. Of all the things they could copy from AEW, hyped up lame announcements is not what they should be rolling with.

Tom Guycott 01-08-2024 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5639847)
Start one anyways. If it doesn't happen you just get to say "plans change".

Wouldn't that be gimmick infringement for Meltzy?

Mr. Nerfect 01-08-2024 12:33 AM

That was a weird fuss to make over a location. I wonder if the arena paid for it, because it does seem to be a week in that building.

Tom Guycott 01-08-2024 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sting Fan (Post 5639937)
Riddle for NJPW seems like a good get. He might fit well there with his legit background.

... if he can keep his piss clean.

I don't even mean that as a knock on him. I'm being serious in the same way the whole nebulous "criminal activity" thing pops up for certain people trying to work up in Canada. Riddle makes even HALF the extracarricular noise over there than he did here in the States, and they'll prob'ly toss his ass into the ocean faster than any plane would land to cart him away civilly.

Mr. Nerfect 01-08-2024 12:36 AM

Cody wins the belt in Australia, I think. Roman doesn’t want to wrestle Rock, so Rock makes it personal. Rock gets to endorse the younger guy.

Rock vs. Roman is something you know they’ve wanted to do forever and a day. It will go back through their lives, their football days, Rock raising Roman’s arm, etc. I don’t agree that is them throwing away story. The video package for Rock and Roman is likely going to be a special one.

Tom Guycott 01-08-2024 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 5639947)
Also, lol at the rumours that HHH’s announcement was going to be a working relationship with TNA and ended up being MITB announced for Toronto. Talk about getting carried away.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5639949)
Yeah not sure why they are hyping up a PPV location as a big announcement. Of all the things they could copy from AEW, hyped up lame announcements is not what they should be rolling with.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5640158)
That was a weird fuss to make over a location. I wonder if the arena paid for it, because it does seem to be a week in that building.

Not exactly like this is new, though. WWE has been doing that for ages. Yes, it's usually centered around WrestleMania and/or Summer Slam, but they've been hyping cities forever even well after the city stopped being one of those "FIRST TIME EVAR" deals. They kinda wore the rope down from that well with how many times they ran :Vince voice: "Toronto Sky Dome!!"

Mr. Nerfect 01-08-2024 12:40 AM

I think Punk wore black trunks in MSG for a reason. I think he calls out Austin after failing to win the Rumble. It won’t be a heated feud or anything, but it could tell a great story. Punk doesn’t get his Mania main event. He needs to sharpen his claws. It could be the biggest mistake of his life, since he could realistically get his ass kicked, but to be the Best in the World he needs to defeat the best of all-time. The other icon of Attitude.

Austin shows up and aw hell son, it was all nice and quiet on the Broken Skull Ranch until he heard his name being hollered.

Mr. Nerfect 01-08-2024 12:42 AM

I was hoping the announcement would be a TV announcement with lip service paid to the Money in the Bank thing. And then MJF crashes the show!

Mr. Nerfect 01-08-2024 05:39 AM

I decided to check out how TNA’s Hard to Kill card was shaping up.

* I’m kind of done with Brian Myers. He’s in a tag team with Eddie Edwards. They’re going against Frankie Kazarian & Eric Young. I’m sure it will be solid work, but it’s hard to care about these teams. They all have more preferred partners lol. It would be funny if Davey Richards, Matt Cardona, Scorpio Sky, etc. all showed up.

* Crazzy Steve is still around. He’s having a hardcore match against Tommy Dreamer, who is still around. Not that interesting to me.

* Rich Swann vs. Steve Maclin. A match between two former TNA “World” Champs.

* There’s a giant clusterfuck for the tag belts. Eh, it looks like a slightly better than scene than AEW. Mike Bailey & Trent Seven in a team is interesting. They’ve got the Grizzled Young Vets too. Eh.

* Chris Sabin is defending the X-Division Title against El Hijo del Vikingo and Kushida. Two smaller guys you’ve at least heard of.

* There’s a Women’s Ultimate X match. A stronger scene than the AEW one, I’m sure.

* Dirty Dango vs. PCO. A match between two legends.

* Alex Hammerstone is apparently doing something with TNA. I’m glad to see he hasn’t fallen into the trap of signing with AEW. He’s going against Josh Alexander. Will Ospreay must have gotten pulled, which is a shame for them.

* Trinity vs. Jordynne Grace. I’m not invested, but TNA has always had the “better” women’s wrestling outside WWE.

* Alex Shelley vs. Moose should probably be solid. You’d think Moose would be taking the belt here, right?

I wonder if there will be any surprises? There are a bunch of WWE talent that could be free, maybe even a Kamille or Richard Holliday too.

Mr. Nerfect 01-08-2024 06:37 AM

No Joe Hendry on the card? I suspect he’ll end up somewhere. Maybe in a match with Bully Ray or something?

drave 01-08-2024 01:44 PM

Joe Hardy in the Impact Zone!

M-A-G 01-09-2024 08:21 AM

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drave 01-09-2024 09:59 AM

BAH GAWD!!!!!

HE's BITING HIM REF!!!! GET IN THERE AND STOP THAT!!!! THAT DASTARDLY SUMBITCH!

Tom Guycott 01-09-2024 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drave (Post 5640187)
Joe Hardy in the Impact Zone!

Say his name and he appears; I believe in Jeff Harvey...

Sepholio 01-09-2024 11:39 PM

TK going nanners again. This time he's trying to hinder Jinder.

Ben Rodrigues 01-10-2024 12:13 AM

USA Network appears to have started it with a legit question. I mean, what was the cagematch rating?

Ben Rodrigues 01-10-2024 12:47 AM

What if this series of tweets from Tony leads to Jinder becoming the next LA Knight!?

Mr. Nerfect 01-12-2024 02:32 PM

I don’t think it will get that far (no one really cares about AEW), but holy fuck is Tony Khan fucking stupid.

First of all, it’s not a double-standard that people prefer the better overall product. It betrays you don’t know how to book. Hook getting 28 wins against nobodies doesn’t mean shit. You haven’t brought him along any and it shows. Jinder just traded fisticuffs in an angle with The Rock.

And it’s more blame the fans shit. Like they’re somehow at fault for not liking oranges when they enjoy apples.

He doesn’t fucking get it. At all. And he brags about not getting it.

Bad News Gertner 01-13-2024 10:27 AM

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Tom Guycott 01-15-2024 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5640244)
First of all, it’s not a double-standard that people prefer the better overall product. It betrays you don’t know how to book. Hook getting 28 wins against nobodies doesn’t mean shit. You haven’t brought him along any and it shows. Jinder just traded fisticuffs in an angle with The Rock.


The following has paid for itself already:

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5630138)
You’d think that would be a no-brainer before putting him in this spot, but this is AEW.

Told you it was evergreen.

Big Vic 01-18-2024 02:59 PM

Miss Gertners GIFs :(

road doggy dogg 01-18-2024 04:11 PM

what's up with like 1,000 guests viewing this thread rn...

Big Vic 01-18-2024 04:17 PM

Maybe there's lewds somewhere in here.

Sepholio 01-18-2024 04:19 PM

RP BBC pics driving traffic

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Mr. Nerfect 01-20-2024 07:28 PM

For people who missed it, Nic Nemeth bypassed AEW and chose to go to TNA.

Mr. Nerfect 01-22-2024 04:04 AM

I saw a clip of Bryan Alvarez wearing a cap for his podcast. Is he also balding, or is he just doing it to help Dave cover up?

Big Vic 01-23-2024 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5640387)
For people who missed it, Nic Nemeth bypassed AEW and chose to go to TNA.

Every time I see this post I read it as "Nic Nemeth passed away"

Sting Fan 01-28-2024 05:44 AM

Fucking wild week for WWE. Rock on the TKO board, huge! WWE to Netflix, massive! The turd Vince took on a staff member, immense.

Brock being implicated feels like it changed the Mania card. Frankly this coming out may change the Mania card by keeping Rock off of it.

The Fraze 01-28-2024 05:52 AM

Slim Jim aren't the only ones passing around meat sticks.

Mr. Nerfect 01-28-2024 02:18 PM

I watched some TNA recently. YouTube clips, since I’m not sure if TNA is any better off than AEW in terms of Australian exposure. It looked…good. Nothing blow-away, but I could watch more.

They actually try to work matches over there. It wasn’t just choreographed flips. They try and honor the basics. I’m not sure if they still do cinematic matches over music videos and have murder and all that on their show. That would turn me off.

Josh Alexander and Will Ospreay had a cracking match. They even tried to incorporate a table organically. And they made a point of the referee using their discretion to keep the match going.

I dunno, I’m rooting for TNA. More so than lazy AEW anyway.

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Tom Guycott 01-29-2024 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5640387)
For people who missed it, Nic Nemeth bypassed AEW and chose to go to TNA.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 5640454)
Every time I see this post I read it as "Nic Nemeth passed away"

Dolph Ziggler passed away. Nic Nemeth rose from the ashes.

Now that he's in TNA, there's still time to change to white gear, bring a bicycle pump, and have music that only plays while he moves (old "Dig Duggler" joke that nobody here even remembers).

Tom Guycott 01-29-2024 04:36 AM

In a sentiment I've stated elsewhere:

It's pretty wild that Naomi's return was bolstered by acknoledgement that she was, in fact, a former TNA's women's champion... and then a few spots later, CURRENT TNA ladies* champ Jordynne Grace shows up.

Just a decade ago, AJ Styles had to go to NJPW to wash the proverbial "stink" of TNA off of him before heading to WWE and any iteration of TNA and/or Impact was "persona non grata". Now, we just have folks from the promotion just able to show up on a PPV without a backalley trade (that thing where there was a one-night swap for Christian for Ric Flair) or pretending they just fell off the planet the entire time they were working there (up to and including the time RVD showed up in both places the same week).

*I actually accidentally wrote " ladie's " and considered not correcting it. Maybe might do it on purpose in the future.

The Fraze 01-29-2024 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Guycott (Post 5640535)
In a sentiment I've stated elsewhere:

It's pretty wild that Naomi's return was bolstered by acknoledgement that she was, in fact, a former TNA's women's champion... and then a few spots later, CURRENT TNA ladie's champ Jordynne Grace shows up.

Just a decade ago, AJ Styles had to go to NJPW to wash the proverbial "stink" of TNA off of him before heading to WWE and any iteration of TNA and/or Impact was "persona non grata". Now, we just have folks from the promotion just able to show up on a PPV without a backalley trade (that thing where there was a one-night swap for Christian for Ric Flair) or pretending they just fell off the planet the entire time they were working there (up to and including the time RVD showed up in both places the same week).

I think the kids are saying that Triple H is "cooking." Perhaps that should have been his gimmick instead of The Rock.

Tom Guycott 01-29-2024 04:46 AM

That's in a parallel universe. The same universe where Owen Hart became The Game.

The Fraze 01-29-2024 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Guycott (Post 5640542)
That's in a parallel universe. The same universe where Owen Hart became The Game.

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Tom Guycott 01-29-2024 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5640530)
I watched some TNA recently. YouTube clips, since I’m not sure if TNA is any better off than AEW in terms of Australian exposure. It looked…good. Nothing blow-away, but I could watch more.

They actually try to work matches over there. It wasn’t just choreographed flips. They try and honor the basics. I’m not sure if they still do cinematic matches over music videos and have murder and all that on their show. That would turn me off.

Josh Alexander and Will Ospreay had a cracking match. They even tried to incorporate a table organically. And they made a point of the referee using their discretion to keep the match going.

I dunno, I’m rooting for TNA. More so than lazy AEW anyway.

I get the meme is "LOL TNA", but I've been tangentially looking that way through the years. They're trying. They're actually trying. It's been slow and steady and they've made a lot of headway since the whole "Broken Matt is keeping the corpse of the company alfoat" days. It took other people attempting (primarily NWA and AEW) for them to finally stop trying to out WWE the WWE. Their top stars - in spite of mostly technically being castoffs from elsewhere like MOOSE from RoH and Steve Maclin(Cutler) from NXT, and Josh Alexander growing from former tag partner of Ethan Page to quite possibly their biggest homegown talent since they days of pushing guys like Matt Morgan and Hernandez.

It has become a lot more tolerable while nobody was looking. There's still shit that is pretty "meh", but unfortunately that is everywhere anymore. Feels weird that rebranding back to TNA is, to them, a step forward... but aside from that, they seem to be doing more earnestly what AEW was supposed to be doing before TK decided to try to convince everyone that everything is great! :ding:

Mr. Nerfect 01-29-2024 06:34 AM

Yeah, nothing is really blowing me away, but it’s way better than AEW, which is so self-assured even though it is just white noise. And looking away for a long time has actually helped.

The rebranding is not something I thought I would be behind, but I guess there are young adults and wrestlers now who have known TNA their entire lives. It’s weird to think of it as having some sort of nostalgia value.

Lock Jaw 02-04-2024 10:36 AM

@Noid what do you think of The Rock now? Been interested to hear your thoughts on the matter and you haven't come to the new forums....

Mr. Nerfect 02-04-2024 12:31 PM

The Rock being back in any capacity is sort of surreal. You don’t get performers like him and we’re spoilt to have him back. I think it’s cute some fans still take wrestling serious enough that they’re invested enough to get this bent out of a shape of a perceived sleight against Cody not having the biggest match at Mania.

I’d have Cody cut a promo on Seth about their history and how Cody can see the moves if he chose Roman. Paul Heyman would call the same number Seth has always had and The Shield would band together at least for one night to make sure Cody doesn’t win the belt. So Cody has to give Seth his main event, and he kind of hates him for that.

As for Roman/Rock, I do hope the match over-delivers. I’d honestly be happy for Rock to win.

Lock Jaw 02-04-2024 12:47 PM

I have seen some non-rassling fans or casual rassling fans post on Facebook about how they are excited about The Rock, so I get it... but yeah, a lot of the more "serious" rassling fans are upset...

Personally I don't care about Cody being "slighted" because I still don't like the guy that much... but I do care about the whole Roman story and feel "so bad" that it was "so hot" last year and had a potential "perfect end" with Zayn beating Roman at WM.... but then Cody got the shot instead and didn't win, and then the entire Bloodline story and everyone involved was cooled down to the point where a potential Cody/Roman rematch was just "Ugh, just end it and have Cody win"

A Rock/Roman match does have the potential to get some heat back, but I honestly wouldn't be happy for a Rock win... would just totally derail any potential "star making moment" that beating Roman would have. Which, to be fair, has already been derailed a good deal by randomly making another World Title and cooling the whole story down.

Also, Cody/Seth really have to turn around their feud/match with some good promos. Rollins cut a good promo on RAW hyping up his phony title belt.... but then Roman quite easily (verbally) eviscerated Rollins and his title on SD... and Cody comes out and doesn't really disagree with him and says the title he wants is Roman's.... but now he will go away.

So hopefully on RAW Cody can actually talk up Rollins' title a little bit and at least TRY to make it seem like he actually does want it.

Lock Jaw 02-04-2024 12:49 PM

Very interested to hear how the "smarkish" WM crowd would respond to a Rock/Roman match....

Lock Jaw 02-04-2024 12:50 PM

Would be "cool" if out of all this we get heel Corporate Rock sticking around a bit

Mr. Nerfect 02-05-2024 05:14 AM

The video packages for Rock and Roman are going to be out of this world good. There’s a story there that people have been begging to get basically every year since this Roman stuff started. This is what the whole Bloodline thing was leading up to.

Cody was likely never going to get it. They’ll always find a reason to move past him. You don’t get to smash the throne and get away with it.

Mr. Nerfect 02-05-2024 05:18 AM

On Seth/Cody: I think they should make it about Seth and Cody’s history, going back to NXT when Dusty was there. Seth is obsessed with Cody and has something he needs to prove. If Cody chose Roman, Seth would have screwed him. “You’re goddamn right I would have.” It becomes about a match both guys feel they need to win — Cody to validate himself as the man who can be the business and establish a new belt for Netflix and the future. Seth because Cody just beats him constantly. Both men can use the “I need to beat you” line.

Big Vic 02-05-2024 09:29 AM

I don't really watch anymore and I think it's pretty stupid Cody gave up the shot for some reason.

Big Vic 02-05-2024 09:30 AM

Also Romans belt represents 2 belts right?

Why don't they have Roman defend the WWE title against Cody and the universal title against the Rock?

Big Vic 02-05-2024 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5640719)
I have seen some non-rassling fans or casual rassling fans post on Facebook about how they are excited about The Rock, so I get it... but yeah, a lot of the more "serious" rassling fans are upset...

Personally I don't care about Cody being "slighted" because I still don't like the guy that much... but I do care about the whole Roman story and feel "so bad" that it was "so hot" last year and had a potential "perfect end" with Zayn beating Roman at WM.

As someone who only tuned in to last years WM I was hoping after beating the Uso's Sami would win the Rumble this year and take down Roman.

I'm not a huge fan of Cody but this swerve doesn't make sense.

Lock Jaw 02-05-2024 09:54 AM

Yeah, I was hoping they would use the year to build up Sami as a "legit" contender.... instead they cooled him off to the point where he could enter number 30 in the Rumble and only last two minutes and no one would care.

Big Vic 02-05-2024 11:51 AM

Once CM punk was injured in the Rumble they should have called an audible to have him win it. Then he gives his speech on Monday.

Roman gloats on Smackdown and then the Rock comes out.

XL 02-05-2024 01:13 PM

This is genius creative leading to a Triple Threat at Mania where fall one is for the belt and fall two is for the moniker of Head of the Table.

They’ve put Cody over more by “cucking” him than by any other booking choice they’ve made. Even fans that were indifferent about Cody vs. Roman II are on the #WeWantCody bandwagon.

Let’s go back 10 years to Mania 30 where they setup for Batista vs. Orton and we demanded Bryan.

10 years further back and we had HHH vs HBK but we wanted <s>Benoit</s>.

And another 10 years with the Bret/Luger/Yoko deal.

It’s a Mania tradition at this point.

Mr. Nerfect 02-06-2024 06:01 AM

I don’t want a Triple Threat. At least when it comes to Rock/Roman/Cody.

The Fraze 02-06-2024 06:16 AM

Zero chance they make it a triple threat. The Rock and Roman in a match will absolutely only be one on one. We won't really know if they're going to correct their mistake until the press conference on Thursday.

The Rock needs to challenge Roman for the Head of the Table at WM 41 in Las Vegas next year and also, say that when it comes to the WWE Championship at WM 40, that is Cody's story to finish.

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Mr. Nerfect 02-07-2024 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by The Fraze (Post 5640774)
Zero chance they make it a triple threat. The Rock and Roman in a match will absolutely only be one on one. We won't really know if they're going to correct their mistake until the press conference on Thursday.

The Rock needs to challenge Roman for the Head of the Table at WM 41 in Las Vegas next year and also, say that when it comes to the WWE Championship at WM 40, that is Cody's story to finish.

Rock raising Cody’s hand in Philly would be quite poetic given the finish to the 2015 Royal Rumble.

The Fraze 02-07-2024 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5640802)
Rock raising Cody’s hand in Philly would be quite poetic given the finish to the 2015 Royal Rumble.

Would be perfect if The Rock's involvement is preventing Solo and Jimmy from interfering in the match, but nothing further so Cody's win is "clean." Thus kicking off the year long build between Roman and The Rock for Head of the Table at WM 41 in Las Vegas.

The Fraze 02-07-2024 06:25 AM

One positive from Smackdown is I think The Rock's new shirt is sick.

XL 02-08-2024 08:01 AM

Cody to attack and injure Rock at the press conference and sign the contract himself.

Rock, as the People’s Champ, hears what the people are saying and what they want and gives the title match back to Cody. We get night one Cody vs Roman for the belt, Rock vs Roman for “Head of the Table”. Roman loses both, world collapses, goes on hiatus for 6 months. Seth doesn’t need to be in the main event, was only there for Punk.

XL 02-08-2024 08:01 AM

Those are 2 different options, not one following on from the other.

Mr. Nerfect 02-08-2024 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Fraze (Post 5640806)
Would be perfect if The Rock's involvement is preventing Solo and Jimmy from interfering in the match, but nothing further so Cody's win is "clean." Thus kicking off the year long build between Roman and The Rock for Head of the Table at WM 41 in Las Vegas.

If I could determine when Rock wrestles — something like that is ideal to me. If not Mania 41, you can boost Night of Champions, Money in the Bank or SummerSlam with Rock/Roman.

Mr. Nerfect 02-08-2024 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by XL (Post 5640838)
Cody to attack and injure Rock at the press conference and sign the contract himself.

Rock, as the People’s Champ, hears what the people are saying and what they want and gives the title match back to Cody. We get night one Cody vs Roman for the belt, Rock vs Roman for “Head of the Table”. Roman loses both, world collapses, goes on hiatus for 6 months. Seth doesn’t need to be in the main event, was only there for Punk.

I think this is what they might do, minus the attack part. Rock listens to the people, Cody listens to the people. They’ve got a problem. They both want WrestleMania. Why not do both?

Cody challenges for the belt night 1. Rock raises his arm. Night 2 is Rock and Roman in the personal issue. That one breaks down and the finish sees Cody blasting Roman with the belt into a Rock Bottom.

WWE sends the message that both men are heroes and can pretend this was clever architecture to get both main events signed and delivered and not a messy wave they managed to somehow ride into shore.


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