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Since I think it's bullshit that only cold weather teams get to participate in the Winter Classic, my suggestion is that the NHL pick a "neutral" site somewhere in Canada or something where it's sure to be good conditions and have two warm weather teams play in the game.
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Montreal vs Toronto anyone?
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That's not true. They had an outdoor game in Las Vegas years ago(1991 I think). The could do one just about anywhere during Winter. |
For some reason ESPN here didn't show the winter classic even though they advertised it, and there's no replays of it either. :mad: :(
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Yeah, wasn't even on TV for me:(
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Although the outcome of the score isn't what I liked, that was an amazing experience. Just to hear the roar of the crowd was insane. A lot of fans for both the Pens and the Caps there. Caps just wanted it more tonight have to give credit when due. Ovi is still an arrogant cocky prick but I earned alot of respect for the rest of them tonight. Pens just weren't ready.
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It was on NBC :?::?::?: Your local market team was probably playing since they moved the game back
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<font color=goldenrod>I remember when the rumor last year was Rangers/Islanders :( then they realized it'd be dumb to only cater to one market, though the hope was that it would put John Taveres over as a star.
and of course, Citi Field offered to hold the event, but I just know they would have coaxed Yankee Stadium into hosting it instead due to name value</font> |
I got to watch the Laughs win a game:(
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Flames/Oilers will be next. Sometime later this month I think?...
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Ugh, woooooo the battle of Alberta....again!!!!
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Just seen there's a replay of the winter classic on at 3:30am, just aswell i'll be staying up late tonight then!(honestly espn, fucking put it on at an earlier time ffs)
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A game in Canada is good though. |
A game in Canada would be good but NHL cares a lot about ratings in the US.
Something like a Toronto-Montreal game would be huge in Canadian ratings but not as huge in the US unless NHL added US teams or had the game in the US. It sounds stupid but that is the main reason the NHL has Winter Classics since it is only about the ratings and boost in publicity in the US. |
I don't see why toronto/montreal wouldn't do well in the US, unless the US really are THAT self centered? Pretty sad if they're, which i wouldn't doubt.
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Oh, ummm....Woooooooo!!!!!
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It would still get decent ratings from the US but not the huge numbers a Classic located in the US or involving US teams can generate. It still sounds like a dumb reason but the Commish still wants to expand the fanbase and interest in hockey in the southern US. |
I'd love it if they'd just do away with the Winter Classic, it makes for god awful hockey games and really ugly camera angles.
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Sorry to break it to you but they're going to start doing multiple Winter Classics, eventually going overseas with them
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This should be considered a success, however, one could only wonder if the game would have went on when it was scheduled. I know for me, the TV Guide that comes on my tv did not show the game was re-scheduled. |
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I like seeing the game in angles you don't normally see inside an arena.
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Anyone think that the game will go back to the afternoon next year? Ratings, ratings, ratings.
Should next year have a warm weather team as the visitor? I could see them trying to cash in on a California team visiting New York. |
Next year they should play the game in Winnipeg
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Or Halifax
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Having a coyotes vs avs game would be cool if they wore jets and nordique jerseys.
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I would try like hell to get a ticket if the Avs hosted one. Not an Avs fan, but would love to see a Winter Classic in person.
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Mere days after trading Roloson, down goes Rickity D
And what was left of the Islanders season most likely. |
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Yeah, he was such a model of health and consistentcy. Thats why they traded Roloson.
Sidenote - All my dynasty fantasy teams I picked up Lawsen :) |
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You play fantasy hockey? Havent noticed at you at all in the TPWW League.
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Lol there's a shock, the habs are collapsing after a fast start. Not like this happens every season or anything.
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I do agree with Lara Emily somewhat. The hockey in the Winter Classic is pretty bad due to ice conditions. The NHL really needs to be careful with this.
Also, I'm shocked the greedy Leafs ownership has not gotten an outdoor game yet. You'd think they be all over a Ottawa/Toronto outdoor game. |
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The leafs took 4. |
Lol never said the Leafs were great. They are awful.
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On paper, they arent a terribly bad team. I cant place what the hell is wrong with them.
Also, I await the shipping of Kaberle at the trade deadline, for picks they will trade to boston for Marc Savard :p |
Do the Bruins still have another 1st round pick from the Leafs for the next draft?
I forgot if the Kessel deal was just the 2010 1st round pick or 2010 and 2011 1st round picks. |
Yes. Unreal deal for us.
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1st 2010
2nd 2010 1st 2011 for Phil "Our Lord and Savior" Kessel |
K, people shit on Kessel and although I'm not his biggest fan.....HE'S PLAYING ON A FUCKING LINE WITH JOEY CRABB AND TYLER BOZAK!!!!! They shell out all this cash and picks for him and then basically give him a toothpick and an elastic band and say "build a house". It's not possible. FA, they are horrible on paper. They have 1 good line: MacArthur-Grabovski-Kulemin and that's it. Kessel is basically on a line with nothing. Versteeg sucks (I remember saying numerous times I hated that trade), Bozak has been bad, Armstrong has been bad, Sjostrom, Mitchell, Brent and Boyce are all terrible. Orr does his job as does Brown but they are fourth liners. They sent down their only good faceoff man in Zigomanis and kept friggen Mitchell. Kaberle and Schenn are excellent, Komisarek is a disaster, Beacuchemin isn't much better, Phaneuf is always out of position, Gunnerson is meh and Lebda blows. Their goaltending is good but it's offset by their terrible defence and their forwards not backchecking. Their pk and pp is terrible. Joey Crabb is on the power play. Enough said. Their forwards are under-sized and the team doesn't hit. Ron Wilson should be fired as should Brian Burke. There has been no fucking progress whatsoever and the only reason I watch is to see Colton Orr fight. There FA, did I answer your question?
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4 goals in under 8 minutes by the Pens against Tampa.
And Malkin and Crosby only have 1 point each. |
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Lol you wanted a reason why the Leafs aren't good and there ya go. Kessel would make sense if they put a couple solid players around him. It's not so much the trade for Kessel that I hate, it's what they did after the trade.
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I will argue one counterpoint: Belfour and Joseph were excellent on Toronto, well Belfour was until his last year.
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The trade would of made SOME sense if they had a team for Kessel to play with. They had no chance of doing anything so why throw away the future? The trade was dumb. Would you rather have Seguin/2nd Rounder 2010/1st Rounder 2011/Bottom of standings or Kessel/Bottom of standings? With Seguin and their first rounder this year they would of have a nice solid base with cap space for the future. It was a no brainer really.
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It seems a lot of Toronto fans feel the need to rationalize that trade. It was a dumb move pure and simple, admit it. You don't see me trying to rationalize the fact we have Scott Gomez do you:p
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On paper, the Kessel trade was huge for Toronto and horrible for Boston since nobody was expecting the 1st Round pick to be lower than #10 or Top 15. Once Toronto did nothing to build around Kessel and struggled badly, Boston made out huge in the deal.
Bruins could theoretically do what the Penguins did in getting 2 mega picks without the need to be a horrible team record-wise like Pitt was for those 2 years. |
What have most teams who make a strong run into the playoffs done? Build through drafting
What does the owners of Maple Leafs want? Profits What does playoffs games create? Lots of profits What did Toronto trade away? Future profits |
Lol you know what's a funny stat that you wouldn't believe? Toronto his statistically the youngest team in the NHL. Even younger than Edmonton.
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The problem with all those high draft picks is that sooner or later you'll have to pay them. That's a problem I see happening in Edmonton especially the way they are building. MSP, Eberle and Hall will all be getting big raises in a couple years. They are going to finish near the bottom again which will mean another high paid player in a couple years. They have no young defencemen and no young goaltender( dubnyk and deslauiers suck). Add to that Whitney, Hensky, Gagner, Penner and Cogliano are all well paid, I'm not 100% sold. Building from the draft is good to a point, because in today's NHL the cap creates problems. You can't have a bunch of players making a lot of money anymore. Edmonton is on a slippery slope with what they are doing.
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Mexico wants to hold its own Winter Classic and wants the NHL to consider them for a future site.
January 9th has Mexico U-20 team vs Bulgaria U-20 team playing outdoors in Mexico City as a test and to show the NHL its bid. Problem is the weather expected that day will be in the low 70s but no rain like in Pitt-Washigton Classic. |
I hope the players wear sombreros in the bench.
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Mikeal Grabovski is tremendous. Thanks Montreal.
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How's Mikey K doing over in T-Dot?
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Dion Phaneuf = totally lost
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Komisarek is an abortion. Grabovski is amazing. That being said, putting him with Kessel would be a massive mistake. Grabovski is a smaller Olli Jokinen: shoot first, pass second centerman. Lol you know who would fit in with Kessel FA and I know you're going to laugh but Scott Gomez.
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Wilson needs to go to Phaneuf and say "go nuts". I think Phaneuf is overthinking his game. Just do what you do. He's trying to be too defensive and he's not that type of player.
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Lol Gomez never shoots and that's what Kessel needs. If you took salary out of the equation Twhich I know is stupid) they'd be a perfect fit.
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Kessel needs a Marc Savard again... unfortunately there is only one Marc Savard and he's in Boston
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So is Tyler Seguin
HiYYYYOHHHHHHHH!!! |
Lol Toronto hung 9 on Atlanta. Grabovski with 2 more.
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Kaberle with 4A.
Has 29A on the season now I believe. |
Lol 1 goal and 29 assists. Only the Leafs could manage to win 9-3, get outshot by 10 and have players with a -2.
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Have people been viewing this "Guardian Project" that NHL and Stan Lee are revealing on Facebook?
<object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/to2dPdfasRI?fs=1&hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/to2dPdfasRI?fs=1&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object> Not sure how I really feel about this. |
A colossal waste of money.
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I'd probably like it a bit more if the Penguin guy didn't look like a total rip-off of Cyclops. Friggin hate the X-Men.
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wooooooooooooooo
lets go boston! |
:nono: Bruins are horrible holding leads late in a game.
This season and last season probably set some sort of records for most leads blown. |
Holy shit at Boston blowing Pitts out with 3.5 mins left.
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lol @ Fleury
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I'm shocked at when the Bruins usually have a 1-2 goal lead late in the 3rd, they usually find a way to blow it but the two times they played at Pitt, they managed to play great in the 3rd and tie or take a lead. |
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I wouldn't have even called this news, but it must be a slow day in Toronto other than Funberntiensentenieund getting traded there. |
Is anyone here in agreement that Brian Burke is by far the most over-rated General Manager in the National Hockey League? I hate this guy with a passion that I can't even put into words. Honestly, the only good thing he has ever done was drafted the Sedins for Vancouver. Sure, you can say he won the Stanley Cup with The Ducks, but the ground work was already laid. After he left there, the Ducks were left with nothing but over paid role players, and haven't had success after Burke was gone.
Now that he is in Toronto, he made by far one of the worst trades in the history of this league by sending 2 first round picks to Boston for Phil Kessel. He traded away the future for a chance to "win now." Well we all know how that is working out for him. It appears that Boston is going to get a top 5 pick in the coming draft again. What are your thoughts on Brian Burke? |
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His idea was right in trading for Kessel. But he also thought he'd be able to secure a good playmaker for him, which completely backfired. I just don't like when GM/coaches bash their own players to the media. I wouldn't say I hate the guy because that is a strong word, I just think his plan fell on its face and he's scrambling. |
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They have a good playmaker, Mike Komisarek, oh wait :shifty: |
Burke is far from the most over-rated GM in the league. You're just spitting out the recycled crap that Al Stratchen spews out.
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Well there used to be Darryl Sutter, but he's gone now.
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Brian Burke is as overrated a GM as Messier is a leader.
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What? Messier was awesome.
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Care to explain how he was a great leader?
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He did kind of help the Rangers break their title curse in 1994 and had key moments leading up to the title.
What hurt the Rangers more was the latter years of them going after too many star or high priced players instead of players who would fit better on the team. Also was part of the Oilers dynasty during the years with Gretzky and the few without him. |
One title makes him a great leader?
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One title? Captained two different teams to a cup. Plus he has 4 other rings, I'd say thats a pretty good indication. Not to mention he's second all time in points, and he has an NHL leadership award named after him. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but to say he's overrated.... it just isn't true... |
Eric Staal and Lidstrom All Star Captains.
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Yeah, Crosby broke his brain so he's out. Shitty timing for him.
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Bruins.
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what a coincidence.... just was on TSN.ca and this came up lol...
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