Robben to Chelsea 13 million 5 year deal. FFS Chelsea stop buying everyone its annoying espcially stop buying midfielders

Well, if Champ Man has taught me anything, it is that Argen Robben is fu</>cking amazing.

And I hope we offload about 5 midfielders in the summer.

*crosses fingers*

Does Robben play wide? I can't remember.

If he does I imagine pretty soon it'll be hello subs bench for Gronkjaer

We'll have Cole and Gronkjaer please

F</>uck off, Cole is ours :mad:

I want Cole to stay.

I meant Veron, Geremi, Petit, Gronjkaer, and I dunno who else, lets call it four.

Nobody cares what you think Dazz :foc:

Unless you're secretly Claudio Ranieri :shifty:

Your just saying nobody cares because I think that Wolves are going to finish bottom of the league.

No I'm saying that cause nobody really cares

(:foc: )

:'(

If Germany win Euro 2004, I bet you will say to yourself 'I wish I listened to Dazz and put a £10 bet on at 18/1'

No I'll probably insult the Germans and wish I'd put £100 on :$

Robben? :|

what the fu</>ck, he was supposed to come to us, he even said he'd rather play in our reserves than go to chelsea.

Yeah I read his dad saying that - who is like his agent or something.

Robben is apparently amazing though I'm just going off the press and not actually seeing him in action.

Just shows what a bit of money can do

Might have something to do with PSV getting pissed at United/Ferguson for inviting him to Old Trafford without them even knowing about it.

I read that Chelsea are doing a deal to make PSV their feeder club, could be a part of the deal, maybe Abramovich is gonna finance PSV as well?

Yeah he funded the transfer of Santos.

And I doubt Robben said that, papers misquote things all the time. I think that someone like you, The Mask, would know this, what with you being a United fan and all.

Didn't he also fund the transfer of the brazillian ALEX to them???

it was on the BBC site, a quote from his dad I believe, hold on.

Robben is amazing, I've downloaded some videos of him. I'm gutted at losing him. first ronaldinho and now him :|

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ea/3421931.stm

Seriously, Fergie's gonna have to pull some special players out of his arse this summer or it looks like Harry Kewell might have been right :|

Man U's handling of transfers has been quite "forceful" shall we say in the past. Now with the deals for Kewell, Ronaldiniho and Robben going against them maybe teams aren't standing for it anymore.

Or something :meh:

*transfer of Alex from the Brazillian club Santos to PSV.

After reading the article, all I have to say is:

It was what Robben's dad said, and not him.
He said that Robben would rather play in PSV's reserves, not United's.
Some of that could be misquoted.
We're fu</>cking loaded
La la la la la la.

If that is true it's a hell of a deal. There aren't too many clubs I can think of outside Ajax, Auxerre, Juventus and Real who have a better track record with developing young players.

Robben claims that he snubbed Manchester United for Chelsea.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ea/3527237.stm

Still, I'm f</>ucking gutted :(

The PSV president has said Man U offered a certain amount months ago, then went back and offered half :| Chelsea offered more, and also had Peter Kenyon to do the dealing (who he's friends with) so it went through.

Sorry but if I was a United fan (and especially a United shareholder) I'd be asking why the hell Man United, the richest club in the world (well, actually I guess that's debateable with Abramovich now, but still) would do something like that? Unless they were trying to bully PSV into taking less money or something...

He also said there's no agreement in place for them to become a feeder club for Chelsea, but the Robben deal does carry an agreement that Alex will move to Chelsea in 2 years time.

Not a bad bit of business at all really :o

Ken Bates has resigned. which pisses me off because he is the man. Kenyon is a United fan and Abramovich and his money can go fu</>ck itself, he gets three clowns to go on the Chelsea board, none of who know a thing about football.
:'( :'( :'(


:wavesad:

It's what United always do, they try and unsettle players so that the club have to sell the player to them, and they thought that by bidding high, and being able to speak to Robben, that they would then be able to bid low, once Robben has his heart set on them, hoping that Robben would get annoyed if PSV didn't sell him, and then get pissed off at PSV, which would force them to sell him.

By george I've cracked it.

It happened to be down to Peter Kanyon's involvement at Man United. As much as I don't like him now, to be fair, he did change the ways at Old Trafford in terms of spending money. He agreed a deal in region of 15 million for Robben to sign for us in the summer of 2004 and when he left, the deal went the sh</>it. The board, being the cheap fu</>ckers they are, then tried to do a cheaper deal and it went pair shape.

It's also similar to why we didn't sign Ronaldinho. Kenyon had a deal agreed at £24 million and then the board told him to go back to PSG and say he could only spend £21 million. He refused so the deal died and he went to Barcelona.

I wish we had Robben though.

I would rather you had Robben.

And that we didn't get anyone in the summer, and that there was no Roman Abramovich, or Peter Kenyon. And that Batesy was still in charge.

If we turn our attention to Rafael Van Der Vaart then I'll be happy now.

What I really don't get is that United panicked when they knew Chelsea were hovering and seemingly paid over the odds for Ronaldo (eventually he'll probably prove worth it but at the time and even now £11m is a little steep)...what's the difference in this case?

You're talking £20m at the least.

You'd be dead if Bates was still in charge. Remember you were a week from administration. I can appreciate the fact you like Bates because he did save Chelsea but if it wasn't for Abramovich, he would have took them under too.

You want the best players then you have to pay for them.

Got to say I'm shocked by Batesy leaving, I knew things were going against him at Chelsea, but for him to leave there must be some pretty shi</>tty backroom politics going on.

Sadly, if (or maybe even when) this whole Abramovich thing blows over, he would have been able to pick up the reins again, but maybe not now :-\

Which the United board don't want to do at the moment

I think United are gonna have the problem where every player they are after, another team will want, and these teams are willing to pay big money for them. If United wanna get back on a par with Arsenal they are gonna have to buy 2 or 3 decent defenders, a replacement for Beckham, another top quality midfielder, and a world class forward, Saha's good, but they need a Trezeguet or a Shevchenko, particularly if they wanna win the Champions League again

^^ Yep

You *do* have to pay for them, United aren't doing that right now. Their standing in the game is slipping somewhat or at least isn't as good/strong as they seem to think it is, they have to realise they can't get a player just because they're interested in them.

Last I heard Ken Bates was supposedly looking into buying into Sheffield Wednesday...I dunno how much I'd believe it, I guess he might want to get back into a position of power somewhere but then again he's a businessman, and this deal has made him an absolute fortune. I wouldn't blame him if he retired.

I think they need a right midfielder and a defender too. Kleberson has to go in the summer and I didn't see the point in Djemba-Djemba seeing how he rarely even gets on the bench.

I'm not shocked at all. In ICT, we're doing this project, I won't bore you with the details, but we started it two months ago. Mines on Chelsea, and I put Bates in the 'old boys' section, not the 'current' one, because it was clear he wasn't going to put up with all the bullshit.

I called it from the start, in the thread I made when Batesy sold the club. Abramovich said Batesy was still in charge, but as soon as it stopped suiting him, he sorted that out, it was inevitable that he'd force Batesy out. I said that all along.

And we could have got another buyer, or sold of dickheads like Hasselbaink. There were other solutions, and I would rather inistrators sorted us out, then Abramovich did. He is a dodgy cunt, he has three peope on the board who know fu</>ck all about sport. He can suck my dick whilst I'm pissing, the stupid prick is going to ruin Chelsea when he pisses off within two years.

And then we'll be in more shit then before he first came to the club.

Well assuming Ferdinand comes back and Silvestre is healthy, I'd imagine it'd look something like this

Howard
G Neville
Ferdinand
Silvestre
?? (Left Back...can't honestly think of one off top of my head to buy but c'mon - Quinton Fortune???)
??(Right Midfield...Ronaldo?)
Keane/Butt
Scholes
Giggs
Saha
van Nistelrooy

That, in essence, is not a bad team at all.

Phil Neville left back. (:lol: )

O'Shea at left back actually.

I guess.

I dunno, from what I've seen from O'Shea recently (granted not a huge amount but still) he's either horribly out of form or one of those defenders who's better going forward than actually defending.

He had a stinker the other week but that's about the only bad performance I've seen him put out so I have to give the lad the benefit of the doubt. Wes Brown concerns me more right now but I know he needs match practise.

It's a decent enough first team, but not terribly creative.

We have no strength in depth anymore which is my main concern.

People need to stop bítching about United. You've more points now than at this stage last year. Its simple with the way Arsenal are playing they could throw Real into the premiership and they'd still storm it. They have the leauge and they've had it for about a month

Yeah but at this stage last year arsenal went to shit. We can't afford to hope arsenal have a bad run every year from now on.

This is what the PSV president had to say about the Robben deal, lifted from football365.com

``I was very disappointed with Manchester United over the deal, whereas Chelsea were very different,'' van Raaij told The Sun.

``With their chief executive Peter Kenyon, a deal really is a deal. I have always been able to do good business with him.

``That was the case with Jaap Stam and Ruud van Nistelrooy's transfers [to United when Kenyon was chief executive there] and also recently with Robben when Manchester United wanted to sign him.

``Kenyon is trustworthy and a man of honour. He does not go back on his word but that is something United have now done.

``They obviously believe their name is enough to attract players and make them sign. After learning of our financial problems, they halved the offer. They did not keep to their original offer - they let us down.

``But Kenyon was honest throughout and I was very impressed.''

If that is true it's a pretty shady business method they've got going there...I guess I can see *why* they would but wouldn't it be obvious they'd just piss PSV off by doing that?

Yeh, but Kenyon is a dodgy cunt who did ALOT of dodgy transfers at United.

I think the reason people are talking about United is because clearly they are not the team they were.

Today Man U were officially named the Richest club in the world, way ahead of the next richest (Juventus) and yet they are going backwards on the pitch. They are not getting the results like they do a couple of seasons ago. They are struggling at times, and they are getting poor results against sides they should be beating comfortably. Also, when did United ever have to rely heavily on one man in the last few years before Van Nistelrooy arrived? Then they played as a team, and everyone played for each other. If United didn't have Van Nistelrooy, who as much as I hated to admit it is one of the top strikers in terms of his positioning and eye for goal (in the box), they would be in trouble.

Yeah but like I said no matter how good United were Arsenal would have won the leauge this year there just too good this year

wtf Leeds were 16th in that club rich list.:|

It's based on income though not debt

I still find it odd,they must've raised £60 million or thereabouts through selling players so i just don't understand how they're so close to crumbling.The Champs League/Uefa Cup bring alot of revenue but surely not enough to force debt if the club is without it.

There must be some sort of dodgy background goings-on i guess.:\

Just 4 Dazz

From an interview with Jaap Stam:

Are there lessons to be learned after what happened at Lazio? Even the president is in jail now...

"It is so simple to pour millions and millions into a club. As long as you have enough money, every player in Europe can be brought in, but look at us now. The lessons we have learnt are harsh and the reality of our situation is driven home every day."

Is there a danger that Chelsea could go the way of Lazio?

"I look at Chelsea and I know what they are doing. They keep buying all the big names. There will be some success. They will win something. Exactly the same thing happened at Lazio. But look where this club is now. Here, in Roma, they operated no different from the Chelsea owners. But right now we are in a major financial crisis.

"The biggest problem for a club like Chelsea is that, because of all the money spent on the transfer market, the expectations are incredibly big. And when the time comes when there is not enough money to pay everyone, people will still have huge expectations.

"Even at Lazio, with most of our big names gone again, nobody says: 'Listen, we have to cut back, we are facing a few tough seasons ahead'. The whole world is still expecting miracles."

Hoddle's turned down the Southampton job, looks like Paul Sturrock's gonna get it

Thats what I've been saying from day one, Harvey said about how without Abramovich we would be in administration, but after he has pissed off, we will be in more trouble then we're already in.

We'll have to sell everyone and it will fu</>ck everything up, the only good that comes out of that is that all the fake fan will hopefully piss off and we will use our youth team how we should be now, and getting through quality players who care about the club.

Oh yeah,i don't think it's been posted about Sepp Blatter wanting the premiership down to 16 teams,which i think is the shittest idea ever.

http://www.fansfc.com/frontpage/fron...?newsid=127114

Smith appointed at Old Trafford
17:13 March, 3, 2004
Walter Smith has been named as Sir Alex Ferguson’s number two at Manchester United.


The former Glasgow Rangers and Everton manager has been out of the game since his sacking at Goodison Park, and his appointment at the champions comes as something of a surprise.

Sir Alex has been without a right-hand man since Carlos Queiroz quit to manage Real Madrid in the summer, and the Reds boss is delighted to offer Smith a the chance to succeed the Portuguese man.

“I am delighted that Walter has accepted the chance to join United,” said Ferguson. "There are few people in the game with his experience, knowledge and technical ability. His talent and background will be major assets at such a critical time of the season."

Smith has been handed the role until the end of the season, and follows previous number two’s at Old Trafford under the Ferguson regime such as Brian Kidd and Steve McClaren.

“The chance to come to Manchester United is something I couldn't turn down,” said Smith. “There are few bigger challenges in football than helping a successful side sustain their achievements. I have huge admiration for what Sir Alex has achieved at United and I'm excited to be part of it."

Also,Dennis Wise has won his case for unfair dismissal against Leicester.:|

I would like to see the outcome if we weren't in the prem,cause that would have crippled the club.

That's great for United. :y:

I did say it would all end in tears ages ago though.

And I never doubted that, I have never liked this whole Abramovich thing. It was destined for disaster from day one.

Duff and Cole are somewhat miffed at Chelsea signing robben :$ :D

:rantmad:

I think that everyone is.

It's ok Joey, you'll be welcome at the Molineux :$

I'd think they'd use Robben in the support striker role or something.I thinkl that,if fit,Chelsea will want him and Duff in almost all the time (like Lampard and Makelele right now).

Paul Sturrock has been confirmed as the new Southampton boss.

They spent over £100 million on players and they are just miffed now? Are their heads stuck up their arses or something because the rest of the sport knows what's going on.

I think it's more about them being surprised due to they,themselves not being at the club very long.

I think Cole will definetly leave in teh summer now though.

Oh yeah, Joe Mole is definately gone. He was on his way out the minute he refused to go to Moscow.

Jody morris released by leeds???

Yeah he was shít anyway

But i picked him in my sun dream team and I can't be bothered to transfer him out

Christophe Dugarry has left Birmingham City by mutual consent after a season blighted by a recurring knee injury.



Dugarry signed a permanent deal at St Andrews last summer but his family struggled to settle in England.

"Frankly I was living on my own in the past six months because my family did not like living in England," Dugarry told L'Equipe newspaper.

"Since the club have nothing to fear nor to hope for anymore we agreed to part company on good terms." The 31-year-old World Cup winner initially joined Birmingham on loan from Bordeaux in January 2003 and was instrumental in Birmingham preserving their Premiership status
But he has struggled with a knee injury throughout the current campaign and scored just one goal in 12 Premiership starts.


His last start came against Aston Villa, but Dugarry limped out of the match with a recurrence of the injury and returned to France to recuperate.

Birmingham manager Steve Bruce admitted that leaving St Andrews was the best option for the French striker, who still had 16 months left to run on his contract.

"Christophe's recent problems have been well documented with his family finding it hard to settle in the area and his niggling knee injury," Bruce told the club's official website.

"In the end we decided that a parting of the ways would be best for both parties.

"I would like to wish him all the very best for the future."

Dugarry, who has played for Bordeaux, Barcelona, Milan and Marseille, is hopeful of finding a new club.

"I am still very fit but I don't know where I will be playing next season," he added. "All I know is that I will ask my family first before making my decision."

Yeah i saw that about Dugarry earlier,good luck to him for the future but he didn't seem right this season.At least he can't prove me wrong about that this saturday now.

God damn Leicster beating Blues.

:mad:

Wooooooooooooooo

:love:

Also 2 clean sheets in a row,Walker is back to his best.:cool:

:y: to Ambrosio too,he had a great game or at least first half for Chelsea.I would think he should be second choice now.

Yeah Ambrosio as quality, kept us in it in the first half, had a good second half, but we played well so he had less to do. wooo.

Sunderland won 2-0 :cool:

This is Premiership Talk, not ex Premierhsip teams Talk. :mad:

*Walks in*

Shit, wrong thread.

*Leaves*

:shifty:

Damn Leicester :mad:

I have a tenner on leeds avoiding relegation :mad:

:drool: @ Henry's free kick against Blackburn.

Premiership is over. Arsenal can't lose it now. So... what about next season?

Ugh

Deary me Wolves.

Manchester derby is looking pretty good,2-1 to City at half time,though undeservedly.

Come On United.:mad:

GET IN THERE CITY. :D 3-1 at the moment.

Silvestre :love:

I just saw that. Come on City.

I agree with you, unless some of the main sides get there act together, Arsenal will be champions next seasont too.

What a goal from Wright Phillips :eek: seriously he deserved it more than anyone.

CITYYYYYYYYY :love:

4-1

:foc::foc::foc:

You'll get yours :mad:






:'(