Yeah, I just kinda skimmed the thread.

It's not really meant to be taken that seriously. Cool it, guy.

CSL has also been unfairly lumped into this. The poor fuck.

I just cut myself because of you. BLOOD CAN'T BE TAKEN BACK, FIGNUTS.

Can't tell if Narc is being serious or not atm. Total PullMyFinger vibe right now.

You know what, whatever. CSL and NARC may not have been a part of the name calling but they were definitely thinking it.

And by rules of the catholic church, if you thought it, you fucking did it.

Nailed you, you fucking sinners.

I'll buy it when I see the obituary.

Right now it's likely just a cry for help.

Our King of the Forum is a cutter. Jesus. Probably listens to The Cure.

Fixed. RIP Vicki Venom

I mean Narc.

Are you drunk?

... Yes...

Jesus Christ, Afterlife. lol

I wished you'd of posted this on page 1.

The promo style between Cody and Randy were similar with the videos posted a few pages back. Orton is still boring to me though.

The line about AL not liking things that are popular because he confuses being contrary for having good taste got a laugh out of me.

What the hell is going on in this thread. I come home and it is suddenly 7 pages long.

The next 7 pages are going to be people remarking one how many pages there are.

Man, there are a lot of pages in this thread.

CSL is a fantastic poster and is pretty much right about wrestling all the time. If he says Randy Orton is good, I'd take it more seriously than fan, who sometimes has good thoughts, but he can't seem to concede some simple things:

1) Alex Riley is over. Whenever he shows up on Superstars he gets a surprisingly good pop every time. If you want to use Randy Orton's overness as "evidence" of some mysterious level of talent, then you have to put Alex Riley into a stratosphere of ability above, say, Antonio Cesaro right? I mean, it is you who implied that things that are similar must be the same right?

2) That it's not just how someone talks, it's why they are talking like that. Yelling for no reason is not needed in a promo. Whispering for no reason is not needed in a promo. Talking...slowly...is...not...always...needed. There are times and places. You don't need to like a guy talking slowly in one context and then apply that to every single other context, as much as you'd like Cody Rhodes to make Randy Orton a better promo by default.

3) Cruiserweights get buried in the WWE. See the entire history of the WWE Cruiserweight Division when it was around for evidence. Smaller guys are better off just being smaller guys.

It's not so much the like of Randy Orton that bothers me. I do get it, because the guy has had some good matches, he is over, he looks the part and oozes credibility even when he hasn't won a World Title in over a year. Presence. Orton has that in spades. Except when I forget he exists (which I have legitimately done -- no kidding). It's just the insults being thrown at Cody Rhodes, who has surely channelled Orton with some of his ring work and promo techniques, but hasn't exactly duplicated him. It is possible to enjoy one and not the other. Much like how I enjoy Antonio Cesaro more than I enjoy Wade Barrett, even though they are both big European heels. I'm not even saying that Cesaro is better than Barrett (who is brilliant on the mic), but it's just a personal preference.

"CONCEDE THESE POINTS!"

No, Noid. I find your points to be silly. You finding them not to be silly doesn't mean "Well then you must concede!" Alex Riley is pure shit and if people still pop for him on Superstars, kudos. He was over on the Raw brand for a bit. There's a reason he isn't still on the main shows anymore. He's atrocious. Cody and Orton both have their reasons for their promo style and I can't think of a single cruiserweight who has ever been hurt because a cruiserweight division exists.

I mean... I've shown you enough examples of Alex Riley being a fuck up and being awful when asked to speak and you've been unwilling to accept them. You do not concede points. This "But you just don't concede and say I'm right" gripe is not a one way train. For that or any issue.

Alex Riley is not awful. He's not great, but when he is on he is on.

Cruiserweights were treated like a joke until the WWE dropped the division. It used to break my heart.

Yes he is.

You see where we stand now. This is where I post videos of him attacking his teammates like a retard, botching moves and saying cringeworthy stuff and being awkward and you reject them all and tell me he's great. And then we end up on page 14 still arguing the same shit.

... Tyson Kidd was my example. Do you really think he'd be treated worse simply because he's fighting for a title against someone like Justin Gabriel?

By the way, we'll be pulling in people here and there to do the podcast as guest hosts. If you'd like in, private message me your skype info.

Not you, #1-wwf-fan. ;)

Actually, that might be fun.

I agree with most of the other stuff that was discussed. I'm afraid you would not get the heated debates you assume you would with me.

Special Randy Orton Edition Featuring Hashtag 1-wwf-fan

Loopydate wants in for Episode 3. He's in. Look forward to that. Should be good. Anyone else that would like to pop in on a future episode let us know. Do understand that we reserve the right to decline but I'm thinking we won't have to do that unless its a poster that is a known sock or troll. And even then, it might be fun to toy around with a situation like that.

I kinda want Noid to be part of these podcasts but at the same time I don't want them to be 17 hours long :p

TPWW Tables, Ladders, & Podcast (June 6, 2013)