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Evil Vito 12-15-2016 09:27 AM

lol it's funny because he's fat

road doggy dogg 12-15-2016 09:37 AM

Jumbo Ryan

SlickyTrickyDamon 12-15-2016 12:26 PM

Super Size

SlickyTrickyDamon 12-15-2016 04:36 PM

Michael Floyd is claimed by the Pats.

Heisenberg 12-16-2016 02:52 PM

Hope he gets cut right before the Super Bowl

Emperor Smeat 12-18-2016 08:45 AM

Bills expected to fire Rex Ryan after today's game against the Browns according to ESPN. GM rumored to be keeping his job at least for one more year.


NFL rumored to be fining the Giants for using walkies-talkies during last week's game against the Cowboys. Already some teams are complaining its not going to be enough and want at least a draft pick included in the punishment.
Quote:

Originally Posted by ESPN
Coaches are not allowed to hold any two-way radios during a game, but Giants head coach Ben McAdoo was seen on the sidelines holding the walkie-talkie when it was apparent the team was having trouble getting the plays into Eli Manning.
Giants coach Ben McAdoo said he has been on an NFL sideline before when there were communication problems, but that was before the new system for communications was put into place this season.

One NFL source said that even though the Giants weren't communicating with Manning within 15 seconds of the play clock ending, they had the "opportunity" to do it, in addition for it being illegal to have the walkie-talkies. The same source said this was worse than what the Cleveland Browns did, when they ultimately lost a draft pick for in-game communications during the 2014 season between former general manager Ray Farmer and former offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan.


road doggy dogg 12-18-2016 10:34 AM

they should punish them by making them forfeit today IMO would be totally cool

#1-norm-fan 12-18-2016 11:05 AM

Still don't get how it makes any sense to fire a coach at this point in the season while his team is still alive in the playoff hunt.

They need to win their last three (Cle, Mia, @ NYJ... Very possible)
They need Baltimore to lose 2 of thier last 3 (Phi, @ Pit, @ Cin... Very possible they lose those two road division games although Droford will be here soon to tell you they're locks.)
They need Miami to lose in week 17 to New England (Very possible)
They need Houston OR Tennessee to lose 2 out of their last 3. (They play each other in week 17 so that's also very possible.)
They need Denver to lose to New England today and to Oakland in week 17 (Possible)

Is it LIKELY that all of those outcomes work out in their favor? Probably not. But there's at least a chance. If Buffalo wins and Denver loses along with Houston or Tennessee then it makes no sense to fire Rex Ryan. What's the upside? Not like you're gonna pull Bill Parcells out of retirement or something for the final two games of the season anyway.

#1-norm-fan 12-18-2016 11:08 AM

Would be cool to see Bill Parcells just agree to coach the final two games of the season for some non-playoff team just for fun though.

road doggy dogg 12-18-2016 11:14 AM

Yeah at least with Fisher the Rams gave him a "mercy firing" so he wouldn't be the losingest coach of all time...

SlickyTrickyDamon 12-18-2016 01:22 PM

Don't know what the Bills expected with Rex. He had crap seasons for awhile before getting shitcanned.

SlickyTrickyDamon 12-18-2016 04:58 PM

The Least Incarnate Brock Osweiler has been benched!

Emperor Smeat 12-18-2016 06:09 PM

Jags fired Gus Bradley as their coach.

SlickyTrickyDamon 12-18-2016 06:52 PM

What were they expecting with the team they have? Seems like the GM should be gone too.

Ruien 12-18-2016 11:59 PM

Their offense has a ton of talent STD. Defense is so so. But man does the talent on their offense not show in games.

ClockShot 12-20-2016 07:55 PM

Giants fined $150k, Ben McAdoo $50k for using Walkie Talkies on the sideline during the game.

Also, their 2017 4th round draft pick gets knocked down 12 spots.


A bit harsh for some technical difficulties.

Emperor Smeat 12-23-2016 10:49 PM

Vikings ended up having a small scare occur with their flight to Green Bay.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ESPN
The Vikings' plane skidded off the runway on a snowy night at Appleton International Airport and slid into the grass while taxiing after landing.

Everyone on the plane was fine. But players, coaches and team officials were stuck for several hours before fire officials at the scene used a truck's extension ladder to help the team off the aircraft.

A Vikings source told ESPN's Josina Anderson that the plane landed relatively fine but skidded while taxiing.


SlickyTrickyDamon 12-23-2016 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClockShot (Post 4902595)
Giants fined $150k, Ben McAdoo $50k for using Walkie Talkies on the sideline during the game.

Also, their 2017 4th round draft pick gets knocked down 12 spots.


A bit harsh for some technical difficulties.

I think the punishment was more for them trying to hide it. Also, it was at their stadium. If the equipment doesn't work it's your own teams fault.

Emperor Smeat 12-24-2016 01:37 PM

Jaguars currently interested in Tom Coughlin as their next potential coach while the Rams also have him on their list for interviews. Bills also among the teams interested and rumored to be the front runner once they fire Rex Ryan.

SlickyTrickyDamon 12-24-2016 11:14 PM

Pats once again have to face the Dolphins to clinch Home Field. Let's fucking take it seriously this time!

RP 12-25-2016 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4904358)
Jaguars currently interested in Tom Coughlin as their next potential coach while the Rams also have him on their list for interviews. Bills also among the teams interested and rumored to be the front runner once they fire Rex Ryan.

I thought Tom Coughlin was dead.

Droford 12-25-2016 05:41 PM

The Jags going back to him would be dumb..he's not a long term solution

SlickyTrickyDamon 12-25-2016 07:38 PM

The Reach. Ravens out. Steelers in.

Mercenary 12-25-2016 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4904694)
The Reach. Ravens out. Steelers in.

Did we do a wellness check on Droford yet?

SlickyTrickyDamon 12-27-2016 03:55 PM

The Ryan Boys are out. Bob and Rex have been fiiiiiiiiiiiiiired.

Droford 12-27-2016 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mercenary (Post 4904707)
Did we do a wellness check on Droford yet?

Its almost Baseball season.

And by baseball season I mean 5 minutes after the game on Sunday.

#1-norm-fan 12-27-2016 09:32 PM

Never too early to massively overrate next years' Ravens though! Don't leave yet!

Droford 12-27-2016 09:43 PM

HOME: Cincinnati, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Houston, Indianapolis, Chicago, Detroit, Miami
AWAY: Cincinnati, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Jacksonville (London), Tennessee, Green Bay, Minnesota, Kansas city

There's no reason they can't go 7-1 at home and 5-3 on the road for 12-4

#1-norm-fan 12-27-2016 09:47 PM

lol That's the spirit. Put a few thousand on them ASAP.

Droford 12-27-2016 09:50 PM

That is a ridiculously easy slate of games.

#1-norm-fan 12-28-2016 01:49 AM

Do you ever think of the amount of times you've said that about the Ravens over the past couple years and been wrong and thought "Maybe this team isn't as good as I think they are"? Honestly curious how you can watch the Ravens lose "easy games" so much and not start to figure it out.

screech 12-28-2016 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 4905961)
HOME: Cincinnati, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Houston, Indianapolis, Chicago, Detroit, Miami
AWAY: Cincinnati, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Jacksonville (London), Tennessee, Green Bay, Minnesota, Kansas city

There's no reason they can't go 7-1 at home and 5-3 on the road for 12-4

I don't think we're watching the same Ravens.

They don't score enough and if they do, the defense can't finish. It's been this way for years.

Evil Vito 12-28-2016 11:26 AM

The NFL changes so much year to year except for a scant few teams who always make the playoffs (Pats, Seahawks, and Packers). Forecasting next year's record this early is silly.

SlickyTrickyDamon 12-28-2016 04:32 PM

Steve Smith Sr. will retire after this Sunday's game.

Droford 12-28-2016 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #BrotherVito DELETED (Post 4906135)
The NFL changes so much year to year except for a scant few teams who always make the playoffs (Pats, Seahawks, and Packers). Forecasting next year's record this early is silly.

You can count on Cleveland being shitty so there's 2 wins. Cincinnati will be bad again next year 2 more wins. Jacksonville is a win even having to go to London. Chicago won't be any better another win..then they probably should best Tennessee Houston Detroit Miami and Minnesota barring some craziness. The only games in question are Pittsburgh Indy Green Bay and KC

As far as Smith retiring everyone pretty much knew that from the day he announced he was coming back so no surprises there. Would really like the Ravens to get a solid #1 WR but they'd never had one so whatever..the only big names at WR free agents next year are Baldwin and Jeffrey I don't see the Ravens landing either one..

#1-norm-fan 12-28-2016 06:24 PM

Remember all the "locks" they had this season?

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4906087)
Do you ever think of the amount of times you've said that about the Ravens over the past couple years and been wrong and thought "Maybe this team isn't as good as I think they are"? Honestly curious how you can watch the Ravens lose "easy games" so much and not start to figure it out.


Ruien 12-28-2016 07:39 PM

Remember the Jets.

Droford 12-28-2016 07:48 PM

Losses to
Oakland 2nd seed in AFC by 1 pt
Redskins should make the playoffs when the Lions choke
Giants 2nd best record in NFC
Jets ..ugh
Cowboys #1 seed nfc
Patriots #1 seed AFC
Steelers Won the Division

So only bad loss was to the Jets. If They win that game they'd be in the playoffs as a wild card.

Ruien 12-28-2016 10:20 PM

But if they are a legit playoff team they won't lose to every good team. They will, you know, actually win some of those games.

SlickyTrickyDamon 12-29-2016 12:47 AM

Losses to:

Bills-with 3rd stringer

Seattle-Pretty bad D all night keeping them in the game. No excuses, though. The better team won that night.

#1-norm-fan 12-29-2016 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 4906312)
Losses to
Oakland 2nd seed in AFC by 1 pt
Redskins should make the playoffs when the Lions choke
Giants 2nd best record in NFC
Jets ..ugh
Cowboys #1 seed nfc
Patriots #1 seed AFC
Steelers Won the Division

So only bad loss was to the Jets. If They win that game they'd be in the playoffs as a wild card.

You just gonna ignore that you guaranteed they'd win many of those games?

Also, look at the wins they got. They beat a lot of lousy teams (sometimes by the skin of their teeth) and lost to good ones (and the Jets lol). Pretty much what a team who isn't all that good does.

#1-norm-fan 12-29-2016 04:13 AM

When "if only they could have beaten the 2016 New York Jets then they'd be in contention for a wild card spot in week 17" is what you're hanging your hat on, you really gotta re-evaluate how highly you rate your football team.

SlickyTrickyDamon 12-29-2016 07:17 AM

He's also basing one loss on the fact that one team they lost to MIGHT be a playoff team.

Mercenary 12-29-2016 10:12 AM

Yeah lets not forget the Pats special teams blunders was the only reason that game was close

poopfromweiner dude 12-29-2016 12:19 PM

LMAO DROFORD THE JETS ARE THE WORST FUCKING FOOTBALL TEAM IVE EVER SEEN

ITS FUCKING EMBARRASSING TO LOSE TO THEM

ANYONE WHO LOSES TO THE JETS IS AN AWFUL FRANCHISE

RAVENS FUGGIN SUCK DICK DUDE

Evil Vito 12-29-2016 12:22 PM

I agree. The Ravens suck.

Droford 12-29-2016 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4906514)
When "if only they could have beaten the 2016 New York Jets then they'd be in contention for a wild card spot in week 17" is what you're hanging your hat on, you really gotta re-evaluate how highly you rate your football team.

Its the truth though. It sucks 1 bad loss cost them the playoffs. Bunch of teams have bad losses. Seattle lost to the Rams..it didn't cost them anything cause that whole division is garbage Seahawks included.

#1-norm-fan 12-29-2016 03:10 PM

... You think the Ravens are better than the Seahawks don't you?

#1-norm-fan 12-29-2016 03:16 PM

Also, you know why else that loss to the Rams didn't matter? Because the Seahawks beat the Jets. And they also beat good teams like the Falcons and the Patriots (on the road, no less) to make up for it. Something good teams often do. The Ravens couldn't make up for it with wins over good teams. Because they're not very good.

Simple Fan 12-29-2016 03:21 PM

So Droford has the Ravans with at least a 11-5 record for next season. It's not all that unreasonable but still a stretch. Miami will be better, Cincinnati will not be locks, and Minnesota should be better as well. 8-8 seems more reasonable.

Ruien 12-29-2016 07:19 PM

Ravens will also suck again.

Droford 12-29-2016 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4906711)
... You think the Ravens are better than the Seahawks don't you?

The Ravens blew out the Dolphins at home and would have scored more than 3 pts vs the Rams in LA. And they wouldn't have tied the cardinals 6-6 and lost to them late in the season with a bye hanging in the balance.

So yeah.

Droford 12-29-2016 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simple Fan (Post 4906721)
So Droford has the Ravans with at least a 11-5 record for next season. It's not all that unreasonable but still a stretch. Miami will be better, Cincinnati will not be locks, and Minnesota should be better as well. 8-8 seems more reasonable.

Bengals won't be any better. They will have a ton of cap space and probably make big splashy moves but unless they can Marvin Lewis and get a new QB they won't be any better.
Minnesota won't either because they still won't have an offense.
The Dolphins are 10-6/11-5 and won't be better than that. Plus they have to play Denver Oakland Tampa Atlanta KC and the Ravens along with the Patriots twice. There's at least 6 losses in that group right there

#1-norm-fan 12-29-2016 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4906711)
... You think the Ravens are better than the Seahawks don't you?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 4906845)
The Ravens blew out the Dolphins at home and would have scored more than 3 pts vs the Rams in LA. And they wouldn't have tied the cardinals 6-6 and lost to them late in the season with a bye hanging in the balance.

So yeah.

Jeeeeeeeeeesus.

#1-norm-fan 12-29-2016 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4906087)
Do you ever think of the amount of times you've said that about the Ravens over the past couple years and been wrong and thought "Maybe this team isn't as good as I think they are"? Honestly curious how you can watch the Ravens lose "easy games" so much and not start to figure it out.

I'm definitely gonna need a response to this because the more you talk about the Ravens the more I just need to know exactly what goes through your mind to allow you hold on to your delusion. It's fascinating.

Ruien 12-29-2016 11:46 PM

Do you think anyone would enjoy going to a sporting event with Droford? Would probably leave halfway through the game.

Droford 12-29-2016 11:51 PM

Not counting family members I've only been to 2 baseball games with someone. Went to a bunch of Orioles games with family before they died. The 2 games were An 8-0 Os loss to the Yankees in Old Yankee Stadium may 21 2008 with my Ex GF (day after the os won 12-2 go figure) and Matt Wieters first game as an Oriole back on May 29, 2009 with her vs the Tigers..she broke up with me 2 months or so later.

#1-norm-fan 12-29-2016 11:54 PM

Don't get sidetracked. Need you to respond, please.

Droford 12-29-2016 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4906879)
Jeeeeeeeeeesus.

The Ravens could beat the Seahawks. Of all the Division winners they are the biggest fraud. At least the Texans went 5-0 vs the shitty teams in the AFC South (comparable to the NFC West) the Seahawks are 2-2-1 vs the duvision. They scored 10 pts or less in 4 games going 0-3-1. 2-4-1 on the road (ooh they beat the Patriots!!!..the only other road win was vs the Jets)

#1-norm-fan 12-30-2016 12:01 AM

The Ravens were also locks to beat the Jets, right? And the Giants, right? And they def. should have beaten Dallas, right? And they were sure to beat Pittsburgh. After all, they OWN them and Worthlessburger, right? And let's go back to that 5 win season last year and all those guaranteed wins. Again...

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4906087)
Do you ever think of the amount of times you've said that about the Ravens over the past couple years and been wrong and thought "Maybe this team isn't as good as I think they are"? Honestly curious how you can watch the Ravens lose "easy games" so much and not start to figure it out.


Droford 12-30-2016 12:10 AM

Last year was due to an unprecedented number of injuries. No one remembers how they were beating Denver (eventual SB champions) 13-9 in the 3rd quarter week 1 before Suggs tore his Achilles and set the injury tone for the rest of the season. Denver sealed the game with an 10 minute drive in the 4th quarter which was solely on the defense being sapped after losing suggs.

#1-norm-fan 12-30-2016 12:12 AM

You're gonna avoid this issue like the plague, aren't you? It's very telling...

Droford 12-30-2016 12:19 AM

Outside of last year the Ravens haven't been sub .500 since Harbaugh started in 08 which factors out to be 95-63. Only NE 117-40 Green Bay 99-56-1 and Pittsburgh 98-55 have been better. They have 10 playoff wins which is 2 more than Seattle and New England have. They also won a Super Bowl in that time period just like those 3 ahead of them dud. So fuck your nonsense about the Ravens not being a good team

#1-norm-fan 12-30-2016 12:26 AM

The Ravens were good back when they won the super bowl years ago. So were the 49ers. Now stop being an idiot and acting like them being good in years prior means they're good forever...

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4906087)
Do you ever think of the amount of times you've said that about the Ravens over the past couple years and been wrong and thought "Maybe this team isn't as good as I think they are"? Honestly curious how you can watch the Ravens lose "easy games" so much and not start to figure it out.

New question. Are you not responding to this question because you know there's no answer you can come up with that will allow you to keep being delusional?

Droford 12-30-2016 12:51 AM

I remember in 2014 when they lost to the Steelers 43-23 in November and ended up playing them again in the Wild Card gsme. 30-17 but no one was giving the Ravens a shot at winning..certainly not the next week either. Then the next week they blew 2 14 or leads to the eventual SB Champions.

#1-norm-fan 12-30-2016 12:52 AM

I remember references about Droford saying the Ravens would start this season 13-0 but I never actually saw the post. I totally believe he did it though. Gonna need someone to link me to that post to add it to my megapost of delusional Droford Ravens fail quotes. Maybe seeing them all in one post will be the wake up call he needs to realize just how warped his view of this team is. This is some crazy serial killer levels of avoiding reality.

Droford 12-30-2016 12:54 AM

I jokingly said after they started 3-0 along with the Patriots itd be funny if it was a reverse of 2007 when the Ravens almost beat the Undefeated patriots in Baltimore.

#1-norm-fan 12-30-2016 12:58 AM

Oh alright.

Were you joking with all your other Ravens predictions, too? Has the last page and a half of you trying to explain how the Ravens are a great football team/better than Seattle been you just joking?

(I'm giving you a way out here. You should take it.)

Droford 12-30-2016 01:05 AM

I never actually predicted win/loss this year..just said it was an easy schedule compared to 2015s 3 west coast trips

Droford 12-30-2016 01:21 AM

2014 I predicted 11-5 they went 10-6 plus a playoff win
2015 I predicted 11-5 they went 5-11

Droford 12-30-2016 01:26 AM

Going ON THE FUCKING RECORD IN DECEMBER for 2017

HOME:
Cincinnati W
Cleveland W
Pittsburgh W
Houston W
Indianapolis L
Chicago W
Detroit W
Miami W
AWAY:
Cincinnati W
Cleveland W
Pittsburgh L
Jacksonville (London)W
Tennessee W
Green Bay L
Minnesota W
Oakland L
12-4
Scrutinizing the schedule a bit I can already see how the schedule will fuck the Ravens over. The London game is week 4/5 meaning early bye week. Definitely will go to either GB or KC in December when its freezing.

Loss to Indy just because aside from the SB playoff run they never play Indy well.

Edit for replacing KC with Oakland

#1-norm-fan 12-30-2016 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 4906917)
I never actually predicted win/loss this year..just said it was an easy schedule compared to 2015s 3 west coast trips

You predicted a win almost every week and guaranteed a win in many...

You predicted them to be world beaters and they ended up being knocked out of the playoffs before week 17 like pretty much everyone else expected. And it raised no red flag in your mind.

Ruien 12-30-2016 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 4906912)
I jokingly said after they started 3-0 along with the Patriots itd be funny if it was a reverse of 2007 when the Ravens almost beat the Undefeated patriots in Baltimore.

You typed like 3 paragraphs explaining why the Ravens would be 13-0-. It was not a joke. It was you being idiotic.

#1-norm-fan 12-30-2016 09:15 AM

Hmm. I believe Ruien. Ruien is a trustworthy man.

#1-norm-fan 12-30-2016 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 4862188)
I jokingly have predicted that the week 14 game vs the Patriots will be a reverse of the 07 game in that the Ravens will be undefeated (12-0) headed into that game like the Pats were. Only game right now that I'd sweat is vs the Steelers week 9 (home after a bye week). The annoying thing is the Steelers share the bye week so no advantage there.
@Jags
Raiders (Probably the next game I'm slightly worried about)
Redskins
@ Giants (i will be there)
@ Jets
Bye
Steelers
Browns (Thursday night after election)
@ Dallas (Ravens have never lost to Dallas, extra days to prepare)
Bengals
Dolphins

I mean seriously..look at that schedule..4 road games but technically the 2 in NJ might as well be pseudo home games..

... Yeah, that's not a joke.

SlickyTrickyDamon 01-01-2017 04:40 PM

Brady MVP.

#1-norm-fan 01-01-2017 04:44 PM

Droford will be here shortly to explain why Joe Flacco is the obvious MVP.

Evil Vito 01-01-2017 04:53 PM

You can't be the MVP if you missed a quarter of the season and your team went 3-1 without you.

SlickyTrickyDamon 01-01-2017 05:17 PM

25 TDs to 2 INTs.

He can. He will.

SlickyTrickyDamon 01-01-2017 05:17 PM

Goodell can suck a dick.

Droford 01-01-2017 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4907787)
Droford will be here shortly to explain why Joe Flacco is the obvious MVP.

Close. Justin Tucker

#1-norm-fan 01-01-2017 05:25 PM

If that were anyone but Droford, it would be an obvious joke...

Evil Vito 01-01-2017 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4907808)
25 TDs to 2 INTs.

He can. He will.

Who cares? He missed a quarter of the season and there is no evidence to suggest that they wouldn't have won the division without him. 3-1 record without him which translates to 12-4 over a full season. Still would've won the division by 2 games.

Evil Vito 01-01-2017 05:49 PM

It's most VALUABLE player. Pats are a playoff team without Brady. Falcons aren't shit without Matt Ryan.

Droford 01-01-2017 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4907818)
If that were anyone but Droford, it would be an obvious joke...

Well he was officially the Ravens MVP

#1-norm-fan 01-01-2017 05:56 PM

Congrats to Justin Tucker for being King Shit of Turd Mountain.

Ruien 01-01-2017 06:01 PM

Luck should be the MVP. Ryan and Carr are close.

SlickyTrickyDamon 01-01-2017 06:06 PM

Luck? Da fuck?

SlickyTrickyDamon 01-01-2017 06:09 PM

2 out of 3 good MVP picks by Ruien ain't bad though.

Ruien 01-01-2017 08:51 PM

Yes STD, everyone knows you hate Indy. Tell me, who would you pick to win a game: Browns or Colts without Luck?

Mercenary 01-01-2017 10:11 PM

If I was picking MVP tbh I go with Prescot or E. Elliot

#1-norm-fan 01-01-2017 10:29 PM

I'd go with Prescott for the simple fact that Dallas had a decent running game last year. Elliot obviously made it better... but they had one. And they couldn't win a game. They didn't have a QB. So value-wise Prescott made a HUGE fucking difference. Took them from a team who couldn't win a game without Romo to locking up the #1 seed 2 weeks early. Elliot is the better Rookie of the Year candidate but Prescott should have the edge for MVP.

Ruien 01-01-2017 10:36 PM

I doubt either will win it due to the fact both were that great with the offensive line.

#1-norm-fan 01-01-2017 10:47 PM

The offensive line was the same last year though and the team was still dreadful. The only real changes to the team were Dak and Zeke.

Ruien 01-01-2017 11:18 PM

Ya I get it was the same. It's going to factor into the decision though. The RB and QB were both beyond good which will detract voters.

SlickyTrickyDamon 01-02-2017 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mercenary (Post 4907996)
If I was picking MVP tbh I go with Prescot or E. Elliot

They will split the vote.

Mercenary 01-04-2017 10:21 AM

http://www.totalprosports.com/2017/0...t-party-video/


Brady will somehow be at fault for this

Crimson 01-05-2017 03:13 PM

Why not Derek carr? I'm surprised his name isn't mentioned more. How many comebacks did he have? Without him Raiders will be lucky to be 8-8

Emperor Smeat 01-05-2017 05:39 PM

Chip Kelly rumored to be the Pats top choice if Josh McDaniels leaves for a head coaching job this offseason.

SlickyTrickyDamon 01-05-2017 06:16 PM

Don't think Brady will want to look at Kelly and then say "what play am I running Coach." His system has failed in the pros now twice. If he can learn that players in the pro level don't need hand-holding like college players need he could succeed.


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