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Fabien Barthez 10-23-2008 01:12 PM
I'd still love to see the cut. Or just hear a bit more from him about it than the predictable garbage he said on TV.

There is more to it than meets the eye. (NPI) If it was as honest as made out, there wouldn't be so much silence on the matter. I think Ken is lucky with the outcome of the fight, because had Kimbo done as expected, the MMA media would have been firmly knocking on his door seeking answers.

Kris P Lettus 10-23-2008 02:59 PM
http://www.mma-core.com/videos/_TUF_...001959&tid=107

TUF Episode 6

Junie is such a dick..

Kris P Lettus 10-23-2008 03:07 PM
Dana on the fall of EXC..

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Kris P Lettus 10-23-2008 03:10 PM
Dana's UFC 90 blog..

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Kris P Lettus 10-23-2008 03:28 PM
Chuck Liddell talks about Rashad, Rampage, Silva, and Couture..

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Innovator 10-23-2008 03:48 PM
Nevada State Athletic Commission says that Mario Yamasaki will ref the Couture/Lesnar fight

Kris P Lettus 10-23-2008 03:51 PM
Quote:
Affliction Entertainment, the fledgling fight promotion that first splashed onto the MMA scene with its ubiquitous t-shirts, has rejected a bid to partner with the industry-leading UFC.

MMAWeekly.com spoke to multiple industry sources that confirmed that the basics of a deal had been brokered to allow Affliction back into the organization as a major clothing sponsor, including the possibility of UFC/Affliction co-branded apparel.

The UFC banned the clothing company in January of 2008 when they learned of Affliction’s desire to promote MMA events.

In exchange for the formal partnership, Affliction would agree to cease operations as a fight promoter. Select fighter contracts from Affliction’s talent roster would presumably be bought out by the UFC.

A meeting took place between UFC and Affliction executives on Sept. 26, where the idea was first openly discussed. Affliction Vice President Tom Atencio was present, in addition to UFC president Dana White. According to a source, Randy Couture and his lawyers may have attended the meeting as well. Talks were cordial, and Affliction executives agreed to come up with a proposal of their own. All agreed the group would reconvene in a short time period to sort through the issues of a potential deal.

Communication began to deteriorate, though, with Affliction’s ad campaign for EliteXC’s “Heat,” on Oct. 4. The airing of several ads trumpeting Fedor Emelianenko’s return reportedly made UFC executives wary the deal was not being taken seriously.

The partnership was placed further in doubt by Affliction’s lucrative licensing deals with UFC champions Randy Couture and Georges St. Pierre. Couture’s clothing line, Xtreme Couture, is controlled by partners of Affliction, according to court filings from the now-dismissed legal action with the UFC concerning Couture’s employment agreement. Couture has a substantial, but minority interest in the popular clothing brand.

Affliction had also partnered with boxing promoter Golden Boy on Sept. 13, announcing a deal to co-promote four boxing/MMA hybrid cards in 2009.

Two weeks passed since the first meeting with no constructive communication between Affliction and the UFC. Both sides believed the deal was off the table, but on Monday, a conference call took place between, among others, Lorenzo Fertitta and Todd Beard, Affliction’s co-founder.

Though the deal was not formally rejected by Affliction, it was clear that the goodwill between the parties had disappeared. While it’s unclear how the conversation went south, it went south quickly, with both parties directing profanities at one another. Towards the end, Beard reportedly told Ferttita, “you’ve (expletive) with the wrong guy.”

Needless to say, Affliction’s window of opportunity with the UFC appears to be closed.

A resolution between the two companies may have been beneficial for both. The UFC could have counted one less competitor, and potentially picked up fighters like Emelianenko and Arlovski, ensuring a robust future for its heavyweight division. Affliction could have re-established a proven revenue stream and cemented itself with a company that’s rapidly approaching global proportions.

But ultimately for Affliction, the decision that got them kicked out of the organization has kept them from getting back in.

According to sources from within Affliction and CBS, there may be little reason for the clothing company cum fight promoter to mourn the loss. Talks of a broadcast partnership that could place Affliction on primetime television are ongoing.

Few details have emerged on the shape of Affliction/Golden Boy’s first announced co-promotion in January, though Atencio confirmed that the card would showcase only mixed martial arts events. Emelianenko is still the headliner of the show, facing Andre Arlovski for the World Alliance of Mixed Martial Arts heavyweight belt on Jan. 24 at The Honda Center in Anaheim, Calif.
Affliction are stupid for not making this deal happen..

Rob 10-23-2008 04:45 PM
I don't know if i even believe that happened.

Rob 10-23-2008 04:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fabien Barthez (Post 2324073)
I'd still love to see the cut. Or just hear a bit more from him about it than the predictable garbage he said on TV.

There is more to it than meets the eye. (NPI) If it was as honest as made out, there wouldn't be so much silence on the matter. I think Ken is lucky with the outcome of the fight, because had Kimbo done as expected, the MMA media would have been firmly knocking on his door seeking answers.
I doubt it. His cut is legit. How it got it is another story. I don't think he fucked it up anyway purely because I can't see Ken Shamrock refusing $250k.

Kris P Lettus 10-23-2008 05:26 PM
Anderson Silva's best pound for pound fighter..

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Reavant 10-23-2008 05:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus (Post 2324280)
Affliction are stupid for not making this deal happen..

how are they stupid? the stipulations of the deal are that theyd have to stop promoting fights and only certain fighters were going to be bought up anyway.

It would be horrible if UFC ate them up.

Im glad at least someone in the business has integrity and cares about the fighters

Kris P Lettus 10-23-2008 05:59 PM
I can see your point but, they already had to cancel a show due to the money not being there.. I can see that happening again.. They have the chance to be a sponsor to the biggest MMA promotion ever, instead they are gonna end up a t-shirt company who failed at being a contender in the sport of MMA.. Then even those fighters who UFC is interested in right now, will be just as unemployed as the fighters they are not interested in..

Kris P Lettus 10-23-2008 06:02 PM
p.s. don't get me wrong, I hope they do well, cause competition is great for the sport of MMA as a whole.. The better the comp is, the better UFC has to be to remain on top.. I just don't think they'll be able to contend in the long run..

Rob 10-23-2008 06:15 PM
UFC would be stupid for taking those huge contracts. Affliction have maybe 2 more shows in them before them go under.

Reavant 10-23-2008 06:30 PM
affliction only had a plan for 3 shows anyway. I think they were just trying to open the door for other companies but with this elite xc fuck up, its not lookin good

Kris P Lettus 10-23-2008 06:35 PM
Quote:
Affliction website promotes Emelianenko vs. Arlovski for Jan. 24 | MMAjunkie.com

Fedor Emelianenko will apparently meet Andrei Arlovski in the "Affliction: Day of Reckoning" main event, after all.

Although Affliction Entertainment Vice President Tom Atencio recently declined to confirm any details of the event, the organization's website now promotes a Jan. 24 headline fight between the current WAMMA heavyweight champion and the former UFC title-holder.

Josh Barnett, Matt Lindland, Vitor Belfort, Vladimir Matyushenko, Jay Hieron, Antonio Rogerio Nogueira, Renato "Babalu" Sobral and Chris Horodecki are also promoted as event participants.

The event was originally scheduled to take place Oct. 11 in Las Vegas, but "Day of Reckoning" organizers postponed the event last month. As MMAjunkie.com (UFC blog for UFC news, UFC rumors, fighter interviews and event previews/recaps | MMAjunkie.com) previously mentioned, a new partnership with Oscar De La Hoya's Golden Boy Promotions was cited as the reason for the postponement, but slow ticket sales may also have factored into the decision.

"Day of Reckoning" is expected to take place at the Honda Center in Anaheim, Calif. The main card will air on pay per view, and the preliminary card is slated to air on HDNet.

Arlovski (14-5) was last seen successfully defeating IFL champion Roy Nelson at "EliteXC: Heat" earlier this month. The bout was a co-promoted affair between Affliction and the now-defunct EliteXC, which recently alerted the Nevada State Athletic Commission that it's ceased operations.

Prior to the Nelson victory, Arlovski defeated former IFL stand-out Ben Rothwell at Affliction's debut event in July. At that same event, Emelianenko (28-1) defeated former UFC heavyweight champion Tim Sylvia with a quick submission victory in the night's main event.

For the latest on "Affliction: Day of Reckoning," including full event coverage, check out the MMA Rumors section of MMAjunkie.com.

Kris P Lettus 10-24-2008 12:26 AM
I posted these in Casual but I know some of you don't frequent there.. These are some MMA sketches I've been working on..

Miguel Torres with a triangle choke..

http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/5...lechokekp0.jpg

Quinton "Rampage" Jackson

http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...e95764ded6.jpg

What do you guys think??

Reavant 10-24-2008 12:30 AM
nice

Kris P Lettus 10-24-2008 12:36 AM
Thanks, bro..

Quote:
Brock Lesnar may be training for the biggest fight of his short career when he faces off against Randy Couture at UFC 91 in Las Vegas, Nevada in November. Lesnar knows he will face off against stiff competition when he faces Couture, so lesnar’s representatives have asked the NSAC to remove veteran referee Steve Mazzagatti from consideration to officiate the bout.

Lesnar’s representatives, David Olsen and Brian Stegeman told Sherdog.com about why they asked for “Mazz” to be removed from consideration.

Lesnar’s reps claim he was “involved in what we believe was a controversial ruling in connection with the Mir-Lesnar fight.” Lesnar’s reps told Sherdog. ”They asked that Mazzagatti be removed from consideration for the UFC 91 main event to avoid “distraction” and “any further controversy.”
The incident they are speaking about is when Mazzagatti took a point away from lesnar for hitting Frank Mir in the back of the head at UFC 81 earlier this year. Lesnar was critical several times of Mazzagatti’s point deduction in the bout.

Head of the NSAC Keith Keizer said he thought Mazzagatti did a great job calling the fight at UFC 81.

“I think Mazzagatti did a great job that night,” Kizer said.
With Lesnar’s request to have Mazzagatti removed from consideration, you have to wonder if this could actually come back to hurt Lesnar in his professional MMA career. I am not a referee, but I am pretty sure Lesnar’s blows were illegal from what I remember. Besides will referees backlash at Lesnar for attempting to pick and choose his officials? I guess we will find out in the near future.
He has a point but it seems kinda unprofessional..

I dunno..

Destor 10-24-2008 01:01 AM
Hell yeah has a point. Still not smart though.

Kris P Lettus 10-24-2008 09:22 PM
Anderson Silva All Access

http://www.mma-core.com/videos/_Ande...001970&tid=107

Kris P Lettus 10-24-2008 09:26 PM
Short ESPN Interview with Anderson Silva

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How can you not totally love that guy??

Kris P Lettus 10-25-2008 01:35 AM
This is the Ferrall interview with the Affliction guys..

Super anti-UFC.. It's funny cause Dana even said that Ferrall used to be all on UFC's nuts (which he did cause I used to listen to him on Sirius) until EXC and Affliction offered him more money.. His loyalty is bought and sold.. I used to like him..

:(

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Kris P Lettus 10-25-2008 02:30 PM
Couture talks about training for Lesnar..

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Loose Cannon 10-25-2008 02:51 PM
looking foward to Koscheck/Alves tonight the most. Koscheck is a cocky mother fucker, but I always like his fights. His personality makes his fights so much more entertaining

Loose Cannon 10-25-2008 02:52 PM
Unfortunately, I think he's going down

Kris P Lettus 10-25-2008 02:55 PM
Thiago is gonna push his shit in..

Innovator 10-25-2008 02:58 PM
Thiago Alves, the wrestler killer

Loose Cannon 10-25-2008 03:08 PM
Silva apparently is a paintball nut.

Loose Cannon 10-25-2008 03:09 PM
and owns a pair of Tazz slippers.

Kris P Lettus 10-25-2008 03:09 PM
Make you predictions..

UFC® 90 SILVA vs COTE


<table id="FightCardPrint" class="data_table" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><thead> <tr> <th>Name</th> <th>Height</th> <th>Weight</th> <th>Record</th> <th> </th> <th>Name</th> <th>Height</th> <th>Weight</th> <th>Record</th> </tr> </thead> <tfoot> </tfoot> <tbody> <tr class="data_row_alt"> <td>Anderson Silva</td> <td>6' 2" (188 cm)</td> <td>185</td> <td>22-4-0</td> <td style="padding: 0pt; text-align: center;">http://uk.ufc.com/images/events_vs.gif</td> <td>Patrick Cote</td> <td>5' 11" (180 cm)</td> <td>185</td> <td>14-4-0</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td>Josh Koscheck</td> <td>5' 10" (178 cm)</td> <td>170</td> <td>13-2-0</td> <td style="padding: 0pt; text-align: center;">http://uk.ufc.com/images/events_vs.gif</td> <td>Thiago Alves</td> <td>5' 9" (175 cm)</td> <td>170</td> <td>21-4-0</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row_alt"> <td>Rich Clementi</td> <td>5' 9" (175 cm)</td> <td>155</td> <td>40-12-1</td> <td style="padding: 0pt; text-align: center;">http://uk.ufc.com/images/events_vs.gif</td> <td>Gray Maynard</td> <td>5' 8" (173 cm)</td> <td>155</td> <td>6-0-1</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td>Fabricio Werdum</td> <td>6' 4" (193 cm)</td> <td>231</td> <td>11-3-1</td> <td style="padding: 0pt; text-align: center;">http://uk.ufc.com/images/events_vs.gif</td> <td>Junior Dos Santos</td> <td>6' 4" (193 cm)</td> <td>238</td> <td>6-1-0</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row_alt"> <td>Sean Sherk</td> <td>5' 6" (168 cm)</td> <td>155</td> <td>36-3-1</td> <td style="padding: 0pt; text-align: center;">http://uk.ufc.com/images/events_vs.gif</td> <td>Tyson Griffin</td> <td>5' 6" (168 cm)</td> <td>155</td> <td>12-1-0</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td>Thales Leites</td> <td>6' 1" (185 cm)</td> <td>185</td> <td>13-1-0</td> <td style="padding: 0pt; text-align: center;">http://uk.ufc.com/images/events_vs.gif</td> <td>Drew McFedries</td> <td>6' 0" (183 cm)</td> <td>185</td> <td>7-4-0</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row_alt"> <td>Spencer Fisher</td> <td>5' 7" (170 cm)</td> <td>155</td> <td>22-4-0</td> <td style="padding: 0pt; text-align: center;">http://uk.ufc.com/images/events_vs.gif</td> <td>Shannon Gugerty</td> <td>5' 10" (178 cm)</td> <td>155</td> <td>11-2-0</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td>Dan Miller</td> <td>6' 1" (185 cm)</td> <td>185</td> <td>9-1-1</td> <td style="padding: 0pt; text-align: center;">http://uk.ufc.com/images/events_vs.gif</td> <td>Matt Horwich</td> <td>5' 11" (180 cm)</td> <td>185</td> <td>24-9-1</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row_alt"> <td>Hermes Franca</td> <td>5' 6" (168 cm)</td> <td>155</td> <td>19-7-0</td> <td style="padding: 0pt; text-align: center;">http://uk.ufc.com/images/events_vs.gif</td> <td>Marcus Aurelio</td> <td>5' 10" (178 cm)</td> <td>155</td> <td>16-6-0</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td>Josh Burkman</td> <td>5' 10" (178 cm)</td> <td>170</td> <td>20-6-0</td> <td style="padding: 0pt; text-align: center;">http://uk.ufc.com/images/events_vs.gif</td> <td>Pete Sell</td> <td>5' 11" (180 cm)</td> <td>170</td> <td>7-5-0</td></tr></tbody></table>

Silva
Alves
Maynard
Dos Santos (hearing good things about this guy from the world of kickboxing)
Griffin
McFredries
Fischer
Horwich
Franca
Drago

Rob 10-25-2008 06:01 PM
Silva
Alves
Clementi
Werdum
Sherk
Leites
Fisher
Miller
Aurelio
Sell

Those stats are all wrong too. Most of the fighters weighed in a pound over. Silva was a pound under, Cote was 2 under. Dos Santos weighed 234 and Werdum is at a career heaviest of 256lbs. His weight gain is worrying really.

Kris P Lettus 10-25-2008 06:43 PM
Yeah I heard people talking about his weight..

I just pulled the fight card from UFC.com..

:-\

Confused 10-25-2008 08:27 PM
Pictures of me with Dan Hardy and the gentleman Chris Lytle at UFC 89 be this way -> http://www.bebo.com/PhotoAlbumBig.js...mId=9246758699

Would have uploaded them on here but i'm shite with computers and technical stuff!

Rob 10-25-2008 08:31 PM
Yet you have a bebo? :p

Kris P Lettus 10-25-2008 08:32 PM
That is awesome..

:y:

Confused 10-25-2008 08:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob (Post 2325880)
Yet you have a bebo? :p
Bebo has managed to make the uploading of pics near idiot proof now! :p

Rob 10-25-2008 08:34 PM
LOL I met that blonde tart too in Rococo's or something. I was doing some drunken body popping and she loved it :D Blind bitch.

Confused 10-25-2008 08:36 PM
Them two fellas were absolute gentlemen.

Managed to turn what was quickly turning into a very shite weekend a very memorable one! Just wish i could have said or done more than the obligatory thanks Dan / Chris and good luck in future for the class they showed! :)

Confused 10-25-2008 08:38 PM
Oh sweet Jesus. I'm holding a Smirnoff ice in the Lytle pic! Please believe me when i say it was for me mate :P


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