TPWW Forums

TPWW Forums (https://www.tpwwforums.com/index.php)
-   wrestling forum (https://www.tpwwforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=10)
-   -   Ratings Thread (https://www.tpwwforums.com/showthread.php?t=132687)

Mr. Nerfect 01-01-2022 04:24 PM

The only upside to the TBS move is if it’s a macro strategy to drive people to HBO Max. It’s not going to be as popular as BBT in that time slot — especially with women. So it’s kind of a noose around AEW’s neck for any other reason.

My prediction is that AEW eventually gets pushed to a later slot when advertisers and audiences want their sitcom back.

xrodmuc316 01-01-2022 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5510833)
The only upside to the TBS move is if it’s a macro strategy to drive people to HBO Max. It’s not going to be as popular as BBT in that time slot — especially with women. So it’s kind of a noose around AEW’s neck for any other reason.

My prediction is that AEW eventually gets pushed to a later slot when advertisers and audiences want their sitcom back.

They could always get promoted to the Turner Classic Movies channel.

Mr. Nerfect 01-02-2022 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5510844)
They could always get promoted to the Turner Classic Movies channel.

TruTV for the ultimate push.

Jordan 01-02-2022 03:19 PM

I guess you guys haven't read about the additional terms on the TBS deal which tripled the income over the length of the original deal with TNT.

AEW on TBS is 3x more profitable than on TNT WHICH IS EHY TONY HAS SIGNED 3X MORE WRESTLERS

Mr. Nerfect 01-02-2022 03:40 PM

You’re amazing, Jordan.

Mr. Nerfect 01-02-2022 05:56 PM

I also overlooked that they are in several million more homes. That’s several million more viewers for Dynamite, baby!

Mr. Nerfect 01-03-2022 02:42 PM

Getting excited for this week’s Dynamite rating. The numbers are more exciting than the prospect of the show.

slik 01-03-2022 04:11 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">When assessing what the top 1,000 rated cable shows of 2021 were, the dominance of three genres of content is striking. Sports, cable news and reality shows account for 91% of the top 1,000 when looking at the data among 18-49s <a href="https://t.co/pjLEzmcicA">https://t.co/pjLEzmcicA</a> <a href="https://t.co/Z7bDlhEQOO">pic.twitter.com/Z7bDlhEQOO</a></p>&mdash; Variety (@Variety) <a href="https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1478075866571685890?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mr. Nerfect 01-03-2022 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5511374)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">When assessing what the top 1,000 rated cable shows of 2021 were, the dominance of three genres of content is striking. Sports, cable news and reality shows account for 91% of the top 1,000 when looking at the data among 18-49s <a href="https://t.co/pjLEzmcicA">https://t.co/pjLEzmcicA</a> <a href="https://t.co/Z7bDlhEQOO">pic.twitter.com/Z7bDlhEQOO</a></p>&mdash; Variety (@Variety) <a href="https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1478075866571685890?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Is this original programming or does it include reruns?

slik 01-03-2022 04:31 PM

Does not include reruns to my knowledge

Mr. Nerfect 01-03-2022 04:34 PM

TK: “Hey Variety! I see you like to talk about numbers, huh? Well how’s that Variety YouTube channel against ours!?”

Mr. Nerfect 01-03-2022 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5511376)
Does not include reruns to my knowledge

When that stuff isn’t included, I think it does omit a large slice of what people’s tastes are and how they like to spend their time.

It’s important to know what sort of original programming is working, but it just leaves out the context of how effective original programming is at all.

slik 01-03-2022 04:38 PM

Why would TK be upset with Variety...odd post.

It's a positive WWE and AEW have stuff in the top 1000.

Mr. Nerfect 01-03-2022 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5511379)
Why would TK be upset with Variety...odd post.

It's a positive WWE and AEW have stuff in the top 1000.

TK doesn’t like the truth being told about his company. Citation: The Fox News article.

xrodmuc316 01-03-2022 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5511379)
Why would TK be upset with Variety...odd post.

It's a positive WWE and AEW have stuff in the top 1000.

Because pretty much anything can trigger that creepy weirdo.

Mr. Nerfect 01-03-2022 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5511392)
Because pretty much anything can trigger that creepy weirdo.

I guarantee he doesn’t like Raw and NXT accounting for over four times what AEW is worth.

Triple A 01-03-2022 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5511375)
Is this original programming or does it include reruns?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5511378)
When that stuff isn’t included, I think it does omit a large slice of what people’s tastes are and how they like to spend their time.

It’s important to know what sort of original programming is working, but it just leaves out the context of how effective original programming is at all.

It just says "Top 1,000 Cable Shows" with no caveats that I could find from skimming the article, so presumably it's all cable shows including reruns. No reason to assume stuff is omitted since they didn't say it was (from what I could see, unless I missed something)

Ruien 01-03-2022 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5510263)
I think if SD was on say, USA Network, on Friday Nights it would have less viewers than RAW tbh. I think being on FOX helps a LOT with them regularly cracking 2 million.

I think that's also why they loaded up all the men's main-event talent to RAW, WWE realized SD will get 1.9 - 2.3 million no matter what, so they left Roman/Drew/Brock and sent everyone else to RAW bc RAW needs all the help it can get.

SD is also 2 hours. You need those extra big hitters for a three hour show. Roman or Brock can take 30 to 45 minutes out of the 90ish (after commercials). Give the females their 15/20 minutes. Fill in the rest with Drew, New Day, and whatever else mid card/tag teams are around and its a good.

If RAW went back to 2 hours the product would improve so much.

xrodmuc316 01-03-2022 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruien (Post 5511402)
SD is also 2 hours. You need those extra big hitters for a three hour show. Roman or Brock can take 30 to 45 minutes out of the 90ish (after commercials). Give the females their 15/20 minutes. Fill in the rest with Drew, New Day, and whatever else mid card/tag teams are around and its a good.

If RAW went back to 2 hours the product would improve so much.

I agree completely, and I dont even think it is the quality, because even when they hold off on the biggest stuff until the 3rd hour, that 3rd hour is still the lowest rated. I dont know if people are just tuning out to go to sleep, or if 2 hours is enough.

Id be interested to see how they would do with a 3 hour show from 7-10 instead of 8-11. Would he 3rd hour still drop off, or would they keep the ratings up until 10:00pm like they do now.

slik 01-04-2022 01:33 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">On New Years Eve, AEW Rampage (TNT) was watched by 453,000 viewers and did a 0.19 P18-49 rating. Ranked #21 on Showbuzz's list.<br><br>Smackdown's &quot;best of&quot; episode preempted to FS1 due to New Years Eve programming on Fox, was watched by 378,000 and did a 0.08 P18-49 rating, #58.</p>&mdash; Brandon Thurston (@BrandonThurston) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1478385412498497539?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 4, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mr. Nerfect 01-04-2022 02:14 PM

A 3hr show is just not doable every week. That third hour is always going to suck and when you use that to skewer the WWE Raw rating, it doesn’t really reflect how each hour does in its respective slot. USA seems fine with the third hour being what it is. I don’t think WWE are concerned by a show-wide average.

TNARICK1 01-04-2022 02:26 PM

Rampage bleeding viewers on a day where 90% of the workforce was at home.

Mr. Nerfect 01-04-2022 02:30 PM

Definitely a terrible number for Rampage. I couldn’t even be bothered laughing at them anymore.

Mr. Nerfect 01-04-2022 02:46 PM

And you’re not wrong about people actually being at home. TV viewership was up dramatically for a Friday. People just chose to watch college football and a dancing baby or whatever.

xrodmuc316 01-04-2022 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5511560)
People just chose to watch college football and a dancing baby or whatever.

Wait, Tony Khan made an actual appearance on Rampage?? :rofl:

Mr. Nerfect 01-04-2022 04:51 PM

Oh, I meant an animated dancing baby or whatever it is yanks watch on TV at New Year’s. But your joke about people watching college football OVER a dancing baby works too.

xrodmuc316 01-04-2022 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5511597)
Oh, I meant an animated dancing baby or whatever it is yanks watch on TV at New Year’s. But your joke about people watching college football OVER a dancing baby works too.

Lol, nope I was saying Tony Khan IS the dancing baby, because all he does is cry and stamp his foot :rofl:

XL 01-05-2022 09:27 AM

(It’s not as funny when you have to explain it)

xrodmuc316 01-05-2022 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 5511725)
(It’s not as funny when you have to explain it)

It is not AS funny, but it is still pretty funny :rofl:

slik 01-05-2022 12:49 PM

The Brock effect

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WWE Raw, Monday on USA Network:<br>1,716,000 total viewers<br>P18-49 rating: 0.45 (592,000)<br><br>Highest total viewership since October 4.<br>�� <a href="https://t.co/1SscdBCpr8">https://t.co/1SscdBCpr8</a> <a href="https://t.co/31p7EfnpqA">pic.twitter.com/31p7EfnpqA</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Thurston (@BrandonThurston) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1478750073668440066?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 5, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mr. Nerfect 01-05-2022 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 5511725)
(It’s not as funny when you have to explain it)

He didn’t have to explain it. Hence my comment about people watching college football OVER dancing babies (AEW).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5511771)
The Brock effect

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WWE Raw, Monday on USA Network:<br>1,716,000 total viewers<br>P18-49 rating: 0.45 (592,000)<br><br>Highest total viewership since October 4.<br>�� <a href="https://t.co/1SscdBCpr8">https://t.co/1SscdBCpr8</a> <a href="https://t.co/31p7EfnpqA">pic.twitter.com/31p7EfnpqA</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Thurston (@BrandonThurston) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1478750073668440066?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 5, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

And people say he doesn’t draw.

Wait until Meltzer puts out a thing saying that Brock has never been the draw Kenny Omega is.

Jordan 01-05-2022 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5511789)
He didn’t have to explain it. Hence my comment about people watching college football OVER dancing babies (AEW).



And people say he doesn’t draw.

Wait until Meltzer puts out a thing saying that Brock has never been the draw Kenny Omega is.

. In Japan Kenny is a much bigger draw than Brock was. Brock wasn't even putting on good matches like Kenny.

Kenny definitely has more classic wrestling matches than Brock even though they both do a similar suplex over and over in their matches.

Kenny is probably a bigger star than Brock in the eyes of most fans because Kenny wrestles every week and so statistics say that Kenny is the bigger draw and ratings star because he appears more often than WWE's Brock Lesnar.

Plus Kenny has merch in many different areas from shirts, toys and is EVP of AEW and leads AEW games. Kenny reach is further than Brock because Brock just shows up here and there and then goes back to the farm.

Kenny's matches also are much better.

Jordan 01-05-2022 03:18 PM

Also the first Monday of the year is always a huge ratings night for cable tv so that explains why WWE has a big rating from Monday.

xrodmuc316 01-05-2022 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5511771)
The Brock effect

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WWE Raw, Monday on USA Network:<br>1,716,000 total viewers<br>P18-49 rating: 0.45 (592,000)<br><br>Highest total viewership since October 4.<br>�� <a href="https://t.co/1SscdBCpr8">https://t.co/1SscdBCpr8</a> <a href="https://t.co/31p7EfnpqA">pic.twitter.com/31p7EfnpqA</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Thurston (@BrandonThurston) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1478750073668440066?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 5, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Tony Khan sits up at night alone crying into his white claws because he will never have as big of a star as BRRRRRRRRRROCK LEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSNARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

slik 01-06-2022 03:29 PM

685K for NXT New Years Evil, which is up about 4%

Mr. Nerfect 01-06-2022 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan (Post 5511797)
. In Japan Kenny is a much bigger draw than Brock was. Brock wasn't even putting on good matches like Kenny.

Kenny definitely has more classic wrestling matches than Brock even though they both do a similar suplex over and over in their matches.

Kenny is probably a bigger star than Brock in the eyes of most fans because Kenny wrestles every week and so statistics say that Kenny is the bigger draw and ratings star because he appears more often than WWE's Brock Lesnar.

Plus Kenny has merch in many different areas from shirts, toys and is EVP of AEW and leads AEW games. Kenny reach is further than Brock because Brock just shows up here and there and then goes back to the farm.

Kenny's matches also are much better.

Love this. :lol:

Mr. Nerfect 01-06-2022 04:10 PM

1.01 million for Dynamite’s big debut.

Sepholio 01-06-2022 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan (Post 5511797)
. In Japan Kenny is a much bigger draw than Brock was. Brock wasn't even putting on good matches like Kenny.

Kenny definitely has more classic wrestling matches than Brock even though they both do a similar suplex over and over in their matches.

Kenny is probably a bigger star than Brock in the eyes of most fans because Kenny wrestles every week and so statistics say that Kenny is the bigger draw and ratings star because he appears more often than WWE's Brock Lesnar.

Plus Kenny has merch in many different areas from shirts, toys and is EVP of AEW and leads AEW games. Kenny reach is further than Brock because Brock just shows up here and there and then goes back to the farm.

Kenny's matches also are much better.

In the eyes of most fans? I'm being 100% serious here when I say you are literally the first person I have ever heard say Kenny Omega is a bigger star than Brock Lesnar. Brock has mainstream appeal and recognition; no one outside of wrestling fans has any idea who Kenny is.

slik 01-06-2022 04:50 PM

AEW back over a million for their debut on TBS, nice

slik 01-06-2022 04:54 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">AEW Dynamite finished #2 on cable for its debut on TBS, per Showbuzz Daily.<br><br>18-34 audience was through the roof for the show. Rating in that demo was up 79 percent from last week.</p>&mdash; John Pollock (@iamjohnpollock) <a href="https://twitter.com/iamjohnpollock/status/1479204408118452227?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 6, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">P18-34 viewers were 239,000, which is Dynamite’s fourth-highest in the history of the program. <br><br>It’s also a larger aged 18 to 34 audience than either Raw or Smackdown have done since Smackdown on November 26 recorded 266,000 viewers in the age group.<a href="https://t.co/1SscdBCpr8">https://t.co/1SscdBCpr8</a> <a href="https://t.co/hCOyQXZujG">pic.twitter.com/hCOyQXZujG</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Thurston (@BrandonThurston) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1479204208947699716?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 6, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:30 AM.

Powered by vBulletin®