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Maybe I need to sleep on it, but almost everything sucked. Someone tell Drebin it will all be ok.
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I see a slight rope burn and a bunch of face paint from Stardust. Maybe a bruise on a his shoulder, but that could be paint too. Nice job tonight though.
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If you do, can you please go back in time and do it before I watched SummerSlam? I will die much happier.
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What a blah show. Especially after what was an amazing NXT special that was far and away better than Summer Slam.
The main event was actually great, a lot better than anything I'd expected. Except for that shitty finish. Taker tapping out to lose would've been so much more interesting for his character at this point in his career and would've further cemented Brock as the fucking man. Instead, we get this "controversial" bs finish by submission, even though I don't recall Brock submitting, and now they've wasted beating to streak to trade a win back to the Undertaker. Seems like a waste. Who was it saying that Summer Slam wasn't going to be automatically lesser than NXT? Far and away it was the inferior show. What sayeth you now? |
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Didn't even read the results for what I missed in the first half until now. So Bray Wyatt got ass raped? Well that's cool. He'll just cut an ominous promo tomorrow night and we'll all pretend he's still a remote threat, right?
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By a fucking mile. Summer Slam was the B show this weekend.
The divas match tonight was also a fucking joke. In no way was it any more identifiable than the other diva matches they've been putting on the past decade or so. So much for a revolution. |
Also Big E Dancing. For Days.
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whose next in line for a WWE world title shot now.. Cena will get his rematch and lose and then who ?
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Jon Stewart turning heel is pretty cool on paper. Didn't see the show. I hope Rollins makes him the honorary US Champion or something. Bring back David Arquette for a US Title at Night of Champions.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">No, i'm not your son. When I was 17 you told me that I'd never make it because I'm black <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GetOffMe?src=hash">#GetOffMe</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SubtweetinAss?src=hash">#SubtweetinAss</a> <a href="https://t.co/2c9CFoO5uG">https://t.co/2c9CFoO5uG</a></p>— Xavier Woods (@XavierWoodsPhD) <a href="https://twitter.com/XavierWoodsPhD/status/635683149855498240">August 24, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
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The superstars section on WWE.com doesn't show Seth Rollins as the United States Champion. I do not think that the title was absorbed in to the WWE World Heavyweight title like when (then reigning World Heavyweight Champion) Triple H defeated (then Intercontinental Champion) Kane. If they intend to continue with the championship, I sincerely hope that Rollins does not relinquish it so that a new champion can be crowned at "Night of Champions". |
According to people at the event, Undertaker started to collapse after his match against Lesnar. Was walking to the back, got woozy, and had to crawl a bit to reach the backstage curtain.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The story after <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SummerSlam?src=hash">#SummerSlam</a> may be the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Undertaker?src=hash">#Undertaker</a>'s health. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Taker?src=hash">#Taker</a> collapsed after <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Lesnar?src=hash">#Lesnar</a> match. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash">#WWE</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Wrestling?src=hash">#Wrestling</a> <a href="http://t.co/7Sp6P1Swt3">pic.twitter.com/7Sp6P1Swt3</a></p>— The チャド (@ThaChadwick) <a href="https://twitter.com/ThaChadwick/status/635675013446635521">August 24, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
Cena-Stewart feud with Rollins playing the Miz "I don't belong here" role. After that... WWE calls it quits. They've run through everything already. WrestleMania is 4 hours of Fandango dancing. PPV buys are through the roof. All wrestling ceases to be and all that is left is Fandango. You understand? Fandango is all that is left.
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Geez, it might be time to call it quits for Taker.
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How does Heyman react to the screwy SummerSlam finish. With RAW being Vince McMahon's 70th birthday, it'd be a good opportunity to have Heyman confront Vince McMahon and talk about some changes that need to happen...
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It'd be a good way to get the edge off The Authority storyline too. Heyman can hit up Vince for some control, or else he and Brock will walk. Vince gives him a 60-day trial as the WWE's General Manager.
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Heyman's thoughts about the Summerslam PPV (watching in the theater).
Heyman's thoughts about the Summerslam PPV (watching in the theater).
1) There was an amazingly hot Asian MILF sitting beside me and she brought her 3-4 year old son to watch. I literally wanted to eat her vagina while simultaneously stroking my cock. Almost went to the bathroom during the women's match to go jerk off and lick my own semen with her in mind. 2) People on here seem to be disappointed by the PPV as a whole, but the nearly sold out theater that I went to greatly enjoyed the event. Some gave it a standing ovation in the end. 3) Many people on here are disappointed by the Lesnar/Taker finish, but I think it was the perfect finish for a few reasons: A) You can't have 50 year old Taker going cleanly over Brock as it would ruin his credibility. B) On the flip side, the WWE needed to pay respect to Taker's legacy and Wrestling career and so Lesnar squashing Taker again wouldn't have been good for business. C) This non-conclusive match sets-up Lesnar/Taker at Mania in front of Taker's home crowd in what will likely be Taker's swan song (with Lesnar ending Taker's career, and making Taker go 22-2). 4) New Day is way the fuck over. I didn't realize how over they were since I barely watch wrestling these days, but these guys are great. The fans in attendance and in the theater really loved these guys as did I. 5) After watching Cesaro tonight, my opinion of him has changed. While I love Cesaro, I don't think he presently has that "it" factor needed to be THE guy. I am now in agreement with posters Noid and The CyNick on this. 6) The Wyatt's are still 'over', but the WWE needs to do something significant with Bray this year otherwise the WWE risks not capitalizing on his potential star power. 7) Sheamus, Titus O'Neil, and Dean Ambrose really impressed me tonight. Miz wasn't too bad either. Randy Orton looked disinterested in his match, while Big Show also looked like he was going through the motions. 8) I think Kevin Owens has an outside shot of being "the face" of the company if he leans out significantly. 9) Roman Reigns is unfairly getting crapped on by the fans. I think he's much better than people give credit. 10) Was very impressed with Rollins/Cena. |
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so basically heyman wants to stroke his dick around kids, we should watch his opinions of sports entertainment a little more closely....jesus christ dude. the fuck
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'Taker looks like he's on some roller coaster at like a Six Flags or some shit. Brock looks like he got stoned out of his mind backstage before the match.
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No. In the hypothetical scenario where I was able to lick the Asian MILF's vagina while jerking myself off, I would greatly prefer it if the kids left the theater as to not witness what was going on. As far as Summerslam goes, which parts do you disagree with? You don't see the value of the Lesnar/Taker controversial finish? You disagree with my comments on Orton and Show being lackluster? You disagree with my assertion that New Day, Sheamus, Titus O'Neil, and Miz looked pretty good? You disagree with my thoughts on Reigns being underrated, and Ambrose being terrific? Sounds to me like you're upset because I believe your nemesis, #1wwf-fan, is a much better poster than you are. |
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NormalSmiley "most likely" fantasizes about smelling Ryback's underwear directly after Ryback finishes wrestling matches, lollll.
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Not a terrible show, but not great either. I found the screwy ending of Taker-Lesner took away from the match, but I get why they did it....I wish they could've found a better way to have done it (maybe kinda like Hogan-Andre?) I'd say this was a B to B+ inda show.
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If they didn't want to have a finish to Taker/Lesnar why just not book the storyline? Why do they keep stalling on Lesnar? This guy breaks the streak and then destroys Cena decisively.... Why are they making these decisions?
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That was the first main roster WWE I watched since the Raw after Mania. Couple of good matches but that in no way made me want to start watching again. Goddamn.
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1) Sweet. Go for it, man. 2) Haven't actually watched, but I guess a larger audience could make a car crash seem like a good show. 3) I agree with those asking "Why even book Lesnar/Taker in the first place?". There's a whole of "where now?" going on in WWE at the moment. Two part-timers that aren't even going to be on RAW in a few weeks continuing personal issues? No thanks. And I have no interest in another Brock vs. Taker match. They're using the match to set up another match? Why? 4) The New Day are great. Best decision to have them win back the Tag Titles. They remind me of Edge & Christian. Cocky heels that win when it comes down to the wire. If they kept losing, they'd be over, but you'd be running them dry. I'm not sold on the Prime Time Players yet, but the story structure here is good. 5) Cesaro should have won the match. If for no other reason that Kevin Owens was in a fucking Ladder Match the night before. But Cesaro was the face. I get that people think the heel should win the first match in a series, but I feel that the face needs to get you to believe in them. Owens could attack Cena on RAW and get his heat back. Cesaro is now ranked steadily below a whole bunch of guys. They're putting a cap on him. 6) Agreed. If I were Seth Rollins, I'd be shitting myself about both Brock Lesnar and John Cena. Best solution? Make an offering of the US Title to Bray Wyatt and Luke Harper. You're buying two tough heels to watch your back. And The Wyatts need to bounce back, surely even in Bray's mind. It'd be a mutually beneficial relationship. And given his issues with Roman Reigns and Dean Ambrose, and the next PPV being a title-oriented one, having some gold gives him a reason for being on the show; but he can also use the title to cause friction between Reigns and Ambrose. Eg. "Sure, I'll defend the US Title against one of you homeboys...but you need to sort out who it will be by fighting each other first, and I know both your egos are too big to lie down. Muwahahahaha." 7) Not really much to say on this. Sheamus shouldn't talk so much. Randy Orton is a great babyface, but they never really know what to do with him. Big Show is a bit directionless. Titus O'Neil is missing something, but has something. I dunno, don't really feel like he's "wrestlery" enough. Kind of a PR gimmick. I want to see Dean Ambrose and Roman Reigns properly feud. 8) Kevin Owens has an aura. Just don't say what you said about him, or people will call you Jim Cornette and attribute you to hating the guy. He's got a bad-ass vibe and has an accessibility that few guys have. I'd like to see him clash with some heels and see if people buy him as a face. 9) Agreed. Reigns is getting good at piecing together his matches. I think smart business would be to turn him heel, but I see Ambrose turning on him first, even though people will still probably cheer insane heel Ambrose more than white-meat babyface Reigns. 10) Rollins and Cena are both fantastic. No clue where they go now, and not in a good way, but I imagine their rivalry continues. |
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EC3 IS all kinds of awesome on TNA. Basically one of the few reasons I keep watching.
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Did he really? I missed that match...
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Like I said - you can't have Lesnar squash Taker again due to Taker's legacy in the WWE. Taker would have looked like a bitch had Lesnar completely dominated again. To show respect to Taker, the WWE absolutely did the right thing in having Taker come back to stand up to Lesnar. On the flip side - it would have been inappropriate for a 50 year old Taker to go over cleanly over Lesnar. Hence - Lesnar still got the better of Taker at Summerslam, even though Taker got in his offense as well. Even though Taker was shown to tap out, Taker was made to look strong enough to compete with Lesnar and choke him out with Hell's gate. Wrestlemania will be in Taker's home state this year and will likely be Taker's last match. Taker will job once again to Brock at Wrestlemania, as it will be best for business. By having Brock pre-occupied with Taker, it allows Roman Reigns to face either Seth Rollins or John Cena for the title......while giving Reigns the win. At the Wrestlemania after this one (2017), you can have Reigns go up against Lesnar again for the WWE/World title. Hopefully by this time, Reigns will be a little more mature in terms of his wrestling ability and charisma. |
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Nobody has any interest in another taker match.the guy has had an amazing career but the mystique of lesnar taker was foiled when taker already has wrestled at mania since the streak got busted. A wrestlemania win over taker does nothing for lesnar.
And once again wwe shit on their own product not putting the wwe title in the main event. And I think you are still high off the asian milf pussy scents or the no tears shampoo of her child because reigns is getting booed into oblivion and still cant win over a crowd |
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There really doesn't need to be a third Undertake vs. Lesnar.
Taker "won", but Brock got the "moral victory." It would be more interesting if Undertaker gloated about his victory, only for Brock to be like "whatever, you know I won, I'm done with you." Taker could get angry that no one gives him credit for beating the beast, which could lead to a bitter, biker-esque Taker run. It could work. |
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LOL. True (about Reigns), but the child demographic can easily be influenced. Cena gets booed royally by everyone, but kids love the guy. Why can't kids grow to love Reigns one day? (Or have the WWE cater/tailor Roman Reigns towards kids as they did with Cena back in 2005). |
I don't think you guys really comprehend the Wrestling business if you don't see value in Undertaker
1) Wrestling one final match in his home state of Texas 2) Lesnar retiring the Undertaker 3) Another Flair/HBK / HBK/Taker moment being created 4) A potential Ric Flair-like send off for Undertaker the next night on RAW. Another added benefit in not having Lesnar in the main-event, is that it gives both Reigns and Rollins another year to really develop their characters and mature as wrestlers.........so that in 2017 when one of these guys DOES face Lesnar in the main-event of Wrestlemania (and goes over clean), they will truly be ready to be the new face of the WWE. |
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Couldn't you get the same (or bigger) Mania moment at Cowboy Stadium against Cena? That would at least be a Mania match we've never seen before. Why sacrifice Lesnar to a guy who only likely has one match left when you could have given the rub of beating him to almost literally anyone else? I get why they went with the finish they went with. I don't get why they went with the match in the first place.
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1) I agree about Cena/Taker, but I think there's something to be said about Taker having his final match ever in front of his home state of Texas. 2) Lesnar - Lesnar will ultimately be used to put someone over at Mania, but the timing and opponent has to be right. Outside of Cena, Reigns is really only that guy in my opinion. I would rather see Reigns go over Cena or Rollins for the title at this Wrestlemania 2016, and then have Reigns look extremely dominant between Wrestlemania 2016-2017. This will also give Reigns some more time to develop as a wrestler and performer. In the mean-time, you can have Lesnar "end" Undertaker at Wrestlemania 2016, and then have him destroy other guys during 2016 (i.e. Cena again, and perhaps Reigns' good buddy Dean Ambrose). THEN - you can have Reigns go over Lesnar cleanly at Wrestlemania 2017. |
Dude you are so hung up on rollins v reigns as your 3w main event that you are blindly booking out of your ass.
Why sacrifice lesnar When taker could wrestle the fucking barbarian or warlord at mania and get his send off. The opponent matters not. And the least he could do is lose the beer gut And you are thinking of having reigns go over lesnar clean at 33 in lesnars hometown and you think THAT is gonna go over well? |
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Because, Taker and Lesnar are already in a heated rivalry. Either one of Lesnar or Taker going cleanly over the other guy at Summerslam would have been a bad decision. Lesnar going over Taker would have been bad since it would've continued to make Taker look weak, while giving him limited momentum heading into Mania' in his home state (to which, he'd either go over some random mid-carder in a lackluster match - his final match - OR, go up against John Cena......and hence - sort of ending his career on a sour note due to consecutive losses to different wrestlers). On the flip side - Lesnar losing cleanly would have been a horrible booking decision since you need to keep Lesnar strong once he inevitably does a job to either Reigns or Rollins at Wrestlemania 2017. Taker-Lesnar at Wrestlemania 2016 is perfect, because there's emotion behind Taker's last match in his home state, while it also further adds to Lesnar's legacy because he was the guy to end Taker's streak AND his career. Quote:
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Would've felt better about Taker/Lesnar at Mania 32had Taker lost a close match last night. Could use the "I have to know" gimmick, drawing out Lesnar one more time only to lose for the final time.
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Yeah, sorry Heyman; but I'm not on board with Taker vs. Lesnar VIII or whatever it is now. I'm just not wrapped up in that story. Taker is almost certainly going to wrestle at Mania, but I'm not sure who they put him against. The best suggestion I've seen is actually Shawn Michaels. Fuck it, I'd take Luke Harper before Brock Lesnar at this point.
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Few things: 1) HBK said that he will never wrestle again 2) Austin will never wrestle again as he is too physically crippled (although I have heard contrasting reports that state that Austin *would* come back for one last match if the storyline was right?). 3) The problem with most people not wanting Taker/Lesnar at Mania', is that they think that Taker can simply job like a bitch to Brock (again), and then expect the fans to be excited at the idea of Taker fighting someone at Wrestlemania. Unfortunately, that's not how things work......which leads me to #4. 4) On the other side of the spectrum, you can't have Lesnar job to 50 year old Taker because this makes Brock look really bad.....and now all that time you spent re-building the credibility of Brock over the past two years, takes a major hit. The WWE's biggest goal should be to make both Undertaker and Lesnar look very strong for a few reasons: A) By having Lesnar look strong, and having him be the guy that ends BOTH the streak and career of Taker, it further adds to Brock's legacy, while also making the guy that eventually does go over Brock, look even MORE credibile. B) By having Taker look strong, and not looking like a complete bitch by not getting revenge on Brock, it pays respects to Undertaker's career and legacy. A guy that his given his life to the WWE, should not be made to look like a bitch. Hence - I'm glad that Taker was made to look like he pushed Lesnar at Summerslam. A 3rd match adds to the Taker/Lesnar rivalry, and Taker will also get his wish of "giving back to the business" when he does his final JOB to Brock in front of his hometown fans. The WWE Universe then gets treated to another Ric Flair-esque retirement the next night on RAW. For all these reasons, I think Taker/Brock III (IV if you count 2003) is by far the best way to go. |
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I'm not saying any of those guys are likely to be options looked at by Vince and/or Triple H, but I wanted to at least try and think outside the box of guys you listed. And, yeah, Cena? As world champ? AGAIN?! No disrespect, Heyman, but, yeah...nobody wants to see that again. NOBODY. |
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Bro - I would LOVE it if the WWE pushed Ambrose a la Daniel Bryan style. I just don't see it happening right now unfortunately. And no - I *don't* want to see Cena become champ again (maybe 1-2 extremely brief runs so that he ties/breaks Flair's record), but other than that, I want one of Reigns/Rollins to be the next guy. |
I think your 73 recycled posts about it lets us all know that you want reigns. The masses don't. Not now.
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It's not about what I want you little fuck boy. It's about what the WWE will most likely do. Reigns will either go over Rollins or Cena at Mania this year, while Lesnar will retire Taker. In 2017, Reigns will make Brock Lesnar suck his dick in front of Lesnar's hometown fans. Hence - making Reigns the new Cena, while making Lesnar HIV positive. #74 |
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