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Big Vic 12-30-2016 03:23 PM
I like Braun because he is the only character that wins matches besides Roman Reigns.

Cool King 12-30-2016 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 4907053)
I like Braun, and I'm cool with him main eventing a ppv like roadblock, but fuck off with him winning the rumble. His character is nowhere near developed or interesting enough to be winning the rumble and challenging for a title at mania.

He should have one of tne strongest showings at tne event but eventually get tossed, mayabe by a group of guys.
Yeah, something along the lines of Braun eliminating at least 10 entrants or if the WWE want to go all out, then Braun eliminating 15, but having Braun eliminate half the entrants would mean that he would break Reigns' record and I can't see Vince & Co. wanting that record broken, at least any time soon.

But having him eliminate a good amount then to be elimated by, I dunno, The New Day, would be alright. Maybe then he could go on to face The New Day in a 3-on-1 Handicap Match at WrestleMania.

Blonde Moment 12-30-2016 08:52 PM
Sammy will be Brauns Kryptonite at the rumble

Emperor Smeat 12-30-2016 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by PWI
The 12/29 "Hardy New Year" edition of TNA Impact Wrestling garnered 224,000, up in comparion to last week's Year In Review edition of Impact, which brought in 209,000 viewers.

It was still down from the last episode featuring "original" in-ring content, the 12/15 Total Nonstop Deletion episode, which brought in 329,000 viewers.

So, while viewership was up for the Hardy special, they didn't crack the 300 K mark.
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Originally Posted by Observer
A major story involving the New York area is that Charter Communications (Spectrum Cable) and NBC Universal are in a dispute. As of right now, if a new deal isn't reached by midnight tomorrow, when the contract expires, then 16 million homes around the country, including much of New York, will be without not only NBC but MSNBC, Bravo, E!, USA and Syfy. I've seen some stuff to rally people against the cable company and in pushing shows people won't be able to see, they have mentioned Raw, Smackdown ad Total Divas. Usually these things get worked out because the contract would expire before Sunday Night Football which is a huge show.
Thought this was pretty interesting considering WWE would be losing their big historical hotspot if this happens.

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Originally Posted by Observer
There is a weird story as a Go Fund Me was set up for John Yurnet, who wrestled on Tuesday night's 205 Live show against Mustafa Ali and apparently blew his knee out. He's trying to raise $10,000 in medical expenses for an MRI and surgery. As of this morning they had raised $1,995. It's weird because WWE usually covers injuries to talent, but Yurnet is not under a WWE contract, although he wrestled in a WWE ring. There is also a lot of talk that Yurnet was injured before the match and not on the first spot of the match as was first said.
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Originally Posted by Observer
There was a brief injury scare with Bo Dallas last night in Boston. The report was that they stopped his match early and the ref gave an "X" sign, but he seemed okay after because his gimmick all week is that after losing in a multiple person match, he then challenges anyone from the back to come out and refuses to leave the ring. Big Show then knocks him out. And after the match was stopped, he did recover and issued the challenge spot.
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Originally Posted by Observer
New Japan announced that Masahiro Chono would be doing Japanese commentary for Wrestle Kingdom 11.
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Originally Posted by PWI
Speaking of Wrestle Kingdom 11, here is the announced lineup:

*IWGP Heavyweight champion Kazuchika Okada vs. Kenny Omega.

*IWGP Intercontinental champion Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Tetsuya Naito.

*NEVER Openweight champion Katsuyori Shibata vs. Hirooki Goto.

*IWGP Junior Heavyweight champion KUSHIDA vs. Hiromu Takahashi.

*ROH champion Kyle O'Reilly vs. Adam Cole.

*IWGP Tag Team champions The Guerrillas of Destiny vs. Great Bash Heel vs. Toru Yano & Tomohiro Ishii.

*Cody Rhodes vs. Juice Robinson

*IWGP Junior Heavyweight Tag Team champions The Young Bucks vs. Roppongi Vice.

*NEVER Openweight Six Man Tag Team champions Satoshi Kojima & Ricochet & David Finlay vs. BUSHI & EVIL & SANADA vs. CHAOS' Jado & Will Ospreay & YOSHI-HASHI vs. The Bullet Club's Hangman Page & Yujiro Takahashi & Bad Luck Fale.

*Tiger Mask W vs. Tiger The Dark.

*The usual pre-show Legends Rumble.
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Originally Posted by PWI
This past Wednesday at the Raw event in Brooklyn, NY, Kevin Owens heckled a fan in the audience by bragging about what he had made in the last week even breaking down the figures for each revenue stream, all while holding Roman Reigns in a headlock to the point that Reigns broke character and cracked up, as seen in a fan video below:

Owens was yelling at people and Roman could not stop laughing ???????????? pic.twitter.com/FxxJ6ISWQw
— jessica (@jesssberkowitz) December 29, 2016

That led to a back and forth between Owens and Reigns on Twitter in which Reigns claimed he was actually laughing at how little Owens made in comparison to what Reigns makes in merchandise sales.

John Cena stepped in this morning, lowering the boom on Reigns with the following:

While @WWERomanReigns was making fun of what people earn I was at @GeorgiaTechFB to #EarnTheDay #recognize pic.twitter.com/xbxlZuO0uR
— John Cena (@JohnCena) December 30, 2016
Reigns ended up responding to Cena's tweet against him: https://twitter.com/WWERomanReigns/s...44037111091200

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Originally Posted by PWI
Bobby Fish vs. Lio Rush has been added to the 2/4/17 Dallas, Texas return, so obviously ROH and Fish plan to continue working together if they don't come to terms on a new contract in the next 24 hours. It's also possible they will sign an extension of the old terms as they continue negotiating, something not all that unusual.
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A MAJOR toy company has denied shocking claims one of its WWE wrestler masks looks like the Yorkshire Ripper.

The Entertainer shot down concerns that the Roman Reigns mask on sale across the country resembles Peter Sutcliffe.

The infamous serial killer was convicted of murdering seven women and trying to kill seven others.

A worried parent contacted the Sun after seeing the toy gift in a Touchwood Shopping Centre in Solihull, Birmingham. He was convinced the mask looked the murderer who terrorised prostitutes during the 1970s and 1980s.

He said: “I spotted the mask in store on 25 November 2016 when with my son, who obviously had no idea why I was so interested in the mask, I even asked his mother who was with us, to take a look.

“I said to her think of a serial killer, and showed her the mask, without hesitation, and in an instant she said ‘The Yorkshire Ripper’.

“The mask looks nothing like the actual WWE wrestler, and I have shown a close up the mask to friends and they all said ‘The Yorkshire Ripper’.

“I think if this mask was taken onto the streets, and people were asked what serial killer does this mask look like, I think most would name Peter Sutcliffe, The Yorkshire Ripper.

“I do feel it should be removed from sale as the resemblance is too close to that of the Ripper, and could upset those associated with the case" ...

The Entertainer released a statement stating it had no plans to remove the mask from its store.

It read: “The Roman Reigns mask was produced for WWE by toy manufacturer, Jakks Pacific and The Entertainer toy shop is one of many retail stockists across the UK.

“We have received no other comments regarding the resemblance of this mask to other people, and there are no plans to de-list it from our shops across the UK

The manufacturer Jakks Pacific added: “The Roman Reigns WWE Mask & Muscle Dress up set includes a mask and costume based on the popular WWE wrestler, Roman Reigns, and designed with his likeness in mind. This is clearly stated on the fully WWE branded packaging of the product where an image of Roman is also displayed.”
Link to the news article: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/244956...ter-sutcliffe/


Some other sheet news includes:

Mr. Nerfect 12-31-2016 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Cool King (Post 4907063)
Yeah, something along the lines of Braun eliminating at least 10 entrants or if the WWE want to go all out, then Braun eliminating 15, but having Braun eliminate half the entrants would mean that he would break Reigns' record and I can't see Vince & Co. wanting that record broken, at least any time soon.

But having him eliminate a good amount then to be elimated by, I dunno, The New Day, would be alright. Maybe then he could go on to face The New Day in a 3-on-1 Handicap Match at WrestleMania.
I actually want Braun Strowman to be in the Andre Battle Royal and make it a big storyline that he wants to win the whole thing with him being eliminated by The New Day in that (they also have a RAW Tag Team Title match on the Kickoff, don't worry). I'm not that interesting in Strowman vs. Reigns, would rather see Jericho vs. Reigns; and while the idea of stretching out Strowman vs. Zayn was interesting to me, that ship seems to be sailing past. Put Strowman in the Battle Royal (and that seems to suit him perfectly) and have Zayn vs. Nakamura in Nakamura's first main roster match.

Mr. Nerfect 12-31-2016 04:37 PM
What role do you see Hogan playing if he came back? If I had to pick a role for him, I can see him raising American Alpha's arms in victory if they win the SmackDown Tag Team Championship at WrestleMania. I know Vince probably does have a serious hard-on for Jason Jordan, but the team is good for him at the moment -- he was going nowhere without it. Hell, he's arguably going nowhere with it now. Let them have a decent run together and get used to negotiating the main roster style before you split them off and give each a singles push (hopefully).

RP 12-31-2016 04:41 PM
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The 12/29 "Hardy New Year" edition of TNA Impact Wrestling garnered 224,000, up in comparion to last week's Year In Review edition of Impact, which brought in 209,000 viewers.

It was still down from the last episode featuring "original" in-ring content, the 12/15 Total Nonstop Deletion episode, which brought in 329,000 viewers.

So, while viewership was up for the Hardy special, they didn't crack the 300 K mark.

These are pretty big numbers for the Hardy's still. All things considered.

XL 12-31-2016 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4907382)
What role do you see Hogan playing if he came back? If I had to pick a role for him, I can see him raising American Alpha's arms in victory if they win the SmackDown Tag Team Championship at WrestleMania. I know Vince probably does have a serious hard-on for Jason Jordan, but the team is good for him at the moment -- he was going nowhere without it. Hell, he's arguably going nowhere with it now. Let them have a decent run together and get used to negotiating the main roster style before you split them off and give each a singles push (hopefully).
Jordan was a total lost cause in NXT before his pairing with Gable, so if for nothing more than a thank you to Gable they should stick together for a while. Not sure there's much to Jordan's personality without Gable to play off of.

#1-norm-fan 12-31-2016 09:59 PM
Haven't heard him cut a promo but from a wrestling stand-point, from a look standpoint and from a "showing emotion/personality in the ring" standpoint, Jordan is fucking fantastic.

Simple Fan 12-31-2016 10:08 PM
I just wish WWE would learn to get behind tag teams. American Alpha have all the tools to be a top tag team for years to come.

Evil Vito 12-31-2016 11:37 PM
Is Shelton Benjamin meant to be coming back to WWE once he recovers from injury? If so, American Alpha vs. The World's Greatest Tag Team needs to happen once. Have Kurt Angle do a run-in or something. I'd mark out.

Evil Vito 12-31-2016 11:37 PM
Charlie Haas is supposedly "retired" but it looks like he still takes spot bookings now and then. I doubt he'd turn down a couple of decent WWE pay dates to put over Alpha.

slik 01-01-2017 12:03 AM
Is Roman ROIDS really the right person to tell John Cena to power clean in the gym...

Mr. Nerfect 01-01-2017 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by XL (Post 4907403)
Jordan was a total lost cause in NXT before his pairing with Gable, so if for nothing more than a thank you to Gable they should stick together for a while. Not sure there's much to Jordan's personality without Gable to play off of.
Jordan is finding something. He always looked good, things just hadn't "clicked." As he gains confidence and develops the ability to connect to audiences he will eventually become ready to go off on his own and become, hopefully, a relative star for the company. But I don't think that time is now and I fear he'd become just another guy very quickly.

Mr. Nerfect 01-01-2017 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by #BrotherVito DELETED (Post 4907545)
Charlie Haas is supposedly "retired" but it looks like he still takes spot bookings now and then. I doubt he'd turn down a couple of decent WWE pay dates to put over Alpha.
Absolutely not, and I'm sure he's still on good terms with the company. Isn't he really good friends with Bradshaw? I'm not sure what pull Bradshaw officially has, but Haas seems like the sort of hand they'd love to have around, especially now there would be that hopeful acceptance that he isn't going to suddenly develop the personality of The Rock or anything.

I'd actually be fine with Haas & Benjamin getting a run with the Tag Titles as crafty veterans who still have a thing or two left to teach Alpha before dropping the belts back to them.

Fignuts 01-01-2017 07:37 PM
Agree about Jordan. He's displayed a lot more charisma and intesnity since teaming with gable.

Mr. Nerfect 01-01-2017 09:09 PM
One day Jason Jordan vs. Chad Gable will be a major match at WrestleMania. I hope.

Bad News Gertner 01-02-2017 07:44 AM
Major breaking news: I'm returning to 411mania.com to write my Mr.Dufour's Wayback Machine reviews.

Some weirdo was harassing me about sending him copies of shows to the point he was trying to get my home and work phone number. He'd leave me like 5-10 messages, emails a day. It was REALLY weird.

Fignuts 01-02-2017 08:20 AM
Sorry.

Emperor Smeat 01-03-2017 09:59 PM
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According to PWI, DDP is currently expected to be the first name announced for this year's WWE Hall of Fame class. Won't be the headliner since the WWE has a bigger name to be revealed later.

Spoiler tags used since its related to this year's WWE Hall of Fame class.

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Originally Posted by Observer
Braun Strowman, Chris Jericho, and all three members of The New Day were announced on Raw as entrants in the Royal Rumble match. They join Goldberg and Brock Lesnar (who were previously announced as the first two entrants) in the Rumble.
Add in Baron Corbin from tonight's Smackdown to make it 8 guys announced so far for the Rumble match.

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Originally Posted by PWI
All charges against WWE Hall of Famer Jimmy Snuka were officially dropped today during a hearing in Allentown, PA under Judge Kelly L. Banach, according to WFMZ TV in Pennsylvania. Banach dropped the charges after ruling that Snuka's mental health will not improve to the point that he could intelligently defend himself against the charges.

Both prosecution and Snuka's defense attorney, Robert Kirwan had pushed for a dismissal last August. Banach put that ruling off until today's hearing, waiting to see if Snuka's mental state improved or whether new evidence would be found that would cause her to rule Snuka was fit for trial. Neither happened and during an appearance via Facetime during a hearing last month, Snuka stated he did not remember ever speaking previously with Judge Banach.
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Originally Posted by Observer
Local police confirmed Monday's report in the Austrian tabloid Krone about an altercation involving Alberto Rodriguez (Alberto El Patron) and his brother Guillermo (El Hijo de Dos Caras) early Saturday morning at a party after a Friday night show in Leoben, Austria.

The report was that after a show Friday night, there was an altercation where the two brothers got into a fight and beat a guy up so badly he was hospitalized. Police were called and took them to the station where Alberto and Guillermo got into a fight with each other. Alberto knocked out his brother, who was also taken to the hospital. It took ten officers to separate them and they put Alberto in zip ties, which he broke out of. They finally subdued him by putting shackles to cuff his feet.

The story stated there was blood splattered on the walls of the police station and some furniture at the station was destroyed. The police confirmed the story, but would not release specific names, but stated the Krone article was greatly exaggerated.
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Originally Posted by Observer
Steve Corino and Kevin Kelly are in Japan to announce the New Japan events, which start late tonight after Raw with the matches at the Fan Axxess show at Differ Ariake in Tokyo. The Tokyo Dome show starts at 2:30 a.m. Eastern time late Tuesday night/Wednesday morning. The press conference airs starting at 10 p.m. Eastern time tonight on New Japan World.
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Originally Posted by Observer
Regarding the contract issues with Spectrum Cable and NBC, where the contract expired on 12/31 and the sides were apart in talks, both sides are still carrying the shows right now to keep service uninterrupted, so Raw will be available in the same amount of the country as usual.
Good news for the WWE considering how big the NY market is in terms of tv and for the company. Their potential pool for viewers would have shrunk by around 16 million if it had happened.

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Originally Posted by Observer
WWE will be trying out new Network content on Monday night with "Bring it to the Table" premiering after Raw goes off the air.

The pre-taped show will feature Peter Rosenberg as its host with Paul Heyman and JBL debating a variety of pro wrestling topics. The show appears to be modeled after similar debate-style sports programming regularly featured on stations like ESPN and FS1.
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Originally Posted by Observer
WWE is bringing WrestleMania back to New Orleans in 2018.

F4WOnline.com has confirmed that the city's Superdome will once again be home to WWE's biggest event of the year as WrestleMania 34 takes place in Louisiana. An official announcement is expected shortly.
Currently rumored to be made official during next week's RAW at New Orleans.

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Originally Posted by Observer
The World of Sport rating ... was 1.25 million viewers and a 7.3 market share. The number isn't high enough to guarantee the show gets turned into a series, nor low enough to guarantee that it doesn't. It's a lot lower than ITV did in the time slot the week before, but they were down all night, probably due to it being New Year's Eve.
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Originally Posted by PWI
Backstage at WWE Smackdown Live is independent talent Deonna Purrazzo, who portrayed La Luchadora last week and distracted Becky Lynch against Alexa Bliss. Purrazzo is there again to portray the masked character.
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Originally Posted by PWI
For the many of you who have written asking about rumors that WWE star Paige is pregnant based on stories that are floating around today, there is absolutely nothing to the stories.

The story started, based on my research, out of a Tweet Alberto El Patron sent out yesterday claiming he was pregnant, which led to Paige responding that he was her "seahorse" (as male seahorses carry babies, which by the way, the fact I am even writing about male seahorses being pregnant on a pro wrestling news site is completely ridiculous).

Somehow along the way, people who lack any sort of reading comprehension have turned the story into one that claims Paige is pregnant. That is not the case. What is the case is what was meant to be a silly comment on social media is now being used as the basis for a story on someone's medical condition, which really isn't fair, no matter who the subject is.

So, to conclude - Paige, not pregnant. Alberto El Patron, not pregnant. Male seahorses can get pregnant. Carry on.

Some other sheet news includes:
  • RAW's ratings and viewership has been delayed till tomorrow due to Monday being considered as part of New Year's holiday weekend.
  • ESPN had a recent interview with Finn Balor in regards to the upcoming UK Tournament and Will Ospreay's run in NJPW. http://www.espn.com/wwe/story/_/id/1...ocal-wrestling
  • Sports Illustrated had a recent interview with Kenny Omega as part of Wrestle Kingdom II's hype for tonight's show. http://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2017...restle-kingdom
  • Northeast Wrestling announced on Twitter that Kurt Angle will face Cody Rhodes in a steel cage match for their show on March 3rd. Currently planned to be Angle's final match on the indies based on recent reports and rumors. https://twitter.com/newwrestling1/st...99124315615232
  • According to Pro Wrestling Sheet, Paige was backstage at RAW yesterday as part of a routine WWE medical checkup for her current neck injury. Del Rio was also at RAW but only to pick her up after the testing was done.
  • Namco released a new trailer for Tekken 7 showing off more NJPW related content in the game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHWakqomVQo

Emperor Smeat 01-04-2017 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Observer
Raw ratings on Monday were up to 3.04 million viewers, an increase of seven percent, likely due to a combination of Bill Goldberg's appearance keeping the third hour from too much of a decline and slightly easier football competition ...

It was the most-watched Raw since the November 28th show headlined by the Charlotte vs. Sasha Banks women's title match.

Next week, going against the college football championship game, will be the last episode against football until the fall. The traditional bounce-back show should be on January 16th.

The three hours were:

8 p.m. 3.04 million viewers
9 p.m. 3.16 million viewers
10 p.m. 2.94 million viewers
Good news being this week having 200k more viewers and 2nd hour being the highest in a while. Bad news being RAW's best hour was only 8th for the Top 10 list and last year's show had 500k more viewers.

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Originally Posted by Observer
In a move expected since the end of 2016 and one discussed on this site frequently, Anthem Sports & Entertainment officially announced Wednesday night they have entered into a definitive agreement to acquire a majority interest in TNA Impact Wrestling.

The media company also owns The Fight Network, a big player in combat sports in Canada and 30+ countries, as well as TNA's exclusive broadcast partner in Canada.

In a press release, Anthem announced that Executive VP Ed Nordholm will become president of Anthem Wrestling Exhibitions, LLC. He's been the managing director of the company's Board of Managers since October 2016.

As for Dixie Carter, the release said she will step down as chairman of the board to join the advisory board of Fight Media Group "which holds all of the combat sports-related assets of Anthem, where her focus will be on the global growth of the combat sports-related brands owned by Anthem." She will remain a minority equity stakeholder.
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Originally Posted by Observer
Tonight’s two-hour episode of NXT features matches from the brand’s show in Melbourne, Australia last month. The full version of the NXT Championship cage match between Shinsuke Nakamura and Samoa Joe will air in the main event. The show will also feature DIY defending their tag titles against TM61, Ember Moon facing Liv Morgan and Billie Kay in a triple threat match, Tye Dillinger & Buddy Murphy teaming up to take on Bobby Roode & Elias Samson, and The Revival vs. Tino Sabbatelli & Riddick Moss.
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Originally Posted by Observer
Seth Rollins tweeted about Wrestle Kingdom 11 today: “Pretty awesome to see professional wrestling on all levels alive and well all over the world. #wrestlekingdom11”
Link to the tweet: https://twitter.com/wwerollins/statu...95424073531400

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Originally Posted by Observer
The announced paid attendance for Wrestle Kingdom 11 at the Tokyo Dome was 26,192 people, which was up from last year’s crowd of 25,204.

NJPW announced two “G1 specials” in California at the Long Beach Convention Center on July 1st and 2nd. The tournament itself will begin on July 17th and end with three straight nights in Sumo Hall concluding on August 13th.
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Originally Posted by Observer
Matching the suspension that he got from the Nevada State Athletic Commission, USADA announced on Wednesday that Brock Lesnar has been suspended for one year for his drug test failures surrounding UFC 200.
WWE wouldn't be able to use Lesnar in any state that covers wrestling in their athletic commission and follows the same Nevada/USADA rules.

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Originally Posted by PWI
This was tweeted out late last night indicating that MLW's Ric Flair Show podcast has ended. According to comments by co-host Conrad Thompson the WWE Hall of Famer has decided he doesn't want to do it anymore.

Thanks for subscribing and listening to the show but that's all folks!

Keep up with Ric at @RicFlairNatrBoy and Conrad at @HeyHeyItsConrad pic.twitter.com/GzS6lHbcCK
— RicFlairShow (@RicFlairShow) January 4, 2017
Second time his podcast show been cancelled within the past year.

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Originally Posted by PWI
It was announced today that Pop, the home of TNA Impact Wrestling in the United States, will be added to Hulu's new live streaming TV service, which will roll out later this year.

This will allow fans who wish to watch TNA to be able to do so even if they cut the cord from cable.
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Originally Posted by ProWrestlingSheet
Pro Wrestling Sheet has confirmed with authorities that Teddy Hart was arrested on New Years Day … and the report states he attempted to get away from officers during the encounter.

According to the Arlington Police Department in Texas, the Hart family member was stopped by police for a hazardous traffic violation on January 1st and attempted to evade a lawful arrest.

It’s unclear at this point how he attempted to get away.

The police report also says he was allegedly operating a vehicle without consent of the owner and was intoxicated, so they took him into custody.

He’s currently behind bars with bail set at $6,500.

Some other sheet news includes:
  • NJPW recently uploaded the Terminator bit from Kenny Oemga's entrance at lats night's Wrestle Kingdom 11 event. http://njpwworld.com/p/o_original_0068_10
  • In a "WWE Did You Know" type fact, today is the 18th anniversary of the infamous "Finger Poke of Doom" moment in WCW and Foley winning the WWF belt for the first time ever.
  • In another "WWE Did You Know" type fact, today is Jim Ross' 65th birthday.
  • Recent episode of Talk Is Jericho podcast show had Norman Smiley as the guest. http://www.podcastone.com/pg/jsp/pro...93&pid=1699235
  • Samckdown's ratings and viewership got delayed till tomorrow due to New Years weekend pushing reports back a day.

Big Vic 01-05-2017 08:51 AM
Smackdown rating in?

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Originally Posted by Observer
After beating Raw in the ratings last week, SmackDown fell back down to normal levels for the first episode of 2017.

Tuesday night's show on the USA Network averaged 2.596 million viewers, down nine percent from last week when John Cena's return and three title matches helped beat Raw for the first time since the brand split.

This was the lowest audience number for the show since December 13th, but it was still above the 2.492 million viewers the show has been averaging since moving to Tuesday night.
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Anthem Media has come to terms for Jeff Jarrett to return to TNA, PWInsider.com has confirmed. We are told that Jarrett will be at this week's TV tapings, as will his wife Karen Jarrett ...

The re-emergence of Jarrett was pointed to this morning as a sign that Carter was completely out in terms of decision-making as the pair had at times, split the loyalty within the company between their two sides and had a number of falling outs over the years, including a time period where Jarrett took time off from the company after it became public knowledge he was dating his now wife Karen (who had previously been married to Kurt Angle, at the time the top star in TNA). During that time away, Carter let go of Jarrett's entire support staff at the time, including Dutch Mantel, Savio Vega, Jim Cornette and Brian "Roaddogg" James.

"There is no way [Carter] would have allowed Jeff to return," said one source who spoke under condition of anonymity this morning. "This is proof that she is done."
According to PWI, Jarrett will also keep running GFW on the side since he is still working on getting a tv deal for the company.

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Originally Posted by Observer
Jeff & Karen Jarrett are in Orlando for the TNA tapings, as is Dutch Mantell. Also at the tapings include Brooke Tessmacher, Davey Richards, Angelina Love and Caleb Konley. Tonight's show will also, at least theoretically, promote a PPV show that takes place on Friday night.
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Originally Posted by Observer
We got some more news on the weekend incidents involving Alberto (Del Rio) Rodriguez and brother Guillermo in Austria. This is from an eye witness who was there for both skirmishes. The version verified the police statements about the incident printed in the new issue and that some of the tabloid coverage was exaggerated. Alberto & Guillermo were actually scheduled to leave and return home for an early morning flight, and be driven at about 2:30 a.m. to Vienna for their flight home after their match on Friday. Alberto then asked promoter Chris Raaber if they could stay an extra day and he'd use his miles to change the flights and so that happened.

There was a fight between Alberto and a 26-year-old Austrian and punches were thrown. Guillermo jumped in to help his brother. It wasn't a bad fight but Alberto did deliver some damage to the guy, and he was bruised up but not hurt badly. The police were called. At the police station, the two brothers started arguing in Spanish so nobody knew what they were saying or fighting over. The belief was Guillermo was just trying to calm Alberto down and Alberto was yelling at him. Alberto did break the zip-ties and they used ankle shackles, but the shackles were around Alberto's wrists, not his ankles.

There was a back of a chair broken off and some blood splattered on the wall from Alberto and Guillermo's fight. Guillermo was not knocked out as per media reports, but he did go to two different hospitals and took a train to the airport while Alberto had already left by cab.
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Originally Posted by Observer
Suzuki Gun and Dragon Lee appeared earlier today at New Year's Dash at Korakuen Hall. Key matches set up included Kazuchika Okada vs. Minoru Suzuki for the IWGP title, Toru Yano & Tomohiro Ishii vs. Lance Archer & Davey Boy Smith Jr. for the IWGP tag team titles, Tetsuya Naito vs. Michael Elgin for the IC title and Hiromu Takahashi vs. Dragon Lee for the jr. titles.
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Originally Posted by Observer
New Japan World picked up 5,500 new subscribers from the U.S. alone on Tuesday and Wednesday.
Overall gained around 10k more subscribers when including other regions.

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Originally Posted by Observer
As noted on the front page, Mark Andrews, whose TNA contract expired a few days ago, has signed with WWE and will be part of the U.K. championship tournament that takes place 1/14 and 1/15 in Blackpool, England.
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Originally Posted by PWI
The 1/4 episode of Total Divas, returning after a two week hiatus for the holidays, saw the WWE reality series on E! hit its highest mark of the season, bringing in 734,000 viewers frm the 705,000 viewers that watched on 12/21. This was actually the highest viewership for the series since March of last year.

It appears the move to 9 PM meant an additional 200,000 viewers to the series.
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Originally Posted by PWI
Maria Kanellis and Michael Bennett are set for this week's TV tapings. Their TNA deals expired at the end of the year. There was WWE interest in Maria dating back to last summer's Brand Split, so it should be interesting to see what their long term plans are.
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Originally Posted by PWI
Taz sent out the following to remind fans that "The Taz Show" will return from its holiday hiatus on CBS Radio tomorrow, and it certainly looks like he filmed it near WWE HQ, possibly hinting that he was there to do additional work with the company:

I spy....#TheTazShow #WeOver pic.twitter.com/5WHpLmNl1A
— TAZ (@OfficialTAZ) January 5, 2017

Perhaps he'll elaborate on this when he returns to the air tomorrow at www.TazShow.com.
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Originally Posted by Cagesideseats
Now that Anthem is purchasing a majority stake in TNA and will be running the show going forward, it’s time to lock up top talent within the promotion. That includes both Matt and Jeff Hardy, who have contracts that are coming up next month.

And WWE wants them both.

That’s according to the latest edition of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter (subscription required but recommended), who are reporting TNA has tried to sign them to exclusive contracts but it hasn’t happened just yet. With WWE interested, not to mention how much money they can make on the independent scene, especially with the Broken Matt Hardy gimmick working as well as it still does, there will be negotiations that could drag on while they try to get the best deal for themselves.

Some other sheet news includes:
  • Rock band Downstait recently tweeted a teaser of a new entrance them they are currently working on for Seth Rollins. https://twitter.com/DownstaitBand/st...54240824815621
  • For those who follow Observer's ratings system for matches, Omega vs Okada at Wrestle Kingdom 11 ended up getting the first ever official 6 star rating from Dave Meltzer. For some reference, Meltzer's ratings are only based on his gut reactions to a match and not actually based on a real system of sorts.
  • According to the Observer, ITV is happy with the numbers the debut episode of World of Sport generated. Makes it more likely ITV will approve a series to be made within the near future. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1ZbOQ7WEAAjU6J.jpg
  • Current rumors going around the net is Adam Cole, Kyle O'Rielly, and War Machine (Hanson and Raymond Rowe) are all leaving ROH for WWE with Cole expected to be arriving after May.

Volare 01-06-2017 01:17 AM
ADAM COLE BAY BAY!

Mr. Nerfect 01-06-2017 03:40 AM
Lol, 6 stars? That sounds a bit ridiculous. Would love to see Maria and Mike Bennett in the WWE. War Machine would be a good addition too. They're kind of like a more polished Authors of Pain at this point, aren't they?

Heisenberg 01-06-2017 12:11 PM
War Machine would wipe the floor with AoP, at least in the ring presence department. Those young big boys in Pain wonder down to the ring like they were just let out of a cage and don't know why they are in the building.

Simple Fan 01-06-2017 12:24 PM
Cole and War Machine will be great additions. Hate O'Reilly though, but they probably see him as a Daniel Bryan type or something. Really think k War Machine could go straight to the main roster but a run in NXT wouldn't be bad. Cole is obviously going to be the headliner of that group and I expect he'll be in the NXT title picture quickly.

Evil Vito 01-06-2017 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4910098)
Lol, 6 stars? That sounds a bit ridiculous.
I don't agree with Meltzer on every rating and I'd put this match on the same level of others rather than a league of its own, but it was an absolutely spectacular wrestling match. Even with a slowish start I was on the edge of my seat by the end of it.

Unfortunately the match has been talked up so much that I think people who've not had a chance to see it are going to go into it skeptical and automatically assuming it can't be as good as people are saying. Any match, movie, etc. if the baseline set for it before you've ever seen it is "definitely the best thing ever".

XL 01-06-2017 01:25 PM
What would WWE realistically do with the Hardys?

Simple Fan 01-06-2017 01:56 PM
Nothing even remotely close to as entertaining as they have been this past year with the Broken gimmick.

erickman 01-06-2017 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by XL (Post 4910202)
What would WWE realistically do with the Hardys?
I want to see Jeff hardy vs Shane in a sickest bump match at mania

mike adamle 01-06-2017 02:47 PM
Wouldn't mind seeing another Jeff Hardy run at the top. Hardy vs. Lesnar would be money.

Sixx 01-06-2017 02:53 PM
can't he fucking overdose already?

mike adamle 01-06-2017 02:57 PM
Lesnar vs Hardy in a drugs on a pole match could be good

Emperor Smeat 01-06-2017 03:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4910098)
Lol, 6 stars? That sounds a bit ridiculous. Would love to see Maria and Mike Bennett in the WWE. War Machine would be a good addition too. They're kind of like a more polished Authors of Pain at this point, aren't they?
Technically he's given it out on at least 2 other occasions but never as an official grade.

NeoGAF's wrestling board found the match he gave an unofficial 6 star rating while supposedly there is a women's match from Japan that got rated even higher unofficially from him (5++ stars).

Kawada vs. Misawa, 1997 AJPW Triple Crown Championship match - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1KqryNFCFg

Black Widow 01-06-2017 03:43 PM
His cancelled podcasts are gonna catch up to his divorces.

Mr. Nerfect 01-06-2017 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Simple Fan (Post 4910193)
Cole and War Machine will be great additions. Hate O'Reilly though, but they probably see him as a Daniel Bryan type or something. Really think k War Machine could go straight to the main roster but a run in NXT wouldn't be bad. Cole is obviously going to be the headliner of that group and I expect he'll be in the NXT title picture quickly.
I want Adam Cole to have The Fashion Police as his Panama City Patrol. I'm not big on O'Reilly either, but maybe he could add something to NXT? They've got so many "good indy guys" that I really don't think being a "good indy guy works anymore. I want War Machine to have a kick-ass entrance, walk in, not sell anything, beat up bitches, then have a ring girl hold up a card with their current undefeated streak.

Emperor Smeat 01-06-2017 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4910245)
Technically he's given it out on at least 2 other occasions but never as an official grade.

NeoGAF's wrestling board found the match he gave an unofficial 6 star rating while supposedly there is a women's match from Japan that got rated even higher unofficially from him (5++ stars).

Kawada vs. Misawa, 1997 AJPW Triple Crown Championship match - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1KqryNFCFg
Turns out a Flair vs Steamboat match and 2 more matches from Japan also got unofficial 6+ stars from Melzter as well. The women's match from Japan is still rated the highest in terms of unofficial stars at 8.

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Misawa vs. Kawada - 6/3/94 (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rUVA5qchql0)

Toyota vs. Inoue - 5/18/92 (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9dq3XhKnEoQ)

Tsuruta vs Tenryu - 6/5/89 (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3o2hqg)

Flair vs. Steamboat - 3/18/89 (https://vimeo.com/42884643)

Tsuruta & Tenryu vs. Choshu & Yatsu - 1/28/86 (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wfRpZ-tg61A)
https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCirc..._stars_by_won/

Mr. Nerfect 01-06-2017 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by XL (Post 4910202)
What would WWE realistically do with the Hardys?
Jeff Hardy has got a lot of value. If he was willing to go clean and give up the drugs for a bit of a sustained run in the WWE, I have no doubt he'd get a main event push. There's just no one that touches him in the charisma department. I could very easily see him winning a Royal Rumble and headlining WrestleMania.

Matt Hardy would be filler on his own. I think it would be better to bring back Jeff and leave Matt to do his shtick on the indies, but given how they are all about bulk, bulk, bulk and more is better, Matt would probably get signed if he wanted to and would probably make a pretty decent mid-card babyface for heels on the rise to kick the shit out of. They'd probably try to turn him heel out of jealousy for Jeff one more time and he'd get a failed run near the top because he actually can't talk well, and the sort of push Matt needs, contrary to Jeff, is one that requires him to be able to explain his motivations.

As a tag team they'd move a ton of merchandise and be an exciting act for a while. Kevin Owens & Chris Jericho vs. The Hardy Boyz would be a WrestleMania worthy match. They'd probably put out a DVD on their life and times. I do think that there is more money and fun in Jeff Hardy singles star, provided that he is in the frame of mind to be reliable -- but they are running out of part-timers to come and have short burst runs that get more over than the full-time stuff, so Jeff could be one of those.

Something more optimistic for Matt is that I could see him doing something more along the lines of his Broken Matt shtick in NXT, since it's the Hunter project and the WWE doesn't seem to mind it being a money pit in order to keep those Network subscribers high. Matt's a veteran talent who does have something to offer, and I could very easily see a serious Kassius Ohno vs. goofy Matt feud over the NXT Title. The NXT fanbase -- the hardcores -- would eat that shit right up.

Mr. Nerfect 01-06-2017 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4910349)
Turns out a Flair vs Steamboat match and 2 more matches from Japan also got unofficial 6+ stars from Melzter as well. The women's match from Japan is still rated the highest in terms of unofficial stars at 8.


https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCirc..._stars_by_won/
Meltzer really loved the Japanese stuff in the 90's, so I was aware that many of the matches got 5 stars and nothing American got it until Punk and Joe. But come on -- 8 stars? What the fuck is that?

Mr. Nerfect 01-06-2017 09:42 PM
Were Future Shock any good as a tag team?

Emperor Smeat 01-06-2017 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4910354)
Meltzer really loved the Japanese stuff in the 90's, so I was aware that many of the matches got 5 stars and nothing American got it until Punk and Joe. But come on -- 8 stars? What the fuck is that?
Yeah he's more of a fan of Puro and PWG/ROH style of US wrestling than the traditional or theatrical US style like WWE and WCW. Not a big of a fan of the Lucha and British styles as well for major wrestling types.

Its why whenever anyone asks him about his ratings, he usually says or implies to not take those ratings seriously. Also those ratings are always based on how he felt right after watching a match.

Emperor Smeat 01-06-2017 10:06 PM
Dirtsheets sponsored by Evil Emma feeding a bear:
http://i.imgur.com/Ly5GzKU.jpg

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On the subject of The Corporate Ministry, Prichard said that rumors claiming that 'The Million Dollar Man' Ted DiBiase and Jake 'The Snake' Roberts were originally meant to be The Higher Power are false. Rather, Christopher Daniels was Vince Russo's pick to be The Higher Power; however, McMahon nixed those plans because he thought Daniels was too small for the role.

"The original idea was 'The Fallen Angel' Christopher Daniels. And then Vince saw him and said, 'absolutely not'. [McMahon did not like Daniels'] size. [He] just didn't see it." Prichard continued, "Chris was working out in California and Chris was working indies and different things an I was a big fan of Chris Daniels too at the time. I liked the 'Fallen Angel' gimmick and I want to say we had Chris under a developmental deal for a little while. [He] just didn't see it. He just looked at him and he didn't see it. He was dead from the get-go."

Prichard suggested that Daniels' height was the primary problem, as being "juiced to the gills" as podcast co-host Conrad Thompson put it, would not have changed McMahon's opinion.

"Height, height, height, and again, first impressions of Vince looking at him. And I don't know where Vince saw him or what the presentation was at all, but all of a sudden, it was, 'nope, not him - don't have anything for him.'"
From the recent episode of Something To Wrestle With Bruce Prichard podcast show. More highlights from the episode: http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/...power-and-why/

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Originally Posted by Observer
Nothing new on Kenny Omega past that he isn't on the February New Japan tour.
Omega made several vague tweets implying he was considering leaving NJPW but turns out he just wanted to take a small break to rest. Also being reported his current contract ends later this month although no status on talks regarding a new deal.

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Originally Posted by Observer
After adding Mark Andrews to the field yesterday, WWE followed up by revealing the full list of competitors for the upcoming United Kingdom Championship tournament.

Another addition was made when WWE released the participants, with Martin Stone joining the 16-person field. Stone was formerly in WWE developmental earlier this decade and is returning after gaining more notoriety on the independent scene. He'll go by his old in-ring name with WWE listing him as Danny Burch.

Missing from those who originally appeared to be possible participants are Tiger Ali, Chris Tyler, Ringo Ryan, and Jack Starz. They are presumably alternates for the tournament.

The two shows will take place on January 14th and 15th at the Empress Ballroom in Blackpool with the first UK Champion being crowned at their conclusion. Nigel McGuinness and Michael Cole will call the action live on the WWE Network.

The full list of competitors for the tournament is:

Trent Seven
Danny Burch
H.C. Dyer
Pete Dunne
Wolfgang
Jordan Devlin
Sam Gradwell
Tyler Bate
James Drake
Tucker
Tyson T-Bone
Joseph Conners
Dan Moloney
Roy Johnson
Mark Andrews
Saxon Huxley
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Originally Posted by PWI
A fan on Twitter today asked former WWE Tough Enough competitor Gabi Castrovinci aka TNA Knockout Raquel if she was still TNA and she replied that she was done with the company:

No ???? https://t.co/fOULQ7AJJg
— Gabi Castrovinci (@RaquelTNA) January 7, 2017

Raquel had been managing Robbie E and Jesse Godderz.
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Originally Posted by PWI
The 1/5 edition of Impact, which was the first under the ownership of Anthem, did 290,000 viewers, up from last week's "Hardy New Year" edition. which did 224,000 viewers.
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Originally Posted by PWI
The Hamilton Spectator reported that musician B.A. Johnston is launching a petition to erect a statue in honor of late WWF performer "Iron" Mike Sharpe in his hometown of Hamilton, Ontario.

"I almost saw him as a symbol of the city itself — kind of like an avatar, or a walking Hamilton," Johnston told The Spectator. "It symbolized the dirty grittiness. His obliviousness to the fact that he was going to get pummeled was kind of Hamilton."

For more information and to sign the petition, click here.
Link to the petition: https://www.change.org/p/hamilton-ci...-sharpe-statue

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Originally Posted by PWI
With Chris Hero returning to WWE, his final independent appearances will be for EVOLVE over Royal Rumble weekend in San Antonio on 1/27 where Hero will pick his own opponent and 1/28, where he faces Zack Sabre Jr.

For those who have asked why Zack Sabre Jr. isn't in the WWE UK championship or the Cruiserweight division, it comes down to this - Sabre turned down WWE when they offered him a deal back during the CWC tournament
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Originally Posted by PWI
Here are some updates on Ring of Honor's contracts that expired as 2016 ended and 2017 began:

Christopher Daniels - Signed to new, longterm deal.

Bobby Fish - The two sides have signed an extension of Fish's previous contract and are currently working on a new longer form deal.

Frankie Kazarian - Was already locked into deal before end of 2016.

Jay Lethal - As previously noted, Lethal has been locked into a new, long term deal.

Kyle O'Reilly - His ROH deal expired on 12/31. O'Reilly is said to be reviewing his options (translation: WWE and potentially, a deal that could see him sign with Flosports and then be fielded out to wrestling companies on their streaming platform). His future is undetermined at this time. The two sides will continue to work on a per date agreement going forward until O'Reilly makes a decision.

Adam Page - A new deal is being finalized but has not yet been signed. Obviously already working for New Japan as well.

War Machine - We are told that a new deal is being finalized but has not yet been signed. There is also interest from New Japan in using them more in 2017.

BJ Whitmer - Signed to new deal before end of 2016; no definitive word on length. One source believed the contact to be one year in length.
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Originally Posted by Observer
"If WWE wants him, they will get him unless he doesn't want to work the schedule.

Ibushi didn't want to work the schedule. Sabre wasn't exactly given a monster money offer.

His value has never been higher. The only reason they don't get certain guys is the mentality that we're WWE and people will work twice as many dates for the same or less money because we're WWE, or they are guys really not making big money on the indies.

If they put $750,000 down per year on a three-year deal, I don't see them turning it down, and they could easily afford that nor would it be overpaying to do so. but for most guys, they can get them for a lot less.

I don't know Kenny but I do know WWE doesn't like anyone getting a buzz with another company."

In response to "Do you know what Omega's current contract status is?" he replied on Twitter "Not sure. His old deal expires January 31st."
From a recent Observer Radio show in regards to the potential WWE goes after Kenny Omega once his deal ends after this month.

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Originally Posted by Observer
Some key changes have been made to what was the WrestleMania show, although what those changes are isn’t confirmed. Three of the key bouts remain Brock Lesnar vs. Bill Goldberg, Seth Rollins vs. HHH and Big Show vs. Shaquille O’Neal. Aside from a Raw women’s title match, of which there are at least two different possibilities, everything else is up for grabs. The only other non-regular confirmed as wrestling on the show is Undertaker. We’re told the Mania card should be finalized internally in about two weeks, as the booking of that show will determine the booking and direction of the Royal Rumble, which takes place on 1/29 in San Antonio at the Alamodome.
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Originally Posted by Observer
At press time, John Gaburick still maintained his position as head of creative. We’re told Carter no longer has any decision making power with the company after Anthem Sports & Entertainment, the parent company of The Fight Network, officially announced the purchase of TNA Wrestling on 1/4, a deal that actually went down in October when Anthem saved the company from likely extinction by funding Bound for Glory and its final sets of television tapings. We’re told Carter no longer has any decision making power with the company.
Gaburick was the one who supposedly sabotaged Corgan's attempt to buy TNA and also responsible for starting talks with the WWE about a potential sale.

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Originally Posted by Observer
Lucha Underground is going on hiatus after the 1/11 episode. This is to stretch things out because of how long it will be before the next season is filmed (fall 2017). The ides is that next week’s show will be the mid-season finale with some of a big angle or cliffhanger. The rest of season three that was taped would start at some point but nobody has said exactly when.
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Originally Posted by Observer
Rossy Ogawa, who runs the Stardom women’s group in Japan, which is the top women’s company in that country, said that they are working on business dealings with ROH. ROH booker Hunter Johnston was at the Stardom show in Tokyo on 1/3. Stardom is the company with Io Shirai, Mayu Iwatani, Kairi Hojo and Yoko Bito. Shirai and Hojo are probably two of the three best women wrestlers in the world right now.
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Originally Posted by Observer
Verizon Fios will be dropping Pop TV as of 1/15, which takes TNA out of a lot of homes. However, Pop TV has made a deal where it will be live streamed as part of Hulu’s new live streaming TV service. Hulu announced that the CBS Network, as well as CBS Sports Network and Pop will all be part of the new service Hulu is looking at launching later this year.
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Originally Posted by Observer
Goldberg signed a three-PPV deal on his new contract, which will be Royal Rumble, Fast Lane (3/5 in Milwaukee) and WrestleMania. He will also be doing TV fairly often through Mania to promote all three of those shows.
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Originally Posted by Observer
Regarding the women’s tournament that at first was scheduled to start in January, because of the decision to do the U.K. thing coming up so quickly (even though the claim it was in the planning stages for a year, yet nobody heard anything until recent weeks while the women had been told months back about their tournament), the women’s tournament series network special is tentatively earmarked for a May start.

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Some other sheet news includes:
  • In a "WWE Did You Know" type fact, Chris Jericho has the potential this year to break the all-time WWE Rumble record for most combined time spent in the ring. Triple H currently holds the record with 3:59:37 while Jericho is second at 3:55:59.
  • In another "WWE Did You Know" type fact, WWE recently added a champions gallery for RAW's Women's championship and its exactly as you'd think it would be. http://www.wwe.com/gallery/raw-women...s#fid-40076927
  • In another "WWE Did You Know" type fact, Roman Reigns has wrestled 18 matches since the start of the brand split and only 4 matches didn't involve Kevin Owens and Jericho.
  • Based on recent rumors and reports, the current WWE Hall of Fame class so far is expected to be:
    SPOILER: show
    DDP and “Ravishing” Rick Rude
  • According to F4W, WWE is rumored to have changed plans regarding the main event for Mania after people in Creative watched Wrestle Kingdom 11 and want to have a main event equal or better than Omega-Okada now. https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCirc...e_members_saw/
  • Shelton Benjamin recently tweeted he is still months away from recovering from his current injury and debunked all rumors hinting he's returning at the Rumble. https://twitter.com/Sheltyb803/statu...78652370673668

slik 01-06-2017 10:13 PM
Isn't Lesnar's contract up at WM as well? Would be funny is both Goldberg and Lesnar wrestled one another and left the company again at a WrestleMania.

Mr. Nerfect 01-06-2017 10:19 PM
I'm still hoping for Adrian Neville vs. Kota Ibushi for the Cruiserweight Title at WrestleMania, dammit. Nothing else will touch it as far as quality and drama goes. Ibushi has, in a way, earmarked himself as the star of the division by not signing right away and teething issues are worked out. Neville works as the spoiler right now and again, it's a different gimmick from the NXT presentation that works main roster. Well, it might be a bit premature to call Neville's heel run a success right away.

But yeah, I'm all-in for Neville vs. Ibushi in a 6-star classic at WrestleMania. Let Ibushi work limited dates. Fuck it.

I've accepted Cena vs. Undertaker as the main event of WrestleMania, and I don't think any amount of Okada/Omega is going to change Vince's mind on that. I just hope my pipe-dream of AJ Styles losing the belt and calling out HBK comes to fruition.

slik 01-06-2017 10:21 PM
@Noid Cena/Taker isn't quite as set in stone as you would think...

Mr. Nerfect 01-06-2017 10:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sliksuke nakamura (Post 4910372)
Isn't Lesnar's contract up at WM as well? Would be funny is both Goldberg and Lesnar wrestled one another and left the company again at a WrestleMania.
I still cannot see them actually doing Brock vs. Goldberg. It's just...too much of a blown load. With Survivor Series they set up both Brock and Goldberg to have capital within the company. I think Taker's taking the Royal Rumble, but Goldberg still finds himself in the Universal Title match against Reigns. Brock throws a tantrum and crosses paths with Shane McMahon and they do that little ditty with Daniel Bryan training Shane up. You know, give Shane a but of a kayfabe boost.

Once Owens loses the Universal Title, I think the cracks between him and Jericho will continue. I don't really see how you create something with actual drama between the two, and I don't know who you turn, since both are such heels (with no real heat), but I don't think that stops the WWE. I'd rather see them as a proper team against The New Day or something, but whatever. It's possible that Sami Zayn ends up in the match as a Triple Threat? Can Owens & Jericho put their issues aside to stomp out Sami Zayn, or will they destroy each other allowing Zayn to jet to victory?

I think Brock will re-sign, but will get paid more money to do even less work.

Mr. Nerfect 01-06-2017 10:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sliksuke nakamura (Post 4910376)
@Noid Cena/Taker isn't quite as set in stone as you would think...
What do you know?

If they wanted to do the match they could have done it a lot earlier when it would have meant more. I personally don't think Taker really wants to do the match and would rather face someone else. You'd think if anyone has earned the right to choose his opponent, it'd be Taker.

Simple Fan 01-07-2017 01:07 AM
Styles vs Cena is the only way to go if they want something like WK.

SlickyTrickyDamon 01-07-2017 01:15 AM
Dirty grittiness and Iron Mike Sharpe does not compute. He was the cleanest wrestler ever with his OCD.. Once got locked into the Boston Garden and had to stay there overnight because they locked up the building while he was still showering.

slik 01-07-2017 02:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4910379)
What do you know?

If they wanted to do the match they could have done it a lot earlier when it would have meant more. I personally don't think Taker really wants to do the match and would rather face someone else. You'd think if anyone has earned the right to choose his opponent, it'd be Taker.
Dirt Sheets have also mentioned recently Vince has become very intrigued by the idea of Roman vs Undertaker because it "builds to the future" and he doesn't see Cena vs Taker in that same light. So there is a chance Vince is considering Roman to face Undertaker in his final match ever at WrestleMania.

Mr. Nerfect 01-07-2017 06:45 PM
Hmm. I think you can build Roman Reigns by having him squash Goldberg or something. I'd go balls-in with heel Reigns, but even as an ironic babyface that is really your heel, you don't need to go with Reigns/Taker.

By the way, when I said "What do you know?" I am meant it in a sly "tell me your secrets" sort of way, and not in a dismissive "Pfft, what do you know?" kind of way. I just realized how that could have been misconstrued.

Black Widow 01-07-2017 07:45 PM
Taker should beat anyone he faces.

slik 01-07-2017 10:58 PM
Roman squashing Goldberg in 5 minutes is how I would book that match as well. Gives Goldberg time to hit his signature moves, maybe they briefly brawl outside the ring, spot involving the barrier or table or something of the sort, Roman eventually gets the upper hand and BOOM match over. Vince finally accomplishes his dream of making Roman look strong since they've built up that Goldberg destroyed Lesnar with ease in short time. Also better for the fans because we aren't stuck with a 20 minute clunker. Each gets a big entrance, match is about 5 minutes, wham bam thank you mam' done.

Damian Rey 2.0 01-07-2017 11:17 PM
I actually like the idea of Reigns beating and retiring Taker. Reigns needs that signature win.

owenbrown 01-07-2017 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4910370)


[*]Based on recent rumors and reports, the current WWE Hall of Fame class so far is expected to be:
SPOILER: show
DDP and “Ravishing” Rick Rude
Excellent choices so far. Anything on who might be the headliner though?

Mr. Nerfect 01-08-2017 11:33 AM
Kurt Angle signing some sort of Legends deal to stop himself from wrestling -- or at least get his dates approved by the company -- and a spot in the video game and maybe a non-wrestling role he can occasionally fill (WWE Ambassador, etc.) seems logical at this point, provided Angle is willing to abide by the WWE's rules.

SlickyTrickyDamon 01-08-2017 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by owenbrown (Post 4910695)
Excellent choices so far. Anything on who might be the headliner though?
Do you smell it?

Mr. Nerfect 01-08-2017 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by sliksuke nakamura (Post 4910685)
Roman squashing Goldberg in 5 minutes is how I would book that match as well. Gives Goldberg time to hit his signature moves, maybe they briefly brawl outside the ring, spot involving the barrier or table or something of the sort, Roman eventually gets the upper hand and BOOM match over. Vince finally accomplishes his dream of making Roman look strong since they've built up that Goldberg destroyed Lesnar with ease in short time. Also better for the fans because we aren't stuck with a 20 minute clunker. Each gets a big entrance, match is about 5 minutes, wham bam thank you mam' done.
Completely agree with this. It's time to get unironic and less cute with the booking of Reigns. Just embrace that he's your top guy and stop winking at the audience by booking around it. They're never going to accept it with all the bells and whistles of him being screwed out by Money in the Bank briefcases and surprise Rumble shenanigans. If you want him to be your world-beater, have him be a world-beater.

Goldberg is popular enough that people will care that he loses. I think you can wring way more out of him, but there's "redemption" there for him. That's never been a particularly appealing part of the Goldberg persona (him being a sure thing was always his attraction), but this is 2017 and you've only got a handful of guys with that star potential. You can have Goldberg pin Sheamus or something at another PPV to get some energy back.

Another way to go about it is to have The Usos get involved by attacking Goldberg during the course of the match, they get the Goldberg specials to pop the crowd, but Goldie turns into a Spear from Reigns and gets pinned. It's a bit bullshitty, but if you want to go with Reigns as a heel and protect Goldberg, there are ways to do it. I can also see Reigns with a plate in his vest, so Goldberg knocks himself out on his own Spear. But it might just be better to have Reigns just kick Goldberg's ass.

Mr. Nerfect 01-08-2017 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4910801)
Do you smell it?
This is also highly likely.

XL 01-08-2017 01:03 PM
The Bloodline as an entitled yet brutal heel faction would be pretty great I think. Similarities to Legacy aside.

Mr. Nerfect 01-08-2017 01:10 PM
The Usos need something if they are going to be sticking around. I felt at the time that the heel turn was premature and should have been done more organically after a run as SmackDown Tag Champs. They've pretty much disappeared since their heel turn and being, like, fourth priority team. At least they're still higher than The Ascension and Vaudevillains.

XL 01-08-2017 01:17 PM
I think they want to make something of Alpha vs. Usos and know that in order to do that they have to keep one/both of those teams "on ice" until the time is right to pull the trigger on the feud. That might've changed with The Hype Bros being knocked out of contention.

Mr. Nerfect 01-08-2017 01:24 PM
I think that is ultimately the plan too, but I think by keeping one/both "on ice" it's just going to be cold. I didn't really think they should have gone with Slater & Rhyno as first champs at the time, and I still think they should have gone with The Usos as babyface champions until they dropped the belts to American Alpha and then turned heel. It's just preference, but I think it would make things feel more "heavyweight" between the two teams.

At this stage, I'm expecting American Alpha vs. The Usos vs. The Revival vs. a fourth team on the Kickoff show, and that is exactly where The Usos have been forever.

Damian Rey 2.0 01-08-2017 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by XL (Post 4910847)
I think they want to make something of Alpha vs. Usos and know that in order to do that they have to keep one/both of those teams "on ice" until the time is right to pull the trigger on the feud. That might've changed with The Hype Bros being knocked out of contention.
If they weren't so hell bent on having two sets of belts, they could've just had the tag division be brand exclusive so as to run multiple feuds and storylines.

SlickyTrickyDamon 01-08-2017 06:50 PM
Both brands have enough tag teams to make it work if they try. If they went the way of one set of belts it should be open to all brands with the traveling NWA champion motif.

SlickyTrickyDamon 01-08-2017 06:53 PM
Vaudevillian puppets is one of the best things going.

Cracked me up with Sasha's husband.

mike adamle 01-08-2017 06:56 PM
I do kind of wish they just kept one World Title and maybe upped the prestige of the IC & United States titles by making them the top titles of their respective brands. Roman Reigns holding the US Title might mean something then, probably not, but maybe.

I liked how they did it at the beginning of the first brand split when the undisputed champ would defend against Raw on a PPV then SmackDown! the next PPV.

Damian Rey 2.0 01-08-2017 07:13 PM
I guess they have enough teams. But do they have enough legitimate teams? New Day, Gallows and Anderson, American Alpha and the Usos are the only legit teams I can think of that didn't come after the brand split.

Orton and the Wyatts, Slater and Rhyno, Cesaro and Sheamus were all thrown together after the split, IIRC.

Hype Bros I guess you could count as a pre brand split team, but I was thinking of teams that have a shot at being the focus of the division.

If one division on one show was a thing, you'd have New Day on top, Alpha as the secondary face team, Gallows and Anderson as the top heel team, and even the Usos as the next heel team.

Then you add in the other guys who came together after the split and now you have this deep roster of tags to run stories with.

I think one world title, one tag title and one women's belt is best. Two mid card belts get elevated by getting put on guys who could main event but are pushed out because there's only one top spot.

World champ tours brand to brand depending on story and opponent.

Damian Rey 2.0 01-08-2017 07:21 PM
Have one ppv per brand every other month. Champ doesn't need to wrestle every month depending on the story.

Use the IC or US belt to main event the brand exclusive shows when the champ is feuding on the opposite show.

Emperor Smeat 01-08-2017 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by mike adamle (Post 4911025)
I do kind of wish they just kept one World Title and maybe upped the prestige of the IC & United States titles by making them the top titles of their respective brands. Roman Reigns holding the US Title might mean something then, probably not, but maybe.

I liked how they did it at the beginning of the first brand split when the undisputed champ would defend against Raw on a PPV then SmackDown! the next PPV.
Yeup, it would have made the IC and US belts a lot stronger and make appearances by the WWE champ feel more special whenever he appeared on a brand.

Vince and/or management not wanting their "flagship" show to be seen as weaker whenever the WWE champ wasn't around was the same reason why the original brand split also quickly had 2 main belts as well.

SlickyTrickyDamon 01-08-2017 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 (Post 4911036)
I guess they have enough teams. But do they have enough legitimate teams? New Day, Gallows and Anderson, American Alpha and the Usos are the only legit teams I can think of that didn't come after the brand split.

Orton and the Wyatts, Slater and Rhyno, Cesaro and Sheamus were all thrown together after the split, IIRC.

Hype Bros I guess you could count as a pre brand split team, but I was thinking of teams that have a shot at being the focus of the division.

If one division on one show was a thing, you'd have New Day on top, Alpha as the secondary face team, Gallows and Anderson as the top heel team, and even the Usos as the next heel team.

Then you add in the other guys who came together after the split and now you have this deep roster of tags to run stories with.

I think one world title, one tag title and one women's belt is best. Two mid card belts get elevated by getting put on guys who could main event but are pushed out because there's only one top spot.

World champ tours brand to brand depending on story and opponent.
I'd like somehow for a team unify the title using some sort of trickery with a newly formed Tag Team Money in the Bank.

If the tag team division competition dies down they can unify them.

The Revival for instance could win Money In the Bank and then win tag team titles on either brand. They would then come out on the other show to cash in and win.

One guy would carry the Red Belt around and the Other Would Carry the Blue.

Simple Fan 01-08-2017 08:14 PM
I do kind of like STDs tag unification idea. Agree with everyone else about only having one set of World, Tag, and Womens titles. Would make being g champion mean a lot more.

Damian Rey 2.0 01-08-2017 08:23 PM
Perfect time to bring back the championship scramble.

#1-norm-fan 01-08-2017 09:06 PM
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I do kind of like STDs tag unification idea. Agree with everyone else about only having one set of World, Tag, and Womens titles. Would make being g champion mean a lot more.
Multiple world titles was always a ridiculous idea. What's done is done now though. Unfortunately it's more ridiculous how much they've unified and created new titles constantly over the years and re-unifying them again would just make it more clear how unorganized and scatterbrained they are as a company.

SlickyTrickyDamon 01-08-2017 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Simple Fan (Post 4911078)
I do kind of like STDs tag unification idea. Agree with everyone else about only having one set of World, Tag, and Womens titles. Would make being g champion mean a lot more.
But it is Easy-Bake Booking to have more titles. When wrestling was its height in popularity they had European, Hardcore, Lightheavyweight, Contendership title shots passed around like it was a belt. Anything that could be defended was defended including jobs and ownership of the company itself.

Russo even booked a ladder match in TNA where the keys to Mick Foley's office were placed upon a pole.

Rebecca Reigns 01-08-2017 11:53 PM
The Roman Empire could defeat Goldberg, Undertaker, John Cena, Prince Albert, Mojo Rawley, Braun Strowman and Jushin Liger at the same time. Book it and find out.

#1-norm-fan 01-09-2017 12:03 AM
What about The Great Muta?

#1-norm-fan 01-09-2017 12:05 AM
Roman Reigns vs The Great Muta in the next "Best Wrestler" contest, please.

The CyNick 01-09-2017 11:37 AM
The one title thing doesn't work. Say there's one world champ going between shows, say it's Cena. He starts a program on RAW with say Kevin Owens. The finish wasn't decisive and Owens attacked Cena after the match. Instead of settling the score, Cena hops over to SDL to start a brand new program with Baron Corbin. In the meantime, Owens is waiting on RAW with a thumb up his ass. He's gotta do something for a month, so he gets into a program with someone else. Oh wait, now Cena is back, but that new program on hold, and remind the audience what happened six weeks ago. It just feel disjointed.

Plus from a house show booking and scheduling POV, it's very difficult to constantly changes guys schedules. It's much easier to just have each tour with their own set of championships.

The other benefit is it allows more guys to be elevated. Taking about the tag teams, on SDL, you get to see upwards of six teams getting TV time. On RAW its more like four. Still, combined, that's ten teams. If it's all one division, you won't see that many teams featured. Same with the girls. On SDL you go down to girls like Natty, Naomi, and Carmella. If Charlotte was going between shows, she would take up a segment every week, and you wouldn't see as many girls total.

The CyNick 01-09-2017 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4911087)
Multiple world titles was always a ridiculous idea. What's done is done now though. Unfortunately it's more ridiculous how much they've unified and created new titles constantly over the years and re-unifying them again would just make it more clear how unorganized and scatterbrained they are as a company.
Scatterbrained = highest revenue year ever.

I think they'll take that.

Mr. Nerfect 01-09-2017 01:47 PM
The brand split itself was an impulsive idea. They probably should have tried to make SmackDown good before they tried to make it "unique." There are real problems with having two World Titles. If the WWE want their fans to watch both RAW and SmackDown (which they clearly do), then having a "World Champion" and #1 Contender on each show means that at the very most you can say a guy is fighting for #3 position in the company as a certainty. Well, even that may be a stretch. The World Champion on SmackDown isn't necessarily better than a mid-carder on RAW.

You can create a Global Championship, Planetary Championship and Earth Championship while you are at it and call the guys who help it "World Champions" all you want. When you ask someone "Who is the best wrestler in the world?", a question that a World Heavyweight Championship is supposed to answer, you cannot answer it in WWE. By having two "World Champions" you literally have no World Champion.

I think there are similar problems with the Tag Team Championships and Women's Championships too. Who is the best women's wrestler in WWE -- Charlotte or Alexa Bliss? In fact, you can probably widen them up to the immediate challengers too. Who is the best women's wrestler in WWE -- Charlotte, Bayley, Sasha, Alexa, Becky or Nikki? See how it becomes really murky? When you put both Women's Championships on, say, a WrestleMania card, Joe Fan is going to watch and think "Hang on, why are there two Women's Championships?" The idea that the Women's Championship is the answer to a question is thrown out the window and as a result neither belt really matters as a tool to get someone over as anything resembling any sort of star.

If you want to go beyond the literal sense of what a World Champion is, and instead focus on who the biggest star and most credible wrestler in WWE -- the answer to "Who is the best wrestler in the world?" -- you have to go with either The Rock or Goldberg. John Cena, Brock Lesnar and The Undertaker are also in contention. The World Championship divisions aren't really the elite class of wrestler. Your real World Champion has an invisible belt that they can't exactly take off and hand to another wrestler. They're also part-time and, in at least one of those cases, not even signed to the company.

Having two separate "brands" isn't really an effective storytelling device for WWE at this point. It's exciting at first, because people associate it with change, movement, classification, and conflict. Is a guy going to be RAW or SmackDown? Who are their peers going to be and who are they going to be kept away from? It's build in a larger sense akin to what building to a match would be. But it doesn't actually create more opportunities for guys. Curt Hawkins and Jinder Mahal are just "there." Kevin Owens could have done his shit with Seth Rollins without a belt. Go back to SummerSlam -- the main event doesn't even have a belt involved (exactly what I mean about an invisible World Championship being there anyway). Nothing is really different except that SmackDown is now better than RAW because RAW is even more tedious than it was six months ago.

The CyNick 01-09-2017 02:45 PM
The Monday Night Wars was a fairly successful time in the history of the business, each group had their own set of champion. Football leagues is Europe are each wildly successful and have their own champions, while still participating in joint events. Nobody gets confused that say Man City is the champion of England while Barca is the champion of Spain. Those respective countries leagues still do pretty well I would say. I didn't hear a lot of complaints when Pride had world champions while UFC had their own. All these things do is create water cooler talk about who is better. The nature of WWE allows them to create this type of talk but then deliver on "dream matches" as they see fit.

I don't think having multiple world champions is an issue. To me if you have a brand split, each brand needs champions. The going back and forth just doesn't work from a storytelling point of view our a scheduling point of view. It's easy to say oh just have John work Friday to Monday one month, and then Saturday to Tuesday the next. But for those talents, and for the people who need to advertise them ahead of time, it's a nightmare. At best what they could do is say each champ is on a brand six months at a time. This would give them a chance to start and finish storylines, and scheduling would be easier. But that's a long time for one brand to go without a champion.

If anything, maybe they consider doing something at Mania where its champion vs champion for all the titles. The winner either gets an additional belt, or just some type of trophy. And it just becomes another accolade to brag about. But each respective title stays with their brand. That gives it a little more of a sports feel, where its like Mania is the Super Bowl where the NFC champ battles the AFC champ. Problem there is it hurts The Rumble, because if it's champ vs champ at Mania, how do you get the Rumble winner in the championship match? Maybe one solution would be to rotate SDL and RAW title has to be defended at the Rumble, like what Roman had to do.

KIRA 01-09-2017 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4911087)
Multiple world titles was always a ridiculous idea. What's done is done now though. Unfortunately it's more ridiculous how much they've unified and created new titles constantly over the years and re-unifying them again would just make it more clear how unorganized and scatterbrained they are as a company.
Get Cyinick to tell you how the unifying and splitting of the world title was a brilliant idea that created awareness and breathed new life into a product that was already damn near perfect.

wow l just saw his post after writing this and to think I was being sarcastic.

The CyNick 01-09-2017 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by KIRA (Post 4911314)
Get Cyinick to tell you how the unifying and splitting of the world title was a brilliant idea that created awareness and breathed new life into a product that was already damn near perfect.

wow l just saw his post after writing this and to think I was being sarcastic.
Nothing is ever perfect, but for me personally I find both shows more entertaining post brand split. The IC title means more. More tag teams are being featured every week. Virtually the entire SDL women's division is getting time whereas with one title, I would say only two of the girls would have regular TV time.

I will say the main event scene on SDL is a little short in terms of depth, but it's giving guys like Corbin the opportunity to step up. Even a guy like AJ is able to carry the brand, whereas with one title, I don't think his run would have big as long. And what's great, is as a fan, I'm getting more PPVs for the same price as pre split. It's hard to complain IMO.

#1-norm-fan 01-09-2017 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by KIRA (Post 4911314)
wow l just saw his post after writing this and to think I was being sarcastic.
You can never go too over the top when you parody a troll.

Mr. Nerfect 01-09-2017 04:25 PM
Always think of the worst thing, then take it one step further.

KIRA 01-09-2017 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4911322)
Nothing is ever perfect, but for me personally I find both shows more entertaining post brand split. The IC title means more. More tag teams are being featured every week. Virtually the entire SDL women's division is getting time whereas with one title, I would say only two of the girls would have regular TV time.

I will say the main event scene on SDL is a little short in terms of depth, but it's giving guys like Corbin the opportunity to step up. Even a guy like AJ is able to carry the brand, whereas with one title, I don't think his run would have big as long. And what's great, is as a fan, I'm getting more PPVs for the same price as pre split. It's hard to complain IMO.
The main thing I keyed in on is you saying you like RAW but law of averges says somebody had to like going to a wrestling show that opens with 20 mins of talking drags in the middle an then just kinda ends with no real reason given why you should tune in the next week.

The CyNick 01-09-2017 05:37 PM
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The main thing I keyed in on is you saying you like RAW but law of averges says somebody had to like going to a wrestling show that opens with 20 mins of talking drags in the middle an then just kinda ends with no real reason given why you should tune in the next week.
I would suggest you find something else to do with your life if you feel that way about the show. Seems odd to complain about a show week after week, only to continue watching and/or discuss it on a message board. But maybe you don't value time as much as I do.

KIRA 01-09-2017 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4911368)
I would suggest you find something else to do with your life if you feel that way about the show. Seems odd to complain about a show week after week, only to continue watching and/or discuss it on a message board. But maybe you don't value time as much as I do.
You ever seen MST3K you know how you probably wouldn't watch the terrible movies if they didn't come with snarky commentary? There you go.

There is the one off chance of Alicia wrestling thats really the only good thing I can say about RAW.

The CyNick 01-09-2017 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by KIRA (Post 4911410)
You ever seen MST3K you know how you probably wouldn't watch the terrible movies if they didn't come with snarky commentary? There you go.

There is the one off chance of Alicia wrestling thats really the only good thing I can say about RAW.
I have no idea what that is.

Lots to enjoy on RAW.

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Raw last night did 2.89 million viewers, a number that can't be considered bad going against the Alabama vs. Clemson college football championship game head-to-head ...

Raw only declined two percent from last week, likely due to the advertised appearances of Shawn Michaels and Undertaker. After both had appeared, there was a significant number of viewers who tuned out with a major third hour drop. Unlike usual, when the third hour drop is usually women viewers, last night it was males and in particular older males, which is probably directly attributable to the football game.

The good news is that Raw won't be against football until next fall, and WWE is coming up on its strongest part of the year. So starting next week, there should be a significant increase in male viewers in particular ...

The three hours were:

8 p.m. 3.01 million viewers
9 p.m. 3.02 million viewers
10 p.m. 2.69 million viewers
Small drop compared to last week but 3rd hour was among the worst ever for the 3 Hour Era. In terms of comparisons, same show last year had around 500k more viewers.

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The Undertaker became the 10th official entrant in the Royal Rumble match last night. Seth Rollins was also added to the match earlier in the day.
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WWE held a press conference in New Orleans today to promote that WrestleMania 34 will be taking place in the city in 2018. WWE uploaded a playlist of videos from the event.
Link to the playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7gN...KOTR0LbY04s_bp

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Vince McMahon was on crutched at the Wrestlemania Press Conference today in New Orleans. We are told that he underwent a surgical procedure recently and is still recovering
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Brock Lesnar will return to WWE TV in person on next week's Raw. Lesnar also appeared at yesterday's Winnipeg Jets hockey game.
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The former Big Damo's NXT name is now Killian Dain.
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PWG announced that their next show will take place on February 18th. Jay White will make his PWG debut against Marty Scurll, while Lio Rush faces Ricochet in his first match for the promotion. Also scheduled for the show: Zack Sabre Jr. puts his PWG title on the line against Chuck Taylor, Cody Rhodes returns against Trevor Lee, Jake Crist, Dave Crist & Sami Callihan take on The Young Bucks & Adam Cole, Jeff Cobb & Matt Riddle team against Michael Elgin & Brian Cage, and Rey Fenix faces Trent Barreta.
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AXS TV released another promo video for the Kazuchika Okada vs. Kenny Omega match from the Tokyo Dome that will air this Friday night. Jim Ross and Josh Barnett did the voice overs for the match today.
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Kenny Omega would've been the talk of the pro wrestling world after his instant classic against Kazuchika Okada at the Tokyo Dome regardless of what he did going forward ...

Omega further elaborated on his future in interviews with Sports Illustrated's Justin Barrasso and Tokyo Sports (thanks to a translation from Chris Charlton). In the SI interview, Omega addressed what's next for him in wrestling.

“I’m leaving to consider my future options,” Omega said. “Returning so quickly after a huge loss would be unwise. I’m finding my next plan of attack in wrestling rather than blindly rushing forward just to be in a ring.”

Omega also seemed to share a mutual admiration with Cena.

“John Cena is one of the great WWE talents that I respect most,” said Omega. “If I were to end up there, working with someone of his caliber would certainly be a goal and jive with my mission of changing wrestling. I’m glad to be on his radar, but I haven’t made any decisions regarding my future yet.”

While closing the interview, Omega claimed that he hasn't yet signed a new contract with any promotion.

“I fear that everyone has taken my words too literally," Omega said. "Yes, I’m out of the country and off of shows, but I haven’t signed any new contracts yet. After such a huge loss, I didn’t want to just hang around and take part in meaningless matches. I’m only interested in changing the business, so I’m thinking carefully about what’s next.”

No matter what's to come for Omega, all of his comments have seemed to be layered in kayfabe. That was true for the Tokyo Sports interview as well, where Omega noted that he has to rethink things after his Dome loss and said that he would be taking time off from NJPW.
Omega's current contract with NJPW ends at the end of this month.

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The WWE officially announced the Mercedes-Benz Superdome as the host for the 2018 WrestleMania, which takes place on April 8th, 2018, to avoid Easter which is the previous Sunday, when the show would normally take place.

New Orleans got the news only a few weeks ago. City officials went to the WWE in early 2016 with a presentation, which included a taped video using Drew Brees to try and convince WWE officials to give them the bid.

New Orleans city officials pushed that WrestleMania would be promoted by the city as part of its tricentennial year celebration. New Orleans was open to future years, since it just housed the event in 2014, but really pushed the celebration year angle to WWE officials.

The decision was made only a few weeks ago, rather than months ahead of the public announcement, which is why it only recently leaked out.
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Enzo Amore suffered a legit knee injury on 12/30 in Los Angeles. He was on the road this weekend in Cass' corner but was limping pretty heavily. No timetable for a return past he will be reevaluated in two weeks.
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WWE’s Michelle Wilson said that the WWE Network offering downloadable content and offline viewing is “definitely on the roadmap.”
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NJPW owner Takaaki Kidani explained why the company is running two G1 specials in California in July: "The reason why we decided to go to US is what WWE did to us one years ago. I'm really frustrated. That's the reason." Kidani is referring to WWE signing AJ Styles, Shinsuke Nakamura, Karl Anderson, and Luke Gallows after last year’s Tokyo Dome show.
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Rey Mysterio will appear for What Culture Pro Wrestling in Newcastle on April 29th.
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Former ROH champion Kyle O'Reilly has been pulled from the lineup for this weekend's ROH TV Taping in Atlanta, GA at The Centerstage Theater. O'Reilly has been replaced in the announced main event by his ReDragon partner, Bobby Fish.

Fish will team with Jay Lethal against Cody Rhodes and ROH champion Adam Cole. As we noted several days ago, Fish signed a short-term extension with the company as they work on a longer form contract.

O'Reilly's ROH contract expired on 12/31/16 and we are told that he is taking time off to evaluate his future options.
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World Wrestling Entertainment has hired Vic Travagliante, the voice of House of Hardcore, to be the latest member of their announcing team, PWInsider.com has learned. His will be rechristened Vic Joseph.
According to PWI, he's currently planned to join the NXT commentary crew.

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Deadline.com reported today that Universal Pictures have acquired the feature film comedy "The Pact" which will Star John Cena. The film is planned for a 4/28/18 release theatrically, just a few weeks after Wrestlemania 34 in New Orleans.
Pretty much adds another break planned for Cena to join his pile for 2017.

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A one-day exhibition of the XFL Hall of Fame, celebrating the lone season of the winter football league owned and operated by WWE will take place this Saturday 1/14 in New York City at the Helen Mills Event Space and Theater in Chelsea, featuring memorabilia and mementos from the league as well as special appearances from former XFL players. The HOF will be free to visit.

The Hall of Fame is designed to help promote the ESPN 30 For 30 documentary "This Was The XFL", which will debut on 2/2 over Super Bowl weekend and is said to feature the revelation that Vince McMahon has had early discussions with Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones about the idea of creating a new "minor league" football league.

Some other sheet news includes:

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Current rumored 2017 Hall of Fame class according to PWI and the Observer:
DDP
Ravishing Rick Rude
William Regal
Christian
The Natural Disasters
IRS

Other names are also being considering with Observer speculating Taker might be one and would be the headliner

Spoiler tags used since its related to the rumored list of WWE Hall of Famers for this year's class.

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The ratings “war” between Raw and Smackdown lasted a whole week, as Smackdown failed to gain traction after scoring the 2.02 rating two weeks ago for John Cena’s return. It dropped to 1.78 last week and ticked up to a 1.79 this week, well below Raw’s 2.03 rating. Viewership was 2.533 million viewers. A year ago Smackdown drew a 1.68 rating, so Smackdown being live on Tuesdays with its own distinct roster has led to an increase in rating consistently over year-ago numbers.
Obama's Farewell Address ended up hurting Smackdown more than the NCAA football title game did for RAW. Only real bright spot is the Live Era is paying off for Smackdown since this week was higher compared to the same week last year.

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Mark Hunt today filed a lawsuit in Nevada District Court against the UFC, Brock Lesnar, and Dana White.

ESPN's Brett Okamoto reported the story earlier tonight. It's a landmark case because Hunt is claiming that the defendants "affirmatively circumvented and obstructed fair competition for their own benefit."

Hunt had been threatening legal action, feeling that his career has been harmed by facing people who have cheated. Hunt was upset because he felt Lesnar was not punished enough for a failed drug test before their fight took place, and that he went into the cage without knowledge that Lesnar had already failed a test, as the result of a June 28th test didn't come back until after the July 9th fight.

The tough aspect of this case is that Lesnar failed for Hydroxy Clomiphene, and not for steroids or another PED. So while there are two failed tests, on June 28th and July 9th, there is no evidence that specifically ties Lesnar to PED usage for the Hunt fight.
According to PWI, UFC is getting sued for being purposely aware Hunt's recent oppoents were cheating, put his welfare and rep at risk by not finding him clean opponents, and purposely underpaying him both for fight purses and post-fight compensation. Lesnar is getting sued mainly for cheating his way to a huge paycheck at Hunt's expense.

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The BMO Harris Bradley Center announced the following for the 2017 WWE Fast Lane PPV:

See @Goldberg and your favorite superstars in Milwaukee at @WWE #Fastlane on March 5! #WWE #Goldberg #WWEMKE pic.twitter.com/GDQrCFpFCb
— BMOHarrisBradleyCntr (@BMOHBC) January 11, 2017

So, that's another PPV Goldberg is confirmed for.
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There are now 13 entrants announced for the Royal Rumble match after the additions of Dean Ambrose, The Miz, and Dolph Ziggler last night.
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Originally Posted by Observer
Timothy Smith, who wrestled as Rex King and Timothy Well of the tag team Well Dunn in WWF, passed away on Monday at 55 years old. Chris Jericho donated the entire initial goal of $2,500 to a GoFundMe that had been set up by his family.
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Originally Posted by Observer
John Cena again seemed to reference Kenny Omega on Instagram today. Cena first posted a picture of an O and then posted another one of Mega Man.
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Originally Posted by Observer
WWE posted full video of the United Kingdom Championship tournament preview show that aired after Raw on Monday night.
Link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WbirNi9y4M

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Originally Posted by Observer
Jim Ross tweeted that he's finished voicing over six episodes of NJPW on AXS with Josh Barnett. Wrestle Kingdom 11 will begin airing this Friday on AXS with the Kazuchika Okada vs. Kenny Omega main event.
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An interesting note from the New Beginning cards that were released by NJPW yesterday is that Katsuyori Shibata will defend his Revolution Pro Wrestling British Heavyweight Championship (as long as he's still champion or else it will be a special singles match) against Will Ospreay in Osaka on February 11th. Shibata will defend the title against Matt Riddle at RevPro's show at York Hall in London on January 21st.
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Originally Posted by PWI
TNA will have another round of Impact tapings tonight at Universal Studios in Orlando, Florida. They close out their tapings tomorrow.

Based on what they have taped thus far, it would appear they will have nine episodes done as opposed to the originally planned 12. They return to Universal from 3/2-3/9.
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Fomer ROH champion Kyle O'Reilly has been removed from the Ring of Honor roster on the ROH website, which certainly sends tells the tale as to whether the company expects him back anytime soon.

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Some other sheet news includes:
  • For those interested, PWI is currently offering a free 3 day trial of their Elite subscription service.
  • Rolling Stones had a recent article about Baron Corbin and their feeling of him becoming a huge star in the WWE very soon. http://www.rollingstone.com/sports/b...-thing-w460546
  • In a "WWE Did You Know" type fact, Alexa Bliss' current Smackdown Women's reign has lasted longer than all of Sasha Banks' combined RAW Women's reigns. Bliss has held the belt for 37 days while Sasha's combined total is just 28 days (3 reigns).
  • In another "WWE Did You Know" type fact, Cena is actually one reign away from tying two of Ric Flair's all-time championship records. One involves World-tier belts and the other involves the US title (Cena has 5, Flair has 6 for the record).
  • In a third "WWE Did You Know" type fact, today is the 18th anniversary of the Corporate Rumble which was won by Chyna and later allowed her to become the first women ever to wrestle in the Royal Rumble match.

XL 01-12-2017 03:13 AM
Where does that erroneous 's' come from when they report about Rolling Stone magazine? Every time they refer to it as Rolling Stones.

SlickyTrickyDamon 01-12-2017 03:17 AM
From the band.

SlickyTrickyDamon 01-12-2017 03:19 AM
Alicia Fauuuuuuuuuuuuuux is amazing lol

Mercenary 01-12-2017 03:47 AM
Good god Alica that was some really really bad acting

XL 01-12-2017 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4912819)
From the band.
But it's incorrect. Mick Jagger is not writing articles about wrestling.

#BROKEN Hasney 01-12-2017 07:24 AM
The Observer is all but confirming that Hogan is coming back.

On what I'm sure is a TOTALLY UNRELATED NOTE, Vince tweeted this yesterday:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My hero. <a href="https://t.co/0oTT6DVcQG">pic.twitter.com/0oTT6DVcQG</a></p>&mdash; Vince McMahon (@VinceMcMahon) <a href="https://twitter.com/VinceMcMahon/status/819290460053241856">January 11, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Good job The New Day look to be recruiting.

Mr. Nerfect 01-12-2017 08:55 PM
Look for American Alpha to be rebranded "Real American Alpha" and wear red and yellow from now on. You heard it here first.


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