It's a suprise how he hasn't been involved in any of the friendly matches for England. He deserves a chance.

Yeah I totally agree he's been great this season. Very fast, loads of energy, tracks back well and got great skilll. Certainly not a starter for England but to not get a call up is wrong I think.

9/10s of Manchester will be happy tonight. :D

Spurs are about to beat Newcastle 1-0, O'Brien OG

Yeah, to be fair, I don't think there was much O'Brian could have done about it, it was one of those awkward ones where if he left it, an attacker would have knocked it in, so he had to do something, but hitting it to the bottom left, what a finish.

:eek:

OMG HEEL RBF~!!!!11!!!

The title race was over the second Van Nistelrooy smasehed that penalty against the bar about 5 months ago

Newcastle are crap :(.

How we didn't get a penalty too :mad: We should beat Spurs anyway though :n:

Andy O'Brian you nob

Liverpool should sell Michael Owen, while we can get some money for him. Did you see the misses!
Houllier needs to go, we need something fresh in the club.
We're lucky that Blues and Newcastle lost.

That and the one against Pompey were terrible. He's got no confidence.

Yeah, it's not good for England with the Euro Championships coming up.
We need Owen on form for club and country, I thought after that goal in the UEFA Cup that he'd be back to form but he isn't.
Did you see that open goal he missed.

Yeah,Owen was quite poor today.I'd leave him out and maybe help him get confidence in reserves next week,if he does well then start but if not leave him on the bench.

Biscan is a dick though.

If United had of won then that would've been the perfect weekend for me.

About the relegation though,i'd like to see Pompey and Wolves stay up,obviously aswell as Leicester because it'd be good to see all promoted sides stay up.

Mainly Wolves out of the two to sort of disobey(couldn't think of a better phrase :() the rule about bottom at Christmas goes down.Also for the Midlands,with West Brom coming up seemingly then it will be good for the area.

F</>ucking idiot commentator in Five Live kept calling Wolves - Villa an "East Midlands derby"

:| WTF no you idiot

Yeah on the first day of the season Cudicini saved Owens penalty. But it had to be retaken and he scored it that time. :mad:

LOL owen actually scored a penalty at some point :lol:

What i still can't get over is that sitter he missed against Australia last year, tho :|

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I dunno just a random point.:-\

Dazz is a spammer.:mad:

Anyway,Dickov,Gillespie and Sinclair will play for our reserve team tomorrow.Micky said they could get a chance against Everton which is completely different from what he said straight after the Birmingham win.I don't think any of them should start though.

Slow down the posting, I don't want to lose all those :'(

This thread has meaning though.

Or at least thats what we'll say.:shifty:

:cool:, I saw the rankings about a week ago, but I didn't want to bring it to anntention. Still, to make this post not completely pointless...

Who is your tip for the drop?
My money is on Leeds, Wolves and Leicester.

But, Pompey need to learn how to win away.

They are just posting twice as much as the rest of us because we don't listen to them the first time :p

:'(

And I asked a question, so this is the second time of posting that question, therefor I want a response...

Who is going down this season?

Leeds and Wolves for sure. I think there is a chance both Leicester and Pompey can both get out.

Yeah I think it's out of Pompey and And Leicester to stay up.

I think either Wolves or Leicester will stay up.
Portsmouth will go down for the soul reason that Berger is injured. he has been by far been their lynchpin this season.
Leeds have the players to do it but i think they're too demoralised to get out of the bottom three.

Rob I am astonished by your lack of faith.

I disown you, sir.

Was he a southerner, if he is then it makes sense.

No idea, couldn't tell by his accent.

You'd think they'd do some research beforehand though :|

I think Pompey will go down, Leicester have an in-form striker to get them goals. They seem to have more fighting spirit too.

Exactly, I never knew that if I caught the 51 it took me to the East Mids. :nono:

Sunderland tonight :cool:

:love:

I think we'll be ok if we beat Everton on saturday,not literally safe but if we can get a few home wins then we should be ok,i would have said only Liverpool would be the only side to definetly beat us at home but now i'm not sure. :o

Quinton Fortune could be out for up to a year after undergoing knee surgery caused by a training ground accident

Yeah i saw that about old Quinton.It's a tough break for him seeing as he was just about establishing himself as a regular first team left back.

On the relegation i think Wolves have to hope that not many teams around them pick up points by the end of the month,i can't see them getting anything from Liverpool or Chelsea.

Oh will you shut up :mad: :'(

We've got 5 home games left, we're capable of winning all of them (then again we were capable of beating Villa until 2 days ago :| ) - away games are a different story though, 3 of the 5 we have left are against Liverpool, Chelsea and Newcastle. If we don't get anything from the other two I think we're screwed.

Yeah what RBF said - Pompey Wolves Leeds.

Dock Leicester points :'(

Leeds better stay up :mad:

I've got 10 bucks on both leeds and wolves beating relegation.

Manchester City, Blackburn, anyone?

ANYONE? :'(

Your tenners a goner. :wavesad:

:'(:wavesad::'(

The Hillsborough anniversary must be coming up soon.

What date is it?

If we don't win tonight then I think Houllier has to think about going, losing three times to a team in the relegation zone is not good.

If I remember correctly its April 20th but I could be very wrong

Also, Liverpool are the suckiest bunch of sucks who ever sucked right now

I saw the game on the tv in the US, and my word, Michael Owen is shi</>te, now does everyone believe me?

Houllier wont go because he's a stubborn bastard who doesn't know whats good for him or the club, everyone was saying the pressure was off after we beat Levski, but that just masked the fact that we were still drawing games we should have won, and losing games we should have at least drawn, its gotten to a very depressing point, and Liverpool are merely a shell of what they were, 8th in the Premiership? Thats a fuc</>king joke.

Sorry, twas 15th

If we win tonight we go fourth but IF we win.

No way will Liverpool win the UEFA Cup. No way.

If they finish 4th I'll be shocked. At this point I'd back Charlton because Liverpool and Newcastle are being way too inconsistent.

Surely that combined with the virtual season-long pressure from the supporters will be enough to cause Houllier to either go or be sacked.

If I was him I would go now instead of being sacked and still haev some dignity.

Stop saying that.:foc:

I don't mean to be insulting but Wolves and Pompey shouldn't mind if they go down as much as Leicester fans for example.This being because this is both of their teams first premiership season and if i was a fan of either of those teams then just being in the premiership would be great,quite a lot of sides have came up before being relegated and then promoted again to do even better,for example Charlton,Bolton,Sunderland(before last year) and Leicester.

It would really be a backward step for Leicester to go back down,but then again O'Neill's success here may have set the expectation level too high. :-\

Exactly, I'd rather resign than be sacked

Also the Rio Ferdinand appeal is tomorrow,hopefully the F.A see sense and reduce the ban.

I'm not saying that because i want him at Euro 2004 as John Terry is a more than able replacement,just that if Titov gets 1 year for failing and Ferdinand 8 months yet he hasn't proved to have failed the test,it seems wrong.

Its besides the point, if we win we go 4th, great, but how long will we stay there for? Why the hell are we 8th anyway? Now, Newcastle I can take being ahead of us, but Villa, Charlton and Birmingham? That's complete bollocks in my opinion (also having just checked we can only go 5th and to do that we have to win by 2 clear goals) things have gotta be changed

Also, what does everyone think about this Hitzfeld to Chelsea stuff, if its true then, Abramovich or Kenyon, whichever one is calling the shots, is an asshole.

I feel sorry for Ranieri. I know what you mean about Liverpool, it is bollocks, two seasons ago we were second and now this.

Bollocks to that, look at what Birmingham have done. We should expect to stay up otherwise what's the point of being promoted?

It wouldn't totally surprise me but afaik Hitzfeld has said before he won't leave Bayern *shrug*

I don't really think he's that great of a coach anyway.

Ok maybe expecting is too strong a word but if we just come up and don't even give ourselves a chance with 10 games left what's the point? And like I said, look at what Birmingham have done, at one point last season it looked like they would be relegated, now they're pushing for Europe.

I just think its shi</>te that they've just said "Fu</>ck You" to Ranieri

Also, I hope Ferdinand's appeal keeps the verdict as it is. It would be harsh to increase the punishment as a retalitation to an appeal, but a reduction would show weakness in the FA and a weak stance on drugs, whether you've failed a test or refused to take one, its besides the point.

Yeah I really like Ranieri - he's a great bloke and has been put under fantastic pressure in extraordinary circumstances. I'm hoping he gets at least one more season to prove himself but I fear not.

Also the FA shouldn't even think of lowering Ferdinand's ban. I've said this loads of times but i'll just say it once more - a missed test is a failed test.

I and the majority of Chelsea fans (far as I can tell) would agree with you.

They should sack Houllier before the games started, he's starting Biscan instead of Henchoz.

I know this is the Premiership thread but Coventry are 3 up against Preston within 11 minutes.
Lol.

1-0 Didi Hamman :)

I wish I had Sky.
2 - 0.

This is more like Owen
3-0

About bloody time, shame it masks the fact that Houllier is sh</>ite

Exactly, no one in a sane state of mind would start the game with Biscan.

That's really shit that they're gonna go headhunting after one season under Abramovich. I know the pressure from the fans is huge, considering they basically tried to buy the title. But look at Arsenal, over the last 3-4 years, they've tinkered with the squad here, made a purchase there, and now seem unstoppable. It takes time.

Besides, where did Chelsea finish last year? 4th.

Where will they finish this year? 2nd.

How far have they gone in the Champions League this season? At least to the QF stage

How far did they go last year? What's that? They weren't even there?

Chelsea were out of the CL for how many years? 3-4? They've come straight back in and found the formula for winning on the continent, pretty much instantly. Arsene Wenger has taken at least 3-4 years to get it right for Arsenal.

They should take a long hard look at themselves if they're seriously contemplating sacking Ranieri.

Kind I just say, its good that Owen proved me wrong, but to me the real test is doing it again regularly

OMG yes - Biscan is terrible. The other people on my floor at Uni tear their hair out whenever he plays.

Having seen the teamsheet I was actually happy that they played Carragher at Right Back, and Riise at Left, ok, Biscan is sh</>ite, but if he has to play I would rather it was at centre back, than right back

Yeah but what the hell is with shifting Henchoz to make way for Biscan?!?!

Henchoz Hyypia were class a few seasons ago. Biscan has sucked dick the entire time. I agree though that Caragher is better at right back and I've always been a Riise fan. Great going forward and just as good defensively as Traore (who is also shit). Sure his defensive play sucks sometimes but its passable.

Riise - Hyypia - Henchoz - Carragher.

Thats what I would go for anyway.

Which is the same 4 every Liverpool fan would go for

Ha...maybe Houllier doesn't like liverpool :(.

I don't care which of those two dickheads, Kenyon and Abramovich, approached Hitzfield, they are boith trying to **** up the club.

I don't agree with alot of Ranieri's tactics, or signings, but I think that the best thing to do is to back him, and then see what transfers he makes in the summer, see where we are at Christmas time, and then make a decision.

If worst comes to worst we will come 3rd in the league, and quarter finals of the Champions League, I would have no problem with that. If we manage to come 4th in the league, then I still think Ranieri should be backed until Christmas.

But Kenyon and Abramovich are both dodgy cunts, and neither give a fu</>ck about the rules for transfers, talking to players, or even the current set of staff.

Batesy and Hutchinson was a MUCH better partnership, the only thing Hutchinson ever did wrong was made a shit transfer behind Vialli's back. I have said this before, and I will say it again, the only advantage to Batesy not being there, is that Hoddle or Guillit MAY come back, but I doubt Kenyon and Abramovich want them.

You're forgeting Steve Finnan. He would be first choice in my Liverpool defence anyday.

He's done fu</>ck all for us, and always looks a liability

Hamann's goal was pretty good.

Owen needs to be more consistent scoring,like Sid said,atm he misses too many chances imo.

On a side note Real Madrid lost in the Spanish Cup final 3-2 to Zaragoza a.e.t,great match though.

I know what you mean but i'm not saying you should give up trying or anything(though that would help :shifty: ).

Sad thing is imo is that any team who goes down this year will be better than any current division 1 side looking to go up,unless those who do buy well in the summer.

Appears as if Frank Sinclair is been booted out of leicester at the end of his contract

Is he not allowed to reurn to the city to visit friends?

He has no friends

Unless I'm very much mistaken Leicester Wolves *and* Pompey all have a lot of players who's contracts expire at the end of this season...whoever goes down is going to have a lot of rebuilding to do regardless.

Ferdinand's ban got upheld :y:

I'm glad that was the outcome, if it had gone either way it would have been either be a little harsh or would make a mockery of the drugs testing precedures, well done to the FA for standing firm.

He should have got the ban cut. 8 months for missing a test is absurd. Guys who are failing tests are getting shorter bans.

I thought they would let him come back for the last two weeks of the season and then have him ready for Euro 2004 since that's when it would actually benefit them.

Its not about what would benefit the FA, its about laying down the law, a missed test is a failed test, thats is how these things work.

Ok so how did that Man City player not get the same ban Rio did?

Why do players who fail tests get shorter bans?