that sucks

Matt Hughes was offered a fight with Jon Fitch on the show. No decisions are gonna be made on replacement fighters or the title situation until after the weekend.

that would be an ok fight

That would be a fantastic fight and Fitch would win, but i really would love to see GSP say fuck it and ask for the fight. Just to see the 3 and final fight between those two.

GSP should not take the fight on 6 weeks notice.

Yeah, too big of a match for GSP right now to take on that little notice.

Wow, lol. So now Serra will hold the record for longest welterweight champ and not even defending it...well i'm joking but still. That's what they get for holding him out for so long ..hopefully they find a suitable replacment.

And remember it was UFC who booked it for December. They could have did this 4 months earlier easy.

I think if they're gonna create an 'interim' Lightweight title, they should do the same here. Have Hughes vs. Fitch for the Interim Welterweight Title and then defend it against Serra promptly upon his return.

sherdog said that GSP took the match. This sucks because I love GSP but I want hughes to fight serra.

Hughes/GSP should take place in Canada. There would be an insane amout of heat for it.

I really wanted too see Hughes/Serra to.

It will still happen. It's a money fight.
GSP has balls though. I predict same result as last time though.

I think GSP will take him. I hope so at least. Although I still really want to see Serra vs Hughes, there is no telling if that will happen for a long time now.

It's gotta happen once Serra gets back. Either he fights Hughes first or fights GSP then Hughes whether it's a title fight or not. HAS to happen. To be fair, Dana always puts on the big fights.

Wow..and it's gonna go 5 rounds too :drool:. More time for GSP to kick his ass ..god I hope he does.

Interim Title match as well. Good. Serra vs. either will be a good match on down the line also.

GSP better get on him and knock him out like before because guys who take short notice fights dont do to well when it gets into the fourth and fifth rounds

Yea I have a feeling Hughes will last till the 4th or 5th then get a submission. Bastard

called it btw

I think GSP will destroy Hughes.

My prediction:

GSP won't be in fight condition on such short notice. He will win rounds one and two handily, landing decent strikes, defending Hughes' takedown attempts, and scoring a few of his own. The third round will be relatively even, but with Hughes scoring a big takedown or two and maintaining control on the ground. Hughes wins in round 4 via submission.

YES!!!

I HATE GSP! I hope he just gets piled.

A few choice words from Matt Hughes from mmaweekly

“It’s bad in the fact that I’m fighting a lot tougher opponent than Matt Serra,” said Hughes of the change in opposition.

“I just feel that Matt Serra is getting the easy way out. If he would have beat me, then he would have fought Georges again; so he would have fought both of us. Now, he's getting the easy way out, fighting just one of us, possibly.”

So it's been pretty clear that he dislikes Serra so I still wanna see both of them fight. But I still want a GSP win.

You know UFC is a work right, this is just an angle

Last thing Hughes wanted is to fight GSP again, you can tell after Serra KOed GSP

If you are referring to the video of him looking absolutely stunned and Sherk coming up to him to say something to him, then you might as well had the camera on the entire UFC audience because I looked the exact same way.

NO ONE thought Serra was going to win the way he did.

PPV is shaping up solidly.

Machida vs Sokoudjou is going to be awesome.

God damn,that Tommy Speer is an ox. Never seen a guy stuff so many submission attempts off pue strength alone.

Why? Machida is the most boring fighter ever.

Oh yeah, Sean Sherk has officially been stripped of the lightweight title.

Huerta for the win

Tommy is gonna KO Mac in the third

J-Rock is gonna beat War Machine

Billy is gonna beat George just cause George is an asshole

Ben is gonna make the other guy tap

George is great. Ben is gonna be the star of this show.

Ben won the decision..

Troy KO'ed Hightower..

Both were pretty entertaining fights.. Specially, Rudeboy/Ricky.. They banged it out for the better part of a round.. Ben/that other guy was ok.. Ben dominated on his feet and on the ground.. He came out hard in the third and landed some big kicks and some decent punches..

War Machine KO'ed J-Rock..

Fight of the night so far.. That was a battle, both of them were bloody as fuck.. J-Rock seemed to control the ground landing hellacious bows from guard.. War reversed from his back outta nowhere and landed some big shots to end it..

Good fight..

Huerta tapped Guida via rear naked choke.. He was losing on the scorecard though..

All but two of the fights tonight were badass..

Also, Brock Lesnar vs Frank Mir at UFC 81..

And, Dana White is about to make some "huge announcement"..

Its that forrest is the next season's TUF coach.... i bet theyre just waiting to see who wins the liddel silva fight before they pick the next coach.


FUCKIN GUIDA! he was killing him! great fight tho.

Yeah, Dana said Forrest will be one of the coaches and \said they are gonna "shake up TUF".. They alos said Forrest was the number one contender and coaching TUF he would fight the other coach.. Does this mean it'll be Rampage??

They are gonna announce it tomorrow during the video game awards..

Dana uses number one contender too losely.... I bet he either coaches against wand if he wins or rampage if liddel loses

if forrest was true number 1 then he would have said rampage right away

I'm pretty sure its Rampage.

I'll tell you something right now. I think Forrest can beat Rampage. Rampage has major problems with guys who come out and throw bombs with recklessness.

Awesome main event!

You mean guys like Chuck Liddell?

Guys like Shogun

Guys on steroids then. None of that in the States.

oH ok . I'll take your word for that...

Yeah, but I think J-Rock/War Machine stole the show..

Also, I could not stand to see Silva as a coach.. If it's him, I prolly won't even watch next season..

p.s. Dana is a smart man and he knows Rampage=ratings..

Really good show last night

Also I don't care if Clay Guida lost he is the fuckin man. I would gladly pay money to see him fight.

Damn I missed last nights show. Glad to hear Huerta pulled it off though..now it's on for some big fights for him.

Mac Danzig is the fuckin man!

He announced Rampage vs Forrest at the video game awards. Hope it doesnt bite him in the ass holding the title until after the show again.

I should have said not blatanly obviously on steroids. UFC has testing and fighters know the way around them. Silva and Shogun had no reason not to be on juice in Japan.

An entire season of a camera on Rampage = RATINGS

I hope Rampage and Forrest end up hating each other

So it's Rampage as the other coach??

OMG

yea it is... i guess it makes sense since hes injured and cant start training till may which is when the show would be airing anyway

How is Forrest a qualified coach?

As Hughs said the past season, it not about teaching moves and whatnot.. Most of the guys who make it to TUF are trained already.. The "coaches" are more about setting training regimans and gameplanning for fights.. Also cornering.. I don't see how Forrest isn't qualified.. Supposedly he is one of the biggest gym rats in the UFC, has big fight experience and knowledge of the workings of UFC..

Why would you think he's not qualified??

I've never watched much MMA shit before just because I haven't been interested. Decided to check this out since Guida's from my hometown and a few of my buddies that wrestled with him were going to the bar to watch it. I have to say, there were some really entertaining fights going on. I thought Clay was going to take the fight, but he just got fucking rocked with that knee. It felt like a little bit of Johnsburg died that night because everyone was freaking out at the possibility of such a huge win, and then Clay got choked out. Damn. I might have to watch more in the future.

Is he a black belt in anything? Does he run his own school/camp?

He wins..

Why does anything eles matter??

Thing about most MMA promotions, you don't really have to win to get respect.. Like, he was dominating that fight until the rear naked choke.. He'll def be back and prolly fight Huerta again..

Just wondering if he has ANY coaching experience.

How were Rich Franklin, Matt Hughes, Tito Ortiz, Chuck Liddell, Randy Couture, Ken Shamrock, Matt Serra, Jens Pulver or BJ Penn qualified?

Probably not, but as I said, he is not training them.. These are already trained fighters who he will help add to their training to be more efficent and gameplan and corner..

That's it..

Exactly..

Championships.

O_o

So the thousands of people out there who own and run MMA gyms, who haven't held a championship, aren't qualifies to run their gyms??

What?

So all the guys who coached those fighters must be shit because they don't have world titles?

Pure bollocks. Top fighters don't automatically make top coaches. In boxing, Freddie Roach, Billy Graham, Manny Steward and Enzo Calzaghe did nothing in the ring and yet they must have trained like 50 world champions between them.

Oh and Liddell wasn't a champion when he was the coach on the first TUF series so that "arguement" goes out the window.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...g/mma/tank.jpg

AHAHAHAHAHA

Is that really Tank Abbott??

Jesus Kris... YES! As a coach, you have to be able to work with all different kinds of people. Now I am pretty sure youve played sports before. Have you ever had a bad coach? A lot of the time the most successful and talented guys in any sport turn out to be really shitty coaches. Not all the time, but enough to be a trend. No guys like Randy, Hughes, and Serra are a little different because of their experience in the sport, but Forrest has only been around the ufc for about 3-4 years. Before that he was a cop that was doing this on the side. Hes probably never coached before which could be a little tough because you have to be able to work with fighters and connect with your guys. You have to be able to understand different personality types and try your best to be patient with everyone. No Forrest seems like a cool guy but who knows how hes gonna be as a coach. Just cuz hes funny doesnt mean hes not gonna screw up with coaching the fighters.

Also, he doesnt have that much big match experience. His three biggest matches were the TUF finals, vs Tito, and vs Shogun. No real main events, and no title fights.

Maybe he'll be an awsome coach, but its hard to say hes more than qualified and your nuts if thinking him winning makes him a good coach.

All former/current champs? Run their own acadamys? Around 10 years of fighting experience each except maybe Franklin?

Im not trying to be a huge dick here, but all those guys have at least two of those things, most all three.

Its not necessarily championship status as much as having to have a lot of big match and high pressure experience that comes with winning a championship. Something that Forrest doesnt have much of.

He has more than the guys he'll be coaching certainly..

And as I already said, it's not like they're getting hobos off the streets.. These are previously trained fighters.. All the "coach" has to do if mold their training and corner them, which I think Forrest is more than capable of doing..

I don't think Rampage is gonna be a good coach.

Im not saying forrest wont be, Im just saying hes got the cards stacked against him. Who knows about Rampage tho.

That's reasons why they might be good coaches. That's not a qualification. I'm not trying to be a dick either but there isn't any standard of coaching badges for MMA so saying one person is more or less qualified than others is a load of shite.

I used to coach kids football and I'm now qualified with badges by the FA to coach kids but I can tell you from my own experience that I could have done as well without the qualification.

Rampage has 2 of out the 3 too and he is known for being a lazy motherfucker when it comes to training. Forrest is known for working his balls to the ground in the gym. Now if you took away the names, you'd want to work with the hard worker every day. Doesn't mean he will be a good coach but it doesn't mean he won't either.

Reavant pretty much said what I was slowly getting at.

As for Rampage as a good coach, who knows, but if he brings his trainer in, look out.

I think they'll play up the coaches humour in the season, not really their coaching abilities.

I bet they just play a bunch of practical jokes on eachother and one goes out of hand then they hate eachother to hype up the fight

And what if Forrest brings in Randy Couture? Your tune change then?

Possibly, but do you think Dana would let Randy on the show?

haha yea... he wont even film wanderlei training in couture's gym

I do. They are talking now. Word is he'll get back on TV but he is done fighting now. It was either Fedor or nothing and it looks like nothing.

Generally speaking, surely if you’ve been trained by the best, you’d know how to train others fairly well right, and most of us would agree that Randy is pretty fecking good.

All I care about is that I get to see Rampage/Griffin, I said on this thread a while back that’s a dream match for me

Anyone else see the ricockulous high release GERMAN SUPLEX at the WEC show on Wednesday?

Also Pulver vs. Urijah Faber will be awesome.

Urijah Faber is fuckin awsome.

Bisping is moving to 185lbs.

Fedor is prolly the best heavyweight in MMA history..

and...?

You're probably right but the guy needs to be in the UFC for the general (North American) population to care, or to even fight the best guys. Since the UFC is top dog in MMA, he needs to be there. From the sounds of it the guy wants to pick his own opponents so it seems he may be ducking guys by not signing with UFC.

Yea I agree. Fedor might be the best but quite frankly most people here won't go out of their way to watch another promotion. They will watch the UFC..some WEC maybe or bodog ,but the big leagues is the UFC. And if he's not in there then it'll be unfortunate that majority of fans here won't even know how he looks like if he never signs.

what

i figured youd follow up on why fedor is the best or say something to go along with your obvious statement.