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Aguakate 11-29-2010 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by screech (Post 3337906)
lol I'm not a Marlins fan, just saw no one else posted it.

Not a big fan of Vazquez either, but I think he'll do better there.

He will. He usually does good on NL teams that have no chance of winning it all. Even then, he's a 15-10 pitcher.

YOUR Hero 11-29-2010 09:39 AM

Outside of NYY, Vasquez has put up solid numbers, K, innings pitched. He just don't love New York.

Innovator 11-29-2010 09:54 AM

Good to know it was a loveless relationship.

Aguakate 11-29-2010 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by YOUR Hero (Post 3338125)
Outside of NYY, Vasquez has put up solid numbers, K, innings pitched. He just don't love New York.

If Omar Minaya was still Mets GM, I'm 99% certain that he would've signed Vazquez now when the Yankees didn't re-sign him.

Thankfully, he's not. So thankfully, he didn't.

ClockShot 11-29-2010 03:47 PM

Who's got some Reality Potion?

Oh, and Juan Uribe goes across the bridge to the Dodgers. 3-years, $21 mil.

SammyG 11-29-2010 03:50 PM

Too much money, but I like the pickup. If anything, it takes away from the Giants.

ClockShot 11-29-2010 07:50 PM

Rangers sign Yorvit Torrealba to a 2-year, $6.25 mil. deal.

Mets are working on a deal with Chris Young.

Skippord 11-29-2010 11:40 PM

just read that the Rockies signed Tulo to a 7 year extension ending in 2020

hope that's true

Supreme Olajuwon 11-30-2010 01:21 AM

The only thing at stake in this Jeter contract dispute is Jeter's legacy. If Jeter stays a Yankee then he gets grouped with DiMaggio and Mantle. If he leaves, his legacy is destroyed. Dunno how he has any leverage here.

Juan 11-30-2010 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ClockShot (Post 3338362)

Oh, and Juan Uribe goes across the bridge to the Dodgers. 3-years, $21 mil.

Son of a bitch

Supreme Olajuwon 11-30-2010 07:56 AM

Rockies re-up Jorge De La Rosa for reportedly 3 years, $32 million. Thought he was going to be that guy who got the ridiculously overpriced contract this offseason, but I guess being a Type A free agent hurt his interest with other clubs.

SammyG 11-30-2010 04:51 PM

UURRIIBBEE, bye Theriot!!! ok, diggin' us now

Evil Vito 11-30-2010 05:14 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Buster Olney said the Mets were close to signing Young but then a bunch of other reporters refuted it and said nothing was close to being done. Typical offseason "he said, she said" bullshit.

That being said, I'd love to have Young. The pitching market is relatively weak this year outside of Lee, and out of that group Young's a guy I definitely wanted. He'd fit in really well at Citi. Plus they need a starter anyway since nobody knows when Santana will be ready.</font>

Supreme Olajuwon 11-30-2010 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SammyG (Post 3338367)
Too much money, but I like the pickup. If anything, it takes away from the Giants.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SammyG (Post 3339861)
UURRIIBBEE, bye Theriot!!! ok, diggin' us now

How are these two posts about the same player

SammyG 11-30-2010 08:40 PM

I still think it's too much money...

Supreme Olajuwon 11-30-2010 09:43 PM

I think you're right. I've never been a big Uribe fan at all. Definitely earned his money last year, but I don't see his numbers coming close.

Supreme Olajuwon 11-30-2010 09:47 PM

Do Dodgers fans want Kemp out? That seems to be the way the media is portraying it but come on the guy's a stud. I'd take him and I'd give up a lot to get him.

McLegend 11-30-2010 09:47 PM

I hate Juan Uribe. He's terrible.

Aguakate 11-30-2010 09:55 PM

Juan Uribe is a guy who's just been lucky to be "in the right place, at the right time". Plus he's streaky as heck.

screech 11-30-2010 10:13 PM

Love Matt Kemp. So good.

Skippord 12-01-2010 12:56 AM

Kemp was pretty bad last year. I just think its because he can be pretty lazy at times though and not that he's bad.

Droford 12-01-2010 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Skippord (Post 3339156)
just read that the Rockies signed Tulo to a 7 year extension ending in 2020

hope that's true

If Jeter isn't worth $20 million a year, he's most certainly not either (and thats what he'll be making in 5 years..)

Hardkore Kidd J 12-01-2010 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 3340155)
Do Dodgers fans want Kemp out? That seems to be the way the media is portraying it but come on the guy's a stud. I'd take him and I'd give up a lot to get him.


I really thought I'd be the only one. I love Matt Kemp the guy is a great player. And I would seriously give up a lot to get him. Probably just not as much as the Dodgers want. At this point I probably wouldn't trade Montero or Nunez(The Yankees think highly of him. They think he could be the next shortstop for the Yankees after a little more teaching)

I heard something about the Dodgers trading Kemp to us for a Cano package a few years ago. As much as I like Kemp he is not worth a Cano package IMHO.

If it came down to Montero/Nunez etc.etc. I might have to think it over but if they are not budging from their Cano package I would be so fucking pissed if the Yankees went for that.

Dragon 12-01-2010 01:43 AM

That Cano-Kemp rumor was at least a year or two ago.

Hardkore Kidd J 12-01-2010 01:47 AM

I know. Sorry I had to meant to write "A few years ago" in there and thought I did.

Skippord 12-01-2010 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Droford (Post 3340405)
If Jeter isn't worth $20 million a year, he's most certainly not either (and thats what he'll be making in 5 years..)

Tulo is way better than Jeter at this point in their careers

Dragon 12-01-2010 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Droford (Post 3340405)
If Jeter isn't worth $20 million a year, he's most certainly not either (and thats what he'll be making in 5 years..)

You're talking about players with a decade+ difference in age. Jeter is in the latter part of his career and is fighting age right now.

Tulowitzki is a much better bet at being a better player over the next however many years. He's not even in his prime yet and Jeter is obviously nearing the final stages of his.

I don't know if he'll be worth 20M a year in the future and the contract didn't seem necessary yet when the Rockies had him signed for another 3-4 years already but if he keeps putting up seasons like his last two then he'll be just as productive if not more than Jeter was in his prime.

Supreme Olajuwon 12-01-2010 02:00 AM

That Tulo deal is definitely a reaction to not keeping Holliday.

Supreme Olajuwon 12-01-2010 02:03 AM

Colorado really seems to love having that face of the franchise too. Larry Walker, Todd Helton, and now Tulo.

Dragon 12-01-2010 02:08 AM

Must be why they did this so soon. They had him for the next 4 years already for cheap. Seems unnecessary to give him an extra 6 years on top of that so soon when they really didn't have to.

I guess it gives them their franchise player but still would have been smarter to wait a couple years before extending on top of his current deal.

Evil Vito 12-01-2010 09:27 AM

<font color=goldenrod>Rangers are about to offer a 5-year deal to Lee. One of their main selling points is the fact that Texas has no state tax. They are also trying to sell him that it's closer to his home in Arkansas.

As if that matters one bit. Sure you have to pay taxes in New York, but besides the millions the Yankees will give you you also have money pouring in from endorsements and the like.

This is Sabathia all over again, people are making any excuse possible as to why he won't move. He will be a Yankee.</font>

YOUR Hero 12-01-2010 09:43 AM

Lots of negative vibes around the Yankee organization right now. I would not be surprised if that factors in Lee signing with Texas

Aguakate 12-01-2010 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by YOUR Hero (Post 3340641)
Lots of negative vibes around the Yankee organization right now. I would not be surprised if that factors in Lee signing with Texas

There are even rumors of Andy Pettitte leaving. True or not, who cares? The thing is, that like Hero said, a lot of negative vibe around the Yankees...you'd think the team crash and burned last year, lost 100 games and missed the playoffs, the way this offseason is going.

Droford 12-01-2010 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragon (Post 3340440)
You're talking about players with a decade+ difference in age. Jeter is in the latter part of his career and is fighting age right now.

Tulowitzki is a much better bet at being a better player over the next however many years. He's not even in his prime yet and Jeter is obviously nearing the final stages of his.

I don't know if he'll be worth 20M a year in the future and the contract didn't seem necessary yet when the Rockies had him signed for another 3-4 years already but if he keeps putting up seasons like his last two then he'll be just as productive if not more than Jeter was in his prime.

And Troy will be the same age as Jeter is now at the end of the contract getting $20 million in 2019 and 2020. I know you have to factor for inflation so $20 million now wont be $20 million in 10 years but still.

Dragon 12-01-2010 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Droford (Post 3340889)
And Troy will be the same age as Jeter is now at the end of the contract getting $20 million in 2019 and 2020. I know you have to factor for inflation so $20 million now wont be $20 million in 10 years but still.

His final year under contract will be his age 35 season. Next year Jeter is gonna be 37.

I'm guessing once Tulowitzki's big contract is up he won't be getting another 20M per year deal until his 40s.

Hardkore Kidd J 12-02-2010 07:49 AM

OKay let's say Hypothetically the Yankees don't get Lee. Do you think they are gonna throw a package at someone for a good to great pitcher in the NL? The way I see it the Yankees don't really have a choice. The Yankees need someone and if they don't get Cliff. I see them throwing together some good package for some good pitcher in the NL. I shudder to think what the Yankees would give away if that was the case.

Triple Naitch 12-02-2010 08:18 AM

Is there anybody out there worth getting? It seems the Yankees think Grienke does not want to/has the heart to pitch in New York. I can't think of anyone in the NL available.

Hardkore Kidd J 12-02-2010 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple Naitch (Post 3341859)
Is there anybody out there worth getting? It seems the Yankees think Grienke does not want to/has the heart to pitch in New York. I can't think of anyone in the NL available.

I believe Grienke has some depression disorder or some deep stress issue and the Yankees nor Greinke don't think he can handle New York . I'm kinda worried in dealing with someone with a medical problem on a big market team like the Yankees .We need someone though.

Skippord 12-02-2010 08:58 AM

Grienke has like crippling anxiety issues or something

Supreme Olajuwon 12-02-2010 06:30 PM

Adam Dunn signs a 4 year $56 million deal with the White Sox.

The White Sox have a DH and US Cellular is the most homer friendly park in the majors. This is going to work.


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