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slik 10-17-2016 11:17 PM

FALLING WATER...wonder if it is good...randomly watched THE STRAIN yesterday and it was pretty good

Droford 10-17-2016 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark One (Post 4875497)
A dude that was pretty much as over as Stone Cold and The Rock in the 90s came back to wrestling after 12 years and people are talking about how stupid it is.

It's making my brain hurt.

Larry Dallas on Busted Open made the point that Goldberg didn't debut til way after Nitro had beaten RAW in the aratings and by the time he was champion RAW was back to winning regularly

Clerk 10-17-2016 11:18 PM

Wtf I thought chrisley knows best was on after raw . This is bullshit

KIRA 10-17-2016 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark One (Post 4875497)
A dude that was pretty much as over as Stone Cold and The Rock in the 90s came back to wrestling after 12 years and people are talking about how stupid it is.

It's making my brain hurt.

I said something positive at the end

slik 10-17-2016 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark One (Post 4875497)
A dude that was pretty much as over as Stone Cold and The Rock in the 90s came back to wrestling after 12 years and people are talking about how stupid it is.

It's making my brain hurt.

Brock wrestling anyone who is past their prime generally makes me nervous b/c I like Brock matches where he is 'hard-hitting' and he has to tone down with older talent.

No one is mad at Goldberg personally, they just can't forget their WMXX match.

James Steele 10-17-2016 11:21 PM

It's amazing that 12 years after they shit the bed, this match is still as full of hype and energy as it was in 2004. People forget how hyped that match was at WMXX hence why it was such a letdown. Surely they will want to "make things right" from that match.

James Steele 10-17-2016 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Droford (Post 4875508)
Larry Dallas on Busted Open made the point that Goldberg didn't debut til way after Nitro had beaten RAW in the aratings and by the time he was champion RAW was back to winning regularly

He was all WCW had once they ruined Sting at Starrcade 97 and refused to give DDP the world title push until Spring Stampede 99. That's why they hot shot the belt on him in the summer.

slik 10-17-2016 11:23 PM

Goldberg is better on the mic than Roman Reigns

Droford 10-17-2016 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Clerk (Post 4875509)
Wtf I thought chrisley knows best was on after raw . This is bullshit

It's on after SD. I assume cause USA assumes AJ Styles fans are rednecks who would watch it

slik 10-17-2016 11:33 PM

segment w/ Goldberg was really good though

Clerk 10-17-2016 11:42 PM

Oh ok. Chrisley and his family are very motivational people. Especially chrisley

Dark One 10-17-2016 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Droford (Post 4875519)
It's on after SD. I assume cause USA assumes AJ Styles fans are rednecks who would watch it

Something something THE GAY COMMUNITY!?

Mr. Nerfect 10-18-2016 12:02 AM

People jizzing over the same matches every week but being down on an actual star coming back are making my head ache. Gonna track down that Goldberg promo. :y:

Evil Vito 10-18-2016 12:05 AM

Goldberg was the first wrestler I was ever a mark for, so I'm excited as fuck to see him back. He's clearly going to job to Brock and it probably won't even be close, but I don't care.

Mr. Nerfect 10-18-2016 12:11 AM

I think he'll look good for a second. Maybe it'll be like a Goldberg squash, with Brock finding a powder, regaining himself and then killing Goldie?

James Steele 10-18-2016 12:13 AM

I don't see this being a squash. I just hope they don't give it too much time. Epic entrances, epic stare down, crazy brawl, Kickout of finishers, crazy counter into the F5...BROCK WINS. 15-20 minutes tops. With Goldberg wanting to have his son see him wrestle and stuff and how much of a pain in the ass he's been in the past, no way he comes back just lets Brock roll over him.

James Steele 10-18-2016 12:15 AM

Goldberg probably put in a "no wigs" clause though.

James Steele 10-18-2016 12:16 AM

The $1,000,000 Question is who is finally going to be the one to beat Lesnar clean and will they get the "megastar" they need out of that win to justify all the money and wins they've given Brock Lesnar. Is it at WM 33 or another year or 2 down the line? How much longer can they milk Brock destroying people as a major draw?

Crimson 10-18-2016 12:20 AM

Lol if Goldberg wins clean

Dark One 10-18-2016 12:33 AM

http://capricorncity.com/wp-content/...ldberg-Wig.jpg

#BROKEN Hasney 10-18-2016 07:12 AM

Good lord. Can they get a writer who can do a face promo? Sparklecrotch?

...

Ruien 10-18-2016 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 4875546)
The $1,000,000 Question is who is finally going to be the one to beat Lesnar clean and will they get the "megastar" they need out of that win to justify all the money and wins they've given Brock Lesnar. Is it at WM 33 or another year or 2 down the line? How much longer can they milk Brock destroying people as a major draw?

Rollins.

Black Widow 10-18-2016 07:32 AM

Should have done the Spear and Jackhammer to somebody other than that cool.

#BROKEN Hasney 10-18-2016 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by sliksuke nakamura (Post 4875440)
This is not CWC...u get five minutes to shine or DIE on RAW...cruiserweights all dying r/n

Fit in well on Raw then.

Evil Vito 10-18-2016 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 4875546)
The $1,000,000 Question is who is finally going to be the one to beat Lesnar clean and will they get the "megastar" they need out of that win to justify all the money and wins they've given Brock Lesnar. Is it at WM 33 or another year or 2 down the line? How much longer can they milk Brock destroying people as a major draw?

Roman Reigns.

Ruien 10-18-2016 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by #BrotherVito DELETED (Post 4875607)
Roman Reigns.

You misspelled Seth Rollins.

#BROKEN Hasney 10-18-2016 08:29 AM

BRAUUUUUNNNNNNNN

Big Vic 10-18-2016 08:45 AM

Brock/Goldberg should be a 3 minute squash where Goldberg goes over.

#BROKEN Hasney 10-18-2016 09:05 AM

His fat little son can finish off Brock like he did Goldberg last night, with naiomis finisher to the face.

Evil Vito 10-18-2016 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruien (Post 4875608)
You misspelled Seth Rollins.

Except for the fact that it's clearly going to be Roman Reigns.

Big Vic 10-18-2016 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by #BROKEN Hasney (Post 4875614)
His fat little son can finish off Brock like he did Goldberg last night, with naiomis finisher to the face.

Hmmm people are being quite vicious to an 8 year old.

Jordan 10-18-2016 10:00 AM

God it's nice to have a wrestler on Raw. What a great wrestling promo.

Simple Fan 10-18-2016 10:22 AM

Raw just feels thrown together without any thought any more. I'm over the crusierweights, silly to change the ring like that every time. And having them be the last match of Raw is dumb. They tried to copy the CWC and its just not working. I don't think they should have held Goldburg til last either. Goldburg vsLesnar should be good though, no way they stink it up twice. Could care less about the women's Hell in the Cell. I just feel its to much to fast. They have never even had a cage match but that's what you get when the PPV is named after a gimmick match.

Big Vic 10-18-2016 12:24 PM

I think there has been a women's cage match before.....with Lita and Trish? Maybe I'm wrong.

Big Vic 10-18-2016 12:27 PM

Scratch that, it was victoria and lita:

http://profightdb.com/img/flags/us.gif WWE Monday Night Raw
Nov 24th 2003<table cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr class="chequered"><td>
</td><td width="22%">Victoria</td><td width="9%">def. </td><td width="22%">Lita</td><td>steel cage</td><td>
</td></tr></tbody></table>

Simple Fan 10-18-2016 01:10 PM

None of these woman have ever been in a cage match though. 13 years ago they had a women's cage match, why did they stop? I'm all for the women doing as much as the men but start them off with regular gimmick matches before you put them in a Hell in a Cell match. I'm sure they will have a good match but it just feels to forced in my opinion. As I said though when you have PPVs named after gimmick matches it kind of forces them to put them in a Cell.

Destor 10-18-2016 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Simple Fan (Post 4875677)
None of these woman have ever been in a cage match though. 13 years ago they had a women's cage match, why did they stop? I'm all for the women doing as much as the men but start them off with regular gimmick matches before you put them in a Hell in a Cell match. I'm sure they will have a good match but it just feels to forced in my opinion. As I said though when you have PPVs named after gimmick matches it kind of forces them to put them in a Cell.

Because for a dacade they hired and taught models to wrestle instead of hiring wrestlers.

Big Vic 10-18-2016 01:16 PM

By the end of the year I expect them to be in an inferno match.

Simple Fan 10-18-2016 01:19 PM

Maybe once Sister Abigail shows up.

The CyNick 10-18-2016 01:35 PM

Goldberg presentation was excellent, only a geek would say it wasn't. I liked that he played up being a superhero to the kids. Will be interesting to see if WWE tries to keep him around as a special attraction for a couple Manias. I know he said this was his last deal, but that can easily be changed. Too bad the fans in Toronto will likely crap on him just cuz they think that are cooler than the room. Would be better if those fans weren't always trying to be the show. But we'll enjoy their money anyway.

Didn't see anything else this week, but I'm sure it was good.


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