No, he wasn't.

He may have laughed at you for being an idiot, but that's it.

LOL Not only is Brady better, but Pennington is always getting injuried and shit. Brady will probably play longer then him if Pennington keeps getting hurt, and Brady already has more rings then Pennington will ever win. So I don't know what you really going for here. What are we waiting to see?

And back to Giants and Jets. Predicting a Giants collapse isn't that big of a thing. Yeah they started out like 5-2 but they looked like garbage, I knew they weren't that good. They only have 1 touchdown catch by a WR all season, that is disgusting.

Jets are doing better then I thought they were going to do though, I didn't expect Curtis Martin to have anything left in the tank. I don't care though, Patriots always beat the Jets so WHATEVER.

Yeah Pennington is the most fragile QB ever. Everytime he scrambles I feel like I am gonna have a heart attack.

Yeah I remember when he fractured and dislocated his wrist in the preseason, that was crazy.

I almost cried when Eli got hammered in the first game by that Eagles defender. I was like god damn thats $50 million.

wow I hate Redskins fans. everyone is just saying that Eli Manning sucks and will never be good. I am going to love when he is the best quarterback in the league. the Giants need like three years for their offensive line to really get to know each other. gonna be awesome.

Yeah, I don't say anything to my friends or anything right now AssMan. In the back of my mind I know and thats good enough for me. These guys can have their time.

Brad Johnson

Yeah, he took legitimate quotes (which I was right) that I said about the Steelers and tried applying them to the Jets which didn't make any sense.

and if I was the idiot and you guys are all such geniuses how come the Giants suck?

Who knows, the season ain't over, maybe they go on a 4-0 run, make the playoffs and win the superbowl, then I'll tip my hat to you, but as it stands now, you're all the "idiots".

Agreed, but when I dare to suggest the Giants weren't that good when they started off, Trips and Co. had a hissy fit. As if "You know nothing about football for predicting that, the Giants are great... etc... etc..."

You were saying the stupidest shit. You were saying that Tiki Barber isn't even having an outstanding season. Do you realize how dumb that was?

If they keep the same line for 3yrs, Eli's in trouble.

They need some OL help, plus Eli needs a full offseason to learn the whole playbook so they can let him use his skills.

They have him on limited plays and quick releases and aren't letting him try to read defenses as much as say Warner was.

I think Eli has talent, will the Giants put the proper team around him and bring him along properly is the real question.

are we going to go through that again?

I said and clarafied over and over, that he is not an outsanding RB, you have to put up these type of numbers more then once to be "outstanding".

His numbers before this year are not outstanding, they're good some years less then good.

This year he's having a great year, but to be an "outstanding RB" you have to do it more then once.

If you watch Eli, it is so frustrating. As soon as the ball is snapped, he looks like he is fearing for his life. Like right away, every fucking play, the defensive line gets through and is running at him. The line has allowed fucking two punt blocks in two weeks. No quarterback would be able to perform well with the way they're playing now.

Even I realize how good of a season Tiki is having. Wish I had him on my fantasy team :(

You didnt read what he said. He said "Tiki is having an oustsanding season". He did not say Tiki is an outstanding RB. You said yuour self "he's having a great year", you're agreeing with him. Stop trying to argue for the sake of arguing

Miz, if you don't know what your talking about, don't post.

He's talking about something previously posted in the thread, go back and read.

To which I responded and posted stats showing he wasn't.

I never denied he's not having a good year, just (in my opinion) based on his past history he's playing over his head. Again, we'll know for sure next year.

So, go back to changing around things I said so they make no sense, seems to be something your good at.

The defense rests your honor. :D

I know "you don't like me" VEL, but your right.

You stupid shit. "They have been playing great" is what I said, and they were at the time.

Right after that, their deep threat WR, Tim Carter, got injured for the entire season. He opened up so much shit for the Giants offense. He is so fast. After that, they had no deep threat at all and their other WRs could not carry them.

Also, like 60% of their defense is injured and like 2 or 3 of their starting offensive linemen have been injured. Shit happens.

yeah, I'll have to go back and look at the date and stats then to see what pace he was on, I either had a valid reason (and it could only be stats related) or mis-typed.

and the outstanding = average was refrencing him saying Tiki has always been an outstanding back, which isn't true.

Also, good year and oustanding pace are two completely different things. There are plenty of players having good years but are far from being on an outstanding pace.

Wait, I know how I can settle his disagrement.

"Hey Trips, hope your kids get Aids" :roll:

Auburn representin' :mad:

I did :wave:

:foc:

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to BCWWF again.

LOL He is the only Giants WR with a TD catch this season.

I know, disgusting. Amani Toomer has some shit wrong with his hamstring I think, and Ike Hilliard is just a piece of shit. Has like 35 fumbles this season.

Still though its not like Tim Carter is still some nasty probowl WR or something, they don't really have a lot of talent on that team. Toomer isn't even that great, neither is Hilliard. Tiki barber is like the really only good offensive player they got, Shockey is an average TE..everyone is just on his nuts because he flips out and shit.

Nah, Shockey was damn good. He used to have great catches all the time, but now he's lost it all or something.

Yeah, but he's always (since being a pro) had trouble dropping the ball.

Maybe Eli will be the answer for him.

Nervous Ferret"s 1st annual "What the Jets need to do to win" post

1. Most importantly They need to make Roethlisberger throw the ball. I don't care about all the "how great he is" bullshit. He is still a rookie, and if you give him a chance,... he will fuck up.

2. The way the Jets accomplish #1. They need to "contain" the Steeler's rushing attack. By no means will the Jets ever be able to stop and shut down the steelers. But by containing Duce and The Bus could mean a Jets victory on Sunday.

3. When Ben does throw they need to get immediate pressure, and get inside his head. This will most likely be more difficult than the run-stopping due to the ijury of John Abraham.

Okay onto offense

4. Lamont Jordan. He could be the perfect change-up to Curtis Martin and to counteract the Steelers. It would be like trying to fight fire with fire but only fire would prevail. Lamont has hardly played this season so he's completely fresh and could be vital to the stretch run. Lamont 10-15 carries may equal a Jets win.

5. Eat up clock. They need to get 1st downs and keep the Steelers D on the field. Wearing them out in the beggining of the game may be crucial at the end.

6. Recievers need to make plays. Chad will put the ball where it needs to be. The recievers just need to catch it.

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note: That means don't throw it to Anthony Becht. Ever.

So thats basucally it.

Review:
- make Roethlisberger throw, and get pressure on him
- contain the steelers rushing attack
- Lamont Jordan. And lots of him.
- Get 1st downs
- NO BECHT!

Nervous Ferret's 2nd annual "What the jets need to do to win post:

okay What they need to beat the Seahawks:
-stop the big play [Alexander will do well, but just hold him to the least amount of big plays as possible.
-Shut down Darrell Jackson [he's been big/now shut him down.]
-control the ball on offense
-LAMONT!!!!!!!

Come'on Giants don't fuck this up.

Will give the Giants some respect and give the Pats a shot at home field for the playoffs.

YYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH

Sweet..Giants on top right now

ELIIII

2 point conversion? Come on coach...retarded. Eli = tearing it up. Shockey going crazy = :love:

I like the Steelers a tad more but this is a good game to watch...

Hines Ward is a piece of shit and I want to throw a brick at his stupid round face