yeah i want to see what will be live and what will be taped tonight. impact can tape all there new stuff in jax with the aew folks and bring any impact wrestlers they need for the new stuff.

Ken Shamrock is finally gonna get revenge on Jericho for running him out of wwe.

AEW just needs to hire Bischoff and Hogan and move Dynamite to Monday nights.

Sammy is better than Elias. Change my mind. (6:00)

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I refuse to watch it bc it's not ALL elite. There are many bums on the roster.

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Push that Doggo!!

JR has had enough and blasted AEW on their “evolution of wrestling” bullshit. Ripped into guys, friends and foe alike, standing around to catch idiots. Brandon Cutler took JR’s words and tried to use them to promote his unwarranted appearance on Dynamite this week.

TK is spineless and JR is just happy collecting a cheque, but it would be hilarious if this spirals into something.

JR has had enough and blasted AEW on their “evolution of wrestling” bullshit. Ripped into guys, friends and foe alike, standing around to catch idiots. Brandon Cutler took JR’s words and tried to use them to promote his unwarranted appearance on Dynamite this week.

TK is spineless and JR is just happy collecting a cheque, but it would be hilarious if this spirals into something.

I think he's doing some damage controll...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Appreciate it Tony. <br>I’m having the professional time of my life. <br>Fully committed to <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyKhan?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TonyKhan</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/AEW?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEW</a> <br>There’s gas in the tank. 🤠 <a href="https://t.co/tDRFADpV7k">https://t.co/tDRFADpV7k</a></p>&mdash; Jim Ross (@JRsBBQ) <a href="https://twitter.com/JRsBBQ/status/1337913952177631238?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 13, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This would make more sense if Cody Rhodes went away for a while and we got a bunch of other Cody Rhodes, with one being a cyborg, a murderer Cody Rhodes, and a younger clone of Cody Rhodes and then Cody Rhodes comes back with a mullet. <a href="https://t.co/Fhn6nZeqP0">https://t.co/Fhn6nZeqP0</a></p>&mdash; throwaway (@BestInTheGalaxy) <a href="https://twitter.com/BestInTheGalaxy/status/1338329484190167043?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 14, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Cody Rhodes confirmed as remaking Michael K's Multiplicity.

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always felt bad for Doug #4

Good thing she's banging the color guy.

that makes me think, if someone who didn't watch wrestling overheard a wrestling fan say, "booker t was a color guy," they would probably think so


especially if you said "shit color guy"

Isn't everything racist in the current world view? Ergo, nothing is?

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Yeah, he and Conrad need to spend more time on their nostalgia podcast discussing his work with a company that’s a year old.

Quit using logic, Fan.

I can't wait to hear crabby Jim Ross complain about Brandon Cutler on his podcast

i want to see what kind of work they turn it into

Brandon Cutler should attack JR with a bottle of bbq sauce and bloody him up

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Lmao Tony not pulling punches in that promo

hahahhahaa

Then, later on, we get an ill-advised tag team of Cody Rhodes Red and Cody Rhodes Blue. :shifty:

This whole issue makes me think of a story from Lance Storm a number of years ago where people from both ROH and TNA around the same period of time asked him to critique them; and be brutally honest.

The ROH guys pretty much took what he had to say to heart, asked him questions, picked his brain about how to fix said criticisims, etc. A lot of those guys ended up going to WWE.

The responses from the TNA roster, on the other hand, were like "aw man, why you gotta be so negative?" and there was one thing about a stupid finish to a match, and the people involved supposedly KNEW it was stupid, and did it anyway. And their reply to being told it was stupid was "Yeah, but...", which Lance picked apart as a peeve.

Just because you don't like something said doesn't necessarily make it false. Also, why hire these vets if you have no plan on heeding their advice? Yeah, it's nice to have JR call your match, but if you're worried about him burying you on air, how about you don't do the stupid shit that gets you bured? Maybe Jim Ross knows what the fuck he's talking about in the business and has more to offer than to be the nostalgic voice on-air.

Of course, that's the type of critique that would come from someone like Cornette, which means AEW should do 100% the opposite just to be contrarian instead of actually giving thought as to WHY that is a criticisim.

And I want someone to answer - because I'm not going to watch - but I'm betting they specifically do a wait-and-catch dive spot in the 7 on 7 just because its fun to "rebel" instead of it just being yet another dive spot that Randy Orton even called out being a trend YEARS ago. I'd even go so far as to say there will ALSO be/have been (if it's past tense as of this post) multiple finishers kicked out of in this same show, if not same match, just to completely PROVE JR'S POINT without any trace of irony of self-awareness.

I want to know after the fact if both of these things happened.

Everyone remembers Snuka diving off the cage. He didn't do it every fucking week, though, nor was he surrounded by a roster full of people doing the same spot. If they were, nobody would remember Snuka because there'd be nothing special. If everybody did what Jeff Hardy did, Jeff wouldn't be shit today. Same with Rey Rey. One of the reasons why Ricochet isn't nearly as over as he should be is because most of his contemporaries work like he does. What makes him special outside of his "hero pose" spot?

A big part of why nobody's special on AEW is because the roster is full of guys making themselves not special.

There are lots of people in AEW who 'feel special' tho...they've done a better job of getting over talent many of us had never heard of/didn't now much about before AEW in one year than WWE has done in years. Off the top of my head MJF, Darby Allin, Sammy Guevara, Ricky Starks, Britt Baker, John Silver, OC, Jungle Boy...

The entire AEW roster isn't doing backflips and dives and superkicks...WWE and NXT in particular features as many, if not more dives, flips and kicks than AEW. I never understand why people think this is some AEW phenomenon.

I want to mention Ricochet in particular for one moment. When he did the whole Vader-rage inducing bit with Ospreay, it was exciting because it was new and he hadn't done it with many people.

When he did it with Cesaro, you could buy it because Cesaro is this freakish combination of brute strength and insane athleticism.

Doing it with Ivar (? the bigger guy from the Viking Raiders) kind of made him look bad because this much larger man was keeping up with him and being as athletic as he was.

If he was smart, he would have done that spot with variations where he just overwhelms his opponents on their toes because he was so much faster and athletic than they are. Then again, if he was smart, he'd learn how to throw a dropkick that doesn't look shitty and non impactful. I'm not talking Minoru Suzuki attempting to murder the guy coming off the ropes dropkick, but one that looks like a strike and not him gently shoving a guy with his feet.

AEW has protected most of their top guys. Cody has lost, what, 3 times since their debut ppv? Darby Allen feels pretty specialeven tho he seems to lose a lot.

Omega and Moxley are two of the most protected guys on the roster. Moxley just lost for the first time and it was some with a screwy finish that AEW has mostly stayed away from, but it was used to actually tell/enhance a story.

I don't think Hangman has lost much either.

They also avoid the WWE pratfall of 'people feuding should wrestle each-other every week and then at a ppv as well'.

You post more in AEW threads than WWE threads.

Wardlow out with family situation, so 6 vs 6 now (Cutler removed from other team).

I'm not expecting tonight to be a stellar episode...matches just seem meh to me. Hopefully there's some good story building with Omega, plus there'll be Sting so there's that.

Are we just to assume we're not hearing from Moxley at all? Really curious to see what they do with him going forward and how, if at all, he plays into this story.

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Brain fart when I looked at tonight's show. Yeah, hopefully Mox makes a showing

Sting does not make me want to tune in. Not even when he was in WWE.