The one thing that will make ESPN care about hockey again is if the NFL does have a lockout.

Remember the ESPN channel is different over here though. They do show alot of hockey atleast which is one of the main reasons i've got it. Just didn't realise what they were doing at first, but they have missed the whole of an overtime/possibly a shoot out before so i was about to get very annoyed then!

Best game I have ever seen and the best night of my life!!!!!!!

Unreal. Unfucking real. Best night ever in the history of life ever in the world.

Where do you live that hockey is on ESPN?

Probably Canada

England.

Lol at Price vs Thomas

lol at any Hab of even thinking of dropping their gloves.

Who was the one who got the fuck beat out of him? I just saw the highlights ....

Only Pouliot seemed to be able to handle his guy, and the guy is fucking 6'4''. He better be able to outpunch Krejci. As for the others, I love my team, but there's no way any of them is winning a fight.

Spacek and Pyatt got beat up pretty badly, if they're the ones you're referring to.

I'm not even suggesting picking up a goon, just a guy to has some sandpaper in him and will drop the gloves so guys like Spacek dont have to fight. That's the second time this year Spacek got his ass kicked and he should never have to drop the gloves.

Somehow I'm not suprised about Mike Fisher heading to Nashville considering who he's married to.

Yeah, instead of paying a goon to fight, we pay a center alot to suck ass.

Need a power forward who likes to fight.

There are rumours of Gauthier wanting Chris Neil or Jason Arnott. Not really what I was expecting.

For a team that has Scott Gomez, I can't say much.

I wouldnt mind Neil though.

I wouldn't mind Gomez if he was half that price.

Even then, it would be a bit overpaid.

2014 looks like a good year for the Habs.

Great fight in the kings/penguins game just now.

It wouldn't shock me in the least to see the Habs make a play for Neil, depsite being in the same division. I mean, the Habs traded Grabovski to Toronto and it worked out well for Montreal.....oh wait.

Penguins win tonight despite having a second lime comprised entirely of AHL guys

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He's back and in the line-up tonight. What impact do you expect from him, if any at all?

Playing with Duchene and Hejduk, I will say 2A 1PPP + 1 and 4 SOG

Can't say we miss Grabovski. He was being a constant bitch here, getting drunk in bars with Higgins and the Kostitsyns, and when he would get demoted, he would throw a fit in the papers. He even refused to get on the plane one time as some form of strike or something. I don't know. Fuck Grabovski, really, no matter how good he is.

Duchene is a center and so is Forsberg, that's not gonna happen.

Looks like he will be playing LW or Duchene will.

I think Duchene would benefit from playing on the Wing. Less defensive responsibilities, and with a Centre like Forsberg, could see a lot of good opportunities to put the biscuit in the basket.

Mind you, with Forsberg's health, maybe he would be better off on the wing.

Forsberg is playing left wing

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If I EVER met this cuntwaffle, I will boot him in his dick so fucking hard his mother will feel something going in her ass.

Guy likes two teams

So, apparently the <s>Pittsburgh</s> Wilkes-Barre Penguins aren't anywhere near as good as the NY Islanders.

jesus, this is hilarious.

Omfg, Brawling in the Pens/NYI game

This game is redic. There's like no one left on the bench lol

Unbelievable.

7 Total Skaters left lol Really?

Penalty Summary
1st Period
Penalty Summary Time Team Penalty Players
2:37 NY Islanders roughing - 2 min M. Haley drawn by Z. Michalek
10:22 NY Islanders fighting - 5 min M. Haley drawn by C. Adams
10:22 Pittsburgh fighting - 5 min C. Adams drawn by M. Haley
14:33 NY Islanders hooking - 2 min T. Hamonic drawn by M. Rupp
15:51 Pittsburgh too many men on ice - 2 min Bench served by E. Tangradi
17:56 Pittsburgh fighting - 5 min E. Godard drawn by T. Gillies
17:56 NY Islanders fighting - 5 min T. Gillies drawn by E. Godard
20:00 NY Islanders slashing - 2 min J. Tavares drawn by K. Letang
2nd Period
Penalty Summary Time Team Penalty Players
5:21 NY Islanders fighting - 5 min J. Bailey drawn by P. Dupuis
5:21 Pittsburgh fighting - 5 min P. Dupuis drawn by J. Bailey
5:21 NY Islanders fighting - 5 min T. Hamonic drawn by M. Rupp
5:21 Pittsburgh fighting - 5 min M. Rupp drawn by T. Hamonic
5:21 Pittsburgh game misconduct - 10 min D. Engelland
5:21 NY Islanders game misconduct - 10 min T. Hamonic
5:21 NY Islanders instigator - 2 min M. Martin drawn by D. Engelland
5:21 Pittsburgh roughing - 2 min D. Engelland
5:21 NY Islanders game misconduct - 10 min J. Bailey
5:21 Pittsburgh game misconduct - 10 min P. Dupuis
5:21 Pittsburgh game misconduct - 10 min M. Rupp
5:21 NY Islanders fighting - 5 min M. Martin served by T. Gillies
5:21 NY Islanders misconduct - 10 min M. Martin
5:21 NY Islanders game misconduct - 10 min M. Martin
7:51 NY Islanders slashing - 2 min F. Nielsen drawn by A. Goligoski
17:20 Pittsburgh roughing - 2 min E. Godard drawn by J. Hillen
17:30 Pittsburgh slashing - 2 min Z. Michalek drawn by M. Grabner
3rd Period
Penalty Summary Time Team Penalty Players
1:19 NY Islanders roughing - 2 min K. Okposo drawn by B. Orpik
1:19 Pittsburgh charging - 2 min B. Orpik drawn by K. Okposo
4:47 NY Islanders fighting - 5 min M. Haley drawn by M. Talbot
4:47 Pittsburgh fighting - 5 min M. Talbot drawn by M. Haley
4:47 Pittsburgh fighting - 5 min B. Johnson
4:47 Pittsburgh roughing - 2 min C. Adams
4:47 Pittsburgh game misconduct - 10 min C. Adams
4:47 Pittsburgh roughing - 2 min E. Godard
4:47 Pittsburgh roughing - 2 min E. Godard
4:47 Pittsburgh game misconduct - 10 min E. Godard
4:47 Pittsburgh game misconduct - 10 min E. Godard
4:47 NY Islanders instigator - 2 min M. Haley
4:47 NY Islanders misconduct - 10 min M. Haley
4:47 NY Islanders elbowing - 5 min T. Gillies served by J. Joensuu
4:47 NY Islanders roughing - 2 min T. Gillies
4:47 NY Islanders roughing - 2 min T. Gillies
4:47 NY Islanders misconduct - 10 min T. Gillies
12:12 Pittsburgh roughing - 2 min B. Sterling drawn by K. Okposo
12:12 NY Islanders interference with goaltender - 2 min K. Okposo drawn by B. Sterling
12:40 Pittsburgh holding - 2 min T. Kennedy drawn by F. Nielsen
16:04 Pittsburgh misconduct - 10 min K. Letang drawn by K. Okposo
16:04 NY Islanders misconduct - 10 min K. Okposo drawn by K. Letang
16:04 NY Islanders fighting - 5 min Z. Konopka drawn by M. Talbot
16:04 NY Islanders too many men on ice - 2 min J. Joensuu
16:04 NY Islanders fighting - 5 min Z. Konopka drawn by M. Talbot
16:04 NY Islanders roughing - 2 min K. Okposo drawn by K. Letang
16:04 Pittsburgh roughing - 2 min K. Letang drawn by K. Okposo
16:04 Pittsburgh roughing - 2 min M. Talbot drawn by Z. Konopka
16:04 NY Islanders roughing - 2 min Z. Konopka drawn by M. Talbot
16:04 Pittsburgh misconduct - 10 min M. Talbot
16:12 Pittsburgh misconduct - 10 min B. Sterling drawn by J. Hillen
16:12 NY Islanders misconduct - 10 min J. Hillen drawn by B. Sterling
17:43 NY Islanders fighting - 5 min A. MacDonald drawn by J. Vitale
17:43 Pittsburgh fighting - 5 min J. Vitale drawn by A. MacDonald
17:58 Pittsburgh cross checking - 2 min R. Craig served by A. Goligoski

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<font color=goldenrod>Just watched all the fighting clips from that Isles/Penguins game Fucking incredible. Clips were from the Pittsburgh feed, their announcers blow.</font>

That was unbelievable last night.

Total bush league shit last night.

What the fuck do you mean bush league. Let them go every once in awhile that was some good shit

The TV announcers definitely aren't the greatest - that's part of the reason I always listen to the radio feed. There's a reason Mike Lange is in the Hockey Hall of Fame.

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There's a difference between "letting them go" and "letting the inmates run the asylum". Last night was definitely the second.

Noticed when I first got NHL Center Ice, most of the teams have bad announce teams.

Im glad someone finally took it to Pitt. I am sick of their scummy, dirty shit. Bunch of dirty players surrounding a few super skilled guys.

<font color=goldenrod>lol @ Lemieux saying the Isles weren't punished enough and questioning whether or not he wants to stay in the league. Pens only had one player suspended and Byslma was let out of his suspension for some reason. Isles had 2 suspensions and a $100,000 fine. Shut the fuck up.

He should consider himself lucky the sanctions weren't tougher. Bettman is an idiot for not fining the Pens.</font>

I wish Gillies would have come back out on the ice after he left already. Take it to that fucker Godard, jumping off the bench. Fuck that shit. You guys want to play that type of game, dont come running off the bench when someone goes after your goalie.

I am also sick of Pitt always taking cheap shots that knock a forward into THEIR goalie, and then using it as an excuse to get cheap and physical.

In the end, I just hate the Pens, Period.

<font color=goldenrod>That's what pissed me off the most with those retarded announcers. Orpik knocked Grabner into the Pittsburgh goalie and the announcers praised it. Same thing happened later in the game and the announcers bitched that Okposo charged into him, ignoring the fact that he was hit.</font>

Bullshit it was all dirty, charging and elbowing and injuring a guy into the glass then punching him while he's going down, blindsde punching a guy, fighting one guy then charging across the ice to fight a goalie, total bush league. The Islanders called up at least one goon for this game, it was obvious the organization instructed their players to play like this, it's awful hockey.

Are you serious the Pens other than Godard did nothing suspendable in this game fuck off seriously (who do you want suspended, Talbot for getting blindside Punched? Johnson for having a player fight one guy and then charge half way across the ice to fight him?, Tangradi for getting charged, eblowed and then punched repeatedly in the face as he was going down, btw you want to talk about bad Announcer's listen to the Islanders, they called the punch on Talbot as justifiable emotion and accuse Tangradi of turtling after getting his head smashed in and having no chance to even try to fight back, the Tangradi incident is one of the most disgusting things I've seen in years) . Pens only had one player suspended because the Pens only had one player who did anything suspendable (and he got the most games for it too)

BTW ignore the Pens announcers they don't know shit.

The response to this by the NHL vis a vis the Isles is extremely light. Islanders should absolutely be ashamed of themselves and I'm going to say the preemptively don't anyone mention Matt Cooke, Cooke is yes a dirty total fucker but he wasn't even playing, this was an organizational plan to play absolutely stupid dirty hockey, the suspensions should have been at least double.

That happens a million times in NHL games

Not that Orpik hit on Grabner. It was cheap and un-necassary, then treated as justification for garbage physicality.

As for announcers...I think it is just who your teams is. the NHL is the last sport with true radio and Television voices for every market.

I hate everyone not named Rick Jeanneret. He is to me the best hockey announcer on the planet. But plenty of other teams fans HATE him.

I hate the Pens guys. They're dumb as rocks. Janerette blows. I really like Chris Cuthbert in Canada and Doc Emmerick on NBC

All time fav is Mike Lange.

I was watching the Red Wings play one night from their FSN feed, easily the most biased announcers I've heard.

To be fair, all of these guys are "The Official Voice of" insert team name.

I dont need an unbias announcer, I need a non shit one.

Florida has the worst by far.

Drew Stafford is finally coming out.

23 goals in 35 games.

<font color=goldenrod>Never said more Pens should be suspended - just that Mario should shut the fuck up and stop whining. Usually both teams get fined in situations like this so he's lucky the Pens didn't get any sort of monetary penalty. Even if they did it it wouldn't have been as much as the Isles', nor should it have been.

Anyway, I thought the suspensions were fine. Gillies' hit on Tangradi was comparable to Wisniewski's on Seabrook which received an 8 game suspension. Martin's was an attempted cheap shot, and given that the league has consistently (lol) based suspensions on whether the player was injured or not, 4 games isn't a terribly low amount. A lot of Pens' fans have whined about Haley, which I don't understand since he did nothing wrong other than making Letang look like an AHL defensemen. What Godard did was an automatic 10 so no need for further discussion there.

And seeing as how the league overturned both Bylsma's automatic one game suspension and his $10,000 fine, Lemieux really doesn't have a leg to stand on.

All of that is even ignoring the obvious hypocrisy of Lemieux questioning the integrity of the league and overall quality of play when he is the one signing the paychecks of cheap shot artist extraordinaire Matt Cooke.</font>

<font color=goldenrod>Anyway, Michael Grabner is on fucking fire.

I can't totally get behind the Isles' announcers but that might be mainly because it is weird hearing Howie Rose call Islanders games on TV instead of Mets games on the radio.</font>

There was no fines on the Pens side because they were literally defending themselves the whole game. The Islanders sent out players with an intention to kill, simple as that. The hit on Tangradi incident is one of the worst dirtiest things I've seen and something Matt Cooke has never done, not once. The Martin blidnside was that close to being Bertuzziesque, it's just lucky Talbot saw him in time, also something Matt Cooke has never done. COkke plays on the edge and crosses that line into dirty way more then I like but he's never premeditatedly gone after people the way the Islanders did that night.

Haley fought a guy and should have been taken off the ice, instead he basically went from one end of the rink to the other to go after Johnson. Once you finish up a fight you are supposed to go straight to the box instead he went out of his way to go after Johnson, he instigated the fight

For what its worth, it's being reported around town that Pens management is "not exactly thrilled" with the way Cooke plays - especially with the health issues Crosby is having - but they have no intention at this time to trade/cut him. If he's on your team you don't have to play against him.

They also play in the gooniest divsion. The Carcillo, Avery, Pronger, The Entire New York Islanders

The Isles are the Sabres bane lately.

Passed up a nice chance to cover some ground, but they still have games in hand on NY, Carolina and Atlanta.


Also, it makes me crazy that the Isles are barely able to stay afloat financially, and have the worst arena in sports, but won all those cups with so many legends. Like how does that happen? How does that team just ruin itself. It is sad.

Oh Hai

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Yeah, because when he does, he gets his ass on a silver platter.

Do you understand the concept of premeditation? GOing into that game the Islanders clearly had a goal to fuck up as many Penguins players as they could anyway they could especially Max Talbot and Brent Johnson

Mike Milbury and Garth Snow

<font color=goldenrod>Did you really just compare the Martin incident to fucking Bertuzzi on Moore? Come on. It was nowhere near that bad.

I can't deny that the Islanders overdid it - but pre-meditation has always had its place in hockey. Everybody knew that Talbot was gonna be a target and be in at least one fight, himself included. That's just the way it is.</font>

<font color=goldenrod>Thinking about fights - I've been to many-a-minor league game where the fights seem outright staged. 40 year old skateboarder Mike Vallely suited up for the Danbury Whalers' inaugural game. He finally took the ice to start the 3rd period - was casually talking with the player next to him, and as soon as the puck was dropped they dropped the gloves and fought. So blatantly fixed. Mikey then proceeded to land on the ice awkwardly and broke his arm, ending his season.</font> :o

From what I've read the Tangradi hit sounds awfully close the Moore/Bertuzzi one.

As a Rangers fan I hate both the pens and the isles. That being said I dont agree with the sucker punches the isle threw but if they had to do it to anyone Im glad it was the pens. Amazing how much shit the pens try to pull then they cry foul. Even Crosby has tried to slew foot others, which is so dangerous, and then cry about legal hits. You dont want to get hit? Keep your fucking head up.

He was attacked 3 times in that game, 3 fucking times Martin, Konopka and then Hale

The Martin thing was close, Talbot saw it coming at the very last second and was able to brase of impact so to speak, plus 5 guys didn't pile on him breaking his neck.

What shit have the Pens pulled, other then by guys named Cooke?

So then you approve of Cooke's hit on Savard then yes?

LOL You're one of those people who think Crosby's some dirty player aren't you.

So I guess this isn't dirty?

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I think you misunderstand. I dont condone the Islanders, I am just showing that Cooke can also be a huge piece of shit.

Crosby isnt really dirty, he got a bad rep when he came into the league as a whiner and diver. Not that bad now.

Lol, who was it that he punched in the balls btw?

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Yeah, that punch to the back of the head on a a 2 on 1 beatdown was clearly a clean hit :roll:

I also consider diving to be dirty.
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Didnt he do that vs Philly then got in Foppas face about it?

Its not as blatant, but yes he did.
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The "slewfoot" is debateable at best, the balls punching was definitely cheap but a one time incident, and everybody dives from time to time and no Crosby isn't a chronic diver though I'm sure you'll now post a ton of videos.

And lol yup here comes the rookie season BS, he was fucking like what 18 years old come on.

Debatable? Its clear as day. Also posting videos from his rookie year shows that he has been this way from the beginning. Yes there are other players who dive and perform cheapshots, but none of them complain as loudly as Crosby does.

Crosby stopped complaining after year 1, Crosby's diving reputation was completely unearned he dives no more or less than anyone else.

Tell me do you think Ovechkin is a clean player?

This is just recently.
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Crosby was just complaining that the nhl needs to protect players when he got his concussion.

And no Ovechkin is not innocent, but what does that have to do with Crosby?

I usually find the people who think Crosby is dirty as hell think Ovechkin is a saint, at least you're not one of those people

You mean the blindside hit that was basically the same thing that Cooke did to Savard? The one that everyone ignored, gee I wonder why he'd be pissed about that

In his defense, he is more visible then any player out there. Not condoning it, but its more noticed when he does it.

Crosby stil complains, but alot less. Like I said above, its alot different from when Crosby dives then when Colton Orr dives.

Ovechkin is just as dirty, but dives alot less and complains alot less. Again, it could be just because Crosby is always in the spotlight on canadian TV.

Not sure what hit you are referring to in the second half of your post though.

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The difference? Cooke lifts his elbow to hit Savard. Steckle wasnt even intentionally going after him.

Yeah, upon watching that it more looked like Steckel was trying to avoid hitting him then anything as Crosby sort of moves over in his way.

Cooke fully looked like he intended to hit Marc.

Wait now you're gonna tell me Cooke elbowed Savard? LOL come on the reason he didn't get suspended is because it was a legal hit at the time there was no elbowing, that's hwy they had to create a new rule to stop it.

And lol as if you're justifying the Steckel hit Crosby didn't have the puck you're telling me he just happened not not notice Crosby in a vulnerable position right sure.

The Cooke hit was worse but the Steckl hit is still a hit to the head, Steckel leans in ever so slightly at least from my POV.

The cooke hit, Cooke was lining Savard up. He was intending to hit him. Perhaps it was a mistake, perhaps not. But Cooke doesnt have a clean record of clean play, does he.

Steckel kinda does and again, it looks like Crosby got in the way as Steckel was skating away and he ran into him but it wasnt an intended check.

Your POV is very slanted if you dont see Cooke lift his elbow right as he hits Savard.

And you're an idiot if you think it was an elbow, if it was an elbow he's suspended period. His elbow may have lifted up after contact that happens a lot in shoulder checks

FA Cooke absolutely meant to hit him, and like I said it was a legal hit at the time.

Where is Supreme Olajuwon with a "Typical classless Pittsburgh fan" post