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Worst 3rd hour drop since Heyman took over and wouldn't be surprised if the tag team turmoil match was the reason people tuned out in droves since it was barely entertaining.
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How those attitude era ratings show how many people have switched off wrestling completely.
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Considering it was a holiday and the final week before they get hammered by football, those are decent numbers. 3rd hour having a lower drop and also being stronger than the week before helped a lot.
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It's definitely football season
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Damn... Shockingly low
Interesting that a meaningless 10 man tag team match doesn't draw in the 3rd hour |
Last year's show against the first Monday Night Football games drew 2,740,000... So this show with Stone Cold doing this terribly is not a good sign for the rest of the season.........
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I believe this might be the lowest rating for a non-holiday episode of RAW. The previous low rating for a non-holiday ep was 2.16 IIRC
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Considering the effort done to stack the show, that has to be the biggest swing-and-miss by WWE in a while.
What hurt WWE a lot was the Texans vs. Saints game being very competitive and had a hot finish. |
Comparison from Wrestling Observer board of the raw demos from 3 1/2 years ago and now:
https://i.postimg.cc/RhFs5ymj/WWE-010816-M12-34.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/pTVkz4mp/WWE-090919-M12-34.jpg |
That’s pretty brutal. Raw is about to get less important too. People say it is going to be fine, but WWE have always only been able to favor one, and NXT will be prioritized. It will be interesting. But Heyman might be left to his own devices more.
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they should compare the last couple years of RAW vs the MNF doubleheader. |
Sounds like RAW could bounce back a little next week in that case....curious to see if NXT gets a big push/character intro videos on RAW next week ahead of it's debut or if they keep the same commercials they have been airing.
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Itd be crazy to think that Smackdown on Friday on fox could get better ratings than RAW. I can see over 2 million for SD on fox
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Interesting observations on YT metrics for WWE
Big names from the past not passing 2 million within a day (Austin/Taker). Almost as if WWE is bringing back older stars too often. Bray vids on YT not passing 2 million within a day either...Bray from RAW currently at 430k views. |
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Came pretty close to matching RAW this week which is more of an indication of how badly RAW did this week than Smackdown having a great show (it didn't).
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Lol What the hell is 90 Day Fiancé?
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It’s a unique strategy to make SD the A-show by shaving half-a-million viewers off Raw.
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A reality show where two people meet and have 90 days to get to know each other before they get married
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U.S. TV Ratings system getting slightly changed for TV, will it show a slight increase for #WWE ?
https://tvnewscheck.com/article/top-...-viewing-soon/ |
Probably but doubt WWE is getting as high of an increase Nielsen is predicting for sports. Places like bars are more likely going to have football than RAW on during the season.
Even if RAW got the 11% increase, that puts this week's RAW at 2.3 million and still well below last week's numbers. |
Raw up 140k viewers
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As far as Monday Night Football competition goes, last night was probably their best chance to benefit for the rest of the year. It was a pretty bad game between two perennial bad teams that aren’t known as major ratings draws.
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The PPV bump is good but that 3rd hour is still a big killer for RAW. If it wasn't for USA Network being terrible at creating new hit shows, that 3rd hour should have been junked with the new tv deal.
Also 90 Day Fiance pretty much replaced Love & Hip Hop as the new random show that gives WWE the most trouble for rankings. |
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Baker Mayfield pops ratings, get over it bro! |
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NXT Ratings are in
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Interesting...
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USA Network and WWE have to be very pleased.
Managed to be at the level and maybe even a bit more than what Suits was doing this season and its a strong base number for the series going forward. Considering the issues the Network had at the start of the 2nd hour, probably had around 750k to a million people logging in at the same time. Also ended up being over 300k more than the NXT special on USA Network a couple years ago for some comparisons. |
Great start. It will be interesting to see if this is something they can build on.
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One of those Good/Bad type weeks but where the bad outweighs the good.
The good being that the show itself was pretty good and the overall drop was very small. The bad being the numbers started at and were all lower than last week and maybe could have generated a bit more interest had WWE actually bothered to hype up this week as a "season finale." Then you have the lingering issues of all the damage caused by Vince's stupid rules and Heyman being a mixed bag in terms of improving show quality. |
Final SD on USA
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NXT ended up with slightly over 1 million viewers (1.006 million) but also dropped from 4th to 8th in the rankings compared to last week for the USA Network hour.
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^^^ and only 320k of those viewers were in the 18-49 demographic
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What percentage of Raw/Smackdown viewers are 18-49?
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For this week:
NXT https://i.imgur.com/mUVDGHj.png SMACKDOWN https://i.imgur.com/VXLdCJA.png RAW https://i.imgur.com/lLWQr1x.png |
Another million views in the bank for NXT!
AEW's response... <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’m just gonna leave this here.....WALTER=worst wrestling name ever. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JustSayin?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JustSayin</a></p>— Chris Jericho (@IAmJericho) <a href="https://twitter.com/IAmJericho/status/1177108479720509441?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 26, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> Nice one "Chris" :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: |
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probably like 10,000 people 18-49 watched nxt then
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Nah, let's say there are like 150,000,000 people 18-49 in the US with a TV (just guessing), that would mean 480,000 people 18-49 watched
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It actually means .32 is the estimate based on the incredibly small sample size of like 10,000 households that actually have a Nielsen box...
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According to WrestlingInc, the 173k drop NXT had this week was enough to tumble their overall viewership down to #31 compared to last week's #19 ranking.
The million range mark (+/- 150k) is probably where NXT is going to hover around for at least the next few months. Maybe dip even more in the lower end depending if AEW doesn't succeed well in bringing back lapsed fans and/or eats too much into NXT's audience. |
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And his name isn’t just “Chris”. |
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However, a huge part of it has to do with the tone with which his name is said, and if the proper Germanic W pronounciation is used. That's all the difference needed to differentiate between someone who can potentially headline WrestleMania in a few years, and sounding like just some guy who is about to prepare your income taxes. |
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I tweeted a different pic at him though.. |
Live TV Ratings are in for WWE's Friday special on FOX -- Smackdown's Greatest Hits
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Raw did 2.57 this week
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Hours were 2.7 (8pm), 2.59 (9pm), and 2.41 (10pm)
Pretty good numbers overall and it also managed to get a rare win over the 90 Day Fiance show. RAW should get a bump next week because of the Cell PPV but that's probably going to be the high mark for the rest of the year and football season. |
I almost went 2.5 in the predictions, but I guess it's closer to 2.6 anyway.
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Preliminary ratings number for both AEW and NXT was released earlier in the day from Neilsen.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WEDNESDAY NIGHT WARS<br>According to overnight ratings from Nielsen, <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWrestling?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEWrestling</a> did a 0.7 and <a href="https://twitter.com/WWENXT?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWENXT</a> did a 0.5. Will be interesting to see how that translates to viewership.</p>— Ryan Glasspiegel (@sportsrapport) <a href="https://twitter.com/sportsrapport/status/1179764666064609281?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> Still possible that NXT could end up with the higher viewership due to how the demos sort out. |
Live TV Ratings for AEW and NXT are in
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Kind of crazy that AEW actually managed to beat NXT in its first week and how huge the gap was in terms of overall viewers and demo.
Even more crazy when you consider the all out effort done by NXT these past 3 weeks in terms of matches and hype and it still managed to get trounced that badly. Next week should be interesting to see what type of drop AEW gets and if things start to level out in terms of them being a lot closer in numbers. |
I'm confused how the numbers for both went up over 1 million viewers from the initial reports.
Either way I'm happy with it, much more respectable numbers. |
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Hope AEW continues to grow and build an audience... |
Holy shit. It wasn't even close. Didn't see that coming.
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I figured as much. A lot of hype behind them and it's their first TV show. NXT is already established and people know what it is and that it's going to still be there. I think the numbers will get much closer together over the next couple months though.
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A-E-DUB! A-E-DUB! A-E-DUB!
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But coming in, I couldn't see a show with the WWE brand behind it being beaten in the ratings by any other wrestling show. Much less beaten handily. Congrats AEW. Don't screw the pooch. |
Before NXT announced they were gonna go head-to-head with them, I thought 1 million would be a good number. They got 1.4 million WITH NXT eating into the number. That's pretty crazy.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">From multiple sources:<br><br>The debut episode of All Elite Wrestling did 109,000 viewers on TSN 2. <br><br>Was described to me as a good number. <br><br>The premiere also went against the Leafs vs. Senators game in Canada.</p>— John Pollock (@iamjohnpollock) <a href="https://twitter.com/iamjohnpollock/status/1179869425127886864?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 3, 2019</a></blockquote>
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That number isn’t shocking at all. If they’re getting 63k domestic PPV buys and that’s about 5% of the audience, then that’s 1.4 million. I expected them to eventually land on that number, but expected them to start stronger.
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I've always been curious how age demographics are calculated. If someone could enlighten me I would be most appreciative.
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The part that might worry Vince more isn't AEW vs NXT ratings..It's AEW vs RAW ratings. AEW was only about 800,000 below what RAW gets at it's worst lately
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WWE has essentially lost (during most weeks, myself included,) a lot of their own audience through years of repetitive awful writing and booking. Those folks know what they're going to get from WWE, Vince & Co., and over 95% of it is going to be garbage.
Some of those folks (who are still wrestling fans) probably turned into AEW. Then you have those WWE viewers who stuck with the awful WWE product more often than not but who also still aren't really enjoying WWE and likely feel like WWE's product is garbage but watch WWE out of habit and/or because nothing better is on. Then you also have wrestling fans who will watch whatever wrestling they can find. If, and in fairness, that's a BIG IF, but if AEW can build on what they did on Wednesday, they can slowly steal some (and maybe more and more) WWE viewers, and also bring in some new viewers as well. |
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Then from there its just finding out what those people watched each day and plugging the data into equations to get the projected numbers and demo breakdowns. When I got contacted to do it a few years ago, mine was book based instead of devices connected to every tv in the house. Was used for some other ratings stuff they tracked. |
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">‘All Elite Wrestling: Dynamite’ Is TNT’s Biggest Broadcast Premiere In Five Years <a href="https://t.co/O7OyCzWDj6">https://t.co/O7OyCzWDj6</a> <a href="https://t.co/EmFZzAwaHZ">pic.twitter.com/EmFZzAwaHZ</a></p>— Deadline Hollywood (@DEADLINE) <a href="https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1179878560732860416?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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very curious to see what Smackdown does tonight. They've been doing the "bring back past superstars for years" but this time they've marketed the fuck out of it. Apparently there is a big ring outside the Fox building in NYC this morning. and I've seen ads everywhere.
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They somehow got 5 million for the last Raw anniversary show they did. I’d imagine this has to garner more than that.
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Fox has been pushing it on every show possible including football, baseball, masked singer etc.
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I think between 3 - 4 million
Friday is a bad night for TV and judging from Twitter, people who aren't already fans of WWE don't seem very interested |
I am going to tune into my first WWE show in half a year or so.
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So that means there will be at least 1 viewer.
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Live TV Ratings for SmackDownon FOX are in
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Bit surprised it was that high and also almost managed to double last week's number.
Next week is probably going to drop but not that badly due to the Draft but after that, wouldn't be surprised if SD hits a RAW 25/Reunion level drop. |
The show had Rock advertised and it is pretty big that they are going to FOX. I think they did a better than usual job of using their stars to hook people. Rock put over Becky Lynch. Owens fired Shane. Tyson Fury and Cain Velasquez are now “in-universe.” Roman and Bryan looked good as babyfaces.
They may not drop as much as they normally do. |
I gotta wonder if Raw's rating gets a bump
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Rock's not going to be back anytime soon, so what does it really matter. I don't give a fuck about the rest, and why should or would I or anyone else, because none of it will matter in 2-4 weeks time with Vince in charge. Roman and Bryan looked good... so what? Two guys who have essentially been the focus and booked to "look good" as headliners for the last 4-5 years now are still the focus. Wooo. Real exciting game changing stuff there. This company is a joke. All I can do is laugh at how pathetic it's become. :lol: |
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damnit I wanted those numbers lower >_<
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Lower than last week's "season premiere" which makes sense but higher than 2 weeks ago which shouldn't have been the case based on the abysmal effort WWE gave even by their standards.
They got really lucky last night's NFL game was a dud in terms of competitiveness and didn't drive away more of their audience from the Cell's terrible ending. |
Morbid curiosity.
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Yep. There’s a chunk in that figure that just wanted to see what WWE would do following the reaction to HIAC.
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Both AEW and NXT got hammered this week in ratings although NXT's overall drop was less severe in terms of viewership.
AEW got 1.018 million viewers and a #8 ranking while NXT got 790k and a #27 ranking. |
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AEW - .46 NXT - .22 |
Interesting enough, 0.01 of a point in that demo in either direction could have swung NXT as high as #19 and as low as #31 for the night.
AEW wouldn't have been able to swing up but would have dropped down by just 1 spot had the same happened to them. |
Some more numbers stuff:
AEW on TruTv managed to snag around 122k viewers and a #126 ranking putting the overall live total at 1.14 million. AEW also managed to grow from 109.0 last week to 153.0 this week on TSN for Canada. NXT doesn't air on Wednesdays in Canada. <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">More <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ratings?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ratings</a> news for those who enjoy <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ratings?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ratings</a> news.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> drew a 153.0 in week number two on Canadian television. Up from 109.0 in week one. As more fans see expanded promotion, it only makes sense that those numbers will continue to climb. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEW?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEW</a></p>— Kevin Michie (@KevinMichie) <a href="https://twitter.com/KevinMichie/status/1182374326177320961?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 10, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> NXT suffered another big demo drop across the board except for the 50+ crowd which actually went up. It was also the only demo that did better than AEW's show for a second week in a row. <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">digging into the demos for NXT, yikes: they were down 30% across the board except for......50+, where they were UP 11%. without the boomer rescue squad the drop would have been way worse</p>— john (@toshanshuinLA) <a href="https://twitter.com/toshanshuinLA/status/1182389911682461696?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 10, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NXT losing in 18-49 viewers to FOX News is tragic <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NXT?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NXT</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWE</a> <a href="https://t.co/M8sFU3l9Lw">https://t.co/M8sFU3l9Lw</a></p>— Kenton (@Kenton_la) <a href="https://twitter.com/Kenton_la/status/1182396832443486208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 10, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Although there's no way to know this for sure, I'm willing to bet that the young demos fro NXT are higher, but they probably catch it on the WWE Network at their discretion, as opposed to going out of their way to operate a TV in 2019. I'm sure many of them are checking out AEW on Wednesday, where it primarily airs, getting more than their fair share of wrestling, then using the app to watch NXT if they are so inclined the next day or whenever they get a chance.
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Darby Allin vs. Jimmy Havoc was the big loser from this week's Dynamite, dropping 196,000 viewers. The end of The Young Bucks vs. Private Party and the Jericho promo also hurt them by about 44,000. The women's tag picked up a lot, and Moxley and the main event also gained viewers.
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USA gave WWE around $50 million total under the assumption it would generate numbers they were doing on Wednesdays and this week was below that number. |
I don't think it's wise they have NXT on the Network so soon after, for the record.
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If they want to do something for the Network on Thursday, do NXT Plus like AEW Dark. Or blatantly start doing a WWE studio show. Take one of the ideas that is working. Maybe just get the talent that aren't drafted and throw them on something. I probably wouldn't watch, but Cesaro vs. Chad Gable in a vacuum is probably better than what either of them is currently doing.
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