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Kris P Lettus 12-21-2007 01:04 PM

I figured his record speaks for it self..

Stickman 12-21-2007 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus (Post 1974746)
I figured his record speaks for it self..

He's fighting that Hong Man Choi guy or whatever his name is. So does his record really mean much if he doesnt' fight anybody in the Top Ten?

Kris P Lettus 12-21-2007 01:09 PM

Yeah, Muhamed Ali isn't planning on fighting any ranked fighters in the future, so he can't be one of the greatest of all time..

That makes sense..

Reavant 12-21-2007 03:42 PM

we all knew his record, everyone can see it. Everyone says hes the best. i just figured you could add to the statement with something interesting like an interview or a video or really anything at all. I guess I was mistaken.

Reavant 12-21-2007 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stickman (Post 1974749)
He's fighting that Hong Man Choi guy or whatever his name is. So does his record really mean much if he doesnt' fight anybody in the Top Ten?

Just because your the best doesnt mean you have to fight number one contenders everytime. He slaughters everyone he faces. Even his decision victories were complete bowouts. The guy has fought the best guys that were available to him and killed them.

Sometimes you have to build up a ighter by giving him inferior opponents to sharpen their game. For example having Fedor fight an expert striker to see how he performs or to fight an expert grappler. The goal to sharpen their skills and make them a more complete fighter. If those opponents are too good at their area, chances are Fedor would be able to take the fight to the area that the oponent is at hi weakest like the ground for the striker or staying standing against a grappler.

Look at Wanderlei Silva's record. He faught a mixture of cans and tough competition his entire career which buit him up to the grea fighter he is now.

Reavant 12-21-2007 03:55 PM

and before someone says "why woud he need to do that hes already the best blah blah"... theres always someone out there thats better or at the very least have what it takes to beat the top dog and you need to constantly sharpen and refine your game so that you are ready for opponents like that.

Kris P Lettus 12-21-2007 11:05 PM

I didn't really want to get into a "Why Fedor is considered one of the best" discussions but OK.. I was just letting Ant know who he was.. Anyway, every fight I've ever seen of his has been super exciting.. I think the fact that he doesn't look dominant yet is intrigues me.. Like, he looks like a normal guy with a little beer gut and all but is a beast in the ring.. I don't think I've ever seen him gas.. He has amazing composure even when he is seemingly "losing" (he never seems to freak out when bloody or in a bad ground position).. He has crazy ground control and agility for a bigger guy.. And he is one of the best strikers and has quick hands for any weightclass but specially for heavyweight..

I think him vs Couture will be great but I think Fedor will take it, specially if they stayed on their feet..

Reavant 12-22-2007 03:00 AM

there ya go :D

McLegend 12-22-2007 11:02 AM

Floyd Mayweather thinking about getting into Mark Cuban's MMA promotion

Kris P Lettus 12-22-2007 01:54 PM

Floyd Mayweather is a piece of shit..

Reavant 12-22-2007 02:34 PM

id love to see him in mma...



























































maybe then he would shut up

Kris P Lettus 12-22-2007 05:08 PM

Just stumbled across this:

http://www.mmarocks.pl/wp-content/up..._83udfslf3.JPG

Rob 12-24-2007 05:48 AM

Mayweather wouldn't last 2 minutes in a MMA fight.

Reavant 12-24-2007 10:31 AM

hes just doing it for leverage in getting more money in another fight. hes not going to fight in mma.

Stickman 12-24-2007 12:44 PM

Kripsy's comment on how Fedor is a normal looking dude who kicks as is pretty bang on.

I do think right now Couture takes it though. He just seems to be in the right frame of mind.

Reavant 12-24-2007 02:31 PM

Fedor came in at the top level at the time and got better as the sport began to develop. Randy came in as a great wrestler that was good but not the best and has rose exponentially to the point he is now.

CSL 12-25-2007 09:47 AM

How long's Dave Meltzer been writing for Yahoo?

Rob 12-25-2007 01:27 PM

A few months.

Kris P Lettus 12-28-2007 01:24 PM

UFC® 79 NEMESIS


<table id="FightCardPrint" class="data_table" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <thead> <tr> <th>Name</th> <th>Height</th> <th>Weight</th> <th>Record</th> <th> </th> <th>Name</th> <th>Height</th> <th>Weight</th> <th>Record</th> </tr> </thead> <tfoot> </tfoot> <tbody> <tr class="data_row_alt"> <td>Matt Hughes</td> <td>5' 9" (175 cm)</td> <td>170</td> <td>43-5-0</td> <td style="padding: 0pt; text-align: center;">http://www.ufc.com/images/events_vs.gif</td> <td>Georges St-Pierre</td> <td>5' 10" (178 cm)</td> <td>170</td> <td>14-2-0</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td>Chuck Liddell</td> <td>6' 2" (188 cm)</td> <td>205</td> <td>20-5-0</td> <td style="padding: 0pt; text-align: center;">http://www.ufc.com/images/events_vs.gif</td> <td>Wanderlei Silva</td> <td>5' 11" (180 cm)</td> <td>205</td> <td>31-7-1</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row_alt"> <td>Lyoto Machida</td> <td>6' 1" (185 cm)</td> <td>205</td> <td>11-0-0</td> <td style="padding: 0pt; text-align: center;">http://www.ufc.com/images/events_vs.gif</td> <td>Rameau Sokoudjou</td> <td>6' 0" (183 cm)</td> <td>205</td> <td>4-1-0</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td>Rich Clementi</td> <td>5' 9" (175 cm)</td> <td>155</td> <td>37-12-1</td> <td style="padding: 0pt; text-align: center;">http://www.ufc.com/images/events_vs.gif</td> <td>Melvin Guillard</td> <td>5' 9" (175 cm)</td> <td>155</td> <td>39-7-3</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row_alt"> <td>Soa Palelei</td> <td>6' 4" (193 cm)</td> <td>265</td> <td>8-1-0</td> <td style="padding: 0pt; text-align: center;">http://www.ufc.com/images/events_vs.gif</td> <td>Eddie Sanchez</td> <td>6' 2" (188 cm)</td> <td>230</td> <td>9-1-0</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td>Luiz Cane</td> <td>6' 2" (188 cm)</td> <td>205</td> <td>8-0-0</td> <td style="padding: 0pt; text-align: center;">http://www.ufc.com/images/events_vs.gif</td> <td>James Irvin</td> <td>6' 2" (188 cm)</td> <td>205</td> <td>12-4-1</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row_alt"> <td>Nate Mohr</td> <td>5' 9" (175 cm)</td> <td>155</td> <td>8-4-0</td> <td style="padding: 0pt; text-align: center;">http://www.ufc.com/images/events_vs.gif</td> <td>Manny Gamburyan</td> <td>5' 5" (165 cm)</td> <td>155</td> <td>5-3-0</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td>Jordan Radev</td> <td>5' 7" (170 cm)</td> <td>185</td> <td>16-2-0</td> <td style="padding: 0pt; text-align: center;">http://www.ufc.com/images/events_vs.gif</td> <td>Dean Lister</td> <td>6' 1" (185 cm)</td> <td>185</td> <td>9-5-0</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row_alt"> <td>Roan Carneiro</td> <td>5' 9" (175 cm)</td> <td>170</td> <td>11-6-0</td> <td style="padding: 0pt; text-align: center;">http://www.ufc.com/images/events_vs.gif</td> <td>Tony DeSouza</td> <td>6' 1" (185 cm)</td> <td>170</td> <td>10-3-0</td> </tr> <tr class="data_row"> <td>Mark Bocek</td> <td>5' 8" (173 cm)</td> <td>155</td> <td>4-1-0</td> <td style="padding: 0pt; text-align: center;">http://www.ufc.com/images/events_vs.gif</td> <td>Doug Evans</td> <td>5' 9" (175 cm)</td> <td>155</td> <td>6-1-0</td> </tr> </tbody> </table>

Can't wait for tomorrow night..

Reavant 12-28-2007 01:51 PM

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Reavant 12-28-2007 01:51 PM

His training is pure madness

Kris P Lettus 12-28-2007 01:57 PM

I respect him as a fighter, but I hate how he has a gang of faggots who run out a massage his greasy body after every fight..

Reavant 12-28-2007 02:07 PM

lol that was chute box

Reavant 12-28-2007 02:10 PM

on an unrelated note..... this is the funniest shit ive ever seen!
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Kris P Lettus 12-28-2007 03:54 PM

LOL

I hate his big slow ass too..

Jamstar 12-28-2007 08:40 PM

Cmon GSP & Cmon THE ICEMAN !!! :y:

Rob 12-28-2007 10:13 PM

That's my two big picks as well.

Fox 12-28-2007 10:28 PM

As much as I love the Iceman, I'm afraid he's on a decline and that Silva, in his first UFC fight in 7 years, is going to take this one by TKO.

Kris P Lettus 12-28-2007 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamstar (Post 1981056)
Cmon GSP & Cmon THE ICEMAN !!! :y:

werd

Kris P Lettus 12-28-2007 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox (Post 1981134)
first UFC fight in 7 years

Does that really matter??

It's arguable but it could be said he was fighting better fighters in Pride than he would have been in UFC.. (which I believe)

I mean in those seven years he was fighting the likes of Dangerous Dan Henderson, Sakuraba, Rampage, Guy Mezger, Mark Hunt, Fajita, Cro Cop, etc etc etc..

Other than Couture, Tito, and Liddell what "big money" match has he missed out on??

Reavant 12-29-2007 04:08 AM

I got GSP and Wand

Rob 12-29-2007 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus (Post 1981189)
Does that really matter??

It's arguable but it could be said he was fighting better fighters in Pride than he would have been in UFC.. (which I believe)

I mean in those seven years he was fighting the likes of Dangerous Dan Henderson, Sakuraba, Rampage, Guy Mezger, Mark Hunt, Fajita, Cro Cop, etc etc etc..

Other than Couture, Tito, and Liddell what "big money" match has he missed out on??

It matters because every Pride star has failed in the UFC since the buy out. Also because he was allowed to take whatever drugs he wanted to in Japan and can't in the States. He had great competition in Pride but also had his share of cans.

Also - Fajita made me laugh.

Reavant 12-29-2007 04:29 PM

Yea but a lot of Liddel's matches were way of 2 win rematches. Most coming off of KOs the first time. He knocked out randy, tito, and babalu in that fasion and thats all in 25 fights. Other than Sakuraba and Rampage, Wanderlei faught different people every fight with barely any 2 win rematches for 39 fights. Its hard to keep a successful streak like he had fighting all different kinds of opponents and fighting styles without getting caught a couple of times.

Kris P Lettus 12-29-2007 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 1981947)

Also - Fajita made me laugh.

I like Fajita.. He made Shamrock submit by allowing Ken to punch him in the head until he was gassed..

I just found out I'm prolly not watching the PPV tonight..

:(

Rob 12-29-2007 07:26 PM

Fujita?

Kris P Lettus 12-29-2007 07:41 PM

Yes..

In 2000 at Pride 10.. I just saw it on the FSN Pride show a few years back..

Shamrock gave him everything he had and I believe late in the second round (with the Pride 10 minute first), Shamrock was completely gassed and Fujita just kept coming and Shamrocks corner threw in the towel..

Fox 12-29-2007 07:56 PM

Is there usually a UFC PPV thread during the event? I don't think I've ever been on here for one before.

Kris P Lettus 12-29-2007 08:13 PM

No..

This is the all purpose MMA thread so 95% of all MMA discussion happens in here.. Even TUF discussion..

Kris P Lettus 12-29-2007 08:14 PM

I wanted us to have an entire forum..

:(

Kris P Lettus 12-29-2007 08:26 PM

Does anyone know a site that does good play by play for PPV's??

Crimson 12-29-2007 08:28 PM

Myspace forums.. :shifty:

Crimson 12-29-2007 08:29 PM

Or mma weekly updates after each fight i think

Rob 12-29-2007 08:30 PM

Did you ask if I knew a site streaming the show? :shifty:

Kris P Lettus 12-29-2007 08:31 PM

I did in my thread bitching about not being able to watch it in casual..

Please??

Kris P Lettus 12-29-2007 08:32 PM

PM me

Rob 12-29-2007 08:36 PM

No :shifty:

Crimson 12-29-2007 08:38 PM

I'm fuckin pumped..watchin the football game , gettin ready for the fights to start..does it get any better for a guy? Oh yea just some strippers.

Rob 12-29-2007 08:55 PM

Strippers this way please.

Y2Ant 12-29-2007 09:31 PM

Sweet we get it for free on Bravo tomorrow night at 9. I'll probably find out who wins before then though :o

What Would Kevin Do? 12-29-2007 09:43 PM

You know, someone should PM me this streaming site that doesn't exist too.

Kris P Lettus 12-29-2007 10:01 PM

It's not working..

Kris P Lettus 12-29-2007 10:43 PM

:(

Rob 12-29-2007 10:50 PM

Soku got fucking humbled!

So did that retard Melvin earlier and Clementi just became my favourite fighter with his celebrations.

Rob 12-29-2007 11:56 PM

Sanchez got a 3rd round KO. Boring ass shit.

Liddell dominates round 1. Silva gets better of first 3mins of 2nd but Liddell back super strong. Close round. 3rd is all Liddell standing and Silva looks like shit. I have it 30-28 to Liddell.

Rob 12-29-2007 11:57 PM

It's 29-28, 30-27 twice for Liddell.

Rob 12-30-2007 12:22 AM

GSP vs. Hughes.

Round 1 - Hughes comes out fighting southpaw to get better chance at the takedown. Doesn't work. GSP blocks takedown, gets his own, batters Hughes against the cage in his guard and eventually moves to full mount and nearly hits a rolling arm bar to win but the round ends. 10-9 GSP.

Rob 12-30-2007 12:27 AM

GSP wins late second round arm bar, Fucking well tight. TOTAL domination. Up until then it was much of the same of the first. GSP took him down at will, dominated the ground, took whatever position he wanted and then nearly ripped his arm off his body.

GSP does a spinarooni celebration!

Rob 12-30-2007 12:31 AM

GSP also just threw down the interim title and says Serra is the real champion. Total class.

Rob 12-30-2007 12:35 AM

They are showing Gamburyan vs. Moor now. Manny wins in 90 seconds so I'm off to bed. It will be on UFC.com in a bit anyway with the rest of the prelims.

Kris P Lettus 12-30-2007 01:19 AM

WOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Fignuts 12-30-2007 01:26 AM

Fuck, all my fav pride guys are, or are beginning to become washed up.

HeartBreakMan2k 12-30-2007 05:59 AM

Hughes :(

(Yeah fuck you guys, I'm sad he lost. :( I like GSP but have been a Hughes fan forever.)

Vastardikai 12-30-2007 08:27 AM

Random Nemesis Crap:

* Clementi busted out a Full Nelson with a Body Scissors. and the hatred was awesome. Fuck Melvin, btw.
* Sokudouju = ANOTHER Pride flop. Or, Machida fucked him up.
* Palelei vs. Sanchez was a piece of shit. Me and my buddy tapped watching that fight.
* Liddell vs. Vanderlei was epic. Chuck won decisively, but he busted out takedowns, which was a shock. We forgot about the snore-fest before.
* GSP > You. My arm hurt.
* Manny probably broke Mohr's leg. And he felt bad about it. Owww...
* Lines of the Night: "Have you ever heard of training Jiu Jitsu, Melvin?" -Clementi & "Tap Tap TAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP!!!!" -Hughes.

Crimson 12-30-2007 12:03 PM

lol I didn't know they had I quit matches in the UFC. Hughes couldn't tap so he had to scream it out..awesome.

Kris P Lettus 12-30-2007 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeartBreakKid2k (Post 1982701)
Hughes :(

(Yeah fuck you guys, I'm sad he lost. :( I like GSP but have been a Hughes fan forever.)

Hughes is a retarded redneck piece of shit..

Rob 12-30-2007 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crimson (Post 1982792)
lol I didn't know they had I quit matches in the UFC. Hughes couldn't tap so he had to scream it out..awesome.

He could have tapped. He just verbally quit.

Reavant 12-30-2007 05:21 PM

Hughes was beat like a child.... And fuckin Wanderlei. He didnt look aggressive at all and he let chuck stand up from the ground twice. He never does that. Maybe the motivation isnt there for him anymore now that hes not fighting to keep food on his plate anymore.

Jamstar 12-30-2007 05:24 PM

hughes v gsp

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...deoID=25000450

sodu v mach

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...deoid=24987153

liddel v silva

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...deoID=24992671

Kris P Lettus 12-30-2007 05:57 PM

:love:

It's cool as fuck that Zuffa puts them online..

Jamstar 12-30-2007 06:07 PM

guillard vs clementi

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...deoid=24982360

Rob 12-30-2007 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reavant (Post 1983101)
Hughes was beat like a child.... And fuckin Wanderlei. He didnt look aggressive at all and he let chuck stand up from the ground twice. He never does that. Maybe the motivation isnt there for him anymore now that hes not fighting to keep food on his plate anymore.

I dunno he looked okay in the second round and looked well up for the fight before. He isn't in his comfort zone anymore.

Innovator 12-30-2007 06:37 PM

Man Wanderlei has a fucking chin. I thought a couple times that he was going to go the way of Tito and get pounded out in the cage.

Also GSP had his way with Hughes, 9 minutes of imposing his will.

Reavant 12-30-2007 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 1983153)
I dunno he looked okay in the second round and looked well up for the fight before. He isn't in his comfort zone anymore.

well yea he def. looked uncomfortable but the only time he opened up and swung was when he was getting rocked against the cage. He used to just throw and throw and throw without stopping before. Maybe he should have had someone else as his first opponent. People can say hes not on roids or whatever but he could have been on everything possible and he still would have lost that fight because he didnt do anything.

Kris P Lettus 12-30-2007 09:37 PM

Wanderlei Silva's "Comfort Zone" is another man's anus, for the record..

Rob 12-30-2007 11:09 PM

You can tell him that.

Reavant 12-31-2007 03:57 AM

:nono:

Danny Electric 12-31-2007 07:50 PM

George Rushhhhhhhhhhh St Pierre

Affliction tee in the post :)

Blitz 01-01-2008 06:09 PM

I love GSP.

Rob 01-02-2008 07:41 PM

Who doesn't?

I'm still taking Serra for the upset though :D

weather vane 01-02-2008 07:52 PM

GSP is a fag.

Rob 01-03-2008 09:28 AM

1 - You'd get whooped by the fag.

2 - He is banging Rachelle Leah.

Danny Electric 01-03-2008 09:42 AM

who's she?

Rob 01-03-2008 10:17 AM

www.rachelleleah.com

Dave Youell 01-03-2008 10:56 AM

So say Serra was out for another 6 months, would GSP have to defend the interim title he threw down?

Innovator 01-03-2008 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 1987347)
1 - You'd get whooped by the fag.

2 - He is banging Rachelle Leah.

Wow.....just makes GSP even more of the man

weather vane 01-04-2008 02:41 AM

GSP is a huge fag. I would beat the piss out of him.

Kris P Lettus 01-06-2008 12:41 PM

LOL Spilchuk

Crimson 01-06-2008 12:51 PM

What..GSP is banging Leah? Burkman was bangin Arianny for awhile,maybe still. I liked the blonde one ..she likes to get banged

weather vane 01-06-2008 01:13 PM

I am going to go to the next PPV and call out GSP. I am sick of his lies.

Rob 01-09-2008 05:49 PM

Any news from your boy Arlovski Reavant?

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Kris P Lettus 01-11-2008 10:34 AM

What??

Dave Youell 01-11-2008 11:11 AM

Party round that guys house!

Reavant 01-11-2008 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 1995134)
Any news from your boy Arlovski Reavant?

he was in jamaca over new years but hes in bellarus right now because his grandma died. He was told that they were trying to get him in the febuary or march cards against kongo or cro cop, but he doesnt know if his contract has been sealed up yet.

Crimson 01-12-2008 12:30 AM

Ok..Brock Lesnar needs to come out to his wwe theme music..that'd kick ass

Reavant 01-12-2008 12:57 AM

if i dont see at least the attempt at an F-5 ima be a little pissed

Rob 01-14-2008 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reavant (Post 1997368)
he was in jamaca over new years but hes in bellarus right now because his grandma died. He was told that they were trying to get him in the febuary or march cards against kongo or cro cop, but he doesnt know if his contract has been sealed up yet.

About 5 seconds, after I posted my thing, I heard from a very reliable source that whether his contract gets signed or not, he is fighting Cro Cop in London in March.

Rob 01-14-2008 10:26 AM

Scrap that last post, they are fighting in Manchester in March.

Reavant 01-14-2008 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 2000866)
About 5 seconds, after I posted my thing, I heard from a very reliable source that whether his contract gets signed or not, he is fighting Cro Cop in London in March.

i havnt seen him since b4 new years so ii couldnt tell ya if its true or not. If it is, i hope he beats the shit out of him so he has some leverage to bargain.

Kris P Lettus 01-14-2008 06:46 PM

Are they fighting at 205 or heavyweight??


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