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11-18-2012 11:17 AM |
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Originally Posted by Cool King
(Post 4033716)
There's no need to call up the women from NXT. The WWE wouldn't be in the situation they're in with the Divas Division if they actually used more than just two Divas at a time.
The Divas Division has AJ, Aksana, Alicia Fox, Cameron, Eve, Kaitlyn, Layla, Naomi, Natalya, Rosa and Tamina. They had Beth Phoenix but now she's gone. They have those Divas but do absolutely nothing positive with the majority of them.
As much as I hate AJ, I can't ignore the fact that she can actually wrestle, she's not diabolically bad or anything like that, but for a long time she was just a valet for Daniel Bryan and then near the end of her valet days, she just spent her time in a neck brace pulling puppy dog eyes. She then became GM of Raw and did a whole lot of mic time and now she just gets into shouting matches with Vickie Guerrero. Why not just throw her in the ring.
Aksana was great as Cesaro's valet and I don't know why it was ended. Especially so suddenly and over just one match that Cesaro lost. The WWE can, and I think they are, working on Aksana more and giving her more training, so why not use her in the future?
Alicia Fox is actually pretty good in the ring and if the WWE stop changing her from heel to face then face to heel constantly, people might actually give a fuck about her. I think her time as Diva's Champion was alright, but now, she serves as just a jobber in the division.
Cameron can just remain as a valet. I've never seen her in a match and I don't even know if she's even had a match before, but if not, give her some training and then see where she goes.
Eve, Kaitlyn and Laya are the centre of the Divas universe right now and I like that Kaitlyn is actually being used. It was stupid having the winner of NXT Season 3 do fuck all and the woman who came third, basically get the treatment of a winner of the season. All three women are good but having them all be involved with each other is not so good. Introduce a forth Diva and then two of them break off into their own feud with each other then it'll give the division a "sense of expansion".
Naomi, the runner-up of NXT Season 3 can be thrown into the ring. Hell, why not make her the forth Diva of what I've said? Though saying that, she would have to turn heel, I guess.
Natalya is easily the best wrestler in the Divas Division by far, but for some reason, the WWE can't see this and instead, have her go from being a valet for The Hart Dynasty, to a two month reign as champion, to constantly farting, to jobbing and I've not watched this weeks SmackDown, but it looks like she might start dating The Great Khali. There's times where it actually annoys me that the WWE do this to her. Especially during the whole "Kelly Kelly Era" where her face was plastered everywhere and she was given constant matches and even the Divas Championship, even though she was pretty shit in the ring, while Beth and Natalya jobbed and farted. Natalya is probably the reason why that news of introducing NXT women is annoying me a bit. The have fucking Natalya and they're still sitting there basically wondering "Hmm, how do we make the Divas Division better?". The answer is right in front of them.
Rosa is a fantastic valet, as she's proved that with Epico & Primo, but it looks like she'll be leaving them for Del Rio, maybe. From what I remember of her time in the ring, she wasn't terrible but she wasn't great too. More matches, mean more training and I actually wouldn't mind seeing her in more matches.
My Tamina views are pretty much the same as my Natalya one, but not as "passionate". She's really good in the ring and more involvement from her would be interesting to see. I don't know why she isn't currently being used for anything. It's like she's disappeared.
So overall, to me, I don't see why there is thought of calling up NXT women. Not when you've got a division that all women, but one, can actually put on a match to some extent. They all have a least some experience in the ring and in front of a usual WWE crowd. The WWE have the answers to their problem, but they just aren't using them.
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Originally Posted by Tom Guycott
(Post 4033729)
@Cool King:
True, but they may be looking back to the days where they had 8 on 8 Divas tag matches and only 3 of them got any ringtime... one being in there only to break up the first pin attempt. They want to return the division to such dizzying heights!
And in general, the "answer to the solution" is pretty often right in front of them. On a lot of things. For example, if they lose a major heel to injury, they won't be like "Okay, Dolph: step up!" and then prop someone up to be in Dolph's position, they'll try to build a guy out of nowhere and likely have it blow up in their face because he got a huge reaction ONE TIME and sucks ass subsequently while leapfrogging Dolph and making him disgruntled about it. Then, say, Ziggles gets sick of that shit and walks away... now they have an injured heel, a guy who quit, and a prospect that didn't work out and they'll scratch their heads going "oh, what the fuck do we do now?" instead of taking the path of least resistance.
I believe what Heyman said about Punk on the DVD is true of a lot of talent WWE aquires: that get tremendous buzz, but WWE doesn't see what to do with them. They just keep them around so that they aren't making money for someone else. They can't keep crying that they want to rebuild the Diva's division, yet keep driving away talent like a Beth Phoenix or a Gail Kim with lack of use.
You can say "people don't care about women's wrestling" all you want, but if WWE really wanted to make people care and got behind it, people would care BECAUSE WWE got behind it and made people care. TNA proved that shit could work. WWE even proved that shit could work when they brought in Kong and everyone in the arenas went nuts not because she was hot or anything-we know she would NEVER be a Maxim Girl- but because they wanted to see her kill bitches in a gladatorial feeding frenzy. And she was supposed to be coming in as a monster heel. Unfortunate her life took the turn it did. But even if it didn't... how long would that run have last? I mean, who's to say they wouldn't have shelved her in a couple months and put her in the same boat of disuse that Natty and Tamina seem to "enjoy" right now?
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Originally Posted by Noid
(Post 4033750)
I mapped out a plan for the Divas Division one day when I felt like thinking about it, and here is what I came up with:
* The Vickie Guerrero vs. AJ Lee angle makes perfect sense. As far as female personalities go, you don't get a face/heel combo that clash just as well as Vickie and AJ. The WWE should have booked Team Vickie vs. Team AJ at Survivor Series.
* AJ Lee approaches Kaitlyn backstage and asks her to be a member of Team AJ. They've had problems in the past, but they both hate Vickie. Kaitlyn agrees, but just because she hates Vickie. Eve Torres offers to captain Team Vickie, because "It will be an honor to work with you, Miss Guerrero." Natalya forces AJ Lee to submit to the Sharpshooter after stretching her into an ungodly position, and Eve & Vickie offer her a spot on the team.
* During an AJ Lee/Kaitlyn vs. Eve/Natalya tag team match, Layla runs down to ringside and shoves Eve off the top rope, allowing Kaitlyn to sneak a pin off the Divas Champion. She has a microphone and announces that she will be part of "Team AJ" at Survivor Series.
* Vickie and Eve announce that Aksana will be part of their team, but then also have a plan. They announce (using Vickie's managing supervisor powers) that Kaitlyn and Layla will face off, with the winner being the #1 Contender for Eve's Divas Title. AJ Lee begs them not to let their egos get in the way of their team at Survivor Series, but it's clear that both Kaitlyn and Layla want to be the champion. Eve appears to Kaitlyn backstage and tells her that while it was her that got the title shot at Night of Champions when Kaitlyn was attacked -- who really stood to benefit from Kaitlyn being out? It was Layla, who was the champion after all. Kaitlyn gives this a think.
* Kaitlyn defeats Layla to become the #1 Contender for the Divas Title when Eve comes out and shoves Layla off the top rope as a receipt for what Layla did to her. Kaitlyn scores the pin and is the new #1 Contender, as Layla looks visibly bummed.
* AJ Lee tries to keep things steady between her team, and Kaitlyn agrees as long as Layla stays out of her match tonight, as Vickie announces that Tamina Snuka will be on her team at Survivor Series. AJ approaches Naomi backstage, and says that they know and respect each other from NXT, and that AJ can give Naomi the opportunity to show her stuff to the WWE Universe at Survivor Series. Naomi agrees and joins Team AJ.
* Kaitlyn and Eve Torres work the best possible match they can for the Divas Title, but Layla appears on the stage. Eve is all smiles, thinking that she has planted the seeds of dissent effectively. Kaitlyn is upset, and Eve thinks things are going her way, when Layla helps out Kaitlyn to roll-up Eve and win the title. Eve is horrified, and Kaitlyn & Layla celebrate together as it is clear that they have played Eve and Vickie.
* Alicia Fox offers to join Team Vickie, and Vickie tells Alicia that she remembers her. "You ruined my wedding!" Alicia tells Vickie that's in the past, and Vickie tells Alicia to get off her show. "You're banned from RAW!" An obviously upset Alicia Fox becomes "SmackDown exclusive" and makes a promise to Booker T to make SmackDown as "interesting" as she can. Alicia adopts a gimmick where she uses her sexual prowess to put on "shows" for the WWE Universe, pushing the PG limits as far as they will go. Alicia is added as the fifth member of Team AJ, although the other girls seem to disagree with Alicia's "Attitude era" antics. Vickie keeps the final member of her team a secret.
* To cause as much dysfunction as possible, Vickie books one last match before Survivor Series -- Kaitlyn vs. Layla for the Divas Championship. In that match, Eve costs Kaitlyn the bout, and her Divas Title reign is a short one, with Layla being the unwitting beneficiary of heel support.
* At Survivor Series, Kharma is revealed to be the final member of Team Vickie. AJ Lee, being the captain, offers to start in the ring with her. She tries her little heart out, but she's no match for Kharma. They go about ten minutes, with no one else tagging in. Eventually, the noble Naomi is all "Fuck this!" and tags herself in off a beaten AJ. Naomi throws everything she has at Kharma, and gets her off on her feet. This seems to inspire a combined Divas effort, and the babyfaces work together to try and take out Kharma. Things break down for a bit, and Layla and Naomi do some funking out together. Aksana tags herself in off the reeling Kharma, but runs into some double-team moves. Alicia Fox hits a Scissors Kick on Aksana to eliminate her. As Fox is celebrating, Kharma takes her head off with a clothesline and pins her after hitting an Implant Buster.
Layla comes off the top rope, but she is caught by Kharma, and then hit with a Michinoku Driver. Kharma hits her with a Sit-Down Powerbomb, and the Divas Champion is eliminated early. AJ Lee gets in the ring and tries to wear down Kharma, but Kharma flattens her out. Eve wants in on AJ. Vickie demands Kharma tag her in. "You want that contract, you tag her in!" Kharma looks annoyed, but she puts her head down and tags in Eve, who arrogantly prances around the ring. Kharma is on the apron, but slowly recovering Layla and Alicia Fox each grab a leg of her and pull her off the apron. AJ then makes a comeback on Eve, and there is no Kharma to tag. Natalya, however, comes in and locks the Sharpshooter on AJ. Kaitlyn breaks it up, and AJ tags in Kaitlyn who cleans house on Natalya. Tamina comes in and Kaitlyn is laid out with a Samoan drop. Tamina goes up for a Superfly Splash, but Naomi pulls Kaitlyn out of the way. A Running Powerslam later and Tamina is eliminated.
Kharma is ordered to get in there with Kaitlyn, and although Kaitlyn fights, she eventually succumbs to another Sit-Down Powerbomb. Naomi now enters against Kharma, but she is overpowered. Eve blind-tags herself in off Kharma, however, and Eve is the one who finishes off Naomi with a Neckbreaker. A pissed off Kharma gets back in the ring and hits Eve with an Implant Buster. Vickie is screaming "NOOOOO!" and a beaten and stretched out AJ Lee enters and covers Eve for the three count. Kharma walks to the back as Natalya and AJ are left as the final two. AJ is at a clear disadvantage as Natalya controls the pace. AJ makes a heroic comeback, however, but just as it looks like she is about to win the match, Natalya catches her in the Sharpshooter, and again bends AJ Lee out of proportion, and AJ has no choice but to tap out. Natalya and Vickie celebrate.
* This would lead to Eve Torres being named the #1 Contender by Vickie Guerrero, as part of a verbal agreement the two came to if Eve won the match. Natalya is offended, since it was her who won the match. Eve tells Natalya that it was all the hard work of herself and Vickie putting the team together, and that deserves to be rewarded. Natalya turns quasi-face by attacking Eve, and the two fight over who earns the right to face Layla for the Divas Title.
* Vickie Guerrero and AJ Lee still have issues left, and some higher power ends up forcing them into a match against each other at Tables, Ladders & Chairs. Vickie ends up revealing that she promised Kharma a contract if her team won the match. It looked like Vickie was going to screw Kharma over for walking out on her at Survivor Series, but Vickie desperately needs Kharma in her corner now that AJ gets a one-on-one match with her. Kharma reluctantly agrees, if Vickie begs on her knees. Vickie does, and the vengeful goddess seems appeased. AJ Lee wins that match against Vickie Guerrero, but AJ is laid out by Kharma post-match, leading to a match between the two at the Royal Rumble.
* This leaves Naomi, Tamina, Kaitlyn and Alicia Fox to work the Divas under-card for a bit.
MEANWHILE
* On SmackDown, you debut Paige as Booker T's new Diva signing. She is her usual cheery self, and she manages to upset another Diva prospect (maybe someone from the independent scene), and Paige gets the clean pin with RamPaige. Booker T hands Paige her new WWE contract. The next week, as Paige makes her way out for a match against some other girl, she is attacked in the aisle by an older woman who looks a bit like her. JBL, being the knowledgeable fellow that he is, recognises that is "Saraya," Paige's mother. Josh Mathews begs the question of why a mother would attack her own daughter.
* Saraya reveals her motivations -- "I never got an opportunity! I gave you life and you have stolen my moment!" Saraya and Paige have a violent feud on SmackDown, which could be used to entrench Paige as a clear fan-favourite in the Divas Division.
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Way too much diva talk for no pictures.
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