Legit Heat: Lawler and Striker
 

There is said to be legit heat between Jerry Lawler and Matt Striker. Striker reportedly has a reputation for being an elitist, which is rubbing people the wrong way, as Michael Cole isn't a fan of Striker's either. There have been times that Striker wanted to prepare for a show with his broadcast partners but he irritates them so much that they go out of their way to avoid him until showtime. (LordsofPain)

So, what do you guys think of this?

I think Cole probably says "Vintage Striker" anytime he annoys him and King (2x the annoyance for Lawler)

I think Lawler and Cole can go fuck themselves, personally.

So, lets get pissed at someone who gives 2 shits about commentary.

I think Matt Striker should get a hold of himself.

THIS. :y:

lol Lawler doesn't prepare.

I think they are jealous of Strikers new found popularity and realize that they pretty much suck ass.

Lawler used to be good a decade ago :(

But yeah honestly Striker > those two. Still rough around the edges, but he def knows how to call a wrasslin match.

The problem with Lawler and Cole and BOTH of them are corporate shills. There should only be one corporate shill and the other guy should be invested into what's going on, and too legit for corporate. See Rogan and Goldberg in the UFC. Matt Striker would do well with one of the two because he's invester in the product while the other two are simply kissasses. Though having a kissass is necesarry to shill products and promotions and so forth, but only one is enough.

GDN is spot on

Gorgeous.

Dale.

Newstead.

4 Life.

Word to your mother.

Talked about this on the show earlier. I think it's really unprofessional of Cole and Lawler to avoid Striker until showtime. Yeah, they don't like him, but fucking suck it up so you don't look like fools when it comes time to work.

Stryker does pretty much outshine both of them.

Lawler should hang it up, he's a fucking horrible color fella now

Don't worry Screech, King will be gone after my letter reaches the Connecticut post office.

i just miss heel Jerry Lawler. I used to love it when the heels would do a good move, and he'd go "YESSS". Lol.

Striker and JBL would be entertaining

i like strikers heel comments. finally an announcer who appeases the masses with smarky mean comments about the faces.

I don't understand how Ahmed Johnson has ANYTHING to do with this thread.

Yeah Lawler and Cole come off as such morons. Like they just don't feed off of one another. If you gave Lawler, Striker to work with, I feel there could be that JR/Paul Heyman chemistry where you can tell they hate one another but it's magic.

But yeah, you can tell both Cole and Lawler are force fed lines and they just have no idea how to sound like they care at all, and I don't fully blame them. Whereas Striker is extremely eloquent/smart/apparently an elitist and clearly knows how to work around being fed bullshit.

Either way, he SOUNDS like he gives a shit, Lawler and Cole don't even sound like they watch the product.

Seems unfair that Stryker is allowed to have a gun in a martial arts contest. Learn to throw a fireball you pussy.

It'd be kind of awesome if they had Jerry Lawler kayfabe unabashedly despise Bret Hart like he used to. Honestly there was nothing more awesome than listening to Lawler calling a Bret Hart match in the early-mid 90s.

Well Jax has a gun and metal arms so it works out

and Johnny Cage would just punch people in the balls.

This is what I get for posting while drinking and being high.....geez.

Kurtis Stryker in the WWE = ratings.

But on topic, I love Matt Striker's commentary. The dude actually cares, and invests so much love and attention to everything he says. He did his absolute best to make people care about Shad Gaspard vs. JTG at Extreme Rules. The way he mentioned the symbolism of JTG and Shad being tethered together in a match after being partners for four years was brilliant. I love the way he can actually think on the spot to, and talk about the mortality of The Undertaker after someone makes him bleed a little.

Michael Cole is good as a heel on NXT, but besides that, I can do without him. Jerry Lawler is completely redundant. Jim Ross and Matt Striker would make an amazing commentary duo, for the record. JR with his traditonal, "BAH GAWD!" style and Striker with a calmer, more intelligent approach.

I think they should sign Noob Saibot personally

Black guys never get pushes in the WWE. You just know he would be given a rappin' ninja gimmick, too.

I actually noticed this at Extreme Rules during the Cena-Batista match. Striker said some funny smart ass comment to Cole, to which Cole responds "How about you just call the match?" which lead to an awkward silence. It felt legit, and now seems legit.

Maybe Striker is an elitist, and maybe he's not -- but I think the part that is really stinging Cole & King is just how much better Striker is than them.

Seems like Lawler and Cole are really believing that RAW is the flagship/best brand and felt Striker being from a "lower" brand shouldn't be able to give out orders or improvise stuff because he doesn't have the top brand seniority as announcer.

J.R. didn't have this type of "superiority" thinking when he moved to Smackdown based on reports from him and others (even though he resisted at first since it meant new travel plans and work days).

the reason JR probably didn't have that complex is cuz he enjoys calling wrestling matches so he most likely had fun doing so on Smackdown. Cole and Lawler are both capable of calling a match, but that's not what commentating RAW is about. It's about shilling crap, and talking about the main storylines.

this "news" is from lords of pain and thus is most likey (see 10,000%) a lie.

ps- here`s a nice little plot hole for this BREAKING NEWS: Lawler doesnt attend production meetings. Says he wants to be able to react naturally.

Interesting. There has been a number of times recently where I have noticed some awkward moments between Cole/Striker where King usually stays silent. I think a few at Wrestlemania 26

I bet Cole hates when there's a big move in a match and Striker just yells "OHHHHHHHH" really loud.

Vince should go back on commentary

"1....2......NO"

Honestly Kurtis Stryker was going in this contest over his head I mean a god of lighting, A Hell spawn ninja and EVERYBODY BUT YOU THROWS A GODDAMN FIREBALL the guns and hand grenades were a mercy. God forbid he should run low on ammo.

On a serious note though Matt Striker can be a little obnoxious but that'll go in time I think, I'm glad theres someone on the team who tries as opposed to seeming dispassionate like king seems to be or is just a straightup corp toolbag like Cole,Plus anybody who annoys Cole as much as he annoys me is the goods as far as I'm concerned.

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OHHHHHHHHH

I always thought Stryker should have a flamethrower or something

Personally, I liked JR and King the best, that was one of my favorite teams along with Gorilla and Ventura. Striker is alright in his knowledge of the business but he has been bothering me lately. Who boos when the Hart Dynasty finally wins the tag titles? Bret Hart was in no way involved with them actually winning the match. He took Miz's feet off the ropes but did nothing else. He is trying way too hard to be the heel announcer and he definitely does come off as elitist.

It's kayfabe.

Yeah Striker maybe a little over the top at times, but like many others have said, at least he actually cares about the product. I personally think him and Joey Styles would be a great team together.

You can always feel the tension between them when they are doing commentary together.

Remember when Ventura had that list of wrestlers with their pictures? I heard that King had the same fucking thing.

Educate me.

When Ventura guest hosted, they gave him pages with the wrestlers names and a picture of them, so he knew who was who.

On one of the "special" Raws that had people from all three brands, Lawyer was given pages with the names of the wrestlers and the pictures of them, because he was totally unfamiliar with the wrestlers on Smackdown and ECW.

That's what the news report claimed at least.

Is it just me that finds the 'elitist' label bizarre without any kind of justification or example?

I actually felt it then for the first time, and in numerous spots. In fact, it was the very first time I've recognized what many might call "bad announcing". And it wasn't Striker's fault; Cole kept negating EVERYTHING he said. Any given bit of info Striker put out there, especially toward the latter half of the show, Cole would say "Not even that, but this!" It was like watching a guy purposefully bomb at improv comedy.


What in the fuck...?

Ironic, is it not, that when people call someone "elitist", it's said in a way that the name-caller is looking down on them.

I don't give a fuck about this "news", but I'll use this thread as an opportunity to say that heel Jerry Lawler was an amazing commentator.

We have a winner!