Jurassic Park IV
 

"Jurassic Park III director Joe Johnston revealed in an interview in January 2010 that Jurassic Park IV was set to be the beginning of a second Jurassic Park trilogy. He also added, “Jurassic Park 4 is going to be unlike anything you’ve seen.” According to a new interview conducted in 2010 by Drew McWeeny with Joe Johnston on the website Behind the Films, a new script is under works with a different idea behind it. Johnston says once he finishes Captain America, he hopefully will develop Jurassic Park IV with Steven Spielberg. It certainly seems probable that we will see "Jurassic Park IV". Joe Johnston enthusiastically has confirmed the likelihood of the film's production more than once."

Not sure if this is news to anyone, but I thought it was pretty damn awesome as I love the Jurassic Park franchise.

Why do they keep building Jurassic Parks

I remember when first hearing about this that the story of the movie was gonna involve the Army taking Dinos and equipping them with high tech guns for combat only for them to turn against the army.

That would be so f'n lame if that were the case.

lol dinosaur Terminators

Dino Riders. It's been done.

Bring back Sam Neill

I love the first movie, but I don't think there's any need for more sequels. I suppose I'd check it out, but considering Spielberg himself only pulled off a mediocre sequel, I think they should just stop.
3 was fun at points, but it was closer to a SyFy channel movie than Jurassic Park. It pretty much just had a big budget and a few better actors

i'd watch

The first one was great - the rest were fucking awful.

I bet this pile of shit is in 3D - oh yay

And what way can you present the 'dinos back in modern times' idea that's so different?

Pretty much everyone loved the first one. I liked the second one (though haven't seen it in years), and the third was okay, but nothing special.

If a fourth one is actually made I'll probably check it out for some fun, but come on there's been on-again/off-again news on Jurassic Park 4 for years, most notably the 'Dino Riders' theme someone mentioned above.

Jurassic Park 9: T-Rex takes Manhattan

That already happened. We still have the option of sending someone back in time to a real Jurassic Park though.

THe dinosaurs hold a talent contest where the winner gets to save JP

I liked all three. But Jurassic Park is one of my favorite movies ever. I liked The Lost World a lot too. Jurassic Park III was the weakest but I still enjoyed it. I hope they do make the fourth, and not make it ridiculous.

Are there any series where the fourth movie is not ridiculous? Not rhetorical. I would like thoughtful consideration to this question.

I don't believe there are. But I'm sure it can be done.

Jaws? Alien? Police Academy?

Even the best series see dropoffs by the 3rd or 4th installment. I can't think of many good 4th movies.
I liked Indy 4 and Die Hard 4, but there are plenty that would argue against that.

The best bet for another Jurassic Park sequel would be if all these years later Spielberg took another crack at it, and really went all out with it.
It would be best as a spiritual successor to the first, which acknowledged the others but really only followed in the footsteps of the original.
All of the philisophical debate about playing god and screwing with nature and genetics was the best part of the original. The dino action was incredible, but the sequels proved that it can only go so far without an engaging story.
I'd also like to see Malcolm, Grant and Sadler all back together, and a bit more made of that rival company that Nedry was stealing the embryos for. Dogdson! Dogdson! We've got Dogdson here!

I think Spielberg is going to produce it. But I'm really hoping for an epic journey if it does happen. And Grant/Sadler/Malcom have to be a part of it. I totally didn't even think about how they could use that rival company in the fourth. That would be sweet.

A Muldoon-like character who had a bit more bite to go with his bark might be a plus. Of course, he should get clever-girled in the end, but not without a bigger fight.

I actually think a story about the rival company Dogdson worked for developing their own Jurassic Park ripoff (with all new suprises) would be the best idea.
It's better than the main characters getting sucked into the original park (or one of it's convenient new sites) again.

ROCKY IV, COOOOOOOOOOOOOOME OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON

Never understood how Spitters never made another appearance in either of the sequels. Underrated.

The original characters could be trying to stop the rival company or some shit. And I agree with the Dilophosaurus statement, way underrated and they need to make another appearance.

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You'd think that by now they would have just given up on the carnivores, and built a Jurassic Park that only featured herbivores.
Sure, it wouldn't be as awesome, but you'd still make money hand over fist without having to worry about it breaking down into disaster. It beats Yellowstone or Busch Gardens.

Carnivores are where it's at.

Yea but aquariums get by without Great White Sharks. I don't know how, but they do.

I'm fascinated by great whites. I guess there's gonna be a new show on NatGeo about them.

Tonight, I heard. I intend on watching it

Dang, what time? PST of course...

Great Whites are like the most awesome thing that we know currently exists. I'm fascinated by UFOs/Aliens, Dinosaurs, Time Travel, Ghosts, and all that other awesome stuff, but Great White Sharks are the only thing that awesome that's not extinct or unproven.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/outp...c-channel.html

I guess it's not until Sunday night? Some guy on the radio mentioned it was tonight and decieved me.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6...7318970b-600wi

That is a fucking porker, as Quint would say

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Yeah, you're right. Totally lame.

Also, I love JP, and felt that the third one was underrated.

Clever girl

MEGALODON

There is at least one Great White Shark prowling the deep that's well over 30 feet. Prove me wrong

im keeping my fingers crossed for the Triceratrons to appear

So I take it Jeff Goldbloom needs another movie role?

They're making Independence Day 2 & 3

So Bill Pullman needs another movie role?

I think we're gonna need a bigger boat

I will accept Die Hard and Indy 4 as legit decent sequels. Rocky IV is really quite "ehhhh" beyond nostalgia. Star Wars is an interesting case because of the huge time difference. Phantom Menace would be what we're talking about. You can consider it the fourth of the overall series, but it's really the first of a new trilogy. Either way, it's probably the de facto worst.

And no matter how you look at it The Phantom Menace still sucks.

So you're right anyway.

I think Phantom Menace is a far better movie than Attack of the Clones. Either way, both aren't nearly as good as the original trilogy or Revenge of the Sith.
It's hard to apply Star Wars here since they're made in trilogies and so far apart, but yea.

It would have been interesting to see if The Hobbit lived up to the LOTR trilogy, or suffered from fan expectation syndrome. We might not even see that now, though...

Peter Jackson should just direct the fucking thing already.

Their claim is that he has other projects and they're looking for a new director altoghether, but that sounds like a statement to stall the decision.
The Lovely Bones was a critical and financial failure, and he could probably use the bounceback. I wouldn't be suprised to see him take over. I hope he does.
Bringing in a new director now that they've written and designed the whole thing would be a disaster, I think. Who else could really be up to task, especially when it's got others creative DNA all over it going in?
I think it's pretty much Peter Jackson or bust

The original JP will forever be a great classic movie in my heart and I though both the sequels were good each in their own right so I'm all for this unless the premise is utterly ridiculous.

Ooh, that brings up an interesting point to the '4th film' discussion...

I expect The Hobbit to be quite good, so you can almost definitely preemptively put that on the list.

Also, anyone who thought Indy 4 was good is a soul less human being and is just adding to the destruction of my childhood, so fuck you.

I beg to differ

Honestly I thought it was at least better than TOD.

It's more or less on par with TOD. I'd have like a bit less lazy looking CGI, but other than that I enjoyed the story, characters, and Indy elements.
I think complaints about nuking the fridge and the like just reflects a more cynical age of moviegoers. Like jumping out of a plane in a raft, or any of the other shit that happens all the time in Indy movies makes any more sense...
I think these days people just like their heroes like Bourne, or the new Batman and Bond. Indy didn't really change, his crowd did.

I thought it was fun in the same spirit as the originals, while having a really clever story.

IMHO. I know this a touchy subject among movie fans

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Actually Rambo was pretty good. Not nearly as good as First Blood, but a big step up from Rambo III.

Fucking ALIENS and Indy's spawn essentially being Tarzan.

You've all got to be kidding with me.

People are such drama queens over the last Indy. Not nearly as bad as what people say. In fact, all the hate makes the movie look better.

Aliens aren't any more ridiculous than the powers of the other artifacts he's chased. They're just a new direction. Same with his son. He's the son of Indy and Marion so obviously he's going to be some kind of genetic treasure hunting freak.

I'd like to think that they'd be aware of the stigma of a 4th installment and try not to fuck it up.

Exactly. Not to mention the Aliens mythology works in with the Mayans, in which it is a religious power and centers around an archelogical artifcat.
It was also brilliant to me, since the movie was logically set years later in the 1950s, at the height of the flying saucer craze.
Couple that with The Red Scare, and making the Russians the villains.
I was just a fan of what they did. I didn't see it as any departure from the original format, at all.

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this man led to the phrase "he's no roland tembo" becoming commonplace among my nerd friends, especially when talking about muldoon.

muldoon: taken out swiftly by animals he is supposedly an expert on, without getting a shot off

tembo: glorified hunter who bags himself a motherfucking t-rex and lives to talk about it

he is badass.

This is a game trail, Mr. Ludlow. Carnivores hunt on game trails. Do you want to set up basecamp in the middle of a buffet?

Peter? If you want me to run your little camping trip there are two conditions, firstly: I'm in charge and when I'm not around Dieter is. All you need to do is sign the cheques and open your case of scotch when we have a good day. Secondly: My fee, you can keep it. All I want in exchange for my services is the right to hunt one of the Tyrannosauruses. A Male. A Buck only. How and why are my business, now if you don't like either of those two conditions you're on your own. So go ahead, set up base camp right here, or in a swamp or in the middle of the Rex nest for all I care. But I've been on too many safaris with rich dentists to listen to any more sucidal ideas. Ok?

Roland Tembo was easily the best part of that movie. He had some awesome lines and moments.

It should also be pointed out that he was gay, they just never outright said it, but he was.

that doesn't change anything, he still smashed himself a tyrannosaur.

isn't it mentioned in the book?

I'm not saying it changes anything. I'm just pointing it out that he's a badass Tyranosaur hunter who happens to be homosexual, most likely. He smashes T-Rexes and stereotypes. Take that homophobes

if anything that kind of increases his bad-assery, since he can hunt dinosaurs and look amazing while doing it

I also don't think he was in The Lost World book

Going to take this oppurtunity to point out how lame the Dino Hunters William H. Macy hired were in JP3.
He hired Mr. Noodle. They were all terrified of Dinosaurs and ran like bitches before getting eaten without a fight.

Horrible team.

The made up action figure Dino Raiders were far more badass.

http://images.comiccollectorlive.com...7d1a7659a9.jpghttp://www.jptoys.com/toy-database/j...img/snare2.jpg


These guys are too experienced to fall for William H. Macy's billionaire masquerade and bounced checks

yeah, that's right. the book had a guy called thorne, i think. he was kind of a pastiche of tembo and someone else.

I was just reading that the entire inGen plot wasn't even present in the book. It was about Dodgson and the rival corporation trying to steal material from the site, while Hammond's team was there. I'm not sure if it was to stop them or not.

Either way it sounds like a better idea, and one that should still be re-worked for any potential sequel.

God T-Rex's are so badass. I used to collect them. Real ones, of course.

:rofl: See? Nobody cares!

On a serious note, I agree, would be interesting to see the rival company with a little more backstory about them vs Hammond.

They really tried their hardest to get the Spinosaurus over. They had it squash T Rex like it was nothing. That was a pretty big risk. Spino was cool, but come on.

Also, they hyped up using the Carnosaurus forever, and when they did it scoped out a pile of shit and walked away. That thing would have been so much more badass than the Spino

Here's a dreadful thought but anyone think since it's the trend as of late that they'll try to shoehorn this in as some sort of prequel or tweener adventure?

Raptors in the long grass was one of the most badass scenes of Lost World. I actually would like to watch that movie right now, but I don't have it on DVD. Might have to pop out the VHS.

I just hope it doesn't involve Dinos in space.

I don't think they'll be so retarded to make something that is complete shit.

Turok been there done that but I wouldn't count it out.

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I think the sequels made the mistake of being more action/adventure oriented, and abandoning the science fiction.
I'm not saying to set it in space, or give them lasers or anything. I mean they should return to the focus of man creating dinosaurs, and what consquences it has. 15 years later, I think there is a chance to re-visit that.
It would be especially interesting if the rival company was making the same mistakes, and all new ones, and the experienced people from the first movie made use of the lessons they learned from their mistakes.

Agreed.

Although I liked the sequels. The Lost World I really enjoyed, more so than III.

Well, they also came out much sooner after the original, so people had an appetite for more dinosaurs.
They couldn't really get away with not showing more dinos and dino action.
So I understand how their hands were tied there in trying to please the audience.

Now, this many years removed from the franchise, they could probably go back to slowly building towards the dinosaurs and making them have a bigger impact again. It would be a total nostalgia trip too, really.
It's been long enough that the JP T-Rex returning to the screen could be pretty epic if hyped right. Same with the Raptors.

The T-Rex was barely used in III, and it's my favorite part so I'd be excited to see it. Raptors are badass, but they freak my the fuck out much more than the T-Rex. They're like the athletes of dinosaurs.

I didn't care for the Raptors in part 3. I just didn't like the way they were used and the way they looked. I won't get into the issue of them evolving insane amounts over the course of 4 years, and the goofiness of Grant dreaming about them talking to him even though he's never seen anything of the sort. That's another story.
They just kind of jumped the shark. They should bring them back to the way they were in 1 and 2.

I'm probably one the few peeps out here that preferred 3 over Lost World I liked the fact that it was darker but having Goldbloom's character as one of the leads didn't work for me.

Having Goldblum's character as the lead would have been awesome if he was more like Ian Malcolm from the first film.
They're both heavily just Goldblum, like all his roles, but there's a definite change in the character and that's not just because of development. They sort of watered him down to be a lead.

The Raptor mystique was toyed with in III. They were intense in the original and The Lost World. I really like Goldblum, though.

Bingo it's like they tried adding another dimension to his persona and I never really bought it but I do rather like Goldblum he more believable as a hero in ID4 which btw I'm not sure I want a sequel done for.

Yeah, the Malcom from the original would have been better. "Chaos."

Malcom is my favorite character in the original

Must go faster.

they should try bringing back Neanderthals and cromags with the dinosaurs

I guess in reality, raptors are only like 3 feet tall, at most, and the dinosaur they were actually based on in the movie was Dinonichious.(probably butchered the spelling there.) But Velociraptors sounds cooler, so they switched the names.

Utah Raptors were pretty big.

I thought Utah Raptors were pretty much the exact thing from the movie?