Triple H or Cena to allign with Nexus?
 

- WWE is toying with the idea of turning a top Superstar heel and have them be the person behind The Nexus angle. The main people being pitched for a heel turn are Triple H and believe it or not, John Cena.

Cena turning heel would be a risk because of his popularity with kids and everything else, including merchandise. Triple H has wanted to turn heel for a few years now but with injuries to him and his co-workers, they haven't had the right time to turn him.

Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter

lol no way it'll be Cena.

would love for it to be triple h... evolution was bad ass

no bad idea.

I could hhh being a ringleader but i wouldnt count out mcmahon as the leader

I was thinking about this a few nights ago. While I really want a heel Cena, a heel HHH makes perfect sense, especially if they turn Sheamus.

This about it, HHH gets taken out by a new blood guy in Sheamus. Realizing that the new, young talent is starting to take over, and his throne may be in jeopardy, he pretty much gets the hungriest group of young talent to do his bidding. They're job can be to pretty much protect HHH, and keep the rest of the WWE in check, under the hopes that once HHH is gone, they'll be the ones running the show.

they dont need a leader wade is the man

Ya Barrett needs to be the main guy behind this. Turning a top star heel would just take away Barrett's heat. This should all lead to a big Cena vs. Barrett PPV match.

How is Barrett's in-ring work? If he's decent enough, I'd like to see him win the title out of all this.

The only way I could see Cena being turned is if they have the intention to bring in Danielson and put him immediately into a feud with Cena.

Mmmmmmmm. The idea of making Cena go heel makes me go crazy like Pavlov's dogs. It COULD work. But I would wait for a little while, like after the November elections so WWE could keep it's kid friendly image for Linda. Stupid as it sounds, she's catching alot of flak about her job here in CT. But you gotta wonder how long this angle is gonna run for.

Triple H........how does it work? He's been out of action since NXT began, right? I can see him coming in as the mystery GM. But heading up Nexus? Jericho looks like he's the brains behind it the way things are going with him now.

Barrett is good, but he's far from a main eventer. Let Nexus do there thing for a bit, then bring in the "leader" (HHH). Eventually, Barrett will get sick of doing HHH's bidding, and he'll have a great face turn and feud with HHH. It's what they did with Batista, and it worked great. Let them do it again.

Turn Cena heel, that would be great and awesome.

If they turned Cena heel little kids would still turn up in those orange shirts.

Barrett needs to be the man if HHH is the leader that totally dissolves the purpose of nexus.

they will not turn cena because when they turned Austin in 2001 everything went to shit.

personally i dont see wade as being there yet i think a hhh rub could be better for him in the long run

A heel Triple H would be good but leading the Nexus would seem like a step down for him and also take credibility from Nexus and Barrett specifically. Cena leading wouldn't make much sense since they are constantly attacking him. Neither interests me in the least.

i feel like austin went to shit because he was always a tweener and for anyone not to cheer whatever he did they'd hae to go to far off his persona. with cena id think it'd work better and he'd get hogan heel turn heat and it'd be the whole turned his back on the fans type kick

HHH isn't a good heel if he doesn't have a faction. it just doesn't work

Turn Cena heel and then have Darren Young come back sans ridiculous hair and do the Cena Rapping schtick circa 8 years ago. It would be perfect!

This would be cool... But I think the pipedream of Cena turning heel while making millions for VKM is just not in the cards...

Barrett is doing a helluva job... If they were to put someone here, it would make sense to do it with HHH so he could heal up while on camera... Using the Sledge when needed...

It should be someone else that's an already established heel like Jericho, DiBiase, Edge, or Miz if anything.

I don't think it would be good. I think Barrett is already at the point where is is respected by the fans that he can be over as a heel.

I actually would not mind if Barrett became champ with in the next few months.

I was trying to come up with a way to turn Cena heel yesterday for the Cena Hate thread...I could think of NOTHING except Nexus. I comtemplated him even being a special ref and turning on another top face...but then I realized that there was no other top face that would really give the heat needed for a heel turn.

so its this or nothing for John.

The Wrestling Observer = Ryan Clark right?

Triple H is a good everything, Knight, I'll fucking kill you. /James Steele

HHH as a face gets just as boring after a while as HHH the heel. I guess that could be true for anyone. He is equally good at both in my opinion and he is rare in the idea that it doesn't take much to turn him either way.

Seriously though, what does that even mean?

The difference there is Hogan was losing a lot of steam in terms of his drawing ability from 1994-1996 so they had to turn him heel. As much as fans boo the babyface Cena, it has had no effect on business, as he's the WWE's major draw right now, so from a business stand point, it would probably be a mistake to turn him heel now.

If you were really channeling Jimmy, you'd need to ask someone to change your diaper. ;)

Anyway, Trips' work as both a face and a heel is largely contingent on the people around him. Jimmy probably only likes him because Trips is dominant, and Jimmy dreams of being dominated by a big, hulking norseman.

Regardless, both Cena and Trips being behind Nexus is stupid. Turing Cena heel is a longshot to begin with, since he's the guy who sells the shitty shirts. Turning him as he's been fucked royally is bad reasoning even for WWE. They could try a "Hogan joins the nWo" moment, but I don't think WWE would risk their big ticket right now.

Triple H being the mastermind benefits...Triple H. And it doesn't benefit him all that much. He doesn't need the boost, and it kills some of the heat NXT's getting on their own. This at least makes sense from WWE's mindset, because it involves shoving Triple H into the center of an angle and screwing up a good angle...but it's still dumb.

I'd much rather see someone other than Cena or Triple H revealed as the Nexus mastermind. As for the anyonymous GM, it would just be stupid to reveal Cena as being behind it, but I think Trips could make it work fine as he's been out for like 2-3 months.

And even I know now is not the time to turn Cena heel. Could it work for Trips? Perhaps, but I think right now if they tried it on his return or anytime too soon thereafter it could backfire in a major way. As for who is revealed as the Nexus' mastermind, it should be either Jericho or one of the other 7 pros from NXT season 1.

Vintage Kane Knight!

<font color=goldenrod>I really don't want Nexus to have a mastermind, UNLESS the mastermind is a non-wrestler. Barrett is great on the mic, has a guaranteed title shot, and can get a title run out of this. What would happen? He'd win the belt and then simply lay down for the leader? That would suck, and they'd all just be standing behind the leader while he spoke.

As for the two options presented - as much as I would love a Cena heel run, it would be one of the least sensible things they've ever done from a storyline perspective. I can understand "taking one for the team" and allowing yourself to get your ass kicked to push across the threat, but he's been jumped by Nexus several times now AND they caused him to lose his title. It just wouldn't make any sense. You formed this group and willingly got your ass kicked and lost your title just to make a point?

Triple H would make far more sense for the reasons that WWKD mentioned.</font>

Told you, HHH is the new GM!;)

If they feel the need to add a mastermind, I'd prefer it be a non-wrestling role. I think Barrett should be doing the leading in the ring, and get any main events or title reigns out of this.
He can carry the stable on the microphone too, but if they think a co-leader will help get them over more, I am fine with that as long as they split mic time and Barrett is the one stepping into the ring.

DUH...CHRIS JERICHO. He's the PERFECT guy for the job. Plus, the NXT guys can learn from him in real life, he can mentor them and stuff, as they work on what they will be doing on tv.

HHH isn't a good heel

lol... wow.

He's not.

His "heel" status was largely cemented by the company he kept, both friend and foe.

put the nexus in the SES.

So you're saying they should join Punk's stable?

It's gonna be weird seeing HHH heel without Flair. Not saying it's impossible but it is what I remember the most and what I liked the most.

Turning Cena heel is fine with me as I would support him anyway, but it would make absolutely no sense at all to have him as the mastermind behind the Nexus. He is the one leading the charge against him and they have beaten him up on several occasions as well as costing him the title. I don't see how that would make sense for him to be the leader. HHH would be a good choice, don't know how they would do that with Trips just getting surgery. It certainly wouldn't be as good as Evolution if he was the leader since the Nexus has barely any good talent. Barrett's only good on the mic, they fired Danielson and Gabriel is the only one I think is decent in the ring.

I think It would be pointless having HHH or Cena turn heel for the sake of this already magnificent (Compared with recent offerings) angle.

Nobody would benefit from this (I concur with KK), The way forward here is to have HHH come back as the anonymous GM for a while and have Nexus cause him major headaches. Resulting in Wade Barrett going over him down the line then Shane O'Mac coming forward as the man behind The Nexus.

A power struggle feud between O'Mac and HHH could be epic in terms of seeing who takes the reigns and power from Vinnie (On Camera at least) when he eventually retires/dies.

The locker-room doing the bidding for (Face) HHH and the Nexus doing the bidding for (Heel) Shane O'Mac.

Huge potential for a swerve down the line of Shane turning face and taking control and HHH turning heel and getting screwed out of control.

I want Cena to turn hell so he can finally die off.

Put nexus in Cryme Tyme

Sorry man that ain't gonna happen, Cena is like a terminator sent from the future to rid us of good talent.

oh didnt realize there was a page 2

Cena: Brian spit in my face........Alright now go kill Justin Roberts

The SNES!

I'm totally lost now, so who spit in his face, this guy named Brian, or was it Bryan?

what if Triple H returned as a heel and it turned out he was the leader of the Nexus and had them make targets out of John Cena and Sheamus, because him and Cena have fueded in the past and Sheamus is the one who put him out? just a thought.

It's the obvious way to take it MM. But nobody including a host of new stars that need to get over will benefit from that, can't see it happening, Not even the WWE is that stupid.

Saying that though, they did just put the title on Rey Mysterio.........

TheNexus might as well beat everyone up, Trips has been there so long that he's feuded with everyone.

That would be a good way for HHH to turn heel but in the long run would hurt the consistency of Nexus. They exist because the WWE wasn't giving them a chance and so they decided to ban together and make them....

Having HHH be the ring leader for the reason you chose would make everything they have ever said seem like a lie or un important.

When Triple H returns, he's going to get some massive face pops. You might as well coast them out a bit. A heel turn for him would freshen him up, but as the leader of Nexus? It just doesn't seem right. While I would support a heel Cena -- it would just be an M. Night move (a twist for the sake of a twist) to have Cena revealed as Nexus' leader.

If they want an established guy in the group, then either Chris Jericho or Sheamus would be my picks. Jericho has the connection to Barrett, and doesn't have the ego to upstage the other guys. Sheamus would be less captivating, but would make sense in that he's also a young guy out to make a name for himself.

Sheamus is obviously going to be revealed as the leader. They've really telegraphed it

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He's the fucking GM, ofc he gonna be with da Nexus!

Did any of you notice that, before Cena's match on Raw this week, he handed his dog tags to Michael Cole? Normally Cena gives them to the ref or puts them in his pocket. He has NEVER walked all the way around the ring to even put them on the announce table, let alone hand them to Michael Cole. Michael Cole. Michael Frickin' Cole. The same Michael Cole who hasn't been touched by Nexus and is the "spokesman" for the GM. A trite bit odd, methinks. I thought at that point Cole was gonna grab the mic and tell the world about "the event." :shifty:

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Jericho or Sheamus would make better sense with someone like The Miz as a huge wildcard pick.

Jericho would be the most obvious since he's never been attacked by Nexus and taught Barrett all his "skills" in being a heel/manager of other people.

Sheamus would be another good choice since he's relatively "new" in terms of being on RAW and in the WWE. He benefited the most last PPV by becoming the champion and by Nexus not attacking him so far. He's also young as a wrestler so no worry about being stale as a face or heel.

Miz would be similar to Jericho where he's teaching the rookies all the "bad" stuff about being a wrestler and his character is similar to Jericho's only doing things to benefit himself and not the crowd. Only tough part would be trying to connect him with Season 2 NXT rookies if they don't form a group to be similar to Nexus.

I would say it will be Triple H because I dont see any chance of them turning Cena heel, considering his good guy gimmick and how he is over with younger fans and women. Triple H, is a great heel, he does the role right, so I could easily see him aligning himself with Nexus.

He might just identify with Michael Cole gets booed for no apparent reason other than he sucks?

That just proves how good a heel he is.

Michael Cole is officially a heel now?

I made this. But I'm putting it here and starting a rumour. Now someone please, post to Ryan Clark so he can say somethign along the wank of "HHH seen in NEXUS T-SHIRT OMGGGGG!!!!".

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Fixed for accuracy.

Sorry, forgot that justification only works with people you like.

I'd prefer no mastermind whatsoever...these guys are getting legit heat and each of them are starting to really form an identity (ESPECIALLY Barrett). Plopping some heel in there that makes all of the NXTers glorified puppets can very easily kill all the progress the angle made.

Shock value moments are great and all, but the desire to surprise the audience can't supersede the continuity and the progress of the actual storylines.

It also shouldn't supercede the quality of the existing angle.

Katie Vick got good ratings until people found out about...Katie Vick.

Then again, if Lost can pull nonsensical shit out their ass and draw ratings of 12 or better, maybe Vince should follow the model. ;)

I see it moreso being Triple H because A.) He's been wanting to go heel for a while and B.) Nexus would be that much more powerful and respected if someome like Triple H alligned himself with them.

I'm also hoping that if it's Triple H, they'll recruit some other wrestlers in the future to make it like an nWo stable.

Though, if the WWE wanted to re-created Bash At The Beach '96 they would have Cena join Nexus, though I highly doubt that would happen.

I mean as much as it would be good for wrestling if Cena turned heel, right now he just generates too much cash flow for the WWE to mess around with his character. Maybe in the future.

Mid-life crisis?

Only when the glasses go on.

If Triple H wants to turn heel, he should go to SmackDown! and reveal himself as being the man who put The Undertaker in a vegetative state. Then Kane has got two reasons to hate Triple H -- what he did to his brother, and that whole thing with the corpse he brought up.

Can kind of see Sheamus being the one to be behind Nexus

I could see Miz winning MITB - then after he wins the WWE title, he's revealed as the mastermind of Nexus, using them to be able to hang on to both of his belts - until the student eventually becomes the master and Barrett takes the WWE belt from him. This in turn then enables Cena to make things "right" once more, by overcoming the odds and beating Barrett to return the title to it's "rightful" place!

Who should win the cage match between Sheamus and Cena depends on how complicated the angle should be. But if Sheamus wins it, then you could possibly have Sheamus eventually help Cena regain the WWE title (as a way of getting back against the Miz and Barrett), so that he can "Do what I did to you at Money in the Bank fella, and get _my_ title back"

Is that the excuse for Noid hypocrisy?

Sheamus and Jericho would be my dream Nexus manipulators.

Shut up, dude! Your only source of "wikipedia" got edited to say the Rock is no longer dead as well.

Banned

Not going to lie, I have no idea wtf Nexus is.

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Holy shit. Wikipedia can bring people back from the grave?

Honestly, McIntyre saying that MITB is gonna be the best show kinda gives me the notion that something monumental will happen, ie, a Cena Heel Turn, or a HUGE swerve.

The latest smark fetish. They were going to set the world on fire until WWE ruined it, then they were going to set the world on fire until some dude was released, then they were going to set the world on fire until some other dude couldn't work in the US, then they were going to set the world on fire until (insert apologetics blaming WWE for the next imagined failure).

Nexus isn't really failing right now.

Of course the autistic misses the point.

No, but I do and hence I was the one who edited that page.

I think you were trying to take a jab at the IWC, which you are apart of, but it still doesn't change the point that your attempt to burn them, be funny, or whatever, is incorrect. The Nexus aren't really failing. That's all there is to the story.

Kane Knight is a miserable cunt, let him stew in bitterness.

(insert apologetics blaming WWE for the next imagined failure)

I might be way off base here, but I think KK is saying that Nexus isn't failing, but every minor setback is being blown way out of proportion by the IWC.

But hey, that's what we do, right?

As for the mastermind, after last night it seems that the net result of the Nexus attacks on Cena is Sheamus winning/keeping the title. I guess they could run with HHH being "The Man Behind The Curtain" with the idea being that they keep the belt on Sheamus so that HHH can return and beat him for it.

However, that would kinda make Nexus face. But Barrett did say that the Nexus was "part of a bigger picture". Maybe he's saying "Yeah, you're booing us now but you don't understand why we've being doing what we've been doing - we're the good guys". Kinda like how Ben discribed The Others in LOST (what harm can another LOST reference do?).

Could I see HHH being revealed as the man behind Nexus. Sure. Would I like it? No.

OH LORD OF THE DEAD! WHAT IS YOUR BIDDING, MY MASTER?

Actually, it isn't. Like usual, you are missing a key piece of what I said and fucking up in the process.

I'll let XL explain.

Also, for someone who corrects me on the spelling of strawman (a viable alternative spelling of straw man), you might want to consider that "apart" means "set aside from." So you're trying to say I'm "a part of" the IWC, but instead, you are setting me "apart" from.

And then there's your confusion of "smark" and "IWC." though XL missed that too, and he was thinking, so I think we can forgive that. There's also the notion that someone doesn't have to be "apart from" a body to criticise the body as a whole, but you've had that explained to you by me and others.

But hey, why let what I actually said or any sort of logic get in the way of bitching about the things you made up? That's what Noid does.

Two-pronged assault, I think. On one hand, he does say "imagined failure," but on the other, he's talking about how we're all blaming the WWE for it failing. When KK is the only one really talking about it failing. It's basically a huge mess of a statement.

Yawn. I only took you up on that because you prided yourself on your writing. It obviously stung, because you're still bringing it up. And KK -- you're discussing wrestling on the internet. You're part of the internet wrestling community.

I just find it funny that you often target people for things they don't actually say, or that you yourself are guilty of. Yet, I suppose you accuse me of the same things. So I'm just going to admit that I sometimes stoop to your level. At least I can admit I'm as bad as you. And at least I generally have a sunny disposition about things. Everything is sarcasm this, sarcasm that with you. The lowest form of wit, man. But I'm sure you've heard it.

I could see HHH being the man behind Nexus, he's played that character before. Cena being the "mastermind" goves me too much of a Hogan/NWO vibe, like mentiond before.

I'm sure its not just me, but would anyone else just like to see Barrett in charge/ leader? I dont really think they need "star power" added to the stable.

Michael Cole will be the leader of N and the GM.

That would be terrible. :nono:

He's also the guy inside Cena! It's some crazy M. Night Shyamalan thing!

That would make sense....If I spelled it wrong. I didn't.

Brought it up once. You'll dredge up arguments from years ago...I haven't mentioned writing anything in ages, and you're still on about that.

Your sense of "pride" must be different from mine, to boot.

I never said I wasn't.

However, I did say "smark," not IWC. Posting on the internet discussing wrestling does not make one a smark. Also, as has been explained to you numerous times, one can be a part of a community and criticise it as a whole without doing anything wrong. I didn't do it, but that doesn't mean you cannot. I don't know why you can't grasp that.

False.

You clearly do, since you're doing it here. Right now. Demonstrably so.

You stoop to a level you attribute to me based on things you make up. I do not make any attempt to pretend I'm a snarky bitch. I'm not going to cop to things I don't do, however, just to please you.

And if being "sunny" means getting your knickers in a twist when someone makes jokes about smarks crying doom (By the way, smarks cried doom right here on TPWW.net! *cheap pop*), you can keep it.

Except when it's not. Which is fairly frequently. But I suppose it's easier for you to deal in absolutes.

So says an autistic who claims to be a comedian but can't come up with anything funny. :) Gotta sting to have no creativity when you so clearly want to have it.