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Savio 04-18-2004 08:03 PM

Offical Heat/Backlash thread 4/18/04
 
The Final Encounter
Triple Threat Match
World Heavyweight Title
Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Benoit

Street Fight
Intercontinental Title
Mick Foley vs. Randy Orton

Handicap Match
Chris Jericho vs. Christian & Trish Stratus

Edge vs. Kane

Womens Championship
Lita vs. Victoria

Shelton Benjamin vs. Ric Flair

Tajiri vs. Jonathan Coachman

Wondermouse 04-18-2004 08:39 PM

La Resistance vs. Hurricane and Rosey

PRE-PPV
Val Venis vs. Matt Hardy

AareDub 04-18-2004 09:02 PM

Anybody gonna do pbp?

blueskies 04-18-2004 09:06 PM

my directv ppv isn't working u.u; no wwe for me tonight.. so i hope there's going to be pbp

HHHsucks929 04-18-2004 09:10 PM

Here he is, the man who called Mick Foley out-of-shape. The rubber chest boy, Ric Flair. WOOOOOO!!!!

OssMan 04-18-2004 09:10 PM

Someone sticky this bitch.

HHHsucks929 04-18-2004 09:13 PM

Anybody else have the words "SAP Difficulties" on their screen?

OssMan 04-18-2004 09:14 PM

What's happening in the match dammit

AareDub 04-18-2004 09:39 PM

for those that still want pbp www.tpww.net/ppv

Rock Bottom 04-18-2004 09:41 PM

It's a sad day when a RAW thread tomorrow night will have way more views than a PPV thread with names like Benoit/Michaels/HHH...

KingofOldSchool 04-18-2004 09:42 PM

LOL The Coach defeated Tajiri.

Hahahahha.

AareDub 04-18-2004 09:42 PM

The really sad thing is that the WWE will probably credit the low buyrate to Benoit being champ.

Vega 04-18-2004 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingofOldSchool
LOL The Coach defeated Tajiri.

Hahahahha.

did he? ssssssssss @ tipsters

OssMan 04-18-2004 09:45 PM

OOH I told you Coach would beat Tajiri by interference.

AareDub 04-18-2004 09:47 PM

Yea, I thought it was pretty obvious that Coach was gonna win.

tipster points++

KingofOldSchool 04-18-2004 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ketchupisyourfriend
The really sad thing is that the WWE will probably credit the low buyrate to Benoit being champ.

Good.

Savio 04-18-2004 10:03 PM

only 15 replies!?!? King was funny during Val vs matt

Savio 04-18-2004 10:09 PM

What match is on now?

Dark-Slicer Diago 04-18-2004 10:09 PM

Chris Jericho beat Trish and Christian

Funky Fly 04-18-2004 10:29 PM

Man, Vince must hate Japanese people. They're all jobbers in the WWE. :'(

Rock Bottom 04-18-2004 10:34 PM

He doesn't seem to hate Jim Ross.

Rock Bottom 04-18-2004 10:40 PM

Oh, he's squinting all the time, my bad. :rant:

ItsTimeForAChange 04-18-2004 10:42 PM

I was really impressed and surprised by Ortons performance in his match with Mick. I have more respect for him.

Mikey 04-18-2004 10:46 PM

Tonight Orton and Foley became wrestling gods

AareDub 04-18-2004 10:47 PM

Based on the pbp the Orton/Foley match sounded damn good.

Heyman 04-18-2004 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock Bottom
Oh, he's squinting all the time, my bad. :rant:

LOL

Cactus Sid 04-18-2004 10:48 PM

All I can say is wow

I was really worried throughout that whole match that Foley was gonna taken a really stupid bump, and yes, ok, there was A LOT of garbage wrestling, but the tension and psychology of that match was amazing, things went in the right place, and Orton comes out of it ready for the Main Event, Foley made him look like a true Main Event player tonight, and I tell ya something, Orton in the Thumbtacks? You could see it coming in the match, but I never thought he'd do someting like that, props to him.

Also, can I just say this about Ric Flair..... Foley can't go 60 minutes with Guerrero, Angle or Benoit??? He was blown up after 6 minutes with Shelton Benjamin, and Foley definetly looked more in-shape in his match than I've seen him in years, so I hope that gives a big fu</>ck you to Flair.

Rock Bottom 04-18-2004 10:48 PM

:eek: at that match... I was just reading it. That's sick. I had no idea that Orton would take a tack-bump like that (he wrestles bare-backed). Wow, that's awesome. :y:

Heyman 04-18-2004 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikey
Tonight Orton and Foley became wrestling gods

Foley became a wrestling god a LONG time ago you nimrod.

But yes - Orton did further establish himself tonight. Great JOB by Foley.

AareDub 04-18-2004 10:49 PM

credit 4w-wrestling.com for this, but for those who aren't watching check out orton's back.
http://www.4w-wrestling.com/ppv/070.jpg

Cactus Sid 04-18-2004 10:51 PM

Got a pic of Mick's arm after the barbed wire bed bump?

Heyman 04-18-2004 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cactus Sid
All I can say is wow

I was really worried throughout that whole match that Foley was gonna taken a really stupid bump, and yes, ok, there was A LOT of garbage wrestling, but the tension and psychology of that match was amazing, things went in the right place, and Orton comes out of it ready for the Main Event, Foley made him look like a true Main Event player tonight, and I tell ya something, Orton in the Thumbtacks? You could see it coming in the match, but I never thought he'd do someting like that, props to him.

Also, can I just say this about Ric Flair..... Foley can't go 60 minutes with Guerrero, Angle or Benoit??? He was blown up after 6 minutes with Shelton Benjamin, and Foley definetly looked more in-shape in his match than I've seen him in years, so I hope that gives a big fu</>ck you to Flair.

Flair is over 50 years old you ignorant dipsh</>it. I'd like to see you wrestle for 6 minutes or more at that age.

Cactus Sid 04-18-2004 10:52 PM

I'm just suggesting that Flair should be less ignorant himself

ItsTimeForAChange 04-18-2004 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikey
Tonight Orton and Foley became wrestling gods

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock Bottom
at that match... I was just reading it. That's sick. I had no idea that Orton would take a tack-bump like that (he wrestles bare-backed). Wow, that's awesome.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cactus Sid
All I can say is wow

I was really worried throughout that whole match that Foley was gonna taken a really stupid bump, and yes, ok, there was A LOT of garbage wrestling, but the tension and psychology of that match was amazing, things went in the right place, and Orton comes out of it ready for the Main Event, Foley made him look like a true Main Event player tonight, and I tell ya something, Orton in the Thumbtacks? You could see it coming in the match, but I never thought he'd do someting like that, props to him.

Agreed :D

Definte props to Orton for the tacks bump and the big bump off the entrance.

AareDub 04-18-2004 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cactus Sid
Got a pic of Mick's arm after the barbed wire bed bump?

http://www.4w-wrestling.com/ppv/069.jpg

that's the best one they have of it. Again, credit 4w-wrestling.com

Rock Bottom 04-18-2004 10:53 PM

Holy shit, this is like the third time I have had this Deja Vu. Someone arguing about Flair being 50 years old, with a "Feuds you would like to see" thread right under this one. On a night with Orton vs. Foley. Wow... I am serious.

Evil Vito 04-18-2004 10:55 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Royal Rumble: The Royal Rumble Match
No Way Out: Brock/Eddie
Wrestlemania: Eddie/Angle and Benoit/HHH/HBK

And now Backlash gives us Foley/Orton and possibly the triple threat match

4 PPVs in a row with MOTYC =</font> :y:

Cactus Sid 04-18-2004 10:55 PM

The should have played up the box in the corner

Loose Cannon 04-18-2004 10:55 PM

OMG, I just got back from a school project thing and I'm hearing about the Orton match and seeing these awesome pics. Someone get me a fk'n towel.

AareDub 04-18-2004 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
OMG, I just got back from a school project thing and I'm hearing about the Orton match and seeing these awesome pics. Someone get me a fk'n towel.

In case you didn't hear about the finish, Orton landed two RKO's. One by reversing a socko attempt and the other landed on the barbed wire or something. Figured you'd need a towel after those.

Cactus Sid 04-18-2004 10:59 PM

They should've put this match on before Foley/Orton, it has no heat at all

Loose Cannon 04-18-2004 10:59 PM

RANDY ORTON "HARDCORE LEGEND" Believe It!!!!!

Loose Cannon 04-18-2004 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ketchupisyourfriend
In case you didn't hear about the finish, Orton landed two RKO's. One by reversing a socko attempt and the other landed on the barbed wire or something. Figured you'd need a towel after those.

Holy Shit, are you kidding. Definately buying the DVD when it comes out.

Rock Bottom 04-18-2004 11:01 PM

ROFL @ LC. You are like the die-hardest Orton mark ever.

Mikey 04-18-2004 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heyman
Foley became a wrestling god a LONG time ago you nimrod.

But yes - Orton did further establish himself tonight. Great JOB by Foley.


I meant more of one you dumbass. I meant that because he did the job to Orton :roll:

AareDub 04-18-2004 11:03 PM

Yea, Foley is the man for putting over Orton.

Loose Cannon 04-18-2004 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock Bottom
ROFL @ LC. You are like the die-hardest Orton mark ever.

:D

Rock Bottom 04-18-2004 11:14 PM

Congratulations Kane, you are now Rhyno. What the fuc</>k is that.

AareDub 04-18-2004 11:14 PM

Wow, I'm not even remotely interested in this main event.

Loose Cannon 04-18-2004 11:15 PM

what happened RB?

Hired Hitman 04-18-2004 11:20 PM

ORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTON :cool:

JeremyTB29 04-18-2004 11:21 PM

omg Shawn using the sharp shooter in Edmonton with Earl as the ref lol.Fans erupted with boos.You screwed Bret chants.

Mikey 04-18-2004 11:21 PM

LOL @ Shawn Michaels heat and You screwed Bret chants

Rock Bottom 04-18-2004 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
what happened RB?

Edge>Kane in a highly gay match. I swear Kane is like the biggest pussy now.

OssMan 04-18-2004 11:24 PM

Jesus this is gonna be a long match.

Loose Cannon 04-18-2004 11:25 PM

You think HBK'S turning?

JeremyTB29 04-18-2004 11:25 PM

lmao Shawn is getting pissed off at the crowd.

Rock Bottom 04-18-2004 11:27 PM

Yeah, they all hate Shawn. And I am pretty sure Michaels is gonna get some "You tapped out" chants tomorrow night. Dunno if the WWE will act on it, but Michaels could probably get the heat for a turn.

CBright7831 04-18-2004 11:27 PM

I've been reading the results and this PPV sounds kind of eeeehhh.

How has it been?

Rock Bottom 04-18-2004 11:30 PM

OMG BRET HART BRET HART BRET HART BRET HART BRET HART

Rock Bottom 04-18-2004 11:30 PM

(Is not at Backlash)

Loose Cannon 04-18-2004 11:30 PM

bullshit

Loose Cannon 04-18-2004 11:30 PM

lol

Rock Bottom 04-18-2004 11:31 PM

Yeah I figured it's what Rob would do if he were on.

Loose Cannon 04-18-2004 11:34 PM

Hey do you guys have pics of Orton doing the RKO to Foley?

RGWhat316 04-18-2004 11:35 PM

Well, Im not able to watch the ppv tonight, but after reading results it seems like Orton/Foley is the show stealer thus far. And after watching heat, Coach has his own shirt now? wtf?

Mikey 04-18-2004 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RGWhat316
Coach has his own shirt now? wtf?


Its about time he got one :D

CBright7831 04-18-2004 11:37 PM

The entrances are probably going to be longer than the actual match.

Cactus Sid 04-18-2004 11:40 PM

BENOIT SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

JeremyTB29 04-18-2004 11:40 PM

omg Shawn Taps out to the sharpshooter!!!! Benoit retains!

Mikey 04-18-2004 11:41 PM

Pretty good match but not as good as WM 20 IMO

CBright7831 04-18-2004 11:42 PM

It's already over?

Rock Bottom 04-18-2004 11:44 PM

HAHA, Michaels you little bitch, you should have done that at Survivor Series.

Cactus Sid 04-18-2004 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikey
Pretty good match but not as good as WM 20 IMO

Agreed, it didn't have that spark that Mania had.

Cactus Sid 04-18-2004 11:46 PM

It got about half an hour

CBright7831 04-18-2004 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cactus Sid
It got about half an hour

Jesus.

I was watching Kill Bill. :-\

Funky Fly 04-18-2004 11:49 PM

Damn, I called the finish perfectly. HBK jobbed to the Sharpshooter.

Loose Cannon 04-18-2004 11:50 PM

lol at Michaels tapping to the shooter.

Rock Bottom 04-18-2004 11:51 PM

Yeah, I bet that is Vince/Shawn's subtle way of telling Bret they're sorry.

Dazz 04-18-2004 11:53 PM

Ric Flair :(.

Good match between Foley and Orton, seemed like it really would have hurt them. Orton's nuts are gunna be sore in the morning. :$.

Good to see Jericho win at a PPV

LOFL at Eugine.

Shawn should have just ignored the fans, but its good that he tapped to the Sharpshooter, I thought he would tap, but not to the Sharpshooter.

Cactus Sid 04-18-2004 11:53 PM

As I will be tomorrow :cool: (about watching kill bill)

Overall the show was good, it had 1 really good match and 1 MOTY candidate, 2 out of 7 ain't bad, when you consider the other 5 weren't terrible. Flair/Benjamin was your standard short Flair match, Victoria/Lita was good for a Lita match, but she was really nervy, Coach/Tajiri wasn't as terrible as it could be, and starts a program for Garrison Cade/Tajiri which could be a good match given time, Jericho vs Xian/Trish was fairly good, good stuff between Xian and Jericho, perhaps not as good as there WM match, but not bad nevertheless, La Resistance/Rosey and Hurricane was a filler, good time for a bog break or grab a snack. Only REAL disappointment was Kane/Edge, but that was killed by the crowd.

The WWE did really well in getting over both Benoit and Orton tonight, they really did shine through.

Gerard 04-18-2004 11:55 PM

Has foley ever actually won a big match in wwf\wwe wrestling as cactus jack? Seems everytime he unveils that character leading into a ppv match he loses.

#1-norm-fan 04-19-2004 12:02 AM

The first half of the PPV was better than the second half. Main event was alright but HBK tapping sucked. Why the F are they buring him? The man still has more talent than half the god damn roster combined!

HBK should have won the title at WM and then lost it to Benoit tonight.

Boondock Saint 04-19-2004 12:09 AM

How are they burying HBK?

#1-norm-fan 04-19-2004 12:11 AM

By just putting him in two straight triple threat matches as a filler for the HHH-Benoit feud. Also, I just hate it when main event faces tap out.

Mr. Nerfect 04-19-2004 12:11 AM

I don't know why, but I hated the ending to the Triple Threat. Good tribute to Bret and everything, but I was hoping for Michaels to Sweet Chin Music Benoit out of nowhere and run off with the title to the biggest heat ever. :-\

Good PPV. I'm hyped about Orton after that. MOTYC, indeed (but what do you expect from Orton). I'm going to piss myself if he's ever in a Ladder Match. :drool:

Funky Fly 04-19-2004 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan
By just putting him in two straight triple threat matches as a filler for the HHH-Benoit feud. Also, I just hate it when main event faces tap out.

If anything, this triple threat ended HHH/Benoit and HHH/HBK. It looks like the beginning of HBK/Benoit to me.

Innovator 04-19-2004 01:00 AM

Theyre not burying HBK, theyre pushing Benoit, BIG difference

Corkscrewed 04-19-2004 01:32 AM

Wow, three pages. I guess just like me, no one remembered this PPV, LOL.

Foley vs Orton was definitely the best match of the night, but a bit w00t to Benoit making Michaels tap out. He's like unbeatable now. Seriously... besides Michaels, he has no one to feud with.

I suggest Jericho. When his feud with Christian wraps up, Beniot should be done w/ HBK...

TazroK 04-19-2004 01:36 AM

Only good moment was seeing all the tacks in Orton's back.

PureHatred 04-19-2004 01:36 AM

Foley/Orton match of the year candidate. I'm officially jumping on the Randy Orton bandwagon. This match really impressed me.

The Triple threat was great IMO. Benoit made HHH tap, then HBK, and it really solidified him as a champ. I'm hoping he moves on to a face/face feud with Y2J.

SammyG 04-19-2004 01:41 AM

So, does anyone else think its ironic that Shawn tapped out to the Sharpshooter, after thinking about the survivor series screwjob? do u think this could be a way of shawn sayin that enuff of all the hate hes been gettin in canada, and this is a way to shut up the fans?

6to1 04-19-2004 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corkscrewed
Wow, three pages. I guess just like me, no one remembered this PPV, LOL.

Foley vs Orton was definitely the best match of the night, but a bit w00t to Benoit making Michaels tap out. He's like unbeatable now. Seriously... besides Michaels, he has no one to feud with.

I suggest Jericho. When his feud with Christian wraps up, Beniot should be done w/ HBK...

yea too bad they moved booker, y2j is all that is left unless big show goes to raw

RGWhat316 04-19-2004 01:56 AM

After reading through the results, especially on a ppv, is there such thing as a finishing maneuver anymore? Some of the victories were by a clothesline, enzeguri, and rollups. Only the big matches had an actual finishing maneuver used. I was just wondering why we've seen quite a bit of that lately.

And as Gerard mentioned, I don't think the Cactus Jack character has really helped Foley right before a big match. In Foley's last year of 2000, he became Cactus Jack and lost to HHH twice in a Street Fight and Hell in a Cell.

SammyG 04-19-2004 01:58 AM

IF U WANNA SEE ORTON VS CENA AT WMXX GIMME A HELL YEEAAHHH!!! lame attempt at trying to impersonate a wife beater, but oh well :p

SammyG 04-19-2004 02:02 AM

i mean, Wrestlemania 21

Rock Bottom 04-19-2004 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SammyG
So, does anyone else think its ironic that Shawn tapped out to the Sharpshooter, after thinking about the survivor series screwjob? do u think this could be a way of shawn sayin that enuff of all the hate hes been gettin in canada, and this is a way to shut up the fans?

I doubt, short of stopping a meteor that was going to impact directly on Canada, that Michaels will ever get anything but heel heat in Edmonton. However I think this may have been Vince/Shawn's subtle apology to Bret Hart.

Rock Bottom 04-19-2004 03:06 AM

Yeah, that is totally markish of me, but I don't care. They probably just did it for the pop.

The Forgotten One 04-19-2004 04:15 AM

I'm just really pissed the Kane lost to *sigh* Edge. :'(

Thats some total ****ing bullshit!!!!



He shouldn't be allowed to wear that cast. Blatant injury fake just to use a cast as a weapon. :shifty:

Dave Youell 04-19-2004 06:07 AM

Overall the PPV performed over my expectations. Backlash normally sucks, but they did a really good job with this one. I'm also jumping on the Randy Orton band wagon, Jesus that match went alot further than i thought it would. Props to both men.

And christ aint Foley lost alot and i mean ALOT of weight


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