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Destro 2.0 08-28-2010 08:11 PM

Alberto please calm down.
 
WWE newcomer Alberto Del Rio has already developed a bad reputation among those in the locker room. He has complained to fellow wrestlers about the company’s decision to remove the mask he donned while working in Mexico. Many feel he should be thrilled with the push WWE officials have given him thus far rather than moaning.


WWE has fucked over so many good wrestlers because of problems like this. I don't want him to be held back. Hes awesome what do you guys think should happen?

Wishbone 08-28-2010 08:21 PM

Meh I really don't care for Del Rio he's good in the ring but his mic skills are mediocre in my opinion.

Nark Order 08-28-2010 08:22 PM

The guy is solid and him complaining about not being able to wear his mask is completely understandable as it's seen as extremely disrespectful to "ditch the mask." He'll eventually get over it but I don't really blame him for at least being disappointed about it. That being said, he's a good looking strapping guy and is most likely more marketable without it. I can see it both ways.

Swiss Ultimate 08-28-2010 08:23 PM

I'm going to give him a few months. I'm betting he'll be better than Drew.

Next Big Thing 08-28-2010 08:26 PM

This guy is a star. Everything he does ring wise is good even his mannerisms. He'll get over it and be fine.

XCaliber 08-28-2010 08:35 PM

Can't say I blame him but he should be satisfied with the instant push he's gotten to get the rub going up against the likes of Rey Mysterio in your debut match is no small feat.

DLVH84 08-28-2010 09:06 PM

I can understand Dos Caras, Jr.'s disappointment with WWE forcing him remove his mask, which he wore nearly his entire career. Hopefully, he'll return to wearing his mask again.

Swiss Ultimate 08-28-2010 09:23 PM

Did he get to lose it in a match in Mexico at least, like Rey did in WCW?

DLVH84 08-28-2010 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeathtotheSwiss (Post 3219860)
Did he get to lose it in a match in Mexico at least, like Rey did in WCW?

No, he did not.

Kane Knight 08-28-2010 10:24 PM

Oh no, he doesn't like being unmasked! How long until the "In the doghouse" reports start flooding in?

Mr. Nerfect 08-28-2010 10:36 PM

I can understand why he's upset about losing his mask. There's a great importance on it in his culture. I hope that he understands how special the position he's been put in is, though. So far he's been nailing it, and people have been responding. He's gotten great heat, and his debut was fantastic, in that he actually seems like a credible threat.

VSG 08-28-2010 10:55 PM

It doesn't hurt that he gets to drive a new car each week on tv. I might go as far as to suggest an element of jealousy on the part of others.

St. Jimmy 08-29-2010 12:41 AM

He sucks.

Destro 2.0 08-29-2010 12:57 AM

I just don't want him getting fucked over on something so simple.

Next Big Thing 08-29-2010 09:09 AM

He won't. WWE is going to build him to replace Rey so they can keep tapping into the Hispanic audience. He'll probably get more chances than most.

Afterlife 08-29-2010 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 3220000)
Oh no, he doesn't like being unmasked! How long until the "In the doghouse" reports start flooding in?

He's been getting heat about his undeserved arrogance since they hired him.

Afterlife 08-29-2010 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destro 2.0 (Post 3220157)
I just don't want him getting fucked over on something so simple.

What "fucked over"? If he's going to be a cock, and gets fired for it, he did it to himself.

Nark Order 08-29-2010 03:54 PM

Alberto Del Rio, I just killed your mother and gave you 2 million dollars. WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU COMPLAINING? YOU HAVE 2 MILLION DOLLARS.

Destro 2.0 08-29-2010 03:55 PM

I do believe he has a right to voice his opinion. But at least he is not being like Drew McIntyre who expects everything given to him.

dronepool 08-29-2010 04:03 PM

He makes me think of a Mexican version of the Rock meets Pepé Le Pew.

Destro 2.0 08-29-2010 04:07 PM

I just think he is awesome I am not much for Mexican wrestlers but I just think he brings the Righteousness and the crush match he had with some Jobber was just awesome.

thedamndest 08-29-2010 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 3219797)
That being said, he's a good looking strapping guy and is most likely more marketable without it. I can see it both ways.

Gay.

thedamndest 08-29-2010 05:19 PM

Nah, the WWE style fits him better without the mask. I don't know much about Dos Caras but the WWE product is geared towards pushing guys with faces.

Nark Order 08-29-2010 05:37 PM

But what happens when the faces... PUSH BACK?

thedamndest 08-29-2010 05:40 PM

Face/Off starring Nic Cage as John Travolta and John Travolta as Nic Cage.

Nark Order 08-29-2010 05:42 PM

I guess that's not too far fetched after looking at Darren Young.

Destro 2.0 08-29-2010 06:10 PM

The mask doesn't fit with his gimmick I like him being the rich Mexican asshole. No just another Luchadore that comes to WWE and then gets pushed to jobber status like we have all seen happen.

The Pope 08-29-2010 07:02 PM

Dos Caras Jr. was a huge heel in CMLL.

DLVH84 08-29-2010 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Perfect (Post 3220832)
Dos Caras Jr. was a huge heel in CMLL.

Dr. Perfect knows what I'm talking about.

Destro 2.0 08-29-2010 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Perfect (Post 3220832)
Dos Caras Jr. was a huge heel in CMLL.

What was some of his best matches though? I am just getting into mexican wrestling. I just watched Vampiro vs El Mesisas from Triplemania 2008. It was awesome but sucked it ended in a no contest.

The Pope 08-29-2010 07:08 PM

Yeah, I posted the first vid of that very match not to long ago.... I can't find much matches of him but I posted one or two earlier today.

Destro 2.0 08-29-2010 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Perfect (Post 3220846)
Yeah, I posted the first vid of that very match not to long ago.... I can't find much matches of him but I posted one or two earlier today.

I watched his MMA stuff I saw the Belly to Belly suplex that broke that Japs arm. Its was sick.

The Pope 08-29-2010 07:14 PM

Yeah, on the 100,000 replies I posted two of his CMLL matches.

Destro 2.0 08-29-2010 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Perfect (Post 3220859)
Yeah, on the 100,000 replies I posted two of his CMLL matches.

I don't mean to get off topic but are we actually having a conversation?

FourFifty 08-29-2010 07:18 PM

Didn't the dude get a clean submission victory over a former WHC in his debut?
AND HE'S BITCHING ABOUT A MASK!?!?!?!

What a douche.

Destro 2.0 08-29-2010 07:20 PM

I think he will calm down after a while and then things will be all right. He is still adjusting and I know WWE fought to get him for a year or so. Him and Danielson could have a great match.

The Pope 08-29-2010 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destro 2.0 (Post 3220864)
I don't mean to get off topic but are we actually having a conversation?

I guess, It's one of the few times I talk about wrestling :lol:

Destro 2.0 08-29-2010 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Perfect (Post 3220870)
I guess, It's one of the few times I talk about wrestling :lol:

I just thought you were part of everyone kill Destro. But anyways back on topic.

The Pope 08-29-2010 07:27 PM

I believe that most people in the U.S don't know what the masks mean to the Mexican wrestlers so they are like "who cares?"

Destro 2.0 08-29-2010 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Perfect (Post 3220888)
I believe that most people in the U.S don't know what the masks mean to the Mexican wrestlers so they are like "who cares?"

I understand and you are right nobody does or understand a Luchadore losing his mask in mexico is sometimes a death sentence to there career or they find themselves working for Ian Rotten.

The Pope 08-29-2010 07:30 PM

Yeah, most of them legitamately cry when they lose their mask.

Rollerskategirl 08-29-2010 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 3220000)
Oh no, he doesn't like being unmasked! How long until the "In the doghouse" reports start flooding in?

Right after he out pops DX

Destro 2.0 08-29-2010 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Perfect (Post 3220901)
Yeah, most of them legitamately cry when they lose their mask.

Very few have recovered and there have only been a few break out stars to make it without masks. Vampiro and Mark Jindrak are only the 2 I know of. I am sure there is more.

The Pope 08-29-2010 07:33 PM

When he quits and returns to either CMLL or AAA

The Pope 08-29-2010 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destro 2.0 (Post 3220911)
Very few have recovered and there have only been a few break out stars to make it without masks. Vampiro and Mark Jindrak are only the 2 I know of. I am sure there is more.

Yeah, El Zorro...
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2457/...beb4bb27d4.jpg
http://a.imageshack.us/img359/3380/e...luchalibre.jpg

Destro 2.0 08-29-2010 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Perfect (Post 3220912)
When he quits and returns to either CMLL or AAA

Hell he is the Nephew of the biggest and most legendary Luchadore of all time. Mil Masacaras I highly doubt he would have trouble recovering.

The Pope 08-29-2010 07:43 PM

And his dad, Dos Caras Sr.

Destro 2.0 08-29-2010 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Perfect (Post 3220921)

Charly manson?

The Pope 08-29-2010 07:44 PM

No that's El Zorro with and without the mask.... never changed his name. He's great with a kendo stick.

Destro 2.0 08-29-2010 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Perfect (Post 3220935)
No that's El Zorro with and without the mask.... never changed his name. He's great with a kendo stick.

No I mean didn't Charly Manson also start without a mask?

The Pope 08-29-2010 07:47 PM

I've never seen him with a mask on though.

Destro 2.0 08-29-2010 07:47 PM

What about Lizmark Jr.? What do you think of him?

The Pope 08-29-2010 07:51 PM

He's ok... pretty famous, never really seen much of him though.

Destro 2.0 08-29-2010 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Perfect (Post 3220950)
He's ok... pretty famous, never really seen much of him though.

Yeah same here.

DLVH84 08-29-2010 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destro 2.0 (Post 3220979)
Yeah same here.

He pretty much stayed in Mexico after WCW.

Mr. Nerfect 08-30-2010 01:39 AM

It's better he doesn't have the mask, it's just something that is probably a pretty big deal to him. I'd much rather see them keep masks to a minimum, and I like the idea of Los Aviadores coming up to SmackDown!.

Supreme Olajuwon 08-30-2010 01:42 AM

That El Zorro mask is pretty sick.

4 knuckles up 08-30-2010 09:50 PM

This is the kind of thing he should be going for...

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