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SOCCER LEGS 10-03-2010 07:59 PM
Kurt Angle: A Shakespearean Tragedy
 
blog piece i just wrote. thought i'd post it here and get some feedback.

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Once upon a time, Kurt Angle was the crown jewel of sports entertainment. He was the total package; an ultra-talented in-ring performer, a bedazzler on the microphone and a dependable company man. His ties to the attitude-era drove up his stock within pro wrestling, and his reputation as an Olympic athlete lent credibility to the entire WWE. During his tenure in WWE Angle put on some of the greatest matches of recent history while working with the likes of Eddie Guerrero, Shawn Michaels and Brock Lesnar.

Today, the Kurt Angle of TNA is a shadow of his former self. The quality of his matches has dropped considerably and he resides on a roster that is bloated with egomaniacs and WWE outcasts. Outside of the ring, his personal life has fallen into a Lohan-esque downward spiral. His use of both performance enhancing drugs and narcotics has been well documented. Angle's wife and the mother of his two children left him for his boss and former friend Jeff Jarrett. Additionally, Angle has recently been involved in several run-ins with the law including a somewhat disturbing stalking allegation.

How did Angle fall this far? TNA enabled him to.

TNA lacks the willingness to take a hard stance against its performers who conduct themselves unprofessionally. This is especially true when it involves a top draw such as Angle. TNA's decision to turn a blind eye to Angle's bad behavior outside the ring and allow him to continue to collect paychecks has allowed them to retain their top star at the expense of his wellbeing. Essentially, TNA has taken the easy way out. Rather than taking a proactive approach and having a tough conversation with their star, TNA chose to pretend that the problem didn't exist. With no incentive not to engage in these self-destructive behaviors, Angle began falling apart at the seams.

TNA's most glaring and inexcusable action here is their failure to institute an effective wellness policy. It's no secret that over the last few years Kurt Angle hasn't quite been sober as a bird. In fact, in a recent interview Angle mentioned that his drug use was a large factor in the collapse of his marriage. It is reasonable to think that if TNA had a system of drug testing in place, Angle's problem with substance abuse could have been nipped in the bud and many of the issues in his personal life could have been averted. Beyond that, it should be mentioned how grossly irresponsible it is that TNA puts such little effort into protecting the health of its performers in an industry that has been plagued by premature deaths over recent years.

Where does Kurt Angle go from here? With his recent contract extension it's safe to say that Angle will remain at TNA for the near future. Kurt has stated that he wants to retire from professional wrestling in the near future to pursue an acting career. Unfortunately for Angle this is a rather far fetched plan. Angle isn't the household name that The Rock and Steve Austin were which opened the doors for them into acting, and he will never achieve that sort of stature working in TNA. Given the recent push by the WWE into the film industry it's a bit surprising Kurt hasn't shown any interesting in returning to the company that launched his career. Kurt and Vince might not have parted ways on the best of terms, but Vince is known for letting bygones be bygones in the name of good business, and Angle returning to the WWE would be great business for both parties. I would speculate that Angle's lack of desire to return to the WWE is him not wanting to swallow his pride.

Every tragic hero has a tragic flaw. In the case of Kurt Angle that tragic flaw is certainly his decision to sign with TNA. However, every tragic figure also has the opportunity to redeem itself and make things right. As Kurt approaches the twilight of his career, here's to hoping he hasn't missed that opportunity.
http://awgth.blogspot.com/

Juan 10-03-2010 08:43 PM
tl;dr

VSG 10-03-2010 09:08 PM
That wasn't bad actually.

Skippord 10-03-2010 09:18 PM
I didn't read this, but you are definitely a huge weirdo for writing it

thedamndest 10-03-2010 10:15 PM
It's a labored analogy but it's a decent blog.

Destro 2.0 10-03-2010 10:38 PM
I agree 100 percent if this doesn't show that in TNA your performance really suffers then you are just and fucking moron or Bigslimjj.

XL 10-03-2010 11:19 PM
Dunno. Maybe Kurt should take some responsibility for his own problems...

Destro 2.0 10-03-2010 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by XL (Post 3269506)
Dunno. Maybe Kurt should take some responsibility for his own problems...
Yeah but the company he works for should also muster up the courage to say something to him. Not just him either the Machine Guns have been caught smoking weed. Lets not forget they have random drug tests but anyone who tests positive never gets anything done to them.

XL 10-03-2010 11:23 PM
What's CZW's "Wellness Policy" like?

Or is that an oxymoron?

CSL 10-03-2010 11:31 PM
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The quality of his matches has dropped considerably
what

Destro 2.0 10-03-2010 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by XL (Post 3269519)
What's CZW's "Wellness Policy" like?

Or is that an oxymoron?
They don't have one unlike TNA who claims to have one and does nothing about it. Maybe you should watch a CZW show before you just think they are all Lighttubes which is not true.

Lock Jaw 10-04-2010 12:32 AM
I am still greatly entertained by Kurt Angle. It is just a shame that I can only bring myself to watch maybe one TNA show every few months nowadays.

crusnik 10-04-2010 01:07 AM
i agree that Kurt Angle should go back to the WWE.The pg thing is more to his style anyway really (though he has shown he can brawl when needed)if he was smart , he'd go to wwe when his contract expires and make a freah start.

Destro 2.0 10-04-2010 01:39 AM
Also how is Kurt Supposed to stay off the Pain Killers when they make him wrestle a gimmick match almost every other show.

Kane Knight 10-04-2010 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Destro 2.0 (Post 3269654)
Also how is Kurt Supposed to stay off the Pain Killers when they make he wrestle a gimmick match almost every other show.
While I won't say TNA isn't (at least) an enabler, surely Kurt Angle has some say in those matches. It's not like he's random jobber #4.

Juan 10-04-2010 01:46 AM
make he wrestles

Destro 2.0 10-04-2010 02:17 AM
If I had to work for dumb Cunt like Dixie Carter plus Russo,Bischoff, and Hogan I would be popping pills like they were going out of style.

Juan 10-04-2010 02:26 AM
puls Russo

Destro 2.0 10-04-2010 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Juan (Post 3269681)
puls Russo
Would you quit fucking with my posts?

Juan 10-04-2010 02:29 AM
Exhibit #33 that you are indeed Kane86

Destro 2.0 10-04-2010 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Juan (Post 3269685)
Exhibit #33 that you are indeed Kane86
No I am not you and other Mods have to ability to delete and or merge posts in threads. Which in turn would give you the option to alter and or mold the posts into what you want. Now what you don't have is the access to tracing IP address and in turn you are a fucking moron.

Juan 10-04-2010 02:39 AM
ok, diaper boy

Jeritron 10-04-2010 02:46 AM
Why is Juan a snitch?

SaskatchewanChamp 10-04-2010 02:50 AM
Angle still puts on amazing matches, as long as he does that, he is just fine in my book.

Destro 2.0 10-04-2010 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by SaskatchewanChamp (Post 3269709)
Angle still puts on amazing matches, as long as he does that, he is just fine in my book.
Yeah but when he over dose's it will be kind of hard for him to put on amazing matches. At least in WWE he could have been sent to rehab or something.

SaskatchewanChamp 10-04-2010 02:57 AM
What he is taking, or said too be taking, is none of your or anyone's business. That is all.

Juan 10-04-2010 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 3269703)
Why is Juan a snitch?
It's the exact same shit Kane86 used to tell me. So it's pretty easy to conclude that Destro = Kane86

The fact that he continues to deny it is kind of sad tbh

Destro 2.0 10-04-2010 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by SaskatchewanChamp (Post 3269713)
What he is taking, or said too be taking, is none of your or anyone's business. That is all.
It is his fans business because maybe they still want him around unlike you.

SaskatchewanChamp 10-04-2010 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Destro 2.0 (Post 3269715)
It is his fans business because maybe they still want him around unlike you.
In any sport, and I use the word sport referring to wrestling very loosely, as long as they are performing right now, and putting on great matches, it's none of the fans business what the athlete does outside of the game. So mind your own damn business KANE86

Destro 2.0 10-04-2010 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by SaskatchewanChamp (Post 3269717)
In any sport, and I use the word sport referring to wrestling very loosely, as long as they are performing right now, and putting on great matches, it's none of the fans business what the athlete does outside of the game. So mind your own damn business KANE86
What the fuck is the deal with the Kane86 references? I have no Idea who or what the fucking thing is.

Then again you are just some fucking idiot who judges everyone without even knowing them.

SaskatchewanChamp 10-04-2010 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Destro 2.0 (Post 3269718)
Then again you are just some fucking idiot who judges everyone without even knowing them.

I am a good judge of character. Go too bed now before your mother comes into your room and catches you whacking off too pictures of your Indie wrestling pictures you have hanging in your bedroom above your bed.

Jeritron 10-04-2010 03:07 AM
http://allaboutdiapers.com/wp-conten...lt-diapers.jpg

Destro 2.0 10-04-2010 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted by SaskatchewanChamp (Post 3269719)
I am a good judge of character. Go too bed now before your mother comes into your room and catches you whacking off too pictures of your Indie wrestling pictures you have hanging in your bedroom above your bed.
Yeah because you know me so fucking well don't you have to go Ice Fishing with your buddies and by Ice Fishing I mean you guys get in your shacks and have sex with each others butts.

Juan 10-04-2010 03:09 AM
http://www.zgeek.com/forum/gallery/f...ipplefight.jpg

Destro 2.0 10-04-2010 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 3269720)
Why are you showing me this?

SaskatchewanChamp 10-04-2010 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Destro 2.0 (Post 3269721)
Yeah because you know me so fucking well don't you have to go Ice Fishing with your buddies and by Ice Fishing I mean you guys get in your shacks and have sex with each others butts.
No ice on the lake yet

Jeritron 10-04-2010 03:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Destro 2.0 (Post 3269723)
Why are you showing me this?
Oh okay. His story checks out guys. Can't be him. Well played

SaskatchewanChamp 10-04-2010 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 3269726)
Oh okay. His story checks out guys. Can't be him. Well played
Or maybe,.... he is playing like he doesn't know, but he really does! :shifty:

Destro 2.0 10-04-2010 03:16 AM
Look we are here to talk about KURT FUCKING ANGLE! Not here to debate if I am Kane86,Kane87,JeffBlue42, or who ever you people fear. I AM DESTRO THE MOST PROLIFIC OF POSTERS ON THIS FORUM AND I AM JUST AN ALL AROUND REMARKABLE PERSON!

Jeritron 10-04-2010 03:19 AM
I fear JeffBlue42

SaskatchewanChamp 10-04-2010 03:19 AM
You are an idiot.

Kurt Angle FTW

Destro 2.0 10-04-2010 03:20 AM
So anyways I do agree with what was typed Kurt Angle is suffering a great deal and his beard is just weird.

SaskatchewanChamp 10-04-2010 03:20 AM
Maybe he needs just for men

Destro 2.0 10-04-2010 03:22 AM
The main problem with TNA is that they are going to put the strap on him again. Its True, ITS DAMN TRUE!

SaskatchewanChamp 10-04-2010 03:25 AM
Have you seen his matches lately? They are the best matches on TV, that includes WWE, ROH, or whatever else is on TV now a days.

Destro 2.0 10-04-2010 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by SaskatchewanChamp (Post 3269737)
Have you seen his matches lately? They are the best matches on TV, that includes WWE, ROH, or whatever else is on TV now a days.
Yes he has good matches but Holy Fuck its TNA it doesn't matter who you put the belt on. That Company is a sinking ship.

Sorry there is no way he can hold a candle to ROH. It would be nice to see him do a one shot deal there against Davey Richards.

Jeritron 10-04-2010 03:29 AM
Destro 2.0 is Kane86 and vice versa. This is a fact. Either that or they post from the same house.
The IP addresses match. I'm not bluffing to make you admit it either, so give that a rest. I looked into it.

Jeritron 10-04-2010 03:30 AM
You're not with Con Ed or the phone company. So tell me another one

SaskatchewanChamp 10-04-2010 03:31 AM
I, again, don't know what ROH is.

TNA ratings are going up, you watch. Especially after the bullshit they pulled with The Undertaker/Kane match, I have never been left with such a "What The Fuck was that" thought in my mind after a PPV in my life.

Destro 2.0 10-04-2010 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 3269742)
Destro 2.0 is Kane86 and vice versa. This is a fact. Either that or they post from the same house.
The IP addresses match. I'm not bluffing to make you admit it either, so give that a rest. I looked into it.
I'm not Kane86 you are playing bad cop in order to get me to admit into something that I am not guilty of.

I don't understand why I am not allowed to come here and discuss wrestling. I am human being with rights.

Jeritron 10-04-2010 03:33 AM
You have the right to remain silent

Destro 2.0 10-04-2010 03:40 AM
So anyways Kurt in no way will make it in movies. Did you see End Game?

SaskatchewanChamp 10-04-2010 03:43 AM
Who cares about movies? John Cena is in quite a few movies, how is that working out for him?

Juan 10-04-2010 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Destro 2.0 (Post 3269750)
I'm not Kane86 you are playing bad cop in order to get me to admit into something that I am not guilty of.

I don't understand why I am not allowed to come here and discuss wrestling. I am human being with rights.
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Originally Posted by Destro 2.0 (Post 3269755)
So anyways Kurt in no way will make it in movies. Did you see End Game?
lol

SaskatchewanChamp 10-04-2010 03:58 AM
Shh!

Juan 10-04-2010 04:00 AM
shh my nuts in yr. mouth

SaskatchewanChamp 10-04-2010 04:02 AM
Not sure what that means, so please shh, thanks.

owenbrown 10-04-2010 04:55 AM
I swear the more I come into the wrestling forum the more the trolls make me wanna bash my head through my computer monitor. How the hell do you mods do not have banning powers?

Rammsteinmad 10-04-2010 06:02 AM
Kurt Angle and the word 'tragedy' don't belong in the same sentence.

Tom Guycott 10-04-2010 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Destro 2.0 (Post 3269750)
I don't understand why I am not allowed to come here and discuss wrestling. I am human being with rights.
I'm no mod, have no political stroke, and barely have any tenure around here, but if you seriously want an honest answer as to why you get treated so poorly, since you can't seem to see it yourself for so much denial:

-You occasionally have a flash of brilliance... only to erase it three-fold by talking about how shitty TNA is, even if the thread has NOTHING to do with anyone liking TNA.

-You seem to pick a target (slimjj, xero, etc...) and constantly shit on them for no reason, even when whatever your problem is with them, again, has NOTHING to do with the thread or if they've posted in said thread or not.

-You post shit like this...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Destro 2.0 (Post 3269750)
Look we are here to talk about KURT FUCKING ANGLE! Not here to debate if I am Kane86,Kane87,JeffBlue42, or who ever you people fear. I AM DESTRO THE MOST PROLIFIC OF POSTERS ON THIS FORUM AND I AM JUST AN ALL AROUND REMARKABLE PERSON!
...leaving the door wide open for people to flame you. Then, you act shocked and amazed when they do.

-Petty crap like getting streams shut down under the guise of "I just want to do the right thing", but it was painfully obvious you were doing it for the lulz. If you were so honest and rightous, you wouldn't have been attention seeking in putting up "notches on the bed" posts after every single shut down caused by you. You just wanted to piss people off, and acting like you weren't trying to piss people off pissed them off more.

-If someone disagrees with you, they become "morons", "niggers", or involved in some form of homosexual activity with some variation of family members, other posters, or a wrestler you don't like. Again, this is obviously to get a rise out of other posters, and the whole "oh, I didn't know this would make you sooo mad" stance you take is insulting to the intelligence.

You seriously have to know this stuff. Most of the time you post things like you've gone off some heavy meds for a couple of days. You present yourself as a troll, in every variation of the definition, and this is precisely why you get such substandard treatment in these forums.

It's likely you'll post some follow-up "Explain to me how I..." type of post, or neg rep me, add me to your shit list of posters who wronged you is some cosmic way, or a combination of the above. I also realize I just painted a big, red target on my back, and quite frankly, I don't give a rat's ass.

TL;DR? Here's the long and short of it:

Don't be such an intolerable douchebag, and people will be less inclined to throwing vinegar your way. Simple as that.

XL 10-04-2010 08:43 AM
AMEN!

XL 10-04-2010 08:45 AM
As for Angle, didn't he leave WWE because Vince wanted him to take some time off/get help? I don't see him getting clean for a WWE return. He's too imbedded into the cycle of drug abuse at this point.

RP 10-04-2010 08:50 AM
LOL Destro2.0 is amazing . I need more of this guy.

Theo Dious 10-04-2010 08:51 AM
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TNA lacks the willingness to take a hard stance against its performers who conduct themselves unprofessionally.
If TNA took any kind of stance against drug use or unprofessional behavior most of its roster with any kind of name recognition would be gone.

Johnny McNasty 10-04-2010 09:02 AM
You could say that same thing about WWE, or any other wrestling company in the history of professional wrestling to be honest.

SOCCER LEGS 10-04-2010 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Johnny McNasty (Post 3269861)
You could say that same thing about WWE, or any other wrestling company in the history of professional wrestling to be honest.
perhaps historically yes but in recent years WWE has really stepped up their game in the light of all the premature deaths we've seen. considering the dire situation many of these performers are placed in, its a shame TNA won't do the same.

itsmeJD 10-04-2010 09:47 AM
TNA can't establish a drug policy and enforce it...doing so gets rid of one of the perks of working for TNA....just ask Jeff Harvey..

The Pope 10-04-2010 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by SOCCER LEGS (Post 3268897)
Today, the Kurt Angle of TNA is a shadow of his former self. The quality of his matches has dropped considerably
:rofl:

Jeritron 10-04-2010 12:34 PM
Shell of his former self.

The Pope 10-04-2010 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Destro 2.0 (Post 3269733)
So anyways I do agree with what was typed Kurt Angle is suffering a great deal and his beard is just weird.
The beard is just for a movie he's doing. He said it himself on twitter.

parkmania 10-04-2010 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by SOCCER LEGS (Post 3268897)
Angle's wife and the mother of his two children left him for his boss and former friend Jeff Jarrett.
It has been stated by multiple sources close to the situation that Karen did not start dating Jeff until after she and Angle were officially divorced, so saying that she left him FOR Jarrett is inaccurate.
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Additionally, Angle has recently been involved in several run-ins with the law including a somewhat disturbing stalking allegation.
If you're talking about the Rhaka Khan situation, it was proven in a court of law that SHE was the one stalking HIM.

Facts: Try them sometime.

Aguakate 10-04-2010 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by parkmania (Post 3270122)

If you're talking about the Rhaka Khan situation, it was proven in a court of law that SHE was the one stalking HIM.

Facts: Try them sometime.
...he's just a "Sexy Kurt".

Destro 2.0 10-04-2010 01:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Guycott (Post 3269827)
I'm no mod, have no political stroke, and barely have any tenure around here, but if you seriously want an honest answer as to why you get treated so poorly, since you can't seem to see it yourself for so much denial:

-You occasionally have a flash of brilliance... only to erase it three-fold by talking about how shitty TNA is, even if the thread has NOTHING to do with anyone liking TNA.

-You seem to pick a target (slimjj, xero, etc...) and constantly shit on them for no reason, even when whatever your problem is with them, again, has NOTHING to do with the thread or if they've posted in said thread or not.

-You post shit like this...



...leaving the door wide open for people to flame you. Then, you act shocked and amazed when they do.

-Petty crap like getting streams shut down under the guise of "I just want to do the right thing", but it was painfully obvious you were doing it for the lulz. If you were so honest and rightous, you wouldn't have been attention seeking in putting up "notches on the bed" posts after every single shut down caused by you. You just wanted to piss people off, and acting like you weren't trying to piss people off pissed them off more.

-If someone disagrees with you, they become "morons", "niggers", or involved in some form of homosexual activity with some variation of family members, other posters, or a wrestler you don't like. Again, this is obviously to get a rise out of other posters, and the whole "oh, I didn't know this would make you sooo mad" stance you take is insulting to the intelligence.

You seriously have to know this stuff. Most of the time you post things like you've gone off some heavy meds for a couple of days. You present yourself as a troll, in every variation of the definition, and this is precisely why you get such substandard treatment in these forums.

It's likely you'll post some follow-up "Explain to me how I..." type of post, or neg rep me, add me to your shit list of posters who wronged you is some cosmic way, or a combination of the above. I also realize I just painted a big, red target on my back, and quite frankly, I don't give a rat's ass.

TL;DR? Here's the long and short of it:

Don't be such an intolerable douchebag, and people will be less inclined to throwing vinegar your way. Simple as that.



You honestly have no Idea what anyone is talking about.....

XL 10-04-2010 06:32 PM
Strange. I thought he was pretty bang on with most of that.


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