What is TNA doing right?
 

With all the TNA bashing that goes on in here I thought it would be a nice change of pace to spotlight the good points of TNA.

So lets hear what you think TNA is doing right. Answers like : fuck all", "nothing" and "its TNA they do nothing right" are not acceptable.

Tag Division

Team 3D is going to beat MCMG.

They have a pretty damn good roster.

Icing bros

Definitely. By several miles too. MCMG and Beer Money are probably my favorite attraction to watch from TNA. WWE only has one great tag team (Hart Dynasty) and it appears they are being broken up.

Spending $15,000 on so crappy reality show person.

nWo version 7.5.

Overuse of blood.

Re-signing Team 3D.

Dixie Carter on TV more.

Mike Tenay still on commentary.

Knockout Divison.


Oh, I'm sorry, were you asking for things TNA does RIGHT?

I don't think anyone can answer that.

Honestly, bringing J-Woww onto their show was a good move. They need exposure desperately, and that's as good of a celebrity appearance as they have ever had.
It's even good by WWE standards. It's a bigger deal and more current than any of the Raw guest hosts have been. Like it or not, The Jersey Shore is a huge blip on the media radar.

And it won't make a goddamn difference in the ratings since she's from a show that runs oppisite of Impact.

Well, it runs opposite during the second hour. And in any event it gets them attention. I'm not sure it will help the ratings or not, but it's a much better investment than the majority of celeb appearances in wrestling.
I'm sure they're looking to get their name out there some more, and maybe lure a few people in to see what it's all about. It's not all about ratings

I cannot sit here and fault them for trying. It actually kind of impressed me when I heard of it. Seems like the kind of thing WWE would be thrilled to have gotten.

You really think the current MTV generation is going to be into wrestling? No.

Wrestling has lost it's luster, and will not be what it was in the mid to late 90s again for a long, long time.

Why not try? I am not one to praise TNA. They do more wrong than right, but I have to credit bringing in a chick from the Jersey Shore as a better attempt at media exposure than booking Bob Barker or Jerry Springer.

Well, for some reason the clip of the appearence is already on Youtube, via TNA's official page.

Doesn't instill alot of hope

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Yyl2uTU13Q&feature=sub

I think you seem to have missed the point of this thread chrisat. Stop being a Negative Nelly, it's a pretty tired gimmick when it comes to TNA.

Nothing.

very little..... they were on the right track a while ago when The Pope (most over guy on the show at that point) didn't win the #1 Contender's Tournament..... since then it has been nothing but crappt 2-minute matches, stupid storylines and overbooking.....

They make a good comedy show, seriously I cant stop laughing at RVD's piece of shit music or retard Abyss.

This would have been funny if it wasn't so predictable. :roll:

I liked when they had the top 10 ranking

Well, turning Jeff Hardy heel is one of the things *imo* that has gotten a little buzz about TNA. Sad thing is, they're going to let this flop again like every other shot they've had with something big (MCMG vs Beer Money best of 5) and some how blowing it. (gave away most of their matches free when they could've sold more PPVs.)

Honestly, I didnt even know who JWoWW was until I Googled her ass, but it was a good get for TNA, as that stupid ass Jersey Shore show is hot right now.

The best thing TNA does? Keeping Velvet Sky and Angelina Love on tv.

A pretty amazing roster and honestly, they do try different things. Granted, none have helped much and some were bad or downright stupid, but they think outside of the box at some points.

The JWoWW/"The Shore" thing, even though it's going to keep me away from watching TNA, is a pretty brilliant move by TNA for press.

Apology accepted.

Did anyone see Robbie E. hit the RKO at Bound For Glory?

x division for awhile was good

It's called a diamond cutter. The shore already has major heat from the mtv show coming in.There's a reason WWE was mad they thought of it first. Southpark is making fun of The Jersey shore this week as well.Jwoww is super hot and she's in a catfight right off the bat. i see no problem. TNA is for sure doing more things right then the WWE right now.Hardy as heel is genius and fresh.The tag team and knockout division is the best in the biz. They have more potential in their talent roster then anyone else as well. Their young stars started 8 years ago,now they are becoming main eventers.TNA also has enough name recognition in their main event scene to be as competitive as WWE.Anderson,Angle,Hardy,Abyss,A.J.,Joe,RVD,Jarrett.A mix of TNA originals and older veterans that can still go.Plus they got Sting,Hogan,and Flair. Who are honestly 3 of the top five ever IMO.

The Diamond Cutter is also called RKO

Orton jumps up higher and "catches" them with his,making it different.DDP and Shoreboy just drive em down.It's a slight difference,and makes sense cause DDP is from Jersey.

It's the same move.

This is about as much of a subjective topic as there ever was. Who the heck really knows what they are doing right? They are still in business, so more must be going right than wrong.

The fact that they aren't growing in ratings shows that they're doing something right to hold those fans but doing something wrong to attract new fans. That's what they need to look into. They haven't had any real ratings growth since Angle came into the company.

TNA is doing a lot right. They\'re growing, they have an amazing talent roster, and know where to push people. While I disagree with changing Hardys alliance, it can work, especially with someone like Hogan behind them. I don\'t know why everyone hates Hogan. It\'s not like he\'s wrestling. He\'s making great promos and putting over people left and right. Before Hogan, I didn\'t care about Abyss. Now I love him.

Hogan knows this business, and he\'s doing what needs to be done to make the future come alive.

As much as i wasnt a fan of the 'They' storyline, i liked the fact it was a slow build. I usually record TNA and zoom through alot of it but i've noticed alot of angles are given more than the 3 or 4 weeks between PPVs, gotta applaud them for that.

So you googled JWoWW's ass? I guess I'd call that an accomplishment but it was already done by 95% of the men who live in South Beach

Best thing going in TNA has to be the Knockouts Division. They are hotter than most WWE Divas and, they have a lot more talent and in ring ability than them too. Granted losing Amazing Kong because of Bubba the Love Sponge's mouth and money put a dent in it's division. It's still stronger than the WWE Divas division. Another thing TNA is doing right is that it's not afraid to take risks. It went head to head with WWE Raw for a few weeks. Did the ratings jump up alot or at all? No, but still they tried going head to head with the Big Boys and that's an accomplishment in itself.

I'd do a lot more to that ass, given the chance!

Motor City Machine Guns are cool.

Not just cool, Awesome!

The tag division is pretty good. I do think that they need to have a few more built teams floating around. For example, if they could secure The Briscoes or The Kings of Wrestling...win. There are some great indy teams out there, too. The Osirian Portal, for example. The Motor City Machine Guns, Generation Me and Beer Money are all well and good, but TNA are not as good at spinning storylines along for months as the WWE was when The Hardyz/Edge & Christian/The Dudleyz dominated the Attitude era tag scene. They need to have some filler teams for The Guns to work magic with.

I also think that TNA's ideas to get attention lately have not been entirely bad. This "The Shore" gimmick might irritate people, but they're heels, aren't they? That could work -- especially if Robbie E. is a good worker. Also, Becky Bayless is hot. Not sure if she can wrestle, but that's building two divisions at once if she can. JWowW is attention. So good for them.

Jeff Hardy turning heel is, in my opinion, a great move. Hardy as a face wasn't turning heads; but he's suck a stock face that turning him heel as generated a fair bit of interest. The follow-up might blow, however. I do like that they seem to want to build up Brian Kendrick, too, but I don't think they are going about it in the very best way possible.

THE Brian "The Jedi" Kendrick.

"The Loose Cannon" Brian Kendrick - Mike Tenay

The only thing TNA has going for them is their roster, some strong superstars (maybe besides the 'older' ones)

What is TNA doing right? Turning Hardy heel, push the tag team division, I marked out when Jarrett joined "They".

I like Hardy turning heel, although I'm skeptical as to whether or not he can portray a heel persona convincingly.

They do have an amazing roster, but they're just so schizophrenic with their booking, and they lack commitment when it comes to who is being pushed and why.
Next thing you know Mr. Anderson is going to be heel again once he recovers from his injury...again.

Oh, and Daffney needs a push and more TV time.
:shifty:

More Daffney on TV is never a bad thing. I think that TNA has a good roster too, but the problem is that they are comletely burring their home grown stars. I dont think having Jeff, Kurt and Ken in the main event picture is a bad thing. I would just like to see Kazarian, Jay Lethal, or even Eric Young be utilized in the main event picture.


Side note, I know it's been said before but Jeff should take some time off and refocus/ get in better shape (it's affecting his in ring preformance too)

TNA apparently have done it again. This angle with Jeff Hardy really could have been used to create some definitive face/heel lines. Jeff Hardy could be the most hated man in the business, and Abyss and The Pope being aligned with him could have really become heat-machines, as well. But we've already had Pope turn face again. Didn't he just turn heel the other week?

If I were booking this storyline, I'd have had Bischoff try to win Rob Van Dam over to their side. Bischoff could give RVD a title shot...against AJ Styles. TNA TV Title match -- RVD vs. AJ Styles. Technically, RVD would be the face in the feud, but there would be drama between whether or not RVD will also sell his soul to the devil, and AJ Styles can get heat by suggesting that RVD would, and that this is house that the guys in Fourtune built, etc.

Meanwhile, Mr. Anderson is trying to earn a spot back in the company for Kurt Angle and the TNA World Heavyweight Championship for himself. Anderson takes out Nash and Sting without much effort. Samoa Joe is also after Jarrett, who also finds himself the target of Eric Young. You could also turn Orlando Jordan face with Young. I know people aren't that high on him, but TNA loves him, and it is far more couragious to present a bisexual weirdo as a hero rather than a villain in today's world. You can have a Booker T/Goldust-style relationship develop between Young & Jordan.

Eventually, RVD does sell his soul to Bischoff, and aligns himself with Jeffrey Nero. Not as a shock, but as a piece of development for RVD's character. I'm wondering whether it would be more beneficial to bring in Matt Hardy as a face to oppose his brother, or if Matthew Moore should also join "Them."

It's not the best angle ever, or anything, but there is potential and quite a gripping story behind this Hardy heel turn. But TNA are just chopping and changing everyone so there's no point getting attached to any of the characters.

No, he didn't turn heel.

Yeah, and he's continuing Kevin Nash and Sting's cause against Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff.

But Pope, Nash & Sting were heels against Joe & Jarrett, weren't they?

Yeah, but after the revealing of "they," it's revealed that they were faces all along.

Oh golly. Sometimes it's better to just have straight-forward booking, is it not?

It's not very hard to figure out.

It'd help if TNA fans actually cheered and boo'd instead of just cheering and try to get themselves over as lame ECW fan rip-offs.

tna did this pretty right..

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London Brawling looked class before Desmund died or whatever. Was looking forward to them v MCMG.

Agreed. The only company whose fans see a side headlock and chant "THIS IS AWESOME!!" *clap clap clap clap clap* "THIS IS AWESOME!"

big slim j is right here, there is a variation of the move here which makes it different. Both moves are a version of the cutter neckbreaker, but have different standing position variations on how the move is pulled off.

DDP's Diamond Cutter is a straight front face lock with interlocked fingers and the opponent falls with the momentum as DDP pulls them down.

Whearas Randy' Orton's RKO does not include a full front face lock nor is there any locking of the fingers. Orton comes from a prone, running, or stationary position and jumps while his opponent mimmick his grabbing them with one arm around the neck and falls down as Orton's momentum takes him to the ground, mimicking the impression of the neckbreaker.

In essence, DDP's Diamond Cutter is a full variation of the Cutter neckbreaker, whereas the RKO is a complete invoation of itself, so to clarify as Pope said in a later post, it is in FACT NOT the same move.

Sad to see that no one has mentioned Fortune as being a good point of TNA...if they hadn't included them with Immortal which is what they are calling the grouping of Hardy, Bischoff, Hogan, Jarrett, and Abyss, they could have a good stable vs stable war that hasn't really been seen in wrestling lately. Could have culminated in a introduction of TNA trumping WWE to using the War Games match, even though they already have Lethal Lockdown. Fortune has some great talent in Doug Williams, Morgan, and Beer Money, along with established stars Styles and Kazarian. Wrestling is missing some good and solid stables to help stimulate tag team divisions.

No, Fourtune was horrible.

They had some big angle with Ric Flair announcing who would get in the group, then a few weeks later just start adding people to it without reason.

LOL, fucked up. :rofl:

Flair really needs to either get his hair fixed, or shave it off, from the back he's starting to resemble Hogan. :wtf:

I'd rather the fans be a bit over the top than just dead as fuck like WWE.

Meh...I honestly feel like all I watched was two over the hill has beens beating their own faces and rambling incoherently. Flair sounded like he wasn't even listening to what Mick was saying.

The Diamond Cutter is a variation of the Ace Crusher, innovated by Johnny Ace, who unfortunately is in charge of talent hiring and firing in WWE.

They explained it.

Thank you for clearing this up.
Also, I guess a generic way of calling it would be a modified neckbreaker.