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bince2200 10-28-2010 09:47 PM

Dumb finishers!!!!
 
ok so iam watching tna and just watched the robbie v e or who ever it is(jersey shore dude) and jay lethal and the jersey shore guy finsher is a fist pump neckbreaker but aint that a normal move in any wrestler move set. I guess wrestling aint what it used to be now when a finsher wasnt used as a normal move.u guys got any more dumb finishers u dont like!!!!!1:roll:

JimmyMess 10-28-2010 09:49 PM

I got a headache reading this.

bince2200 10-28-2010 09:51 PM

my bad iam a lil tispy and dont see the need to speak proper online lol

Xero 10-28-2010 09:53 PM

Yeah, fuck him for having a regular wrestling move as a finisher. I want to see everyone with 180 moonsault Stunners and Canadian Destroyers.

Wait a minute, no I don't.

bince2200 10-28-2010 09:54 PM

u kno Xero i wanna see a finisher made off of smackdown vrs raw 2011 instead of a basic neckbreaker lol

Juan 10-28-2010 09:54 PM

Melina's finisher where does the splits or some shit

Nervous Ferret 10-28-2010 09:55 PM

Who is the Jersey Shore dude

Xero 10-28-2010 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bince2200 (Post 3301124)
u kno Xero i wanna see a finisher made off of smackdown vrs raw 2011 instead of a basic neckbreaker lol

Too bad physics usually prevents those.

Savio 10-28-2010 09:57 PM

I agree with the new guy his finisher is stupid.

bince2200 10-28-2010 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3301128)
Too bad physics usually prevents those.

i kno right lol

Xero 10-28-2010 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savior (Post 3301132)
I agree with the new guy his finisher is stupid.

What is it exactly? I've seen him do an RKO once, but that's it since I have no desire to watch his segments.

Savio 10-28-2010 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3301138)
What is it exactly? I've seen him do an RKO once, but that's it since I have no desire to watch his segments.

He does a fist pump into a standard neck breaker.

Xero 10-28-2010 10:03 PM

lol.

Honestly probably wouldn't have a problem with it. I like old moves getting new life this generation as finishers. For example, Ziggler brought back the Sleeper, which has been something used "in anyone's moveset" for years. Piper was probably the last one who used it as a finisher. Love Ziggler doing it.

bince2200 10-28-2010 10:03 PM

and i mean it aint like a the neckbreaker mr perfect son does its like rick rudes neckbreaker just take out the hip swing and add a fist pump

bince2200 10-28-2010 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3301146)
lol.

Honestly probably wouldn't have a problem with it. I like old moves getting new life this generation as finishers. For example, Ziggler brought back the Sleeper, which has been something used "in anyone's moveset" for years. Piper was probably the last one who used it as a finisher. Love Ziggler doing it.

i can deal wit a sleeper cause its a basic submission move thats allways effective but a BASIC NECKBREAKER COMEON

Xero 10-28-2010 10:06 PM

I have absolutely no problem with that, then.

Wrestling has gotten too flashy. I'm not saying that flash doesn't have its place but flash shouldn't take away from the effectiveness of other moves.

kareru 10-28-2010 10:06 PM

i thought his finisher was an ace crusher/diamond cutter/rko/jumping cutter

i'll tell you a dumb finishing move..the mandible claw, seems more of an irritant than a final desperate attempt at a win

Savio 10-28-2010 10:07 PM

HE HIT HIM WITH THE HIP TOSS......ITS OVER!

bince2200 10-28-2010 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3301151)
I have absolutely no problem with that, then.

Wrestling has gotten too flashy. I'm not saying that flash doesn't have its place but flash shouldn't take away from the effectiveness of other moves.

EXCATLY I SEE GETTING TWO 450 splashes in a row or a warriors way or even an rko but a basic neckbreaker at least make it worth while and do so something extra with it like perfect's son to make it look effecient

Savio 10-28-2010 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kareru (Post 3301152)
i thought his finisher was an ace crusher/diamond cutter/rko/jumping cutter

Maybe...I don't watch TNA to much. Maybe this was just a "signature" move he won the match with.

Xero 10-28-2010 10:09 PM

I'm sorry, but I'm having trouble understanding you.

jerichoholicninja 10-28-2010 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savior (Post 3301154)
HE HIT HIM WITH THE HIP TOSS......ITS OVER!

If you're wrestling Randy Orton that is possible.

bince2200 10-28-2010 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kareru (Post 3301152)
i thought his finisher was an ace crusher/diamond cutter/rko/jumping cutter

i'll tell you a dumb finishing move..the mandible claw, seems more of an irritant than a final desperate attempt at a win

yea dat was another one and still is i would think hay stone cold just gonna throw up untill mankind take his fingers out his mouth den hit a stone cold cutter on him and its over wit

tjmidnight420 10-28-2010 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bince2200 (Post 3301165)
yea dat was another one and still is i would think hay stone cold just gonna throw up untill mankind take his fingers out his mouth den hit a stone cold cutter on him and its over wit

Board's gone south while I was gone.. :-\

parkmania 10-28-2010 10:21 PM

Fireman's Carry FTL.

MoFo 10-28-2010 11:17 PM

The Worm
The Peoples Elbow
The Samoan Spike
Lacey Von Erichs moonsault into an elbow drop

VSG 10-28-2010 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjmidnight420 (Post 3301182)
Board's gone south while I was gone.. :-\

:wave:

Furious Beardsley 10-28-2010 11:55 PM

seriously man...you hard one hard to understand emm effer. I mean, I had one drunk post...but you are claiming to be drunk but in reality you just have bad grammar.

Quit making excuses

TheHart 10-28-2010 11:57 PM

I love me some Miz, but the Skull Crushing Finale is TERRIBLE!

AJHayes 10-29-2010 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bince2200 (Post 3301165)
yea dat was another one and still is i would think hay stone cold just gonna throw up untill mankind take his fingers out his mouth den hit a stone cold cutter on him and its over wit

Claims to be drunk.

Actually, just a retard.

KIRA 10-29-2010 12:40 AM

Do I need to say it? The lie detector bar none,and its a shame cause he has so many good moves that could be finishers.:nono:

Cenas also a good candidate since the AA is just a slam

619 into a falling splash

the overdrive.......I feel like we've had this discussion once

DLVH84 10-29-2010 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bince2200 (Post 3301147)
and i mean it aint like a the neckbreaker mr perfect son does its like rick rudes neckbreaker just take out the hip swing and add a fist pump

CUT THE MUSIC!!! He's lucky Rick Rude is dead or else he would show that Jersey Shore wannabe how to execute the Rude Awakening the right way...The Ravishing Way. HIT THE MUSIC!!!

Xerzes 10-29-2010 02:25 AM

Whatever the hell Darren Young does.

James Steele 10-29-2010 02:25 AM

CENA'S SHIT [/THREAD]

Rammsteinmad 10-29-2010 03:39 AM

If I can still type properly when wasted (with difficulty mind you), then there is no way this guys writing is so bad when he's 'tipsy'.

Rammsteinmad 10-29-2010 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3301122)
Yeah, fuck him for having a regular wrestling move as a finisher. I want to see everyone with 180 moonsault Stunners and Canadian Destroyers.

Wait a minute, no I don't.

A Moonsault Stunner? That would actually be quite impressive. :yes:

stultiloquy 10-29-2010 05:03 AM

I like Barrett, but his Wasteland finisher is awful - it's almost as bad as the Attitude Adjustment.

BizarroKing 10-29-2010 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3301146)
lol.

Honestly probably wouldn't have a problem with it. I like old moves getting new life this generation as finishers. For example, Ziggler brought back the Sleeper, which has been something used "in anyone's moveset" for years. Piper was probably the last one who used it as a finisher. Love Ziggler doing it.

And honestly his regular finisher, the Zig Zag, is kind of weird...I mean, what is that???

NoJabbaNoBogRoll 10-29-2010 06:27 AM

The RKO through a table.

When will they learn that the RKO is a person on person impact move, and not person on surface?

Makes no sense.

Hanso Amore 10-29-2010 08:41 AM

Spo Monkeys have made that not a normal finisher. I think it is fine. I dont need to see a match where both guys are dropping 15-20 signature moves each.

Hanso Amore 10-29-2010 08:41 AM

and PS, to the OP

You may not see a reason to type correctly online. but we do, and if you want to be taken seriously, I suggest you do.

Fox 10-29-2010 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoJabbaNoBogRoll (Post 3301534)
The RKO through a table.

When will they learn that the RKO is a person on person impact move, and not person on surface?

Makes no sense.

I think the idea of the RKO/Diamond Cutter is that the person doing it slams the other person's face into the mat, driving them down neck-first. So, in kayfabe, the idea of an RKO onto a table makes sense.

In this video of Orton delivering the RKO to Cena onto a chair, you can see Cena's head slip out of his arm at the last second and Cena smashes face first into the chair.

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Brigstocke 10-29-2010 09:32 AM

I won't take Wade Barrett seriously until he finds a new finisher, It's a shame because his mic skills are impeccable and his in ring work is more than OK, just a shame that finisher looks so pathetic.

SuperSlim 10-29-2010 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheHart (Post 3301325)
I love me some Miz, but the Skull Crushing Finale is TERRIBLE!

It is executed tons better than when Jeff Jarrett does "The Stroke." Cause that... just looks beyond horrible.

NoJabbaNoBogRoll 10-29-2010 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Fox (Post 3301588)
I think the idea of the RKO/Diamond Cutter is that the person doing it slams the other person's face into the mat, driving them down neck-first. So, in kayfabe, the idea of an RKO onto a table makes sense.

In this video of Orton delivering the RKO to Cena onto a chair, you can see Cena's head slip out of his arm at the last second and Cena smashes face first into the chair.

I still see it as a head on shoulder impact, like the Stunner.

When he clearly dives beyond the object, allowing his victim to hit it first, I'll buy it. Usually, however, his own back crashes through the table long before his opponent.

The Pope 10-29-2010 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bince2200 (Post 3301109)
ok so iam watching tna and just watched the robbie v e or who ever it is(jersey shore dude) and jay lethal and the jersey shore guy finsher is a fist pump neckbreaker but aint that a normal move in any wrestler move set. I guess wrestling aint what it used to be now when a finsher wasnt used as a normal move.u guys got any more dumb finishers u dont like!!!!!1:roll:

His finisher is an Diamond Cutter

The Pope 10-29-2010 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savior (Post 3301158)
Maybe...I don't watch TNA to much. Maybe this was just a "signature" move he won the match with.

This
His finisher is an RKO/Diamond Cutter

MoFo 10-29-2010 10:57 AM

Edge's spear looks weak as fuck.

I've no probs with the actual move itself, but it should be left to bigger guys like Goldberg and Rhino who make it look good.

Swiss Ultimate 10-29-2010 10:59 AM

I'd like to see a powerslam finisher. :/

The Pope 10-29-2010 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeathtotheSwiss (Post 3301654)
I'd like to see a powerslam finisher. :/

I agree, like the snapping one Goldust and Samoa Joe do.

KIRA 10-29-2010 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoJabbaNoBogRoll (Post 3301629)
I still see it as a head on shoulder impact, like the Stunner.

When he clearly dives beyond the object, allowing his victim to hit it first, I'll buy it. Usually, however, his own back crashes through the table long before his opponent.

Nope the stunner the head is situated on the shoulder the impact of the fall focused on the jaw/upper throat.

RKO/Diamond cutter the head is situated where the elbow bends the other hand (more noticeable with the diamond cutter) is used to push the head downward.

Xero 10-29-2010 11:36 AM

Went back and watched the finish to Robbie's match. The finisher is fine. It has enough impact.

The Jayman 10-29-2010 11:43 AM

http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=108068

Razzamajazz 10-29-2010 12:20 PM

the masterlock is devastating

NoJabbaNoBogRoll 10-29-2010 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KIRA (Post 3301694)
Nope the stunner the head is situated on the shoulder the impact of the fall focused on the jaw/upper throat.

RKO/Diamond cutter the head is situated where the elbow bends the other hand (more noticeable with the diamond cutter) is used to push the head downward.

My point still stands. It doesn't matter which part of the head is involved.

The Pope 10-29-2010 01:37 PM

I was checking out Xero's posts and I agree that they do need to bring back some "regular" moves as finishers again.

thedamndest 10-29-2010 02:02 PM

The Skull Crushing Finale would be better if it was just The Stroke/Downward spiral. It's hard to believe someone like Sheamus couldn't power out of the full nelson set up.

Brigstocke 10-30-2010 02:48 AM

Sheamus could power outta a bear hug from a grizzly. Fella.

dronepool 10-30-2010 03:17 AM

The People's Elbow
The Worm
The Hogan Leg Drop
5 Knuckle Shuffle
"Knock Out" Punch
Clothesline From Hell

ect..

AJHayes 10-30-2010 11:26 AM

Cena's version of the STF bugs the shit out of me. As I've described before, it looks like an inverted, fuckup deathlock with a rear jaw vice.

DLVH84 10-30-2010 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AJHayes (Post 3302483)
Cena's version of the STF bugs the shit out of me. As I've described before, it looks like an inverted, fuckup deathlock with a rear jaw vice.

Yeah. He fucks the STF up. Damn you Cena!!!

DLVH84 10-30-2010 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeathtotheSwiss (Post 3301654)
I'd like to see a powerslam finisher. :/

I miss the running version that Davey Boy Smith does.

crusnik 10-30-2010 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stultiloquy (Post 3301510)
I like Barrett, but his Wasteland finisher is awful - it's almost as bad as the Attitude Adjustment.

it's even worse...they gotta come up with something else that fits the character. :y:

Sepholio 10-31-2010 12:52 AM

The mandible claw is not weak or dumb. If actually done on someone and full pressure is applied, it is one of the most incredibly painful things you can imagine.

However, I never did quite understand why no one simply 'bit' down on Foleys hand or something when he did it, seems like an easy way out of it to me.

The Naitch 10-31-2010 01:17 AM

Wade Barrett's finisher

The Naitch 10-31-2010 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seph (Post 3302994)
The mandible claw is not weak or dumb. If actually done on someone and full pressure is applied, it is one of the most incredibly painful things you can imagine.

However, I never did quite understand why no one simply 'bit' down on Foleys hand or something when he did it, seems like an easy way out of it to me.

I also think it had to do with it being a sock that he most likely put on his penis that served him well during those lonely nights at sea

Aguakate 10-31-2010 01:23 AM

The fact that The Rock won some matches with The People's Elbow is dumb in itself.

Wait a minute...I just found out The Rock beat Hogan at WM18 with The People's Elbow...

...damn.

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AJ 10-31-2010 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seph (Post 3302994)
The mandible claw is not weak or dumb. If actually done on someone and full pressure is applied, it is one of the most incredibly painful things you can imagine.

However, I never did quite understand why no one simply 'bit' down on Foleys hand or something when he did it, seems like an easy way out of it to me.

Wait I remember someone explain to me was that with the user controlling the opponent's jaw, that they wouldn't be able to bite since one bites with the lower jaw. If you try and hold down your lower jaw, it is hard to actually bite. At least that's how the move was "justified" to me. :o


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