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Kris P Lettus 11-14-2010 10:56 AM

I am so nervous (UFC 123)..
 
God, I hope Rampage beats the fuck outta Machida..

To win Jackson needs to:

-keep the fight at close to mid range.. He has to close the distance and not let Machida set up long range and pepper him..

-he needs to used his size, strength, and wrestling to keep Machida on his back.. He kept Hendo on his back, he should keep the Karate Kid down there as well..

-check motherfucking leg kicks!!

I haven't been this nervous for a ficht since Rampage/Liddell in the UFC..

Reavant 11-14-2010 11:54 AM

dont use wrestling performance against hendo as setting any bar in terms of wrestling skill. He was a tough grecco wrestler, but he lacks a lot of fundamental wrestling skills that guys who are not anywhere near accomplished as he is in the wrestling world would be able to dominate him.

IC Champion 11-14-2010 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reavant (Post 3319329)
dont use wrestling performance against hendo as setting any bar in terms of wrestling skill. He was a tough grecco wrestler, but he lacks a lot of fundamental wrestling skills that guys who are not anywhere near accomplished as he is in the wrestling world would be able to dominate him.

I.e Jake Shields.

Kris P Lettus 11-14-2010 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reavant (Post 3319329)
dont use wrestling performance against hendo as setting any bar in terms of wrestling skill. He was a tough grecco wrestler, but he lacks a lot of fundamental wrestling skills that guys who are not anywhere near accomplished as he is in the wrestling world would be able to dominate him.

I had never seen anyone put Hendo on his back and keep him there until Rampage..

The Mask 11-14-2010 05:08 PM

i hope rampage wins but i will be absolutely amazed if he does.

Jura 11-14-2010 05:20 PM

It's actually UFC 123 since UFC 122 was Saturday.

I like both fighters but Rampage hasn't shown me the fighter spirit for a very long time. If I see the Rampage from the Forest Griffin and Rashad Evans fight then Machida will win for sure. I'd like to see Machida be a little more aggressive.

Kris P Lettus 11-14-2010 05:26 PM

Rampage didn't look bad in the Griffin fight.. I could have actually seen that fight going his way, just like the first time Shogun and Machida fought.. The Rashad fight is the only "bad" fight Rampage has had since he fought Shogun in 2005..

IC Champion 11-14-2010 05:33 PM

I like Rampage, but he is inconsistent. He is one dimentional, and refuses to work on or use his wrestling. He's just concerned with standing and banging.

Kris P Lettus 11-14-2010 05:37 PM

How is having 1 bad performance is 5 years "inconsistent"??

Jura 11-14-2010 05:44 PM

I didn't say he looked bad. He didn't look bad but he could have been more aggressive and knock Griffin out or get him down and pound his face in. People say he's a good wrestler so why doesn't he grapple? Would have been very helpful against Rashad since he really doesn't do well when he's scrambling.

IC Champion 11-14-2010 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus (Post 3319668)
How is having 1 bad performance is 5 years "inconsistent"??

Well his fight against Jardine wasn't very impressive, when you consider Jardine couldn't win to save his life after that. And he didn't look good against Forrest. And when you say 5 years it seems like more than it is. He's only fought 3 times since december 08. So I'm sure his lack of consistant training has played its part as well.

Loose Cannon 11-14-2010 09:41 PM

love Machida, but I also love Rampage. I think Machida wins though.

The Naitch 11-14-2010 10:45 PM

remember Rogan was jizzing his pants proclaiming the Machida Era? WELCOME TO THE MACHIDA ERA!!!!!! That era lasted 2 fights

Funky Fly 11-14-2010 10:50 PM

tbh, it's not like just anyone in the LH division can kick his ass. He went 14-0 for a reason.

Kris P Lettus 11-14-2010 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Naitch (Post 3320235)
remember Rogan was jizzing his pants proclaiming the Machida Era? WELCOME TO THE MACHIDA ERA!!!!!! That era lasted 2 fights

It shouldn't have lasted a single fight..

I will say now that machida won't ko rampage..

Funky Fly 11-14-2010 11:21 PM

Doubt he'll ko him, but i do see him winning.

Reavant 11-15-2010 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus (Post 3319368)
I had never seen anyone put Hendo on his back and keep him there until Rampage..

nogiera brothers?

Next Big Thing 11-15-2010 08:12 AM

What is this Dolce Diet Rampage is supposed to be on? Is it like the newest fad in MMA dieting?

I think Rampage losing to Rashad touched his ego and pride enough to where he'll be fully focused on putting away Machida.

I'm more nervous for BJ's fight. Can't underestimate Hughes at all.

Kris P Lettus 11-15-2010 10:56 AM

If BJ loses he is prolly done which is sad considering he was the best lw in the world like 18 months ago..

The Show Off 11-15-2010 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus (Post 3320531)
If BJ loses he is prolly done which is sad considering he was the best lw in the world like 18 months ago..

More like 8 months ago.

Kris P Lettus 11-15-2010 11:35 AM

Couldn't remember how long ago the first Edgar fight was and didnt feel like looking it up..

IC Champion 11-15-2010 02:29 PM

Apparently Penn is making excused already is he loses, he says he will only be coming in at about 165, and will be much smaller than Hughes.

Kris P Lettus 11-15-2010 03:16 PM

He said that during the rogan interview but he said he feels good at that weight and putting on even more weight would slow him down..

Funky Fly 11-15-2010 03:23 PM

5 pounds under weight is not bad. Hughes might actually be like 180 come fight time, but it's not like some of the differences at Heavyweight.

IC Champion 11-15-2010 03:26 PM

20 pound weight difference at welterweight can be quite significant. Hughes has to be atleast 185 on the day of the fight.

Funky Fly 11-16-2010 01:16 AM

I don't doubt it, but why move to welterweight if he can't hack it? It really does come off as making an early excuse.

Nark Order 11-16-2010 12:38 PM

I'm ready for Machida to be a flash in the pan and slowly fade into obscurity. I don't like him.

IC Champion 11-16-2010 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 3322127)
I'm ready for Machida to be a flash in the pan and slowly fade into obscurity. I don't like him.

I kinda agree. He's pretty boring to watch, and has zero personality.

Kris P Lettus 11-16-2010 02:10 PM

And his piece of shit manager improvs when he is supposed to be translating..

Jura 11-16-2010 02:30 PM

I hope the Machida era makes a comeback and extends forever.

Funky Fly 11-17-2010 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 3322127)
I'm ready for Machida to be a flash in the pan and slowly fade into obscurity. I don't like him.

He has 14 legit wins, with the last 2 being spectacular KOs. That's not a flash in the pan.

MoFo 11-17-2010 11:27 AM

Saw an recent interview where Page said he doesnt give a shit if he wins or loses, he just wants to put on a exciting fight.

The Mask 11-17-2010 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funky Fly (Post 3323020)
He has 14 legit wins, with the last 2 being spectacular KOs. That's not a flash in the pan.

his last win was the rua robbery :'(

Kris P Lettus 11-17-2010 02:48 PM

Yep.. He has beaten some names (Penn, Franklin, Rashad, etc) but has had some bad showings.. The Rua and Ortiz fights come to mind.. He is not unstoppable and Shogun showed that twice..

IC Champion 11-17-2010 03:18 PM

I always found Machida was overhyped. Not that is isn't a top 15 fighter in the world, but that he was ever unstoppable was ridiculous.

Jura 11-17-2010 05:52 PM

Everybody who has an undefeated record or is on a rampage like Brock will always be hyped like they are unstoppable. They pretty much have to for business.

Funky Fly 11-17-2010 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mask (Post 3323373)
his last win was the rua robbery :'(

Break down what I said. The 14 legit wins. Not counting the last one as it was bullshit.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus (Post 3323404)
Yep.. He has beaten some names (Penn, Franklin, Rashad, etc) but has had some bad showings.. The Rua and Ortiz fights come to mind.. He is not unstoppable and Shogun showed that twice..

He worked Ortiz badly. Not only did he stuff a huge takedown at one point, he completely reversed it. He combo'd him up and down all fight long. He crumpled Tito with a vicious kick to the liver in the third. Would have submitted him too if not for the second round ending before Ortiz tapped. That was domination.

I'm not calling him unstoppable, just really fucking good. He's had boring fights, but not really bad ones until he met Shogun.

Johnny McNasty 11-18-2010 03:50 AM

Never really thought the first Rua vs Machida fight was that big of a robbery. Always seen it as a close fight, that could've went both ways. Not sure at all who will win between Machida vs Rampage, but I think it will be a good fight.

Sixx 11-18-2010 05:01 AM

Chill out, it's not like you're fighting.

Nark Order 11-18-2010 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funky Fly (Post 3323020)
He has 14 legit wins, with the last 2 being spectacular KOs. That's not a flash in the pan.

I'm not saying he isn't legit. He annoys the fuck out of me though and so do his fans. I'd like to see him have a huge breakdown and lose every fight for the next couple of years so everyone would shut the fuck up about him.

The Naitch 11-18-2010 09:01 PM

I think there's some sort of metal thing that Machida had. Being Brazilian, he felt that he was superior than all the American fighters he had fought. Just like how an American just naturally feels superior than a Canadian person. It's a stigma maybe (that Brazilians are better fighters than American. You can debate this, but it's just an observation. Just like how white people feel superior than Mexicans), and a reason why Machida was unstoppable for a while.

But then Tiago Silva came along, although a fellow Brazilian, but Machida had experience and age over him

Then comes Rua. The biggest threat so far. Has just as much experience if not more than Machida. You could classify Machida and Rua as equals. Both Brazilians. This could've played a factor in the mental game. You can see in Machidas eyes as he walked towards to the octogan, in his 2nd fight, that he was visibly shook (scared and/or worried)

That being said, I think Machida will beat Rampage in convincing fashion, because he drinks his own piss

Nark Order 11-18-2010 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Naitch (Post 3325268)
That being said, I think Machida will beat Rampage in convincing fashion, because he drinks his own piss

Well. So does Luke Cummo and that didn't do too many wonders for him.

Adder 11-19-2010 04:24 PM

Hope Machida wins. Rampage isn't a dick or anything, but sometimes he plays one on TV

Jura 11-19-2010 07:41 PM

I'm not a dick in real life. I just play one on TV.

The Naitch 11-19-2010 09:56 PM

Luke Cummo is hummo

CSL 11-20-2010 01:49 AM

Pulling hard for Rampage but don't see him coming close to winning.

The Naitch 11-20-2010 01:53 AM

Rampage doesn't seem hungry anymore these days. He's at the point where he's a celebrity, people like him, he's beaten Chuck Liddell. A loss won't really hurt him. He really has nothing else to prove.

Machida on the other hand, needs to win. He looked like a bitch against Rua (twice), and I think he feels that he needs to prove himself to gain his respect back

Kris P Lettus 11-20-2010 02:06 AM

Dana white said Rampage is hungry and ready..

The Mask 11-20-2010 07:14 AM

dana white said james toney was in good shape and lookexd serious about his fight

Krimzon7 11-20-2010 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mask (Post 3327471)
dana white said james toney was in good shape and lookexd serious about his fight

THIS

Ol Dirty Dastard 11-20-2010 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Naitch (Post 3327322)

Machida on the other hand, needs to win. He looked like a bitch against Rua (twice)

I hate little fanboys who call fighters bitches. Seriously, do you have any idea what you're talking about?

IC Champion 11-20-2010 12:28 PM

Well Machida did kind of look like Rua's bitch the last time we saw him.

Stickman 11-20-2010 12:36 PM

I'd like to see a double knockout.

Ol Dirty Dastard 11-20-2010 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Instant Classic (Post 3327601)
Well Machida did kind of look like Rua's bitch the last time we saw him.

You kno I have a hard time calling someone a bitch because he got beat up by Shogun Rua.

Ol Dirty Dastard 11-20-2010 12:40 PM

After dismantling everyone else he fought.

IC Champion 11-20-2010 01:42 PM

I said he looked liek Rua bitch, not that he was one. Don't get so excited.

Crimson 11-20-2010 02:48 PM

Yeh of course Dana's gonna try and pump up the fight and say said fighter is in the best shape of his life. He's a business man.

Funky Fly 11-20-2010 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gorgeous Dale Newstead (Post 3327609)
You kno I have a hard time calling someone a bitch because he got beat up by Shogun Rua.

Yeah, it's fucked up calling someone a bitch because Shogun kicked his ass, but really 99.9999% of everyone on earth is Shogun's bitch, including you and me.

Ol Dirty Dastard 11-20-2010 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Instant Classic (Post 3327637)
I said he looked liek Rua bitch, not that he was one. Don't get so excited.

shut the hell up, I'll get as excited as I want.

Ol Dirty Dastard 11-20-2010 03:22 PM

And he didn't say he was only Rua's bitch, he said he "looked like a bitch". I mean come the fuck on. I just hate this generation of fan in any sport. They don't really take anything into consideration... it's like "he lost therefore he's a bitch".

I watched Forrest Griffin get dismantled by Anderson Silva, but I didn't leave that fight saying "what a bitch", I was more thinking "jesus christ Anderson Silva is a beast."

IC Champion 11-20-2010 04:00 PM

I didn't say he said anything, I only spoke for myself.

Oh, and yeah Forrest got up and ran away, like a bitch.

Kris P Lettus 11-20-2010 04:37 PM

http://mmaaddicts.com/dann/ufc-123-r...to-machida.jpg

Kris P Lettus 11-20-2010 04:40 PM

Phil Davis is a BEAST..

http://mmaaddicts.com/dann/ufc-123-r...phil-davis.jpg

Next Big Thing 11-20-2010 04:42 PM

So pumped for 123. Phil Davis, Lauzon, BJ, Rampage, and Chandella Powell's sweet ass.

Ol Dirty Dastard 11-20-2010 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Instant Classic (Post 3327737)
I didn't say he said anything, I only spoke for myself.

Oh, and yeah Forrest got up and ran away, like a bitch.

thx for proving your ignorance :)

IC Champion 11-20-2010 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gorgeous Dale Newstead (Post 3327768)
thx for proving your ignorance :)

I said like a bitch, there's a difference between "is" and "like". But I don't expect you know that difference.

IC Champion 11-20-2010 05:00 PM

And really, you could have chosen a better example, you know one where the guy who just lost doesn't actually run away.

Ol Dirty Dastard 11-20-2010 05:09 PM

Honestly, when ur fighting the baddest men alive, sometimes ur gonna get tuned up. And you know wat, when you train like a mofo for a fight and it ends with you getting completely dominated, it's a hard pill to swallow. Forrest is also completely loco.

But ok, keep calling the most dangerous men on the planet bitches.

Ol Dirty Dastard 11-20-2010 05:14 PM

Koscheck pretending he got ilegally kneed in the head is a bitch move in my book

IC Champion 11-20-2010 05:34 PM

Come on, show some respect for your opponent who just demolished you than atleast, don't just get up and run like, well a bitch.

IC Champion 11-20-2010 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gorgeous Dale Newstead (Post 3327788)
Honestly, when ur fighting the baddest men alive, sometimes ur gonna get tuned up. And you know wat, when you train like a mofo for a fight and it ends with you getting completely dominated, it's a hard pill to swallow. Forrest is also completely loco.

But ok, keep calling the most dangerous men on the planet bitches.

Once again, I have called no one a bitch.

Kris P Lettus 11-20-2010 08:50 PM

Will you bitches STFU??

IC Champion 11-20-2010 09:25 PM

Why don't you make me? Huh, how bout that.

Kris P Lettus 11-20-2010 09:42 PM

God so fn pumped for this!!

Kris P Lettus 11-20-2010 09:45 PM

Ppv channel isn't showing the countdown.. I would have watched it online today..

:foc:

IC Champion 11-20-2010 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus (Post 3327916)
God so fn pumped for this!!

Ill black you out like your boy Rampage is gone get.

IC Champion 11-20-2010 09:49 PM

Gone fuck boys yo.

Kris P Lettus 11-20-2010 09:52 PM

Fuck Karo Parisian..

Kris P Lettus 11-20-2010 09:54 PM

Hahahahahaha

Kris P Lettus 11-20-2010 10:33 PM

War Phil Davis!!

Crimson 11-20-2010 11:06 PM

Yeh Davis is one buff mofo. But still like Bones Jones better.

Jura 11-20-2010 11:48 PM

BJ thinks he's the shit now

Kris P Lettus 11-20-2010 11:49 PM

BJ motherfuckers!!!

VSG 11-20-2010 11:50 PM

Dumb fillers :mad:

Kris P Lettus 11-20-2010 11:52 PM

Come on Rampage!!!!!!!

Kris P Lettus 11-20-2010 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VSG (Post 3327990)
Dumb fillers :mad:

They gotta fill the time.. Sucks they had to so the Karo fight twice.. Awesome he got ktfo..

VSG 11-20-2010 11:56 PM

The Rock!

Next Big Thing 11-21-2010 12:01 AM

It's B.J. bitch!

Phil Davis is a beast. Would love to see Jon Jones v. Phil Davis one day.

Karo screaming Noooo after getting TKOed was also awesome. I see him drinking heavily and popping pills tonight.

Kris P Lettus 11-21-2010 12:02 AM

I hate him lol..

OMG

War Quinton!!

Kris P Lettus 11-21-2010 12:04 AM

Weird pulling for so many Negros in one night while not watching the Saints or Hornets..

:'( Gerrald

Kris P Lettus 11-21-2010 12:05 AM

Lol the pride music

Next Big Thing 11-21-2010 12:07 AM

He's literally trying to take it back to the Pride days. I hope he KOs Machida with a slam.

CSL 11-21-2010 12:28 AM

So is Lyoto gonna win this off the back of that flurry?

VSG 11-21-2010 12:30 AM

Blah.. This should have been a draw.

Jura 11-21-2010 12:31 AM

Both of them were surprised lol.

CSL 11-21-2010 12:32 AM

AV IT

Kris P Lettus 11-21-2010 12:35 AM

I called it.. I texted my buddy and my brother rampage 29-28..

Kris P Lettus 11-21-2010 12:37 AM

Gotta be honest, I marked out when Rampage got rocked and flurried out then when Machida almost got Aronaed..

Kris P Lettus 11-21-2010 12:38 AM

Why is espn not having the usual mma live post fight show??

Jura 11-21-2010 12:45 AM

I felt like Machida won slightly. Like I said earlier I would like to see Machida be more aggressive. With the way his style is, if he's too set in it then it will not help him with the way the judges are right now.

I like that Rampage looked a bit different from his previous fights. They were both professional. I was afraid we were going to see the power slam 2.0 but Lyoto was smart enough to get out of it.

Can't wait until:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...124_poster.jpg


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