Randy Orton surpasses Shawn Michaels...
 

...in total time as WWE Champion. The current top ten:

1) Bruno Sammartino 4040 days
2) Hulk Hogan 2184 days
3) Bob Backlund 2138 days
4) Pedro Morales 1027 days
5) John Cena 947 days
6) Bret Hart 654 days
7) Triple H 539 days
8T) Randy Savage 529 days
8T) Steve Austin 529 days
10) Randy Orton 421 days

Read this on another site earlier. I have to admit, this surprised me. Does not seem like Orton's time at the top has been long enough. Or that HBK spent so little time with the belt compared to some of his contemporaries.

I'm way more shocked that Austin is only 8th.

And that Triple H is only 7th. With as much criticism as he gets for "supposedly" being where he is only because he's Stephanie's husband, you'd think he'd have spent more days as Champion.

cena beats bret by almost a year :-\

I was almost suprised when I saw that Cena nearly doubles Austin's record....

Now I'm kind of curious to see the entire list. May take a shot at putting one together tonight unless someone else is feeling ambitious.

Cena has a ways to go before reaching Hogan. Probably never will.

Also, I didn't know Macho Man had spent so much time as Champion.

This is only the WWE Championship. Triple H has also been World Heavyweight Champion 616 days.

Oh, ok...so combined, that puts him over Morales into 4th.

That's more like Triple H.

<font color=goldenrod>Sammartino's total time is basically impossible to top. 11 full years as champ. Even combining time for both belts nobody is gonna hold it that long again.</font>

Triple H's days came in an era where titles switched hands a lot more often. So did John Cena's. Pretty crazy to think that they're already on a list like that.

I don't seem to remember the title changing hands alot when Cena had his title reigns. :shifty:

Austin spent more time chasing the belt than he did holding it, when Vince was keeping it away from him. That's why he's not higher up

Other than Cena's first reign (which was pretty much 14 months, minus the 3 weeks Edge had it) and his 2nd reign (12-13 months), all of his other reigns (World and WWE Title) have been less than 3 months.

Doesn't feel like it.

14 & 12-13 months is pretty ridiculous though these days,especially for his first reigns.

Yeah, he's clearly an outlier.

suprising...... Never would have thought Orton was so high on the list and HBK was barely Top 10......

The biggest problem with this list is you have to consider how often the strap was defended. I'm sure while HBK is at 11, he defended the title more than Bruno. Not taking anything away from Bruno, Backlund, or Pedro (fuck Hogan) but guys like Cena, Orton, Savage, Bret, etc had to put their title on the line more often.

It did take Orton twice as many reigns to topple HBK in total days and about 100 days less than Austin who held it 6 times as well.

After reading this I'm interest to see who's defended the title the most times. Just don't include house shows post Diesel's win against Backlund. Or just count the prominent defenses, since the pre-RAW era will be dicey.

Totally didn't think Savage would be that high, seeing as Hulk dominated the 80s basically. I mean he had his time, but idk...

Apart from his reign as a heel in 2001, Austin never really held the title that long.

I knew Sammartino held it the longest, just didnt realise the gap between 1st and 10th was so big, hes almost double Hogans in 2nd. Love to see a comparison to the NWA/WCW title though.

The complete list (I'm counting all winning-then-losing-it-the-same-night as a 1-day reign, and basing time on WWE.com's title histories):

1) Bruno Sammartino 4040
2) Hulk Hogan 2184
3) Bob Backlund 2138
4) Pedro Morales 1027
5) John Cena 948
6) Bret Hart 654
7) Triple H 542
8) Stone Cold 529
9) Randy Savage 519
10) Randy Orton 421
11) Shawn Michaels 399
12) Diesel 358
13) Brock Lesnar 353
14) The Rock 308
15) Kurt Angle 299
16) Superstar Billy Graham 296
17) Ultimate Warrior 294
18) Yokozuna 281
19) JBL 280
20) Undertaker 238
21) Sheamus 161
22) Edge 139
23) Eddie Guerrero 133
24) Ric Flair 118
25) Chris Jericho 98
26) Sid 97
27) Big Show 78
28) Sgt. Slaughter 64
29) Rob Van Dam 55
30) Jeff Hardy 42
31) Batista 37
32) Mankind 36
33) The Iron Sheik 28
34) Ivan Koloff 21
35) Buddy Rogers 18
36) The Miz 12 and counting
37) Stan Stasiak 9
38) Mr. McMahon 4
39T) Andre The Giant 1
39T) Kane 1

30) Jeff Hardy 42
31) Batista 37


This made me laugh for some reason :$

Would be different if Vic Venom was writing these days.

His pal Vince Russo would be in the top 20 at least.

Eventually that was a given.

I was going to say how is that possible, but then I remember he held the belt the longest with the World Title, but if you combine Batista's reigns he is pretty high up too.

I read Stan Stasiak as Sean Stasiak and freaked out that I had missed that epic moment in WWE history :'(

Also amazed that I would trust loopydates facts that much that I would believe that Sean Stasiak held the title if he told me he had.

MEAT!

Things get a little craziak...on Planet Stasiak!

I'm sort of surprised that Orton has cracked the top ten. He's also got 28 days as World Heavyweight Champion.

If you combine the time that Hulk Hogan spent as WCW Champion with his time as WWE Champion, you get a total of 3361, I believe. That's still 679 days behind Bruno Sammartino.

Ric Flair spent 3101 days as NWA World Heavyweight Champion, 506 days as WCW Champion, 118 days as WWE Champion, and I don't know whether people count this, but he spent 63 days as WCW International World Heavyweight Champion. That gives Ric Flair a total of 3788 days as a World Champion. It's tricky with Flair, because it's hard to know just which of his title reigns are considered "cannon," so to speak.

So either way you cut the cheese, Bruno Sammartino is still the leader, with Ric Flair in second and Hulk Hogan in third.

The guy at 4th as WWF Champion, Pedro Morales, is from Puerto Rico.

Yes!

The thing that impresses me the most is that somebody like Shawn, did it in only like 2-3 runs with the belt, same with Savage. They did these numbers in a era where the belt meant something not just a hot potato that is now. So to me honestly I would love for them to add such and such dates in so many title reigns, that would really make the list really feel more legit and add more to some hall of fame resumes!

Tomorrow I'll try tackling the World Title (since its RAW return, anyway. Too complicated before that), then combining the two. Really interested to see how that changes things.

Kane had it for a day. Andre had it for about 3 minutes.

and he only had two reign

Let's just hope he's not like every Money In The Bank winner that only lasts max 6 months with the title.

Six months in this title climate is amazing.

Beyond 6 months for a Mitb winner is a record, though I see Miz being the champion for a while because he draws so much attention from different markets so only be an interm champion like previous MITB champs.

I don't see Miz going into Mania with the title. Would be VERY surprised if he did.

I don't either but I wouldn't be suprised if WWE rides his popularity wave. I mean having his feud with Orton finalized at Wrestlmania is what I think they'll do.

The Miz is going to get a Kurt Angle reign, I think. He'll probably hold the belt until Elimination Chamber, and after that be slipped into a nice match on the upper mid-card at Mania, while the "established guys" fight over the WWE Title.

I'd be interested to see the average length of each guy's World Title reigns.

I could. Miz V Orton/Cena could get decent attention, while looking like a second string main even to Undertaker/Kane, which is kind of what they want it seems.

With both men receiving pushes, and their natural chemistry between each other, I could see a random Miz vs. Morrison match at WrestleMania. Even a mere few weeks ago, the match might have seemed "too undercard" for Mania, but The Miz would be a former WWE Champion (I predict he loses the title at Elimination Chamber to either Orton or Cena, with the other winning the Royal Rumble), and Morrison should have some upwards momentum behind him (could see him getting a marathon run in the Royal Rumble at this point).

All you need to do is have Morrison eliminate Miz from the RAW Chamber at the February PPV. After that, The Miz hits the Skull Crushing Finale on Morrison, allowing a heel (let's say...Wade Barrett) to pin Morrison. The two are now set on a path for WrestleMania, which also plays off them facing each other in the opening tag team match at Mania this year.

Same list, World Title:



1) Triple H 651
2) Batista 507
3) Edge 295
4) Undertaker 240
5) CM Punk 159
6) Chris Benoit 154
7T) Kane 140 and counting
7T) Rey Mysterio 140
9) John Cena 105
10) Chris Jericho 104
11) King Booker 95
12) Goldberg 84
13) Kurt Angle 82
14) Jack Swagger 79
15) The Great Khali 61
16) Jeff Hardy 29
17T) Shawn Michaels 28
17T) Randy Orton 28

The combined list. Trips and Cena both crack the top five when you count both belts. Another bit of a shocker is that there's more than a year between Morales at #6 and Bret at #7.

1. Bruno Sammartino 4040
2. Hulk Hogan 2184
3. Bob Backlund 2138
4. Triple H 1193
5. John Cena 1053
6. Pedro Morales 1027
7. Bret Hart 654
8. Batista 544
9. Stone Cold 529
10. Randy Savage 519
11. Undertaker 478
12. Randy Orton 449
13. Edge 434
14. Shawn Michaels 427
15. Kurt Angle 381
16. Diesel 358
17. Brock Lesnar 353
18. The Rock 308
19. Superstar Billy Graham 296
20. Ultimate Warrior 294
21. Yokozuna 281
22. JBL 280
23. Chris Jericho 202
24. Sheamus 161
25. CM Punk 159
26. Chris Benoit 154
27. Kane 141 and counting
28. Rey Mysterio 140
29. Eddie Guerrero 133
30. Ric Flair 118
31. Sid 97
32. King Booker 95
33. Goldberg 84
34. Jack Swagger 79
35. Big Show 78
36. Jeff Hardy 71
37. Sgt. Slaughter 64
38. The Great Khali 61
39. Rob Van Dam 55
40. Mankind 36
41. The Iron Sheik 28
42. Ivan Koloff 21
43. Buddy Rogers 18
44. The Miz 13 and counting
45. Stan Stasiak 9
46. Mr. McMahon 4
47. Andre The Giant 1

Average title reign now. First number is average number of days (rounded to nearest day) with number of championships in parentheses. Then, total number of days with the title and the specific championships in parentheses.

2020 (2 reigns) Bruno Sammartino 4040 (2 WWE)
1069 (2 reigns) Bob Backlund 2138 (2 WWE)
1027 (1 reign) Pedro Morales 1027 (1 WWE)
364 (6 reigns) Hulk Hogan 2184 (6 WWE)
358 (1 reign) Diesel 358 (1 WWE)
296 (1 reign) Superstar Billy Graham 296 (1 WWE)
294 (1 reign) Ultimate Warrior 294 (1 WWE)
280 (1 reign) JBL 280 (1 WWE)
260 (2 reigns) Randy Savage 519 (2 WWE)
154 (1 reign) Chris Benoit 154 (1 World)
141 (2 reigns) Yokozuna 281 (2 WWE)
133 (1 reign) Eddie Guerrero 133 (1 WWE)
131 (5 reigns) Bret Hart 654 (5 WWE)
118 (3 reigns) Brock Lesnar 353 (3 WWE)
117 (9 reigns) John Cena 1053 (7 WWE, 2 World)
107 (4 reigns) Shawn Michaels 427 (3 WWE, 1 World)
95 (1 reign) King Booker 95 (1 World)
92 (13 reigns) Triple H 1193 (8 WWE, 5 World)
91 (6 reigns) Batista 544 (2 WWE, 4 World)
88 (6 reigns) Stone Cold 529 (6 WWE)
84 (1 reign) Goldberg 84 (1 World)
81 (2 reigns) Sheamus 161 (2 WWE)
79 (1 reign) Jack Swagger 79 (1 World)
76 (5 reigns) Kurt Angle 381 (4 WWE, 1 World)
71 (2 reigns) Kane 141 and counting (1 WWE, 1 World)
70 (2 reigns) Rey Mysterio 140 (2 World)
68 (7 reigns) Undertaker 478 (4 WWE, 3 World)
64 (7 reigns) Randy Orton 449 (6 WWE, 1 World)
64 (1 reign) Sgt. Slaughter 64 (1 WWE)
61 (1 reign) The Great Khali 61 (1 World)
59 (2 reigns) Ric Flair 118 (2 WWE)
55 (1 reign) Rob Van Dam 55 (1 WWE)
53 (3 reigns) CM Punk 159 (3 World)
51 (4 reigns) Chris Jericho 202 (1 WWE, 3 World)
49 (2 reigns) Sid 97 (2 WWE)
48 (9 reigns) Edge 434 (4 WWE, 5 World)
44 (7 reigns) The Rock 308 (7 WWE)
39 (2 reigns) Big Show 78 (2 WWE)
28 (1 reign) The Iron Sheik 28 (1 WWE)
24 (3 reigns) Jeff Hardy 71 (1 WWE, 2 World)
21 (1 reign) Ivan Koloff 21 (1 WWE)
18 (1 reign) Buddy Rogers 18 (1 WWE)
13 (1 reign) The Miz 13 and counting (1 WWE)
12 (3 reigns) Mankind 36 (3 WWE)
9 (1 reign) Stan Stasiak 9 (1 WWE)
4 (1 reign) Mr. McMahon 4 (1 WWE)
1 (1 reign) Andre The Giant 1 (1 WWE)

Ric Flair down at #30 with 118? Wow. Mr "16 Time" World Champion.

Well, that's not counting his multitude of NWA/WCW title reigns. I'm only counting the WWE Title and the World Title since it showed up on RAW as a WWE championship.

Right, but still, you'd expect him to be "up there", uknow? I guess it exemplifies when someone says "Yeah, he won 16 World Championships, but he lost them 17 times".

Even before the combined list, you also have to factor in that only one contemporary is above him on the top ten.

When you're effectively only behind the biggest merch mover and worhorse of the company, it totally destroys your logic.

Of course, Cena's Only there because he's marketable, so that totally evens out, right?

I don't remember when Cena was the World Heavyweight champion.

Your math is wrong.

It was when the titles switched brands. Jeff was feuding with HHH and Kozlov on Smackdown.

Did Cena beat Orton for the Heavyweight title?

He definitely beat Jericho for it.

Yeah, didn't he return at Survivor Series or something and beat Jericho?

Cena also won the World title at Mania 25.

I always thought foley held the belt longer than that, kinda shocked by that.

add the AWA,NWA,ECW,WCW titles now and see everything change :)