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StrikeForce planning for an 8 man Heavyweight Tournament in 2011
http://www.lowkick.com/Strikeforce/S...-in-2011-11289
StrikeForce planning for an 8 man Heavyweight Grand Prix Tournament in 2011 Californian based MMA Promotion StrikeForce are set to hold an 8 man Heavyweight Grand Prix tournament in 2011. The tournament is set to feature some of StrikeForce's best known talent and will include their reigning Heavyweight Champion Alistair ''The Demolition Man'' Overeem, who won the K-1 World Grand Prix last weekend in Saitama, Japan. Alongside the Reem, fighters such as Fedor Emelianenko, Josh Barnett, Fabricio Werdum, Big Foot Silva, Brett Rogers, Andrei Arlovski, and Sergei Kharitonov are all set the feature in the tournament. The fighters are all in negotiations about taking part, it is unknown whether or not the scheduled bout between Fedor Emelianenko and Antonio Silva will serve as part of the tournament. The tournament will take place over three different events, unlike some of the Grand Prix's that take place in just one night. The Athletic commissions in America are very hesitant to approve of one night tournaments, so this shouldn't be a problem for StrikeForce. |
This would be awesome, but I'm not so optimistic Strikeforce can make it happen.
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No lashley?
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LOL, Lashley has would get murdered by everyone of those guys.
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I doubt it
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Also that's in reference to the tournament, not Lashley getting destroyed (he would absolutely get murdered).
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If Overeem is the champion why the fuck are they doing a tournament? Why can't they just put the match ups people want to see together? It's not hard. Alistair vs. Werdum for the heavyweight title since Werdum beat Fedor. Fedor vs. Big Foot for the # 1 contender spot. Winners fight winners. Losers fight losers and let the other guys sort it out.
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Because a tournament would be awesome, and give them something to gte noticed by the casual fan.
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I don't see how this gets the casual fan interested. A tournament over three events might as well just be separate matches instead.
Their heavyweight champion has defended the belt once in the last three years but now Coker's going to be able to get him to do a tournament? Fedor has renegotiated with Strikeforce after every fight he's had. They're renegotiating with him now... and he's coming off a fucking loss! Plus Fedor hasn't fought more than two times since 2005 so I don't see him participating in a tournament taking place over three events. Look at the names they're including outside of Overeem and Fedor. CSAC hasn't even reinstated Barnett yet and Barnett is a guy who has failed a steroid test three times. Doubt the fans will be clamoring to see him. Brett Rogers isn't a name people want to see either. He's already lost big time to Fedor and Overeem. Arlovski, while I love him to death, isn't much better because he's lost to Rogers, Silva and Fedor all consecutively, so if you're the casual fan, you've already seen him get beat on t.v. And again, it's not like all of these fights would be taking place in one night which would mean at least two of the events will be Fedor and Overeem KOing people they've already KOed. Why not just cut the bullshit and have the top four heavyweights, Fedor, Overeem, Silva and Werdum fight each other for the championship and number one contender spots? |
Im convinced Barnett will fail another drug test and this whole tournament will fall apart.
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I think it's more likely that Fedor and Overeem will make it to the finals and the fight will never take place because M1 will demand to renegotiate again. I seriously wouldn't be surprised if Bellator surpasses Strikeforce as the #2 MMA company in the next five years. James Toney vs. Herschel Walker would probably draw more casual fans than the first two events of that tournament. Hell, a Gina Carano weigh in would probably draw more casual fans than the opening fights of that tournament. |
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Yeah, that as well. Way too many obstacles to overcome. It would end up like the Showtime Super 6 with fighters pulling out and shit. |
If it happens it's gonna be a big deal, the novelty of a tournament alone will attract viewers, and help gain some recognition for Strikeforce.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/extra/mma/...ory?id=5989025
Shit starts if feburary, makes me hard to think about it. |
Fedor/Silva should be interesting, Silva had trouble with Mike Kyle in the stand up in his last fight, so I hope we get to see Fedor smash his face in.
Overeem/Werdum should also be epic. |
Nobody else gives a fuck, really? Come on people, it a heavyweight tournament with some of the best in the world, no anyone?
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apparently it is happening. andrei has been training for it
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and, i give a fuck
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Sounds mint
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^^ Same. Think he'll get smashed by Barnett tho, thats if he makes it out of the first round. Such a disappointment recently.
Wanna see Overeem/Werdum pretty bad tho. |
Whoevers comes out of this will have a very strong case for being the #1 ranked heavyweight in the world, especially if it's Werdum, Overeem or Fedor.
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I know Freddy Roach was his boxing coach, no idea who his MMA coach is.
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i care about werdum/overeem and the winner probably fighting fedor. but other than that i don't give a toss. i don't think werdum could beat fedor again anyway, he just overcommitted last time and got caught out.
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I'm not sure why, but the brackets have a 'anti climatic' feel to it. I mean if Werdum beats Overeem, then beats Fedor again...I mean it wouldn't matter who came out the other bracket. Barnett and Arlovski are 'names' but c'mon son! I can't see them winning UNLESS this was a one night tourney.
But crazier things have happended. and I can't wait to watch! |
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I'm sure we can argue this point down, but Fedor didn't just get 'caught out'. Werdum put a gorgeous display of jits from his guard. He went for the triangle, transitioned to an armbar, and finished with both! Fedor didn't stand a chance. And I love you Mask, I just don't want to diminish the beautiful display of Jiu Jitsu that Werdum displayed in closing that fight out. |
i'm not saying he did though :'( its more that when you're whooping a world class bjj guy on his feet in the first minute you don't necessarily have to jump into his guard to finish the fight. anderson silva doesn't jump in when he knocks most guys down.
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but GOT DAMN!!!! I wanna see Overeem/Werdum! I wanna see Overeem/Fedor! and I wanna see Overeem/Barnett.
The way it plays out this would definitely cement SF's heavy weight champ as the baddest man on the planet |
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Of course, there's no real way we can tell because the UFC guys will never fight the Strikeforce guys, but as of right now... in my humble opinion, Strikeforce has the more appealing heavyweight roster on paper. |
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Well now I need to know what it is. Also tell him to fucking shave that ridiculous beard already.
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I just read that he actually started training with Jackson after he lost to Rogers. Can't blame him, no way someone with his supposed boxing skill should be getting knocked out by Rogers.
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Interesting read here...sounds a lot like Pride, but totally feels like a potential clusterfuck.
Humbly submitted for your reading pleasure: Contrary to initial reports, Alistair Overeem’s Strikeforce heavyweight title will not be on the line at any point during the promotion’s upcoming heavyweight grand prix. Since the eight-man, single-elimination tournament was formally announced in early January, word has circulated that Overeem’s title would be up for grabs in each of the champion’s bouts. During a Thursday media conference call, Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker clarified both the rules and structure of the tournament. “The winner of the final match will be crowned Strikeforce World Grand Prix champion, and he’ll receive an opportunity to fight for the Strikeforce heavyweight belt at that time,” Coker explained. If Overeem were to come out on top, Coker said that Strikeforce would look at having the reigning champ fight an opponent whom he did not meet in the tournament. Along with Overeem, the bracket includes such notable heavyweights as Fedor Emelianenko, Fabricio Werdum, Antonio Silva, Josh Barnett and Andrei Arlovski. The tournament is set to begin on Feb. 12 at Strikeforce “Fedor vs. Silva,” which takes place at the Izod Center in East Rutherford, N.J. The promotion is still shopping for a location and date for the tournament’s second round. Coker stated that “pending injuries, the semifinals would be late June, July.” While it was initially thought that each tournament bout would consist of five, five-minute rounds, all quarterfinal and semifinal matches will be scheduled for the standard three five-minute periods. Only the tournament final remains a five-round affair. “We just didn’t feel that it was fair for one person to fight five rounds, one person to fight three rounds,” said Coker. “There was debate about, well, should the final fight -- which is five rounds -- be a title fight? But then, what if Alistair wasn’t there? It just became very confusing.” In the case that any of the tournament’s matches are ruled a draw, Coker revealed that a fourth judge will be on hand to score the bout independently and select a winner “based on overall performance.” The rule is similar to that of longtime official Nelson “Doc” Hamilton’s proposed Martial Arts Specific Scoring system. Of course, with any tournament comes the possibility of a participant being sidelined by injury. While a trio of reserve bouts has been booked for the Feb. 12 event, Coker said that the selection process for a replacement fighter, if needed, would be more involved than a simple swap. “If a fighter qualifies to advance in the tournament but, for any reason, cannot advance, we’re forming a five-person tournament review committee who will select a fighter to advance in his place,” said Coker. “This fighter will be chosen from a pool of fighters that includes the previous opponent and the winners of the reserve matches.” Heading the tournament review committee will be Strikeforce rules director Cory Schafer. Names of the other tournament committee members and further tournament rules are expected to be released shortly. |
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I want to be more excited, Im sure it will get bigger when Saturday comes.
Also, if Arlovski doesn't win, I'm holding Reavant responsible. |
i trained with him twice before this event and it was before the event was announced. :p
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This will be a moment that define Fedore's future imo. If he loses here he will be realized as washed up. If he wins then his loss will have less impact. But I think there is a good chance he will loose against Silva IMO what do u think?
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I'm backing Fedor.
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Antonio Silva's chin is so big he might as well paint a bullseye on it. I think Fedor's gonna get a first round KO.
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Arlovski vs the other dude up next.
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Time for Arlovski to hang em up.
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Down goes your boy
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Gina Carano to return to the cage soon. Here comes the Last Emperor.
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where is everyone watching this?
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That 2nd round was fucking amazing to watch!
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Holy shit. Stoppage! Silva won.
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Fans can boo all they want, Silva fucked him up and no way Fedor should be allowed to continue with his eye like that. Holy shit.
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Fedor just got pwned.
Sherdog forums have crashed. |
I bet Fedor is wishing he would have taken that UFC contract.
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That sucked. Fight was stopped because Fedor's eye is swollen shut. I was ready for the last round. I was thinking how Fedor constantly goes up against guys much bigger and heavier than him.
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Nothing sucked about that fight at all. Fedor showed a hell of a lot of guts to take those shots when he was mounted and skill in avoiding being submitted by a much bigger BJJ black belt. His eye got thrashed and there was no way he should have been allowed to continue.
Somewhere Dana White has a huge shit eating grin on his face. |
Holy shit, the legend retires?!
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Fedor's got a bunch of cuts and bruises all over his face and some nasty ones behind his ear and either side of his neck. |
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Dana did that :) after he lost to Werdum too. I didn't mind it then, but it wasn't necessary this time around. |
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By the way, who gives a shit about Gina Carano coming back!? Why did they feel the need to hype that. Amanda Nunes ass > Gina Carano anyways.
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I was trying to see if they sold that jacket Fedor was wearing earlier. His shirt looks better on TV than it does on sites.
Alistair Overeem vs. Fabricio Werdum and Josh Barnett vs. Brett Rogers on April 9th possibly. Will Barnett actually stay clean and get to compete? Kind of freaky how big Overeem looks. |
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Or talk about something... Or bite your lip.... Possibly show your tits... |
Kharitonov is 1-0 vs Werdum and 1-1 vs Overeem with the most recent win going to Kharitonov so do you guys think there's a good chance this dude will actually win the grand prix if the finals are him going up against either of the two?
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If it stays standing, or if a guy just wants to counter.
It's MMA, "where anything is possible".... Really. |
Sherdog crashed harder than T-Dub on Diesel's return/
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Josh Barnett has it all bagged up
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I cried seeing fedor lose.:'(
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Fedor doesn't need to retire, he needs to drop to LW where he won't have to face monsters who have 55 pounds on him.
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Or you know, do a pull or two.
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http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/2/13...redible-career
Take his cock out of your mouth, and fuck off with the Randy bit. Fedor is a legend, but this crying over his loss is ridiculous. He should have tested himself, but he didn't. Not saying that he wasn't good, but he could have done more. |
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So could anyone else in a diluted tourney...
Though your sentence is a bit haard to reaed. |
Sorry, im under the influence and very tired.
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No shane in thaat///
No sham in... Well, u knw wht I meanz :) [insert cat] |
Lets hope nobody gets injured, cuz those stand by guys are SHIT.
Del Rosario is alright but the rest reads like a whos who of MMA jabronies. |
o wait, they just made Fedor an alternate :|
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:'(
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But seriously, where was Arlovskis boxing defence at, he had his hands down, let Kharitonov take away his space, and while his footwork was ok, he didn't really make much use of it. How does he expect to move to boxing if he's getting knocked out by the likes of Rodgers and Kharinonov. :-\ |
he stopped moving and let himself get put into the fence and then got counterpunched off of a power shot.... that would be why he lost
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I could see that, although he did eat a couple of soild shots before finally going out. So I didn't think it was his chin, so much as lack of protecting the chin.
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He looked so good for the first 2 minutes too.
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yea it was depressing watching it cuz he came out blazing and looked great, and then he let himself get backed into the fence and didnt move out of the way and then he threw a wild shot and got clipped
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anyone notice the scar on his chest?
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I kinda did, wasnt sure what i was, he have surgery or something? I know you said there was something wrong with Andrei that was keeping him from performing.
And yes, it was depressing, I was hoping for him yet again, and early it looked like he should be outbox Kharintonov, then he got caught up in a slugfest.. |
Fedor got exposed again.
I cant believe so many people call him the best in the world. Hardly, he got mauled and man handled by Silva like nobody's business. He could do NOTHING to Silva, it was like watch a 3 year old kid fight a 25 year old man. Fedor legend? I dont think so. More like washed up former legend with a bunch of wins against cans. Overeem or Rogers are gonna take this. |
Silva's got 4 inches and 30 lbs on Fedor, maybe even more. It's pretty hard to get that off of you. Also he had about a 7 inch reach advantage. Silva had many advantages but Despite being at a disadvantage in many of his previous fights, Fedor has beaten the odds and if the fight stayed standing up he would have had a good chance to take out Silva. He goes into every fight fearless, trying to knock out everyone in his path. Fedor is in the tail end of his career and it's not unexpected for a fighter to lose when they are in this period.
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Honestly, I think the fact that both Werdum and Silva have better ground games than anyone Fedor has faced in about five years played a part in those losses.
People like Arlovski or Rogers didn't present as many problems stylistically. I think Fedor jumped into Silva's guard so willingly because he underestimated that aspect of Silva's game which led to him eventually getting mounted and taking the beating that ultimately stopped the fight. Hong Man Choi was even bigger than Silva, but not as skilled so Fedor had an easier time with him. |
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It sucks that so many of the casual fans are going to remember Fedor for the two losses instead of the dominance he displayed prior.
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I am not saying Fedor wasnt good in the past. He was. But I am sayin its ridiculous that people keep calling him the best in the world when today he is far from that. And not just because of this loss or Werdum loss, hes been bad before that only he faced inferior opponents like Arlovski. Even Rogers almost beat Fedor. Fedor USED to be the best ever (argurably) but has not been close to that for years. Thats all im sayin... |
So, did Arlovski have heart surgery?
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nah
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Was he stabbed, what happpened? Tell us.
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