Stop living in the past!
 

WCW is dead!
ECW is dead!
The Attitude Era is dead!
Bobby Duncum Jr. is dead!

Get over it!

:foc:

This ain't 2000 anymore.

but... but.... The Kliq was really really awesome! :'(

Too soon:nono:

O rly?

Rammsteinmad, you would have never made it in the Attitude Era.

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Good thing I live in the future.

The internet is basically like owning a time machine...So I can live in the glory days if I want to. I don't want to.

The saddest thing is...this actually did need its own thread.

This thread will make a difference for maybe 1 day maximum.

Awesome.

Was this thread directed at The Naitch?

Nah, probably like 35.7% of the wrestling forum posters.

Speaking of the future... ADAM EVANS ALL THE WAY TO WWE CHAMPION!

Remember that time Al Snow was European Champion and Blackman was the Hardcore Champion and Malenko was the Cruiserweight champion.

Good times.

This is a powerful movement in the making...keep it up...:y:

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Remember when the Hardcore title changed hands due to a sleeping champion. EPIC TV right there.

dont be a bitch ram... let us hope and dream that one day wrestling will be like it was in the glory days!!!

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This fills me to the brim with utter joy.

Tell ECW is dead to Tommy Dreamer

Fuck the past. Anyone who mentions last weeks Raw is a giant pussy who is living in the past. Get over it, you douches.

Kane needs to wear his mask again.

Did you just watch my Eddie G Clip there Hollywood? Did you? Really? Really? Really?

Of course. I love the cheating face Eddie :'(

Love, as in present tense. Ya hear that Rammstein? Du hast indeed.

Best gimmick ever, makes me proud of all Mexicans.

Stop yelling at me.

Stop living in the past! 2010 is gone and won't be coming back!!!

No it didn't. This is like the billionth thread on the same concept.

Everything would be better if we all went back to the days when a guy shoving another guy's face into his ass was popular.

The real problem is that there is way too much stuff to watch on Mondays. My cable box has the capability to hold like 2000 channels. There is like 100 channels that just show music with no music videos with it.

Too much stuff to watch or listen to. Also the ability to stream is on the internet now means that people are watching online instead of on their tv. If WWE could somehow track all of the JTV streams instead of just trying to ban them they could use that information to show people are watching it to their sponsors. You can't skip the commercials when it's live, so any live stream sees all USA network commercials.

WCW is dead!
ECW is dead!
The Attitude Era is dead!

Get over it!

...

All of the above reminds me of TNA. So I guess it's still going!

The Fan

And yet, despite those "billion" threads, we still have to put up with guys banging on about how the Attitude Era was better or how the Titles "used" to mean something, etc.

Seems the message isn't getting through. Will this thread help? Probably not. But what harm is there in having a "billion and one" threads on it?

Can we let TNA know then? Bwwwhhaahaahaaaaa.... :shifty:

No seriously, I agree. The WWE is going in a good direction at the moment and is very enjoyable, and there are plenty of talented guys in the independents putting on routinely good shows. Why anyone wants to see Mae Young and Mark Henry's sexual escapades again is a mystery.

Let's get real XL.

The older teens/young adults grew up on the Attitude Era.

Now we have to be put through watered down mayonnaise like Sheamus and Santino and Cena.

Who wouldn't be pissed off?

And what's our alternative?

TNA? The retirement home for wrestlers? The Company that has the owner sitting ringside, talk about kayfabe...

We don't have shit.. Instead we are being led by the PG era for merchandise sales for Cena and Linda McMahons political ambitions for the next 30 years until she heels over.

Let's be blunt and not sugarcoat it.

We miss MONDAY NIGHT WARS. Not just the uncensorship that went on.

We miss tag team divisions and cruiserweights and groups like Nexus.

We don't particularly enjoy seeing Cena come down and play his hero/superman gimmick and then having Santino pull a few pranks then a diva match then the stupid main event.

We want more depth and hardcore action.

What happened to the Cactus Jacks?

We are upset that WWE lets people like Shelton Benjamin and Mickie James/Tara go to be left with The Miz and Vickie Guerrero.

It's like spitting on everything true wrestlers meant to the WWE Universe and the wrestling world.

Cheap Heat isn't cool, it's just downright lame.

whether you want to admit it or not miz is good right now. vickie guerrero's character doesnt take anything away from the product

the only things mick foley is great at are talking and falling down

you don't need hardcore to be good, you dont need profanity to be good.

the people who are not able to let go of the attitude era just dont like change plain and simple it's idiotic to be stuck on this one moment in time

The heels of today are pussies.

Miz n Barrett are suppose to be the top heels of Raw yet they can't win cleanly or aggressively.

They need to have their boys come down.

Also..

When Vickie Guerrero is screaming and showing her fat ass as she tries to do a frog splash off the top rope, I'd consider that a loss for the product when a percentage of the viewers turn the channel in disgust.

The only thing I miss from the Attitude Era is Mr. McMahon. He was by far the best heel the business has and probably will ever see. He kept me glued to the TV. Other than him, the rest of it could have fucked off.

http://www.accelerator3359.com/Wrest...s/duncumjr.jpg

2011, Zombie Duncum is winning the belt you guys! Believe that!!!

The Old School episode of Raw was one of the best and most-watched Raws of 2010 and brought back a lot of fond memories for a lot of people... including a lot of us here. Stop living in the past, huh?

More for nostalgic reasons though PP. And it wasn't THAT good, I still believe the show was over-rated a bit.

For nostalgic reasons, exactly. As I wrote, it brought back a lot of fond memories for us. Perhaps if things were as good today as they were back then, we'd have no reason to live in the past.

The only "harm" from threads like this is the hair your palms will grow from all that masturbating.

So anyway...Who said anything about harm? I didn't. I just said it didn't need to be made.

Making people change the channel proves you're a good heel.

That was on Wrestlemania. Who the fuck changes the channnel for WrestleMania even for a minute?

Anybody that had a fucking life and didn't waste 60 dollars ordering it?

U Mad?

u mad?

No, you have to fucking order it to change the channel on it. Thank god CSL will have another idiot to insult other than me since SoccerLegs got the van-hammer.

No, CSL, THIS is the best sequence of posts so far in 2011.

Did you just call yourself an idiot? :|

u mad?

Dude, you spazz out on a wrestling forum over the details of a fake sport.

You don't get to play the "have a life" card. Ever.

If you only knew Junior.

I am in half a mood to rep Kane Knight for that. I should probably leave from here before I actually do it.

Edit: Too late :mad:

I knew Junior, and you, sir, are no Junior.

I miss the spazz-out thread

Stop living in the past!!!

And what amount of harping on the past will help this?

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at 5:10 mark.

Coming from a guy who ran a business that went under.

Did anyone watch between 1985 and 1997?

I figure not many did. We have it way better today then that span of 12 years.

By 2014, a new popularity boom will happen in pro-wrestling.

This is true.

Yes, when WWE drops the PG Rating ahead of WrestleMania XXX ;)

I'm sure you can make Kano spazz.

"better" does not equal "good."

Further, the assumption of another boom is a really bad idea. The idea that things will always bounce back is pretty much the worst business model ever, and a poor way to justify the current state to a fan or from a fan's perspective.

Of course, there could be a billion dollar vaudeville boom any year now.

Better happen in Vegas.

People would still find things to bitch about though. If the product never changed we wouldn't have known how good it was and everyone would be complaining about how stale it is. MAYBE, instead of comparing the product with how it was 10 years ago, we could appreciate it for what it is now and you know, enjoy it?

Someone find some reviews of Raw in 98/99...

Yeah, I can definitely understand what you're saying. I guess comparing what the product is today to what it was "in the past" is like comparing apples and oranges. I do enjoy watching today, but I also miss a lot of the stuff from the past.

I don't think anyone is saying the attitude era was bad. But it's time to move on, that's the idea of the thread right? It was great while it lasted, but even if they tried the IWC would sulk because they would be trying too hard to make it like the AE and it still wouldn't be good enough.

I am in total agreement with that sentiment.

My interest in reviews from past Raws was to see how it was seen at the time. I'd bet a lot of the stuff was given shit the same way some stuff now is.

Guaranteed there was people bitching about the product back then.

I don't remember the last time Kano spazzed.

How dare you make a good post saying something that is 100% rational and correct?

I like the things mentioned in the first post except I never really watched much of WCW, but there's nothing wrong with preferring it over the modern stuff, but when you fixate on it like wrestling is the only form of entertainment, that might be a problem.

I never really got the excessive bitching, I agree the Attitude Era had more creative freedom and PG isn't as amusing as TV-14 but it still entertains me and if I hated it I wouldn't watch it/spend a lot of time bitching online about it.

OMG. If this happens.

Hey you lay off my idea, I've been planning the comeback for months now.

That's nice, except one of the things about the Attitude Era was that it kept things fresh. Even the bad steps were new and exciting. the crowds were hot, people tuned in to see what was happening.

So it's nice, but neatly misses the point. But then, so does the whole "appreciate it for what it is" nonsense. People are. It's just that, you know, nothing happens in a vacuum.

It's even dumber since WWE spends plenty of time reminding us of the prior product.

All i know is is that i loved me some sexual chocolate

Hey I totally agree with all of that. But lets be honest, do any of us really see the product changing anytime soon? And if people were accepting it for what it was we wouldn't have these threads.

There's a difference between sooking about a sucky show and sooking because it's not like it was 10 years go.

I don't live in the past....







I LIVE FOR DA MOMENT!!!!


BOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH YEAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!

Wow, I had so much to say but this thread has developed quite nicely without me.

'All's I'm saying' is that old-washed up, out of shape ex-WCW stars appearing at Wrestlemania 27 doesn't appeal to me, after 'Hardcore Justice' I hope we don't get any more One Night Stand/Hardcore Reunion/Justice/ECW shows, I'm digging the PG-stuff, whilst there are a few things that bug me, it's no different than the Attitude Era, and I'm sick of Duncum Jr. constantly coming out of retirement! :foc:

the only brave heels of the attitude era were the monsters like show or kane. hhh is one of the best heels of all time and he has always had a faction behind him

Pretty wrong there Rammestein.

The reason why you're tired of seeing the ECW guys or the retired hall of famers from WWE is because they are used frequently.

The ex WCW stars aren't used as much and a lot of us grew up watching the Monday Night Wars.

I for one would enjoy seeing some old rivalry matches on Wrestlemania, not some legends vs new shit that they toss in.

Miz is good, Morrison is good, but isn't it all a little too predictable these days?

The backstage beat downs, the ho trains, the through the crowd fighting...etc.. that was entertaining.. Seeing people thrown off a cage, now that was WRESTLING...

If I want to watch Miz and his PG self, I'll turn on Kermit the Frog and reminense about those old times.

That's gr8 you enjoy the PG ERA.. Ask your dad to buy you a Cenanation t shirt to really top it all off.

I'll buy Hardys Screw PG shirt.

The Fan

No that was a stunt.

yeah and as an 11 yr old, I thought they were cool!

The Attitude Era inspired my generation to take up Backyard Wrestling and to get more involved in physical hobbies.

I bet Adam Evans misses the Attitude Era.

The FaN

I was a child of the 1980's (ten years old in '88) and there are a lot of things from that decade that I sorely miss.

Those were the days when the M in MTV stood for music, not mundane... when I would spend Saturdays playing "Pac-Man" at the local video game arcade, or "Red Rover" with my cousins in our backyards... and when I would eat "Candy Cigarettes," and watch "Alf," "Chips," and "You Can't Do That On Television". That was also when I believed in Santa Clause, before the beginning of "Sports Entertainment," and before I figured out that everything in wrestling is a work.

My point is, IMO, a lot of things were better back then. A lot of you weren't here in the 1980's and you missed out on a lot. There's plenty about the WWE that I enjoy today, that's why I still watch it. But if I had a choice between being a kid again, watching "wrestling," and having the illusion that it's "real," or being an adult and watching "Sports Entertainment," I'd go back to the 80's in a heartbeat.

Get the fuck out of this thread you retard.

FTR I've been a wrestling fan since 1993. But since my last post told you to fuck off out of this thread, I don't expect you to see this. :kiss:

Maybe he'll kill himself with backyard wrestling. Don't discourage him.

:shifty:

Here, people...listen and learn:

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:kiss:

Here's the whole video...from 4:40 on...listen and learn!

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I watched wrestling in the 80s. Had to sneak it over at friends houses, so I didn't watch it all the time, but I've seen the good and the bad.

But hey, if you don't think the Attitude Era is the end all, you probably like Cena! :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Anyway, the Attitude Era had a lot of trash, like any other era. What kept it going is that everything was so exciting, even the shite seemed exciting. 90s era 2 Cool got larger pops than most of the main eventers these days. That's not to say they were brilliant wrestlers, or hugely charismatic, but they were huge because the Attitude Era was huge. Jamming your arse in someone's face could get over, dancing around as neon wiggers could get you over, being a porn star could get you over, talking to a head could get you over....You get the point.

People often complain about the PG Era for the wrong reasons. it's not so much that it's PG that's the problem, it's that it's...boring. The dumb shit looks worse because the product isn't as exciting. With Nexus, shit got exciting. I had a few weeks there where I tuned into every show with the same sort of anticipation as I did in the Attitude Era.

So basically, what I'm saying is the PG Era can still be good. I don't miss the blood or the barbed wire, I miss the excitement. and what really killed the Nexus Angle to most of us is that it suddenly became very predictable. I don't want the old era back, just the excitement.

If that makes sense.