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Xero 01-13-2011 11:21 AM

Val Venis Rant on Matt Hardy and Friends
 
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Also, from his Twitter:

ValVenisEnt Sean Morley
@DouceyD Hey bone head, "DINK SMOKER" is the term I use to brand Hardy fans. Take a class will ya.

ValVenisEnt Sean Morley
@ShaneHelmsCom was known to choke pipe but I had no idea he was the locker room Cock Connoisseur.

ValVenisEnt Sean Morley
So @shanehelmscom CAPTAIN DINK SMOKER speaks. Hard 2 understand when his mouth is full of Hardy jizz.


ValVenisEnt Sean Morley
Oh WOW, u r truly a brain dead DINK smoker. @therealpl can work his ass off, has a ton of talent and charisma. (cont) http://tl.gd/83vvgd

ValVenisEnt Sean Morley
@ShaneHelmsCom is another Omega loser who fit the fruity boy band deal to a T.

ValVenisEnt Sean Morley
@MATTHARDYBRAND fans will 4ever be known 4 what they really are, DINK SMOKERS! Deal with it!

ValVenisEnt Sean Morley
I am tired of being Mr nice guy and not wanting to hurt anyone's feelings. If the truth hurts, so F'in be it. I spit TRUTH FACT & LOGIC.


ValVenisEnt Sean Morley
Blow up dolls have more talent than @MattHardyBrand. RT @CatesCat @ValVenisEnt @MattHardyBrand How would you (cont) http://tl.gd/83psit

ValVenisEnt Sean Morley
ATT ALL FEMALES! If u shag @MattHardyBrand, r u a lesbian for shagging a PUSSY??? #EXW>Omega

ValVenisEnt Sean Morley
@RAMPAGEXROGERS @NWSWrestling No problem bro. I love to help out the younger guys so they don't end up learning by jumping on a trampoline.

ValVenisEnt Sean Morley
@Matthardybrand does not know the difference between a Top Wrist Lock and a Head Lock nor between a Heel Hook and a Darse Choke!

ValVenisEnt Sean Morley
@TheKevinHBrand @Matthardybrand NEWS FLASH BITCH! Matt is only on TV b/c Jeff is there, not b/c fans want him there!

ValVenisEnt Sean Morley
@ShaneHelmsCom is another glorified non talented, trampoline jumping dirt bag who thinks he can wrestle and/or entertain. All Omega=CRAP!

ValVenisEnt Sean Morley
LOOK @Matthardybrand DINK smokers, the fact you support a glorified no talent, trampoline jumping, backyarder shows how little u know period

ValVenisEnt Sean Morley
WOW! The @Matthardy DINK smokers are out in full force today. FYI DINK smokers, flossing with Matts DINK can cause serious health problems!

ValVenisEnt Sean Morley
OH OK, So @Matthardybrand cannot handle someone like me simply stating facts. Matt does not want to hear that he is a talentless moron. #EXW

thedamndest 01-13-2011 11:24 AM

He is right about Matt only being there because Jeff is there.

Loose Cannon 01-13-2011 11:24 AM

ValVenisEnt Sean Morley
@RAMPAGEXROGERS @NWSWrestling No problem bro. I love to help out the younger guys so they don't end up learning by jumping on a trampoline.


ok, no need to bring Dennis Stamp into this feud

The Pope 01-13-2011 11:33 AM

He spoke nothing but the truth, and a bit of comedy.

VSG 01-13-2011 11:34 AM

ValVenisEnt Sean Morley
Blow up dolls have more talent than @MattHardyBrand

Agreed.

Jordan 01-13-2011 11:35 AM

Wrestlers cutting poorly worded promo's on Twitter is one of the lamest things I have ever seen. If you want to "be a man" don't even respond to the little boys throwing out their play ground insults... Nobody in their right mind is jumping on board the Helm's hate wagon of HBK. He is a jealous never was, and is trying to get a small amount of spotlight so TNA is interested in signing him.

Ermaximus 01-13-2011 11:36 AM

ValVenisEnt Sean Morley
@ShaneHelmsCom was known to choke pipe but I had no idea he was the locker room Cock Connoisseur.

ValVenisEnt Sean Morley
So @shanehelmscom CAPTAIN DINK SMOKER speaks. Hard 2 understand when his mouth is full of Hardy jizz.

Hahaha. I like Sean Morley even more now. This is great stuff.

Jordan 01-13-2011 11:36 AM

And the sad thing is that, it will work. TNA and Dixie obviously check Twitter and love the drama, and want to make it into TV storyline!

thedamndest 01-13-2011 11:38 AM

Matt isn't a terrible wrestler, but he really is only famous because his brother jumps off stuff. He's going to go to TNA and put on the same match he's been putting on for the last six or seven years.

Ermaximus 01-13-2011 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 3392165)
And the sad thing is that, it will work. TNA and Dixie obviously check Twitter and love the drama, and want to make it into TV storyline!

Yet they still manage to fuck it up. These things could write themselves and TNA would still find a way to screw up.

Xero 01-13-2011 11:40 AM

Isn't he signed to WWE as an agent?

Ermaximus 01-13-2011 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3392169)
Isn't he signed to WWE as an agent?

I believe so yes.

Cool King 01-13-2011 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ermaximus (Post 3392164)
ValVenisEnt Sean Morley
@ShaneHelmsCom was known to choke pipe but I had no idea he was the locker room Cock Connoisseur.

ValVenisEnt Sean Morley
So @shanehelmscom CAPTAIN DINK SMOKER speaks. Hard 2 understand when his mouth is full of Hardy jizz.

Hahaha. I like Sean Morley even more now. This is great stuff.

And this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3392147)
ValVenisEnt Sean Morley
ATT ALL FEMALES! If u shag @MattHardyBrand, r u a lesbian for shagging a PUSSY??? #EXW>Omega


TheAdamEvansFan 01-13-2011 12:05 PM

Sorry but VAL VENIS? GTFO

Your TNA run was short lived because you were overweight, bald, and old.

Stop being jealous on others for main eventing, even if it's because of their connections.

This just goes to show how UNEDUCATED some wrestlers are. His spelling is awful.

It makes me want to stop watching wrestling forever. (not stop posting here, srry guys!)

It's just like when Test would rant about WWE and it's PG rating. He couldn't spell worth shit.

These are the type of people who take steroids to further their career because they can't make up for it on MIC like The Miz.

GTFO SEAN MORLEY, YOU'RE A WASHED UP HAS BEEN.

bigslimjj 01-13-2011 12:09 PM

Bullet proof rings? WTF? I have never seen a bullet proof ring.lol

Johnny Vegas 01-13-2011 12:12 PM

Damn, Morley is going in lol

Haze 01-13-2011 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheAdamEvansFan (Post 3392194)
Sorry but VAL VENIS? GTFO

Your TNA run was short lived because you were overweight, bald, and old.

Stop being jealous on others for main eventing, even if it's because of their connections.

This just goes to show how UNEDUCATED some wrestlers are. His spelling is awful.

It makes me want to stop watching wrestling forever. (not stop posting here, srry guys!)

It's just like when Test would rant about WWE and it's PG rating. He couldn't spell worth shit.

These are the type of people who take steroids to further their career because they can't make up for it on MIC like The Miz.

GTFO SEAN MORLEY, YOU'RE A WASHED UP HAS BEEN.

Morley's run was short lived because he left, not because he was fired.

Johnny Vegas 01-13-2011 12:14 PM

C'mon TAEF, Miz can't work the microphone?? :roll: i'm not on any Miz bandwagon, but i'll give credit where credit is due. He's only 2nd the Cena on RAW and probably 4th overall in the WWE.

Nightwing 01-13-2011 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon (Post 3392152)

ok, no need to bring Dennis Stamp into this feud

Val Venis and Dennis Stamp vs Matt Hardy and Shane Helms at Against All Odds.

Schlomey 01-13-2011 12:23 PM

he's right in the video but I'm not a fan of trash talking over twitter message..kinda childish.

SlickyTrickyDamon 01-13-2011 12:25 PM

Isn't he supposed to be saying Sports Entertainment since he's working for World Wrestling Entertainment?

Also isn't this video evidence that he's using a cell phone while driving? Shouldn't he get a ticket for this?

SlickyTrickyDamon 01-13-2011 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigslimjj (Post 3392200)
Bullet proof rings? WTF? I have never seen a bullet proof ring.lol

I'm sure Classie Freddie Blassie would have loved to have bulletproof rings from all the death threats he received playing a heel.

Mooияakeя™ 01-13-2011 12:37 PM

"SHAG" Thought that was just over here, but he is a Canuck I guess, may grab it through there.

MoFo 01-13-2011 12:45 PM

hahaha Big Valbowski is my new hero.

SlickyTrickyDamon 01-13-2011 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mooияakeя™ (Post 3392246)
"SHAG" Thought that was just over here, but he is a Canuck I guess, may grab it through there.

Austin Powers brought Shag to the American vernacular for a time. Yeah baby yeah!

Loose Cannon 01-13-2011 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightwing (Post 3392211)
Val Venis and Dennis Stamp vs Matt Hardy and Shane Helms at Against All Odds.

Dennis will jump for joy when he finds out he's been booked

JimmyMess 01-13-2011 01:08 PM

I'm a Val Venis mark to start so I'm biased.

A. Matt Hardy is a stupid twat to begin with.
B. His brother needs a kick in the teeth to straighten himself out.
C. Shane Helms is a douchebage who is pissed off that his legacy is the Hurricane.

Right fucking on Morley!

TheAdamEvansFan 01-13-2011 01:24 PM

I bet Morley lives in a trailer.

FourFifty 01-13-2011 01:47 PM

I'm trying to look at this from a non biased standpoint...

Jeff Hardy is an idiot, and TNA should have never pushed him as far as they have since the whole "Drug charges" thingie came up. Seriously. Putting that man in the spot light is a bad choice.

Matt Hardy is a whiny little bitch that shouldn't be hired to any company because of how often he bitches on youtube and twitter. If I recall right he showed a video of Rey without his mask. WWE is very protective of his mask because of all the merch it pushes. So what Matt Hardy is saying is "If I don't get my way I'll piss all over what you hold dear."

Shane Helms is a talented asshole. If he would have kept his cool I could have seen him sign back on with WWE before Mania. His Hurricane gimmick could have been just what WWE needs with their lack of healthy faces.

Val Venis isn't looking too hot himself, by sinking down to their level, however I tend to have more respect for the man that jumps into a fight/argument when outnumbered. I wish he would clean up his language and sound a little more articulate.

Adam Evans is a no talented nobody who wrestlers in back yards (when he's lucky), and thus will defend people who wrestled in back yards. He also thinks that Mick Foley is an aerial acrobat for jumping off of his roof, and Sick Nick Mondo is a technical genius.

Robodiv 01-13-2011 02:00 PM

Wonder if he'll get released for this haha.

Waylander 01-13-2011 02:06 PM

I just gained a whole lot more respect for Val.

Robodiv 01-13-2011 02:08 PM

I can just picture it if Val Venis was Scottish.

"Matt, your a wee dick, your brothers a wee dick, and you pal is a wee poof!"

parkmania 01-13-2011 02:12 PM

When did Morley get re-hired by WWE? Last I had heard was that after he left TNA he was working with AAA or someone in Mexico.

owenbrown 01-13-2011 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FourFifty (Post 3392305)
Adam Evans is a no talented nobody who wrestlers in back yards (when he's lucky), and thus will defend people who wrestled in back yards. He also thinks that Mick Foley is an aerial acrobat for jumping off of his roof, and Sick Nick Mondo is a technical genius.

Adam Evans and Nick Mondo probably both work at the same last Blockbuster Video that hasn't been shut down due to bankruptcy(if that is possible).

Dark-Slicer Diago 01-13-2011 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parkmania (Post 3392341)
When did Morley get re-hired by WWE? Last I had heard was that after he left TNA he was working with AAA or someone in Mexico.

I think it was sometime in October in a Producer role or something.

jskinnyg 01-13-2011 02:44 PM

Love this guy... Trash talking over the internet, not so much... But at least he is geting out there what a LOT of us have been saying and thinking for a LOOOONG time...

JimmyMess 01-13-2011 03:19 PM

I actually am now more interested in knowing who the fuck Adam Evans is. Without looking it up... his name sounds like he's the little kid with the glasses who gets picked last in dodgeball.

MIZantine Empire 01-13-2011 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheAdamEvansFan (Post 3392194)

It's just like when Test would rant about WWE and it's PG rating. He couldn't spell worth shit.

hard to use spell check when you are dead...just sayin

Not Booked 01-13-2011 03:30 PM

The Hardy's were awesome during the attitude era. For years they routinely stole the show on raw (and superstars). They brought back classic tag team wrestling full of coordination and double-teams, with a modern twist and moves unseen in mainstream wrestling.

Matt was clearly the one calling the matches and putting things together. He took just as many bumps as jeff but they weren't the big spots so jeff overshadows him and people forget what matt did.

Val Venis was a great wrestler with a controversial gimmick that was over - though not even close to the way the hardy's and later jeff were over.

Val never really made it and Matt and Jeff never lived up to their potential after the split. Matt's an internet crybaby and Jeff's a drug addict.

If you think Val's bitter, incoherent ranting is something cool I'm not sure it's a great reflection on you as a person. The whole thing is pretty sad really.

Damian Rey 01-13-2011 03:30 PM

I agree with some things that Venis says. Matt Hardy does lack charisma. Honestly, he's rather bland image wise. But I do think that, when in shape and healthy, he is a solid hand.

Jeff on the other hand, is very charismatic, but doesn't, to me, have the same ring skills as his brother. They kind of balance each other out.

Shane Helms? Meh. Solid worker, but nothing special. Same with Moore.

Morely's also right in saying that neither Hardy's really paid any dues, and that Jeff jumping off of shit is what got them over.

Damian Rey 01-13-2011 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Not Booked (Post 3392434)
The Hardy's were awesome during the attitude era. For years they routinely stole the show on raw (and superstars). They brought back classic tag team wrestling full of coordination and double-teams, with a modern twist and moves unseen in mainstream wrestling.

Matt was clearly the one calling the matches and putting things together. He took just as many bumps as jeff but they weren't the big spots so jeff overshadows him and people forget what matt did.

Val Venis was a great wrestler with a controversial gimmick that was over - though not even close to the way the hardy's and later jeff were over.

Val never really made it and Matt and Jeff never lived up to their potential after the split. Matt's an internet crybaby and Jeff's a drug addict.

If you think Val's bitter, incoherent ranting is something cool I'm not sure it's a great reflection on you as a person. The whole thing is pretty sad really.

Jeff got to the main event eventually in WWE. It was Matt that never really hit a peak despite there being several oppurtunities.

I don't think Val is all that bitter. I think he sounds more pissed off and annoyed about how the Hardy's go about their business and how they are basically marks for themselves while Venus accepted role after role without so much as a peep.

Xero 01-13-2011 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Not Booked (Post 3392434)
The Hardy's were awesome during the attitude era. For years they routinely stole the show on raw (and superstars). They brought back classic tag team wrestling full of coordination and double-teams, with a modern twist and moves unseen in mainstream wrestling.

Matt was clearly the one calling the matches and putting things together. He took just as many bumps as jeff but they weren't the big spots so jeff overshadows him and people forget what matt did.

Val Venis was a great wrestler with a controversial gimmick that was over - though not even close to the way the hardy's and later jeff were over.

Val never really made it and Matt and Jeff never lived up to their potential after the split. Matt's an internet crybaby and Jeff's a drug addict.

If you think Val's bitter, incoherent ranting is something cool I'm not sure it's a great reflection on you as a person. The whole thing is pretty sad really.

Jeff was always a drug addict.

SlickyTrickyDamon 01-13-2011 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3392442)
Jeff was always a drug addict.

Getting that piece of information wrong is why he's never booked.

Xero 01-13-2011 03:41 PM

He's like Dennis Stamp without the trampoline.

CSL 01-13-2011 03:49 PM

Whether he thinks he's working people or shooting, this is pretty pathetic.

TheAdamEvansFan 01-13-2011 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyMess (Post 3392421)
I actually am now more interested in knowing who the fuck Adam Evans is. Without looking it up... his name sounds like he's the little kid with the glasses who gets picked last in dodgeball.

--

Adam Evans is a legend who took nothing from noone.

Growing up in a small town of 300, he excelled against the *farming community stereotype* and broke free.

As a child, he was always the tallest, strongest, most gifted individual in the class of 19. At recess, he would tower over the bullies and put them in their rightful place. He once saved a girl from falling off the monkey bars.

His room was filled with Hulk Hogan and Randy Savage posters, along with a poster of Xero.

He was always told that if you want to be someone, get a job at a factory.

He wrestled with the likes of CM Spunk, and made himself known throughout the Midwest.

He's wrestled on Raw, ECW, and Smackdown along with many independent wrestling companies.

He's currently in Florida Championship Wrestling, waiting to become the next WINNER of Tough Enough.

Stay still my viewers, get ready to witness the NEW BREED.

ooTin 01-13-2011 05:18 PM

I agree with every word that the big Valboski said... it takes 0 talent to jump off a ladder on to another ladder... period.

BollywoodSingh 01-13-2011 05:51 PM

If Val Venis thinks he has more talent than Matt or Jeff Hardy (especially 1999 Jeff Hardy), then he is mistaken.

Mooияakeя™ 01-13-2011 06:02 PM

I don't see how he could get released. He's dissing the competition.

Nicky Fives 01-13-2011 06:08 PM

100% with Val..... although of the 4 guys he mentioned, I actually like Shane Helms.....

Vastardikai 01-13-2011 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BollywoodSingh (Post 3392604)
If Val Venis thinks he has more talent than Matt or Jeff Hardy (especially 1999 Jeff Hardy), then he is mistaken.

I can. Val Venis could actually, you know, WORK. Matt was a decent worker. But Val was a good worker in a bad gimmick.

weather vane 01-13-2011 08:11 PM

hahaha go get circumcised

Anybody Thrilla 01-13-2011 09:26 PM

Calling all Hardy fans gay. Val sounds like he could post here.

Shadrick 01-13-2011 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 3392808)
Calling all Hardy fans gay. Val sounds like he could post here.

Oh but he does....

*rips off mask*


Helllllloooooooooo Laddddiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeesssssss.

Theo Dious 01-13-2011 11:40 PM

WoW. Val seems awfully butt-hurt about something.

The Hardys never paid their dues? So they didn't start out as absolute jobbers and work their way in from the bottom up? Christ, JBL has stated that they paid their dues, and that guy will shove a bar of soap up your ass if he thinks you didn't.

And yeah, Paul London might out-work Matt Hardy, until he saw something shiny or someone threw a dime bag at him.

Whatever else Matt Hardy is (at times he's been an emo crybaby, a jealous older brother, and an angry boyfriend) saying he has no talent and no charisma is idiotic. People ate up the Mattitude gimmick, they went nuts for Matt vs Edge, and Matt vs MVP was constantly trumpted as the best part of Smackdown at the time. Val sounds like he's trying to earn good-boy points to try to avoid getting fired again. And Val has loads of talent. If anything I think he has his panties in a twist because people take to Matt and Jeff more than to him.

Theo Dious 01-13-2011 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadrick (Post 3392951)
Oh but he does....

*rips off mask*


Helllllloooooooooo Laddddiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeesssssss.

We all know that there's only one poster here who could be Val in disguise.

Mr. Nerfect 01-14-2011 01:23 AM

Helllllllooooooooooo, TPWW! Heh, heh, heh...

I'm really surprised to see this video. For one, Sean Morley has always kept a quiet profile. I think someone hit the nail on the head when they say that Morley is annoyed to see The Hardys acting like marks for themselves, when Morley spent so much of his career as an enhancement guy, despite being able to out-work most of the roster.

I agree that Val could perhaps clean it up, and post in a more educated manor (the guy is not an idiot, I think he just buys into internet shorthand a little too much), and I hope there are no repercussions on Val for this. Did he just call Michael Hayes washed up and broken? I guess Morley must be a producer on Monday Night RAW...

I'm also surprised to hear Val say Paul London could work circles around Matt Hardy. It's true, but just so blunt. I don't agree that Matt and Jeff have ZERO talent. Matt could at least work a decent match, and had it in him to play at least one interesting character. But if you grant Val some hyperbole, then yes -- what he is saying is pretty much right. Jumping off one ladder into another ladder doesn't take talent, and that style of match is essentially what perpetuated The Hardys. I've been a mark for Matt in the past, but let's face it -- the two were essentially jobbers before the Terri Invitational Tournament.

Kane Knight 01-14-2011 02:02 AM

Gayest. Feud. Ever.

Haze 01-14-2011 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 3392808)
Calling all Hardy fans gay. Val sounds like he could post here.

Maybe he already does? :shifty:

CSL 01-14-2011 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 3393007)
I'm also surprised to hear Val say Paul London could work circles around Matt Hardy. It's true, but just so blunt. I don't agree that Matt and Jeff have ZERO talent. Matt could at least work a decent match, and had it in him to play at least one interesting character. But if you grant Val some hyperbole, then yes -- what he is saying is pretty much right. Jumping off one ladder into another ladder doesn't take talent, and that style of match is essentially what perpetuated The Hardys. I've been a mark for Matt in the past, but let's face it -- the two were essentially jobbers before the Terri Invitational Tournament.

I'm not seeing your point here. The Ringmaster was practically a jobber before he became Stone Cold. The Miz was Marty Jannetty before somebody gave him a microphone. Kane was a dentist before somebody gave him a mask.

Tazz Dan 01-14-2011 05:04 PM

I can't see why people would hate on Val for this. It's pretty ballsy taking people on via twitter when that's where they seem to live their lives. They don't seem to have any problems attacking anybody so if they can't handle a bit of the same medicine what does it really say about them?

CSL 01-14-2011 07:57 PM

Is that a serious post?

SlickyTrickyDamon 01-14-2011 08:01 PM

Has Val Venis ever responded to Missy Hyatt saying that he had a small dick when he fucked her?

I guess Kai En Tai really did choppy choppy his pee pee!

CSL 01-14-2011 08:09 PM

Can't be too harsh on Val there, fucking Missy Hyatt probably resembles a malnourished infant diving into a crater.

Jeritron 01-14-2011 09:07 PM

I would love to see the look on Noid's face when Morley puts London over

dronepool 01-14-2011 09:41 PM

I actually like both the Hardyz and Val... but Val sounds bitter. Maybe it's because the so called dink smoking washed up hack is getting a chance and doing shit while Val is sitting around and slinging insults on twitter and not getting calls for gigs...

Drakul 01-14-2011 09:49 PM

So much DINK in those tweets.

http://www.operatorchan.org/s/src/s17896_mr__dink.jpg

Fignuts 01-14-2011 10:16 PM

It would be good if it was just the video, and not 8545634673586346 tweets along with it. Guy sounds as obsessed as Helms.

Also lol if that is his actual voice, at all times. Cracking up thinking about him ordering at taco bell.

CSL 01-14-2011 10:26 PM

Didn't even notice the video. Just watched it. I was wondering what people were on about in terms of calling him 'bitter' but I see what you mean now. The guy is a fucking idiot. Banging on about 'real pro wrestling fans' in some attempt to appease the smarks. What a cunt.

CSL 01-14-2011 10:31 PM

Reading through this thread now as well, my god some of you are utterly clueless.

Mr. Nerfect 01-14-2011 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSL (Post 3393406)
I'm not seeing your point here. The Ringmaster was practically a jobber before he became Stone Cold. The Miz was Marty Jannetty before somebody gave him a microphone. Kane was a dentist before somebody gave him a mask.

You're right. You're not seeing my point.

Mr. Nerfect 01-14-2011 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dronepool (Post 3394114)
I actually like both the Hardyz and Val... but Val sounds bitter. Maybe it's because the so called dink smoking washed up hack is getting a chance and doing shit while Val is sitting around and slinging insults on twitter and not getting calls for gigs...

Val is employed by the WWE.

The Show Off 01-14-2011 11:07 PM

This is just silliness that I don't get too bothered by. I liked Val Venis thought he never quite got as far as he could have, but I remember hearing somewhere that he was the type of guy that would never activly politic for storylines so he's left with the legacy that he has which is good better than 99% of people that have aspirations of being a wrestler.

As for Jeff Hardy and Matt Hardy... Well I've never been a big fan of Jeff but I've always been a mark for Matt. I've said it before and I'll say it again Matt Hardy could have been (still could but its doubtful) a huge star. He has a natural chrisma about him and he can work a good match technically, high flying wise, and psycologically. He has a great mind for the buisness and is a self promoter (all the great wrestlers are). All he needed was that one creative mind to really run with him, and he never had it. He's basically gotten himself over (both as a heel and a face) on a number of occasions but the WWE never advanced him.

Did he whine and complain about being "held back." Yeah. Was that kind of a bitch move? Yeah. But I can't really blame him. It must be frustrating to be so close to your childhood dream but have it taken away from you time after time whereas your brother that has a passing interest in the buisness achieves it's ultimate reward and then desides to leave beacuse he's "burned out." Does this justify his rants and twitters and youtube videos? No. But it explains it.

I wish Matt Hardy well in TNA. At least he's in the promotion he'll be given the chance to be a main eventer though if Matt Hardy were truly honest he'd admit that winning the TNA Championship is a bronze medal at best when compaired to WWE gold.

Mr. Nerfect 01-14-2011 11:13 PM

Good post, Show Off. Matt Hardy essentially got his brother to do really stupid shit to get them over, and Matt got a lot of longetivity out of it, but never got as over as his crazy brother did. It's a bit sad, but that's the way they rolled the dice.

Theo Dious 01-14-2011 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Show Off
All he needed was that one creative mind to really run with him, and he never had it.

The feud with MVP would have taken him somewhere big if not for his damn appendix. :mad:

CSL 01-14-2011 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 3394163)
You're right. You're not seeing my point.

Don't even know how to respond to this. I assume you think your post had some variety of grand obvious point so you aren't going to explain what you meant?

The Show Off 01-14-2011 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tedious (Post 3394176)
The feud with MVP would have taken him somewhere big if not for his damn appendix. :mad:

That did suck, it was a great feud. However, I think that feud being delayed hurt MVP more than it hurt Hardy. I think if the if Hardy were to have taken the US title off him at the logical time of the storyline (ie Hardy's appendix didn't happen) I think MVP would have been pushed as a main event level heel.

God I can't believe how stupid the WWE is for not running with MVP...

I guess you can insert many names at the end of that sentence actually the main one being CHRISTIAN!

Sorry. The lack of a main event run of Christian in the WWE is a crime against logic.

Mr. Nerfect 01-15-2011 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by CSL (Post 3394184)
Don't even know how to respond to this. I assume you think your post had some variety of grand obvious point so you aren't going to explain what you meant?

Bingo.

Mr. Nerfect 01-15-2011 01:58 AM

A lot of Matt Hardy's potential main event runs were cut short. Mattitude could have taken him higher; his return in 2005 should have taken him higher; his feud with MVP could have taken him higher; he could have received a better push when Jeff left (it would have been natural for Matt to try and avenge his brother). But Matt doesn't know the right way to go about things. Plus, he didn't take the time he needed from his surgeries and stuff to really stay in shape.

Still, the more time that passes, and it just becomes clearer and clearer Matt Hardy is a complete mark for himself. Hardy really could have helped usher in a wave of new talent, but instead he wants to bitch about how he should be getting pushed to the top. Yeah, there may be a point in there, but guys like Christian and such go to work and do their job, and hopefully it pays off for them in time.

CSL 01-15-2011 02:19 AM

lol bless you

Mr. Nerfect 01-15-2011 02:27 AM

And bless you, sir.

Kane Knight 01-15-2011 02:50 AM

What a bunch of dink smokers.

Mr. Nerfect 01-15-2011 05:39 AM

Get off the fucking trampoline, KK.

Shadrick 01-15-2011 07:59 AM

Hehehe...you know SOMETHIN LADIESS...

THE BIG VALBOWSKI IS A LOT LIKE A RUBIX CUUUUUBE.

HEHEHEHE.....YOU KNOW.....





THE MORE YOU PLAY WITH IT.....MMMMM...THE HARDER IT GETS...HEHEHEHE. *GYRATES*

Kane Knight 01-15-2011 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 3394385)
Get off the fucking trampoline, KK.

spoken like a true dink smoker lolol

Gass 01-15-2011 08:59 AM

to moore's credit, I don't think he's really participating in this bitch fest. No need to drag him into it.

Mr. Nerfect 01-15-2011 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 3394419)
spoken like a true dink smoker lolol

i dink you need evidance to make this claims. lol

Mr. Nerfect 01-15-2011 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Gass (Post 3394432)
to moore's credit, I don't think he's really participating in this bitch fest. No need to drag him into it.

Shannon Moore would abbreviate everything, so TGHDUT.

Wasn't Joey Mercury an OMEGA guy? He's still under WWE contract, and he's a damn good worker and talker. Actually, he's probably the best of the OMEGA lot.

dronepool 01-15-2011 04:35 PM

Just saw Matt's new video and if he's not lying, I'll take his his side of this.

Xero 01-15-2011 04:36 PM

Yeah, agreed.

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Fignuts 01-15-2011 05:22 PM

I'm not taking any side, because I think they are all morons.

Kane Knight 01-15-2011 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 3394929)
I'm not taking any side, because I think they are all morons.

I think you mean dink smoker lololol

Grablot 01-15-2011 06:20 PM

Val must be pissed off that Mat had a better career than he ever did.

Shadrick 01-15-2011 09:44 PM

Define "better career"

Xero 01-15-2011 10:07 PM

Matt was one of the Hardy Boyz, and while the lesser cared about brother, they were involved in some of the most memorable matches of all time.

Val Venis got his dick chopped off.

Advantage: Matt

blake639raw 01-15-2011 10:16 PM

At one time, I believed Matt Hardy was something special. I honestly believed he has just burned out. If he was smart, he would have just taken a few years off from WWE and recharged his batteries. In a few years time, he could come back and be alot fresher. I still believe he has talent, even if he acts like a complete tool most of the time.

FourFifty 01-15-2011 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3395211)
Matt was one of the Hardy Boyz, and while the lesser cared about brother, they were involved in some of the most memorable matches of all time.

Val Venis got his dick chopped off.

Advantage: Matt

Xero.... James.... you have been a friend and a confidant. I have sought your confidence as it pertains to tipsters and my personal life. However, I have to admittedly disagree. While Matt may have had more high profile matches than Sean Morley, Sean has a lower chance of being wheel chair before he's 50.
Matt Hardy is a whiny little bitch. Sean gave him a chance to be relevant on the indy scene again, and Matt Hardy pissed all over it much like he pissed all over WWE by showing Rey without his mask on.

Shadrick 01-15-2011 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3395211)
Matt was one of the Hardy Boyz, and while the lesser cared about brother, they were involved in some of the most memorable matches of all time.

Val Venis got his dick chopped off.

Advantage: Matt

This may just be me, but every memorable part of every match always had Jeff doing something with a little assistance from Matt, or Jeff by himself. I can't remember one spot in one of those memorable matches that it was just Matt doing some shit that made you say "Man, this guys talented"

Damian Rey 01-15-2011 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by blake639raw (Post 3395217)
At one time, I believed Matt Hardy was something special. I honestly believed he has just burned out. If he was smart, he would have just taken a few years off from WWE and recharged his batteries. In a few years time, he could come back and be alot fresher. I still believe he has talent, even if he acts like a complete tool most of the time.

This is actually what I was really hoping he'd do. But it was inevitable that he'd join TNA. With Jeff at the top of the company, it's only smart for him to sign and ride the coattails and possibly get that one main event push he's sought after for so long.

I think he is his own worst enemy. The way he goes about things are ridiculous. He acts like a spoiled child. Getting into internet feuds, making mindless videos of yourself and posting them on youtube, bragging about how many twitter followers you have, really, who gives a fuck? What does it have to do with grand scheme of things concerning his career? Nothing.

The internet can be a very useful, powerful tool, but I think Matt goes about using it in the wrong ways.

Mr. Nerfect 01-16-2011 12:18 AM

I'm not sure if I believe Matt Hardy's video. Sean Morley works for the WWE. Granted, the WWE has let some guys under contract work indy shows in the past, but I really don't think the WWE would let a TNA guy feud with one of their employees. I'd like to see some evidence provided by Hardy.

Sean Morley should have just been the better man and left Hardy to destroy himself.


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