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Kris P Lettus 02-20-2011 04:02 PM

UFC 127
 
Penn vs Fitch

The greatness that is Penns takedown defense will over come the powerful wrestling of Fitch.. It will be a grind it out type fight with Penn getting the decision..

Really happy to see Rivera and Sotiropolous getting a nice push.. Too bad Condit got hurt cause him vs lytle would have been amazing..

Jura 02-20-2011 04:12 PM


Loose Cannon 02-20-2011 04:13 PM

not a big fan of Fitch at all.

The Mask 02-20-2011 04:14 PM

hope penn wins just because i suppose fitch gets a title shot if he wins. unless there's a stipulation to say fitch has to actually finish a fight to get the shot. i could go for that.

MoFo 02-20-2011 05:52 PM

Bisping one step closer to Anderson after this one. lol.

IC Champion 02-20-2011 06:01 PM

Jon Fitch couldn't finish a happy meal.

Next Big Thing 02-20-2011 06:50 PM

Fitch v. Penn is a toss up for me.

I think Bisping is going to beat Rivera via decision even though I like Jorge a lot and he's overcome a lot of shit these past few years.

Definitely cheering for Sotiropolous. If anyone deserves a shot at the 155 pound belt outside of Maynard and Pettis it's him.

Krimzon7 02-22-2011 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Instant Classic (Post 3439253)
Jon Fitch couldn't finish a happy meal.


MAYBE YOUR BEST CONTRIBUTION TO THE MMA FORUM! BRAVO SIR, BRA FUCKING VO:rofl:

IC Champion 02-22-2011 09:55 PM

I've contributed at other times, though I would say that was rather good, if I were to pat myself on the back.

Ol Dirty Dastard 02-24-2011 03:00 PM

Fitch by decision

Ol Dirty Dastard 02-24-2011 03:00 PM

SUPER pulling Rivera, but Bisping will probably be too much.

IC Champion 02-24-2011 03:02 PM

Michael Bisping told me that Michael Bisping was going to win.

MoFo 02-24-2011 03:14 PM

Rivera looked like a massive pussy at teh press conference.

Hands in his pockets and looked scared as fuck.

CSL 02-26-2011 11:03 PM

lol Bisping's list of reasons why he'll win during the talking head thing at the start of the PPV

CSL 02-26-2011 11:06 PM

lol x20 Bisping during the weigh-in

MoFo 02-26-2011 11:24 PM

Ross Pearson & Mark Hunt won on the prelims....good fucking stuff so far.

CSL 02-27-2011 12:43 AM

Ahhhhh what's he done

CSL 02-27-2011 12:45 AM

Fair play to Rivera for carrying on, he could easily have stayed down.

owenbrown 02-27-2011 12:45 AM

damn illegal knee by Bisping

MoFo 02-27-2011 12:47 AM

rofl Bisping giving Rivera's corner the middle finger while hes down

owenbrown 02-27-2011 12:49 AM

I think Rivera is pissed off now

owenbrown 02-27-2011 12:50 AM

oops nevermind.... Bisping might win this

CSL 02-27-2011 12:50 AM

I think Rivera is dead now

MoFo 02-27-2011 12:51 AM

and ITS ALL OVER

CSL 02-27-2011 12:54 AM

Dithie Rarthcul!

Nark Order 02-27-2011 12:54 AM

Fuck Bisping

CSL 02-27-2011 12:55 AM

I was waiting for the first American to come in here and start crying about him.

Nark Order 02-27-2011 12:59 AM

I don't hate him because he's British. I hate him because he's a shithead.

owenbrown 02-27-2011 01:07 AM

lol did I just hear brief small cheers for Herb Dean?

MoFo 02-27-2011 01:09 AM

BJ looks like he did like 4 lines of coke before this fight

Nark Order 02-27-2011 01:22 AM

Man, Jon Fitch is so incredibly boring as a fighter.

VSG 02-27-2011 01:24 AM

So much for Penn.

Nark Order 02-27-2011 01:27 AM

God, I hope Fitch NEVER wins the belt.

Nark Order 02-27-2011 01:28 AM

LOL DRAW!!

VSG 02-27-2011 01:28 AM

WTF!!!

Nark Order 02-27-2011 01:29 AM

I can definitely see it, but that's pretty nutty.

owenbrown 02-27-2011 01:29 AM

LOL REALLY?!

VSG 02-27-2011 01:33 AM

This wouldn't have happened under a Cecil Peoples moderation :nono:

http://www.bullshido.net/images/news...les-figure.jpg

Ol Dirty Dastard 02-27-2011 02:16 AM

lol it could feasibly be called a draw, but it'd be so much better if the judges were allowed to judge the fight as a whole.

The Mask 02-27-2011 02:17 AM

tbf i thought that last round could have been a 10-8

Ol Dirty Dastard 02-27-2011 02:25 AM

if u give the 1st 2 to Penn which u cud, it'd still be a draw if 3 was 10-8 Fitch.

Ol Dirty Dastard 02-27-2011 02:30 AM

Also, if u give the first round to Penn, have round 2 as 10-10, and round 3 as 10-9 Fitch, you also have a draw.

It's kind of funny, the fight was so close for the first 2 rounds, you could make an argument for 30-27 fitch or 30-26 Fitch because of how he blew BJ out in the last round.

Or you could say BJ won 29-28, given that he feasibly won rounds 1 and 2, and didnt get rocked or was in no danger of being finished in the third. Obviously, that wouldn't have seemed right, but the judging in mma is so damned weird.

A fight with guys like these either needs to be 5 rounds or judged on a whole. Round-by-round doesn't do them justice.

Ol Dirty Dastard 02-27-2011 02:31 AM

For the record, I think Fitch had the better showing of the two, and under PRIDE judging, won the fight. But the round by round basis fucked him over.

MoFo 02-27-2011 03:03 AM

This is good.

They can rematch for the title after GSP goes up.

Krimzon7 02-27-2011 03:17 AM

Mofo, there's one problem with your logic....





NOBODY WANTS TO SEE THIS FIGHT EVER AGAIN. I DIDN'T WANNA SEE IT IN THE FIRST PLACE.

MoFo 02-27-2011 03:54 AM

Fitch outstruck Penn 134-0 in the last round, btw

Ol Dirty Dastard 02-27-2011 12:05 PM

It was a pretty good fight Krimzon, don't really know what ur moaning about.

IC Champion 02-27-2011 01:21 PM

I get the Bisping hate, but what I don't get is how guys like Nick Diaz do the same shit and aren't hated for it.

Nark Order 02-27-2011 01:55 PM

Who likes Nick Diaz? I was certain that he was universally known as a huge asshole/dickhead.

Nark Order 02-27-2011 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gorgeous Dale Newstead (Post 3446274)
It was a pretty good fight Krimzon, don't really know what ur moaning about.

Probably because Jon Fitch is the most boring fighter on the face of the planet.

IC Champion 02-27-2011 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 3446349)
Who likes Nick Diaz? I was certain that he was universally known as a huge asshole/dickhead.

Oh and he is. He's just admired for his cult like status he's obtained for being such a asshole/dickhead.

Ol Dirty Dastard 02-27-2011 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 3446350)
Probably because Jon Fitch is the most boring fighter on the face of the planet.

It wasn't a bad fight though. Back and forth for the first two rounds, and in the third round Fitch beat the hell out of Penn. It wasn't like he was lay n praying, he beat the absolute shit out of Penn. Not the MOST enthralling round I've seen, but it was something.

The Mask 02-27-2011 05:33 PM

i thought it was a good fight between two pretty evenly matched fighters, which is unusual for mma.

IC Champion 02-27-2011 06:49 PM

I thought it was a pretty good fight. Penn showed some game planning for once, and won the first 2 rounds IMO, but I could see the third being a 10-8 rounf for Fitch. BJ needs some size and cardio.

The Mask 02-27-2011 07:01 PM

i think he should just go back down to 155. i reckon if he keeps training with hughes he could be champion again. he'd be far more dangerous to edgar fighting him on the ground.

IC Champion 02-27-2011 07:26 PM

Training doesn't really interest Penn. If it did he would have kept Marv Marinovich as his strength and conditioning coach.

The Mask 02-27-2011 07:41 PM

i dunno, sparring/technique training is far less mentally draining than endurance type strength and conditioning.

IC Champion 02-27-2011 07:49 PM

It wasn't for lack of sparring or technique that Penn loses, and drew with Fitch. He refused to work hard, and train to the level that you're average MMA fighter of today does, nevermind what it takes to be champion. Penn can still be a champion one day, everything is still there, it's about how hard he wants to work for it.

Penn is lazy and would rather go as far as his talent an ability take him, and when he falls short make excuses. Atleast last night he didn't do the latter.

Krimzon7 02-27-2011 08:24 PM

[quote=Gorgeous Dale Newstead;3446496]It wasn't a bad fight though. Back and forth for the first two rounds, and in the third round Fitch beat the hell out of Penn. It wasn't like he was lay n praying, he beat the absolute shit out of Penn. Not the MOST enthralling round I've seen, but it was something.[/quote

YOU TELL ME ANOTHER FIGHTER WHO WILL LAND 134 STRIKES AND NOT KO THAT DUDE

MoFo 02-27-2011 08:59 PM

Quote:

from @danawhite: Fitch is saying give me my respect. He just fought a 155-pound guy to a draw and lost the first two rounds IMO. #UFC
rof Dana hates him

IC Champion 02-27-2011 10:09 PM

[QUOTE=Krimzon7;3446637]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gorgeous Dale Newstead (Post 3446496)
It wasn't a bad fight though. Back and forth for the first two rounds, and in the third round Fitch beat the hell out of Penn. It wasn't like he was lay n praying, he beat the absolute shit out of Penn. Not the MOST enthralling round I've seen, but it was something.[/quote

YOU TELL ME ANOTHER FIGHTER WHO WILL LAND 134 STRIKES AND NOT KO THAT DUDE

To be fair his intent was really to stop the fight, but more to land points and keep working to avoid being stood up. But he's still boring as fuck.

Impact! 02-28-2011 10:03 AM

Fucking great show. The crowd was amazing, and it's pretty funny that the laughing could actually be heard on PPV.

The Mask 03-01-2011 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Instant Classic (Post 3446606)
It wasn't for lack of sparring or technique that Penn loses, and drew with Fitch. He refused to work hard, and train to the level that you're average MMA fighter of today does, nevermind what it takes to be champion. Penn can still be a champion one day, everything is still there, it's about how hard he wants to work for it.

Penn is lazy and would rather go as far as his talent an ability take him, and when he falls short make excuses. Atleast last night he didn't do the latter.

i was only speaking about what 'interests' penn, as you say. i agree he needs to put more in, but i think it's great he's working with hughes because if he concentrated more on being a ground fighter than a counter puncher or whatever he could really fuck people up. still reckon he belongs are 155 though. or even 145, he was hardly ripped as a lightweight.

Next Big Thing 03-01-2011 06:21 PM

BJ doesn't like cutting the weight though, but when he's motivated he's one of the best.

The Mask 03-01-2011 06:27 PM

true. plus i think the speed of 145 would be far too much for him.


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