Alex Riley is the worst wrestler today...
 

...according to Wolfpack423.

I, on the other hand, am of a very different opinion. I feel that Alex Riley has all of the tools to become a major player in WWE one day, and I was just completely caught off guard by that quote. I wanted to wait for Wolfpack423 to sign on to explain himself, but I figured he'll see this eventually. Do any of you agree that Alex Riley is the worst wrestler today? I'd really like to know how someone comes to that conclusion.

He was brilliant on NXT, and his work as the Miz's sidekick was awesome. I wish I could remember when that promo was after he got in trouble with alcohol. He lit the mic on fire. He's completely passable in-ring, too.

JOHN CENA IS DA WORST TODAY! BUT ALEX RILEY SUX TOO BECAUSE MIZ DOESNT NEED A NERD LIEK HIM WITH HIM! /iwc

Yea, Alex Riley is far from the worst wrestler today. I can honestly think of at least 5-10 guys off the top of my head who are way worse than Riley. Riley is quite entertaining, but I just want him to stop being a lackey and start being his own man. Granted working with/for The Miz is ultimately going to give him a much better rub in the long run.

I'll agree just for the hell of it.

My 13 year old cousin is a total mark, but for some reason he loves The Miz and Alex Riley. He was a Cena fan a couple years ago, but now Orton and Miz are his favorites. Dunno why I felt compelled to tell you that, but here we are.

Can you explain yourself just for the hell of it?

I second this Sixx. Please explain your logic?

Nope, I've never seen this guy wrestling.

I just feel bad for Wolfpack234, because you're all a bunch of bullies.

I'm not bullying him. Just asking him to explain his position. I'll even give him a nice green dot should he do so.

I just checked this guy out.

Looks like a high school jock. Cool.

I got dibs on Wolfpack234's lunch money.

To add some substance to this thread, if you don't think Alex Riley is the worst wrestler today, who do you think is?

And it's 423, guys. Not 234.

but yeah, Alex Riley has all the tools to be successful. Love his "upside"

See?

This will probably end with everyone here giving Wolfpack a wedgie.

One day he'll come back and just shoot all of you.

Khali comes to mind. IF you consider him a wrestler.

Steiner is pretty God awful. Henry isn't that far behind him. Otunga is also pretty terrible.

Oh shit.

About which one?

Riley is incredibly entertaining. Would love to see him become the next wrestler-turned-announcer.

Calling Alex Riley the worst wrestler today when The Great Khali is still around has to be some sort of crime.....

I hate people that wear white boots. But he is far from bad.

Mason Ryan and Zeke are way worse.

Unco-ordinated (sp?) pieces of shit who can't throw a punch without messing it up terribly.

Also Wade Barrett.

Alex Riley is fucking awesome and sexy, hes gonna be huge

Riley has potential that's for sure.

Though every time I see him I think of him somehow delivering a spinebuster to Percy Watson by mistake at the end of NXT Season 2. :lol:

(For those who don't know of what I speak, at the end, all the eliminated rookies came in to beat up Kaval and the Pros in Nexus-style. Riley spinebustered Percy Watson by mistake in the big brawl)

Don't test me here, fella

Hey Lock Jaw, you ever think maybe he gave Percy Watson a spinebuster just because he was annoying?

Oh hell. I haven't gotten my head around that DVLH's name yet :-\

Honestly he's slipped under my attention span a bit but I'm impressed with his "acting" and his role. He is a big part of the Miz. The part where he went out and got his ass kicked by Cena, you could tell Miz was like "Man."

Then when he got Miz that victory to "make it up to him," it was pretty solid. It further opens up the story of him breaking out. The question is what does he do when he's ready to break out from being a sidekick? I guess we'll see.

I just don't understand why everyone likes him all of a sudden. The only people from NXT season 2 I liked were Kaval and Joe Hennig. Both have talent and can put on great matches. Hennig doesn't get nearly the amount of respect he deserves. Instead he has to pal around with two guys like Otunga and Ryan who really don't know what they are doing. In terms of Zeke, I actually like him and don't really think hes a clod. Khali never really wrestles anymore and I've always liked him anyway. Hes one of those guilty pleasure wrestlers. Everyone has one of them. Alex Riley's mic skills are excruciating to listen to. The best was when he told Orton things are about to go ari for you. Orton was confused as to what he was talking about. Don't forget how he butchered his own joke. None of his matches on NXT were impressive. I guess they put Riley with Miz so he can learn from him on how to become a successful superstar, but that's not working. Miz has come a long way since hoorah and has had some good matches. Riley never really performs moves correctly and he just makes a fool out of himself every time hes in the ring. By the way, I said Murphy is the worst wrestler today so...I don't know why this topic was started. I guess I'm not allowed to have an opinion. I can't stand Riley and most likely never will.

Riley for me was clearly the best all around guy on NXT the only reason he didn't win I think cuz of the stupid mark vote factor that and a heel won it the previous year so they wanted to balance it out.

Nowhere near the worst. The only negative I see is that he is rather plain. I think that they should have ran with the drinking incident, at least that would have given him some character (the promo he gave was awesome).

I will be interested to see what he does and what gimmick they give him after his run with the Miz. I guess the only other thing that could be thought of as a negative is that he is rather old to be getting going, I think he is in his mid-thirties and has yet to really develop a character. That could prove to be an issue. Other than that the guy is a great seller, solid on the mic, solid in the ring.

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One of my favourite spots of the year.

I thought that maybe he did it because he confused Percy with MVP 'cause all "those people" look alike to Alex Riley.

Alex Riley just turned 30 and has sex appeal coming out his nostrils.

Even if Riley sucked in the ring (which he so does not), you can learn to be a better wrestler.

What you cannot learn is charisma and swagger. Riley has both of those in bunches. He's gonna be the shiznit.

You said Murphy, besides Alex Riley, was the worst wrestler today. I provided a link to your quote and everything.

Not a "fan" of the guy by any means but he's nowhere close to being the worst wrestler in the world today, tomorrow or yesterday. He's very much in the same mould as Miz, but he's better in the ring and if he works as hard he could be the man somewhere down the line.

Also throwing in 5 Cornette Faces for WolfpacNumbers regarding this statement.

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If they didnt have him paired up with the Miz, he'd be gone by now.

Christian is much worse than Riley.

Some people used to think that about the Miz when he was paired with John Morrison.

<font color=goldenrod>Alex Riley should win the first annual TPWW Award for Outstanding Achievement in the Field of Excellence.</font>

Go ahead and set that up...then call CSL's phone with the results, since apparently you aren't allowed to use the internet.

Someone i'd like to see get the shit beat out of them is Santino.

He's got a decent look. The only promo of his that stands out in my mind was when he said something about John Cena having the same first name as a toilet... and that only stood out because it was more awful than his usual promos.

As for his in ring work, he's done nothing more than have bland matches on NXT. It's weird how easy people will jump on "good wrestler" bandwagons out of nowhere. I'm not saying he's bad... he just hasn't shown anything. Whatsoever. I think people just want someone to be a superstar so badly that they'll start blowing anyone who has a decent look that isn't getting a push.

So I guess that's TWO votes for worst today.

Alex Riley is a wonderful person.

Guaranteed, if he ever gets sent to Smackdown where he should be since he was drafted there, give him 2 months and he'll be packing his bags for developmental again.

And honestly a couple years ago with Miz/Morrison, if you had said "Miz will be a World Champion for 5 months, headlining wrestlemania vs John Cena and win" I think you probably would have been committed to an insane asylum on the spot.

Taking a dropkick from Ricardo "I speak better than Jesus" Rodriguez only improves Riley's stock.

Riley = Instant wood 4 supremo

I'm not quite sure if you're being serious or not, but Christian is one of the top five wrestlers in the business today. The top five in terms of in ring talent for me currently are:
1. Kurt Angle
2. Christian
3. AJ Styles
4. Bryan Danielson
5. Rey Mysterio

In terms of in ring matches, I consider these the top five, but I like alot of others. John Cena is my favorite guy in the industry. He works his ass off, constantly has good to great matches since being in the title picture, has excellent charisma and while his promos are not for everyone I have no problem for them. When he is conducting a serious promo they are some of the best I've heard. The backstage ones he does are usually good. He's one of the nicest people ever. Being a top guy hasn't turned him into an arrogant jerk. I also consider Randy Orton to be a great wrestler who has had his share of excellent matches as well.

Top 5 worst:
1. Murphy
2. Alex Riley
3. Vladimir Kozlov
4. David Otunga
5. Crimson

I'm not gonna lie, maybe it's because it was in a TNA topic, but I thought he said Alex Shelley was the worst wrestler next to Murphy. I was a little shocked by that. Then I realized he had spoiled Impact....and I barely stifled a Gohan-esque rant on him.

That was my whole point, sir. Your original comment was silly for that very reason.

I know it's all a matter of opinion, but I just can't wrap my head around ranking Riley so low in the wrestling world. His NXT matches were good in my eyes...better than Percy Watson, Eli Cottonwood, Lucky Cannon and Titus O'Neil on that season of NXT alone. His promos blew ALL of those guys out of the water, and he's basically just been schooling it since The Miz's sidekick ever since. That just doesn't seem like enough to consider him one of the bottom two wrestlers in the world today, but I guess if you like Khali, you're coming from a completely different world than I am.

Obviously, I exaggerated a little. I should have also speceifed "isn't a giant".

And if you're saying Alex Riley has charisma and mic skills, then that definitely helps prove my point that people's standards are ridiculously low right now and they NEED someone to fit that mold.

Well, you said Riley hasn't shown anything, so he then provided you with a list of things that he HAS shown.

Don't turn your back on the Wolfpac423

I just don't get it because the other thread had absolutely NOTHING to do with Alex Riley. At all. It was about TNA's greatest matches. Then Wolfpack started talking about shitty TNA guys (still not pertinent to the thread, but at least the right organization) and decided to call out Alex fucking Riley as the worst in the business out of thin air. Outrageous, if you ask me.

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"Zis #1-wwf-fan he is outrageoussss"

lol. Wait... "Whatever it is doesn't appear to be what WWE look for?" Umm... I don't know if you've noticed but Alex Riley isn't exactly a huge star yet. Let's not deem him "what the WWE is looking for." So fair, the WWE seems to be leaning more toward my opinion.

He has shown more charisma and mic skills than the rest of the NXT guys. A group that produced some promos that are notoriously awful. lol. But I've seen the guy cut a promo. His promo on Raw was FINE. But it certainly didn't stand out. And I've seen him cut some pretty shitty promos.

I like the guy. Simply for the fact that I haven't seen anything to dislike him yet. But I think people are too high on him at the moment is all. I think people are trying to exaggerate his skills. I've seen the same with plenty of guys. But claiming he's such a "good wrestler" is crazy unless you've seen some indy stuff I haven't (Which is totally possible. I just think this should be brought to light. lol) He hasn't had a good, even decent match in WWE to showcase it but people are praising his wrestling skills. It doesn't take an insane amount of skill to work a 4 minute WWE style match at the moment.

... that is an eerie resemblance...

Okay, I feel like I need to clarify, I am not on that guy's side. My thoughts are totally separate. The Great Khali... come on...

You don't think it's more crazy to claim that he's the worst wrestler today?

That was mostly directed at Wolfpack because he himself mentioned Khali by name. I see what you're saying, and I know you're a different person.

I actually posted that before your reply... but yeah... I find him to be in the middle til proven otherwise.

Though I would enjoy seeing him come about and flourish on Smackdown because I feel he has the "superstar look". I just wanna see him prove something.

I think he has at least proven that he is not the worst wrestler today. Whether he'll ever become as big as Mo from Men on a Mission is anybody's guess.

I've been a big Riley fan since NXT. He was in some good matches there, mostly with Kaval.

Of all the horrible wrestlers in the E and TNA, some choose to hate a guy that actually has potential to be great?

Oh. Damn.

We are all missing the most important part of Wolfpack's post. He spoiled the Impact results for me. My week is ruined.

If you're confused Dave, Alex Riley will NOT be appearing on Impact this week.

Him being linked to the #1 heel in the company means absolutely nothing. Let's be real. Cena DESTROYED him on Raw. They didn't even give him a chance. He's been booked to be weak as hell. Wade Barrett was considered the top heel in the companylast summer. Who was linked with him? David Otunga... Michael McGillicutty... how much did it do for their careers?

Also, Santino got arrested. And then was the runner up in the Royal Rumble. And now is a jobber again. You're putting entirely too much into WWE's booking process. Whatever NXT guy in season 2 they viewed as the "most Miz-like" they would have done the exact same storyline. You can't honestly argue that point.

Do you happen to remember the very first appearance of Johnny Nitro? He was Bischoff's lackey, was a complete joke, and lost every match by a landslide. I remember specifically him getting squashed by Eugene. That same guy is now John Morrison.

Exactly!!!

Have you read the rest of my posts?

So now, we're supposed to assume that anyone who is "a complete joke, loses every match by a landslide" and is squashed by nobodys are supposed to be the next John Morrisons? (Ignoring the fact that John Morrison DID come along later and just assuming that everyone who does that WILL come along?) Apparently so. And that proves my point.

What? Nobody is assuming that about everybody. That is an absolutely ridiculous argument. I didn't say that nor did anybody else. We're saying that Riley has potential because we believe he does. I wouldn't say the same thing about Jackson Andrews, Mason Ryan, Joe Hennig, Otunga, etc because they aren't looking too sharp to me. Riley has a solid look, is comfortable on the mic (could use some more time), and comfortable in the ring as well. He's only going to improve also. I think he's got something, personally.

Stop making these wild sweeping generalizations.

Also because I would bang Riley and Morrison.

Not that Mason Ryan is ugly or anything. He's just... I dunno. Wouldn't be into it.

How about Ezekiel Jackson? Everyone that he does, he dominates them.

I actually said that I was making no assumptions. Just saying that AT THIS POINT he hasn't shown anything. You threw in the fact that someone who was failing miserably ended up doing really well. In a discussion about why someone I don't see anything about should succeed... that sounds like ASSUMING to me.

You made a statement about how the WWE is doing nothing with him right now. I gave you an example as to why that isn't an accurate thing to go off of. Would you like more? I seem to remember a Deacon, a Dentist, and a Ringmaster who they were "doing nothing with" for awhile.

What I was trying to allude to, is that wins/losses aren't a very good indicator on talent. Nobody is saying that because he is losing, he's going to be a big star. That's ridiculous. He's got size, he is mobile, he's got charisma, and he's linked to one of the biggest heels in the company. One could definitely argue that they are definitely "doing something" with him right now in his current role.