The OFFICIAL Jon Jones is Ducking Rashad Evans because Suga has a key for that lame ass riddle Thread.
 

That's right bitches...my fanboy love for Suga has been validated by the latest turn of events.

First, Shad backs out of the Rua fight due to injury, making way for Jones (Who Shad didn't want in Jackson's camp anyhow) to take a crack at Rua.

Then, the Internet Community crowned Jones the champ, prodding Shad to break the infamous teammates don't fight each other code. Shad doesn't take the bait.

FUCKING THEN...Jones goes exactly against the edict stated and followed by many before him and say he'll fight Evans, cause that's what Mr. Dana White wants, fucking twat.

then he beats Rua, which seemed more like a formatily.

THEN Rashad gets serious, leaves Jacksons, and goes on the offensive to make it known that he has a foot for Jones' ass.

Then this fucking twat 'gets hurt' when he hasn't been training, and he definitely didn't get hurt in his last two fights. SO HE BACKS OUT OF THE FIGHT WITH EVANS.

Then (whoa this is getting long, but STAY WITH ME...the truth is here) Evans says he is just ready to fight so he takes the next 'next big thing' in Phil Davis as a replacement fight.


THEN FUCKING THIS


http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Jon...1-Return-32334

NOW THIS CUNTBAG DOESN'T NEED SURGERY! NOW THIS ASS DOUCHE IS READY TO FIGHT THIS YEAR. FUNNY HOW THAT'S THE CASE RIGHT AFTER SUGA SIGNS ON TO FIGHT DAVIS. FUNNY HOW THAT WORKS...JON JONES IS AFRAID OF RASHAD EVANS!

picture this:

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multiply the damage by 10:

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ya dig?

So was Shad ducking Rua when he "got hurt" so he didn't have to fight him?

CSL...did you run straight to Sherdog to find this picture? totally unamazing, considering that RASHAD took that fight after Rampage backed out, and he figured he would use the same gameplan he developed for Rampage with Machida. BUT WE WON'T MAKE EXCUSES! WE TOOK THE FIGHT AND WE LOST, BADLY. I will take Jon Jones running like a bitch and multiply that times a million. Troll status denied sir.

No, Shad was in a knee brace for 4 weeks. Rashad should've ducked Diego Sanchez during Wrestling drills...lol this wouldn't be a problem then!

But sir, I present yet more information that i withheld just for this response:
THE INJURY FOR WICH JON JONES IS 'NEEDING SURGERY' HAS BEEN AN 'ISSUE' SINCE COLLEGE.

AS A MATTER OF FACT...JONES HAS SAID THAT HE IS SIMPLY 'CHOOSING TO GET THIS SURGERY NOW, AND HE IS NOT PRESSED TO HAVE IT FIXED'.

Read the article sir.

You shouldn't sir. Rashad will beat Jon Jones, verily I say unto you.

I actually find Evans more appealing since becoming a douche.

I'm not buying a Rashad Evans ppv. I will however, purchase a jon jones ppv.

I like both fighters but you can not say that fighter A will def beat fighter B in any fight..

MMA is opitimises "any given sunday"..

Unless you're GSP or Anderson Silva.

I thought about the fact that I said Silva will ko GSP after I posted that ..

You mean GSP is gonna lay on top of Silva for 5 rounds?

GSP never lays on anyone. He always keeps working and def tries to finish fights. The problem is that he's a bit too nice guy now. I was watching his older fights around UFC 129 and he used to just not give a shit. If he kept it standing he kicked your ass hard. If he took it to the ground as soon as he got dominant positions he'd lock the most brutal submission he had from that position and cranked the fuck out of it. The shit with Dan Hardy, while classy, was stupid. If Hardy is going to be dumb enough to fuck up his arm/shoulder and risk ending his career by not tapping, that's his own fault. GSP should have held it longer.

I believe GSP tried to rip his arm from his body, just didn't use the proper technique.

And you have nothing to counter any point I made but this ridiculous google image result.

and this thread isn't so much about if Evans would beat Jones, as it is about jones AVOIDING Evans!

That is painfully obvious (jones' ducking) unless JonJone fanboy love is clouding yr judgement

Very good...but how many people have rocked Rampage? sugar has... How many people have dominated T. Silva? Machida, and Suga! It's your money bro, But I wanna see a champion NOT duck a challenge

Rashad is scared of Jon Jones.

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Wanderlei Silva is the only fighter to ever truely "rock" Rampage..

Also, Rampage was very close to TKO'ing your boy early in that fight..

Um, Krisp P... Wander lie was the only man to truly leave Rampage near death! And yes, rampage's knee almost caused serious damage... But Shad cracked Page in his Jaw, and Suga made it out the fight victorious.

Now that I'm thinking about it, that was the most brutal Pride KO I've ever seen...

lol how many top contenders at 205 have split decisioned Michael Bisping, and drawn with Tito Ortiz (out of sheer luck)

Rashad isn't faking injuries and surgeries. Jon jones is.

The same amount of fighters that brutally finished Chuck Liddell, AND Forrest Griffin.

Lol, right.

Even if he is ducking him, how long can he really do it? If Evans beats Davis, which he should, then he's in line for a shot, come on, this is just ridiculous.

To be fair, a stong breeze could finish Chuck Lidell, and a slightly stonger one would finish Forrest.

I like Rashad but you are coming off as a complete dickrider..

I mean, I'm a huge Rampage mark so I could make similar arguments about him.. Like, who is the only guy to KO Liddell and Wandy??

Rashad has been KO'd in UFC while Rampage's only two losses since coming to the UFC were both close decisions..

(p.s. I realize Shogun TKO'd him but that was with soccer kicks, which would destroy anyone)

On that last thought, I think when Rampage beats Hamill and if Shogun beats whoever they give him next, that would be an awesome rematch which should be for a contender spot..

IC, before Rashad, nobody was putting Chuck away, like that. Rashad was the first of the brutal Iceman KO's

I thought Rampage KO'd him first.

You could make similar arguments. You do realize that I only made the statement in response to Dale...right? I'm a serious fan of Page as well. A rematch between Rua and Jackson will be Epic. Unless I missed something, Rua/Griffin II is set for UFC Rio

Right. Page got him first. Then a loss to jardine...then a win, then the streak.

From Rampage's Fight Finder page:

<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr align="center"><td class="Txt11Gray OddBgd" height="30">Win </td> <td class="Txt11Gray OddBgd"> Chuck Liddell </td> <td class="Txt11Gray OddBgd">TKO (Punches) </td> <td class="Txt11Gray OddBgd"> UFC 71 - Liddell vs. Jackson </td> <td class="Txt11Gray OddBgd">5/26/2007 </td> <td class="Txt11Gray OddBgd">1 </td> <td class="Txt11Gray OddBgd">1:53 </td></tr></tbody></table>
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr align="center"><td class="Txt11Gray OddBgd" height="30"> Loss </td> <td class="Txt11Gray OddBgd"> Rashad Evans </td> <td class="Txt11Gray OddBgd">KO (Punch) </td> <td class="Txt11Gray OddBgd"> UFC 88 - Breakthrough </td> <td class="Txt11Gray OddBgd">9/6/2008 </td> <td class="Txt11Gray OddBgd">2 </td> <td class="Txt11Gray OddBgd">1:51 </td></tr></tbody></table>

From Chuck's Fight Finder page..

Just look at the dates..

IC beat me to it..

Is it? Hmm, when the dust settlesRampage, Rua, Griffin, Franklin, and even Machida could all have viable stakes to the crown. How ridiculous was it for Tito Ortiz to duck Liddell for so long? It has happened in the sport before.

Hell, I beat you to it.

I knew he had a fight lined up but couldn't remember who it was with..

Prolly give Machida a gay ass "rubber match" with Shogun before they do a Page/Shogun rematch..

Would be immense though..

:'(

Tito Ortiz was a much bigger draw, and held much more bargaining power than Jones ever will. Ortiz is still probably a bigger draw.

Also, Ortiz and Chuck did fight, didnt they? This is more a coincidence then anything, now if there were more facts to base this on more than the one fight, I think it's just outlandish to say he's ducking him. Rashad probably doesn't believe it, or maybe he does, but I'm guessing this is more him playing mind games then anything.

Talk about "ducking fights" and Tito Ortiz's name is sure to come up..

Let's all hope not. But in a title elimiator, that makes sense...I would much rather see Rua Dismantle Griffin then the Rampage Rematch.

Holy shit, that would be awesome.

Coincidence? After I have carefully researched and presented to you a body of facts? :foc:


Seriously, this is PURELY COINCIDENCE. I GET IT!!! I mean, who would schedule an optional surgery, only to back out and not need it right after the opponent signs a replacement fight? Niggas wouldn't do that just to avoid fighting somebody who knows all the tricks in my arsenal...:roll:

From what I read, he was told by several doctors he needed surgery, and then before he was to have said surgery the surgeon, or a doctor decided that surgery wasn't nessicery.

Again, when he ducks him two or three more times, then it's not just a crazy conspiracy.

And I'm pretty sure this is the same guy who has no problem with Nick Diaz ducking wrestlers, though I could be wrong.

Well now you're just going and trying to be logical...

Krimzon probably thinks Sonny Liston is still ducking George Chuvalo.

You are so quick to dismiss what I'm saying as fan boy logic. Cain had surgery. lesnar had a disease. JON JONES HAS A HAND...WHATEVER....THAT HE HAS HAD SINCE COLLEGE. HE SAID HIMSELF, HE DIDN'T NEED SURGERY BUT HE WAS CHOOSING TO GET IT FIXED. When this came out...cool, whatever. But as soon as the fight with Evans/Davis is inked, this guy pops up and is ok? It is a miracle! He doesn't need to have the elective surgery. But whatever, this is the second 'questionable' thing that has come up against Jones. I'm sure we could go another 3 pages with you asses defending him breaking Team Jackson's code too...

I'm not defending Jones, so much as I am being rational. I actually hope Evans wins. I'm not a some Jones fanboy or anything.

So, when Jones camp says he will fight again in 2011, but he won't fight Evans, what is that?

Well, you have certainly told me. So, to dismiss recognizing a pattern of events as speculation is rationality and logic?
Lol, whatever man...Again, when Jon jones steps up, and says bring Rashad Evans head to me...

Jesus, so now that jones is back and able to fight, why is his publicist saying he won't fight Evans? Or, does this not register on you radar as an instance?

And not once have I refrenced rashad Evans twitter, or statements that he made. I have mentioned events and suspicious actions that Jon Jones have made

I think Bones' manager just handled this very badly. Jones did say some conflicting things about the injury and Kawa's tweets and interviews didn't really clear up anything. If Matt Mitrione fires your manager on national television, you should probably find better representation. I can see why Shad would be pissed.

At the same time, I don't think anyone can question Jon Jones' heart. I'm a Rashad Evans fan too, but Jones took a fight with Shogun on the spot and I don't think he even thought he'd run through him the way he did. I don't think Jones is ducking Suga.

Definitely agree with that. It's just with so many people having a voice, you'd think his manager would be the voice of reason. This guy just keeps fucking up. His twitter page is him talking about "Haters" and going back and forth with 15 year olds. You'd never see legit sports agents like Scott Boras or Drew Rosenhaus doing crap like that.

if rashad even could get near jones in a fight i would be amazed. i will bet any of you good money jones beats rashad when that fight happens.

I wont be, Rashad has very good wrestling, and excellent takedowns, and changes levels about as well as anyone. Not to mention his boxing is very good, and is better than Jones', and Evans footwork has also been improving.

On paper Evans has alot of advantages over Jones, now it's up to how he overcomes the size and reach disadvantage.

He also hasn't fought in a long fucking time. The Davis fight serves as good prep for him.

I think seeing Jones and Evans as coaches on TUF would be intriguing in so many ways.

I hope he doesn't sleep on Davis cause that guy's wrestling is beast mode activated..

Speaking of Rashad Evans, I met him at a club in Toronto back in August/September. I saw him get rejected by like 6-7 different girls he tried to dance with. It was funny. I thought UFC fighters could get any chick they wanted.

This article is a pretty good read. I really don't think Jones is "ducking him" anyway. Makes no sense.

http://mmajunkie.com/news/23598/ufc-...-years-end.mma

Is Jon Jones ducking John Jones?

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Kinda hard to type while coddling Rashad's testicles..

What else is there to say? I see what I see, you see (or dont) see whatever you believe. I am still looking for another jumping pad, whatever the fuck that is.

Jones/Evans TUF could be cool, but that would only further delay the fight, that I still believe Jones doesnt want. We will allow this dramedy to play out and WHEN Jones further displays his yellow streak, I will start the official I told u jones was ducking shad now get in line to suck my dick thread

lol ur a clown. Be a real MMA fan and stop hugging nuts so god damned hard.

Krimzon, look man. You're entitled to your opinion and all, but you just need to dial down the fanaticism a bit because you're approaching this territory right here:

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I AM a real MMA fan, I've got my tap out t shirts, and I train UFC everyday. Anyhow, I guess I can put Shad's nuts down long enough to say that it boggles me how Machida can go from potentially cut from the UFC, to crane kicking his way to a 50/50 (w/rampage) for an October title fight. Thiago Silva is somewhere pissed :shifty: that he couldn't get a better fake pee sample!

Additionally, I don't care how I come off as. I know what I'm saying isn't popular, and I hope I'm wrong. I hope jj can grow a set and fight rashad. Oh, wait...I see a jump pad.

You know Davis has good wrestling... But then what? His striking is still evolving, and his submissions are ok. I hope he is working dilligently on that before this fight.

His submissions are sick..

He got Tim Boetch with a kimura and Alexander Gustofson with a choke he invented himself...

Rashad has never subbed anyone in the UFC..

FYI

Not gonna lie, I'd mark out pretty big for Jon Jones v. Rampage Jackson. Jones/Machida... not so much. If Hamill beats Rampage, I think he'd get the nod as #1 contender for a title match, if only for Jones to avenge his "loss."

Yea..Hamill would pee his panties if he was asked to sign a rematch with Bones, he almost got murderd last time

I don't know see Davis submitting Evans, or probably even controlling Evans on the ground.

I see Evans holding grappling advantage when they step in the cage. Just watch Evans takedown Rampage, the way he sets up his takedowns with combo's and then effortlessly changes levels for the takedown. By the time Rampage was looking to counter and take Evans head off, Evans already had his waist and hips and was driving him to the mat.

Yeah but I'd venture that Jon Jones is a better wrestler than Rampage. Since Rampage has been at Wolfslair, his wrestling has been less than threatening. Jones is kind of a mystery every time he goes in there, noone knows QUITE how good his wrestling is just yet, but up to this point, he's been extremely dominant with it. I don't think Rashad could outgrapple Matt Hamill the way Jon Jones did, for instance.

I wasn't referring to Jones, but that wouldn't surprise me either.

I didn't say he would.. just saying he has sub wins while Rashad doesn't..

Is Jon Jones ducking The Rapture?

I never said he did, FYI.

Jones/Rampage would be a great match. Page pretty much flew his crew to his house to train for Machida and Hamill. He looked so much better against machida, it will be interesting to see how he looks Saturday.

CSL, I swear, you will be seeking my permanent banning when I say I told you so every day for a year after jones finds another way outta fighting Rashad.

Did the rapture back out of an optional surgery for an injury that it had fought with since college? There's a lot of that going around...

CSL as much as you claim that I'm a nutthugging fanboy, you have to be suckling from the teet of the Jon jones/UFC hype machine. If three outta four doctors told my employee to get surgery...he would get goddam surgery. But I'm jumping to conclusions, just like the doctors. Im also jumping to conclusions to question the auspicious timing of all of these events too.

I'm telling you Krim, the only reason this is an issue is because Malki Kawa is a dumbass who has no idea about public relations. He's the one who's been contradicting himself like a bumbling fool.

As outspoken as Dana White is about everything, I think there's a reason why he hasn't said anything at all about this. It's because it's not an issue. Hopefully Bones gets a real agent so he can capitalize on his success.