You know what we need more of? Stolen finishers.
 

Hate how like 472 guys use a similar uranage/spinebuster variation or some STO or facebuster shit that all looks alike.

Gotta bring back some hot moves from the past. Randy Orton sucked dick before he started using the diamond cutter. But nobody gives a shit that he's not that good now because we all pop for the RKO.

So yeah pick some old moves you wanna see back and give it to a guy to use.

pile drivers

Big Show should do the boss man slam. And I would like to see someone use the British bulldogs running power slam his kid should do it or that poor mans Batista in nexus

I was wondering earlier what the statute is on finishers? Like when can a new guy start busting out a Superkick (not in ROH) or the Rock Bottom?

And no more downward spiral/complete shot/mic checks

The Jackhammer would be nice for a guy like Mason Ryan. But not Mason Ryan because he's green as shit.

A variation of a DDT. (Not the Pedigree.)

Triple Germans. And really any nice throw Suplex.

A smaller guy could use the Dudley Dog/Acid Drop.

I don't see why they couldn't give a Piledriver to someone. If Taker's allowed to do the Tombstone, one person should be allowed to do the regular Piledriver. And it's been long enough banned that it'd be considered a devastating finisher again.

I guess it's too early for someone to get a Superkick, but down the line (a few years) it'd be nice.

If Nash weren't associated with WWE, I'd say the Jackknife.

There's a shitload of submission finishers that could be resurrected as finishers. Texas Cloverleaf, Dragon Sleeper, Crossface Chickenwing, Figure Four.

Some resurrections of moves I've enjoyed of late are the Razor's Edge (Celtic Cross) for Sheamus and the sleeper for Ziggler.

Let Mason Ryan use the Batista Bomb. Might as well.

I think Kharma used to do the Batista Bomb too as her finisher in TNA before the Implant Buster. Liked the Batista Bomb way more than the Implant Buster.

Was totally thinking of the Jackhammer for Mason Ryan.

Falcon Arrow or Rikishi Driver.

The Moss Covered Three-Handled Family Gredunza.

More guys need to use more of the names out of Jericho's list of 1004 Holds. Del Rio's armbar should be called "Armbar 712".

Remember when Hardcore Holly had the "holly-caust" as his finisher? Then they just called it the falcon arrow. Lame.

Michinoku Driver anyone?

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Would like to see the F5 and Baldo Bomb make a return

also give Chris Masters the god damn torture rack

No. You know what? After that small package joke you're not allowed to post in here again. Good day.

Agree with everything here, ESPEICALLY the F5. It's such an amazing move that's going to waste. They gave it to Show and Matt Morgan, but neither used it for more than one or two shows.

Tbh, I would totally mark out if someone started using the torture rack.

This one would probably be tough, but the mandible claw (sans Mr. Socko) would be interesting. Also the pumphandle slam.

The Dominator is criminally underused.

Zeke needs to use the Pearl River Plunge.

Don't we already have that with Drew McIntyre and the Future Shock DDT? It's a modified double armed DDT with the difference being he add the somewhat grapevine to the opponents legs.

Ya the future shock's not bad

plus Orton and Miz both have a DDT as one of their signature moves

Yeah, true. Didn't even think of that TBH.

But I was thinking more along the lines of a proper DDT, like the Evenflow or Jake's.

Christian too

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Haven't they banned most of these moves? Most of the piledrivers and suplexes from a few years ago can't really be utilized anymore I thought.

Rings of Saturn is a move I haven't seen done in a long time. The Buff Blockbuster.

I'd love to see someone start using the Diamond Dust as a finisher. Since it's highly unlikely that Masato Tanaka will ever sign with WWE, someone else might as well jack his finisher.

I also think the F5 should make a comeback. I'd say Mason Ryan should start using it, but he's green as fuck and would probably kill someone.

Torture Rack should be brought back, and someone should start using the Flying Elbow Drop from the top rope as a legit finisher, since HBK isn't around anymore to use it as one of his signature moves.

Shining Wizard was also a nice finisher that was used by Hurricane Helms for awhile. I wouldn't mind seeing someone else pick it up.

Canadian Destroyer on WWE TV :lol:

Fox i agree the diamond dust is sick, i used to use it when i worked the indy's and should make a comeback.

Question related to this thread (sorta):

I posted "pile driver" as my answer. I know it is a banned move. How is it that Undertaker can use the Tombstone?

If Taker can use a variation of the pile driver then someone else should be creative and also use a variation of it as well.


I miss Jerry Lawlers "pencil" pile driver. It looked awesome when he did it.




My favorite finisher right now is GTS. I would also like to see the F5 return..Mason Ryan may kill someone with it, though.

Marc Mero's TKO

Alex Riley used the TKO on NXT. Haven't seen it since tho. Prolly won't let him use it because it's too similar to the RKO. Or perhaps they will let him use it once he actually wins a match.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that

I think I saw Gunner or Murphy, whichever of the two is the one that wins, use the F5 a couple weeks ago.

I hope AJ Styles and Kurt Angle informed whichever of those gentlemen that it is NOT COOL to steal other people's finishers.

Mason Ryan should use the Torture Rack, or should use the Brock Lock (seen him use it once).

I used to Like Sean Ohaires Widowmaker.

Whip Lash. Anyone could use that for the most part.

I would also like to see more of stealing your opponent’s finisher as well.

Blizzard Suplex

i miss seeing the rings of saturn, it looks legitimate enough as a submission

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The Rikishi Driver was sick! He only used it for a couple of months but it made a lasting impression on me.

Best thing about the move is that it would pretty much work with everyone.

The Diamondust is one of Layla's Finishers, the Face Job. So, the move was officially jacked already.

Roll through single leg crab.

Rings of Saturn 4 sure

Would also like to see the Tazmission make a return although Jericho kinda killed that when he started using it as a rest hold.

How about the Carousel?

You know what else they need? Special/modified finishers for big matches. WWE needs to take a lesson from puroresu or indy wrestling on this one. Nothing big, nothing used very often, but just something for big matches when the guy kicks out of the "normal" finisher.

Misawa had the Tiger Driver 91, Jun Akiyama had the wrist clutch exploder, CIMA has his redline/wrist clutch Schwien, etc.

For example, I'd love to see a John Cena main event where someone like the Miz kicks out of the AA, so Cena hoists him back up, but instead does a sort of AA into a sit down slam pin combo (he did it a few times in the past.) Just a simple alteration of his finisher that would look more devastating, and would be great for big matches.

Same idea with the leaping tombstone Taker did to HBK, or to a lesser extent, Orton's punt kick.

I'd love to see Dibiase say fuck the Dream Street and start using the Million Dollar Dream like his dad did.

Yoshi Tatsu should start using the Tarantula and the Buzzsaw Kick like Tajiri used to.

Since Rey already used it once, he should start doing the Poison Mist to set up the 619 from now on.

Punk should start using the Stunner to further his "fued" with Austin. Use it as a way to mock him.

Zeke really should use the PRP as Xero stated.

If anyone starts using a Superkick, it should be either Morrison or Slater.

Would love to see Ryder or Hawkins bust out the Vertibreaker also.

For the first time in as long as I can remember, there is no major star using a power bomb for a finisher.

Swagger isnt using the Gut Wrench Powerbomb anymore. SO yeah, Anyone else? Let Mason Ryan use it.

If not him, then Big Brodus should use it.

torture rack!

Also, Cena has the Super FU/AA and Orton has the Super RKO.

I do agree with your post. Also, I'd like to see them move away from finishers being the end all in every match in general. Obviously some matches should end in a finisher, but guys should have four or five signatures that COULD end the match in addition to the big finishers. That's rarely the case. Usually guys have one or two moves that could end the match and the rest are just wear down moves or moves that lead to the finisher.

For example, Orton has the neck/back breaker, the suspended DDT, the RKO and the Punt. All of them should be able to end a match, but it's always the Punt or the RKO.

It'd make things more unpredictable and more exciting. In WWE especially, you can pretty much always tell when a near fall is going to be a near fall and not end the match. If you add in more signatures that do end matches on a regular basis it adds to the matches.

I think that Mason guy in Nexus did the Bulldog Slam recently right? I wonder if he will do this all the time...

YES! But how about the RUDE AWAKENING... That would be badass... Isn't Layla using something similar lately? One of the guys should pick this move back up...

What was that move that Petey Williams did? The Canadian Destroyer? Badass move for the cruiserweights...

Dunno what you's guys are talking about, The Dominator has been all over the internet the last few months

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Holy SHIT that is FANTASTIC!

Most tall men do a chokeslam so Big Show should use the 619

Big Zeke should adapt the Dominator into his repertoire.

How about the Rydeen Bomb. Nobody since Billy Kidman used it.

Yes.

Like how everyone calls it the Batista Bomb in here...it's a goddamn sitout powerbomb. That, from what I've seen, Batista almost never executed correctly...

Jackknife Powerbomb

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I think you'llfind that Batista performed the 'Batista Bomb' Brilliantly on almost every occasion he used it.

Have you stopped to think that it's called the 'Batista Bomb' because it's a move specific to him?. In that it's his variation of the 'classic' sit out powerbomb?

You know how Eddie Guerrero and RVD both extensively used frog splashes that look nothing a like?

Fair point but the only difference between a "classic" sitout powerbomb and the Batista Bomb is that he never goes for the sitout pin (he'll get up then go for the cover) and that he always looks like he's gonna pull his groin when he sits out. But to each their own.

(Example of a really good WWE sitout powerbomb: Matt Morgan on Chris Benoit at the 2004 Royal Rumble.)

can't wait to read Punks tweet about this matter. Kick his ass, seabass!

Punk also stole Hiroyoshi Tenzan's Anaconda Vice.

Everyone stole all the moves ever done from Konnan.

Texas Cloverleaf could use some love.

How about these pin attempts...

Abdominal Stretch into an Outside Cradle
Double Leg Nelson
Japanese Leg Roll Clutch
Arm-Trap Somersault Cradle
Half Nelson Cradle
STF rollover to Pinfall
Cross-legged Cradle

Someone (Punk? Rhodes?) busted out the figure four around the ringpost recently. Someone needs to start doing that on a more permanent basis because it is badass.

This isn't me being an indy/puro nerd, but there are A LOT of moves that would be perfect for guys that should be stolen.

Like, why does no one use a shining wizard? Or the Amaze impact (Face first chokeslam). I'd love to see someone bust out a wrist clutch fisherman buster as well. Not that risky, but looks great.

I believe Kharma should burst out the Amaze Impact, since it's her move to begin with. As for the wrist-clutch Fisherman Buster, hmm...I think either R-Truth, Dolph Ziggler, or Evan Bourne would be perfect to use it.

Did she? I didn't know that. I thought it was Morishima. He seemed to popularize it at least.

Yes, when she known as Amazing Kong.

Never seen it, but I'll take your word for it. Personally, I just want to see her bust out the back fist, and her badass torture rack (preferably on Melina, since she's so flexible.)

Her Torture Rack, definitely.

Didn't Batista start using that move shortly before he left WWE?

I think it was him. It was for a Submission Match against Cena maybe?

I think Batista's version had a crossface applied with it too. It looked pretty legit from what I remember.

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Not quite the rings since he gets a facelock.

I forgot this. That was a sick move.

Alberto Del Rio really needs to steal the Minoru special # 2 (Northern Lights Suplex rolled through into a cross arm breaker). It's perfect for him. Someone should also use the Scorpion Arm Lock. It's hard to imagine, but it's at the end of this video.

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Scorpion arm lock looks like it would do nothing.

Yeah, Scorpion arm lock looks like shit.

You will be pleased to hear that Ezekial Jackson is now using the Torture Rack as a finish.

Chris Masters to re-debut the Pearl River Plunge next week.

The scissored Fujiwara Armbar and the Bridging Rings of Saturn are awesome. Those should be used.

Yeah I don't really care about stealing Japanese moves. That doesn't really count. Talking more about using the Stunner.

Thanks tho :y:

Pretty sure Santino is using the stunner. Well, a slightly modified version.

Santino is using a modified Heart Punch.

Say whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

I haven't seen Santino wrestle in 4ever.

Eugene stole a shitload of moves.

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It's pretty funny - a lot of the moves in this thread are actually used by one or more active guys today. Just saying.

In his feud with Randy Orton, especially if he becomes a heel, I'd like to see Christian start using the Diamond Cutter. It could sort of be like his "sneaky" answer to the RKO for newer fans. The Killswitch is all well and good, but it takes ages to set-up, and while he shouldn't scrap it, I like it when guys have multiple ways they can win a match. Christian also used the Texas Cloverleaf for a bit, too. I wouldn't mind seeing him use that. Or give it to someone like Darren Young, who could use it.

Layla uses the Diamond Dust, but I wouldn't mind seeing a babyface like Yoshi Tatsu bust it out. Even a guy like JTG could benefit from that move.

Chris Masters should really get a move that can get him pinfall wins. I don't want to take the easy route and say Full Nelson Slam, either. He has used the Jackhammer in the past, but I think a Tiger Driver could be great for him. Also, Masters uses the "Rydeen Bomb," as someone mentioned. And so does Ted DiBiase. And Titus O'Neil.

I'd mark out if Cody Rhodes started using the Cross Rhodes as a set-up to some sort of neck-based submission hold. The Rings of Saturn, perhaps? He's used a Figure Four in the past, too.

John Morrison could start using the Superkick as an "out of nowhere" move to finish matches, or to just set-up for the Starship Pain. For some reason, I could see Drew McIntyre doing a pretty nifty superkick, too. I don't want to see him using it every match, but it could be one of those great "WHOA SHIT!" out of nowhere moves. And I do have to give kudos to R-Truth - he's the first guy to make me care about the Paydirt/Play of the Day/Truth Hurts/Token Black Finish (as someone else in Tipsters has noticed) in a long time. I actually think his suplex into a Stunner move could be a good finish for him, though. Coolest looking move R-Truth has.

And the F5 should definitely make a return. Mason Ryan seems like the obvious choice, I guess. But maybe there is someone else? Maybe keep it saved? But Ryan's finishing moves at present are pretty underwhelming. I've never been able to get behind the Boss Man Slam, sorry. Kong should also use her Sit-Down Powerbomb. It looks vicious when she does it on a tiny girl.

The Johnny Saint Special (Lady Of The Lake)

Yeah, he's used it as a set up for the Cobra a few times.The only difference is that instead of dropping down to his ass, he does the spits.

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Drew McIntyre did the figure four around the ringpost on Monday. :y:

Yeah that was pretty sick.

That move and the pyro made me think Drew was finally getting his push back.

That and he divorced Tiffany. Could be the smartest thing he's done.