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XL 06-05-2011 02:35 PM

Best & Worst #1: WWE Champion [RESULTS POSTED]
 
Figured I'd start a series of these.

In YOUR opinion, based on whatever criteria you choose - be it "mark", "smark" or "super-smark" (those that look at things from a business standpoint taking into account buyrates, ratings, merch movement, etc) - who was the very best and very worst WWE Champion.

**NOTE: Just WWF/WWE Champion. Do not consider World Champions or any other championship. You may count the Undisputed Championship as WWE Champion if you like.**

VSG 06-05-2011 02:47 PM

Best- Triple H
Worst- Ultimate Warrior

MoFo 06-05-2011 02:53 PM

Worst - Eddie Guerrero
Best - Triple H

djoutcry 06-05-2011 03:01 PM

Best - HHH
Worst - Mankind

BizarroKing 06-05-2011 03:05 PM

Best: John Cena
Worst: Mr. McMahon (yes he was WWE Champion at one point)

Nicky Fives 06-05-2011 03:05 PM

Great idea for a series......

Best: "Stone Cold" Steve Austin
Worst: Vince McMahon

RiX1024 06-05-2011 03:59 PM

Best: Steve Austin

Worst: Bob Backlund (1994 run)

Aguakate 06-05-2011 04:10 PM

Best- Hulk Hogan

Worst- Kane

teamXtremist 06-05-2011 05:18 PM

best-the rock

worst-jeffhardy

Wolfpack423 06-05-2011 05:30 PM

Best- Stone Cold Steve Austin particularly his 2001 reign. I thought those were some of his best matches as champion during that time period and I personally enjoyed his heel run just as much as his face run.

Worst-The Miz

Flash Funk 06-05-2011 06:07 PM

Best: HBK

Worst: Jeff Hardy

The Naitch 06-05-2011 06:15 PM

best- Stone Cold

worst- The Miz

DLVH84 06-05-2011 06:19 PM

Best - Bret Hart (1st reign)
Worst - Yokozuna (1st reign)

blake639raw 06-05-2011 06:30 PM

Best - Hogan
Worst - Vince McMahon

St. Jimmy 06-05-2011 06:32 PM

Best: Shawn Michaels
Worst: Jeff Hardy

Graveler 06-05-2011 06:33 PM

Best: Hulk Hogan (1984 run)
Worst: Jeff Hardy (The CM punk feud is the only thing about his reign)

CSL 06-05-2011 06:40 PM

Best - Hulk Hogan
Worst - Stan Stasiak (looked like shit, 9 day reign in an ass-boring era. At least Bruno, Pedro and co looked the part)

CSL 06-05-2011 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geodude91 (Post 3543754)
Worst: Jeff Hardy (The CM punk feud is the only thing about his reign)

Wasn't for the WWE title

Tazz Dan 06-05-2011 06:44 PM

Best - HHH
Worst - Ric Flair

SaskatchewanChamp 06-05-2011 06:47 PM

Best = Diesel

Worst = Shawn Michaels.

Whoever said Shawn Michaels was the best is a fucking retard.

CSL 06-05-2011 06:47 PM

Another pearl of wisdom

St. Jimmy 06-05-2011 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaskatchewanChamp (Post 3543765)
Best = Diesel

Worst = Shawn Michaels.

Whoever said Shawn Michaels was the best is a fucking retard.

u mad.

Tazz Dan 06-05-2011 07:00 PM

Some people obviously have nothing better to do with their lives.

Cuse8 06-05-2011 07:03 PM

best- rock
worst- hogans last run (93)

ImpactPlayer365 06-05-2011 07:11 PM

Best: Austin

Worst: Big Show

Joesgonnakillyou 06-05-2011 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cuse8 (Post 3543771)
best- rock
worst- hogans last run (93)

That wasn't his last run, he won it again in 2002.

Best: Austin

Worst: Kane

Joesgonnakillyou 06-05-2011 07:21 PM

I think anyone who hasn't picked Vince, Kane or Bob Backlund as the worst hasn't thought it though properly. Or are obvious trolls

CSL 06-05-2011 07:36 PM

Of course, because there is a definitive answer as opposed to it being a matter of opinion. Your post right there resembles trolling more than anything not posted by a mutie from Sakatchewan in here.

Scottness89 06-05-2011 07:52 PM

Big Show. I mean defending the title against a washed up Big Bossman?...nuff Said

Shisen Kopf 06-05-2011 08:01 PM

Best-Bret Hart

Worst has to be Backlunds "reign" in 1994. Khali was a pretty shit champ as was swagger but that wasn't the WWE champ was it?

Scottness89 06-05-2011 08:03 PM

Big Show being the worst. The best for me would probably be HHH in 2000.

Ruien 06-05-2011 08:15 PM

Best: The Miz (Prisoner of the moment type of deal I guess)
Worst: Big Show

Emperor Smeat 06-05-2011 08:18 PM

Best: Stone Cold (during the debut of the Smoking Skull belt)
Worst: Backland's 1 day reign.

Backland ended up being worse because he became champion during a good match with Bret Hart and Owen Hart pretending to be concerned over Bret's safety as a way to con his parents into throwing the towel. He then looses it a day later in one of the shortest title matches to Diesel who himself didn't have a great run either.

TheChairman 06-05-2011 08:19 PM

Honestly, I am not sure you can classify anyone who has been WWE Champion as a "Bad" champion. I looked at the list of champions and to say any one of those men are the "worst" doesn't do them justice. I think every guy on the list deserved to be champion, except maybe Vince McMahon. However, I will not be "that guy" and chose;

Best: Hogan

Worst: Kane (Because of the length of his reign, but like I said, he did deserve to be champ)

XL 06-05-2011 08:45 PM

OK Smark Alec, let's say "least deserving" if that works better for you. :p

XL 06-05-2011 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shisen Kopf (Post 3543796)
Best-Bret Hart

Worst has to be Backlunds "reign" in 1994. Khali was a pretty shit champ as was swagger but that wasn't the WWE champ was it?

That was the World Heavyweight Championship, which is a whole other thread. Literally.

Tazz Dan 06-05-2011 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joesgonnakillyou (Post 3543777)
That wasn't his last run, he won it again in 2002.

Best: Austin

Worst: Kane

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joesgonnakillyou (Post 3543778)
I think anyone who hasn't picked Vince, Kane or Bob Backlund as the worst hasn't thought it though properly. Or are obvious trolls

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSL (Post 3543785)
Of course, because there is a definitive answer as opposed to it being a matter of opinion. Your post right there resembles trolling more than anything not posted by a mutie from Sakatchewan in here.

Pretty sure he was just after attention.

Shisen Kopf 06-05-2011 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 3543817)
That was the World Heavyweight Championship, which is a whole other thread. Literally.

Worst-Christian

Triple Naitch 06-05-2011 09:31 PM

Best: Stone Cold
Worst: Bob Backlund

CSL 06-05-2011 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tazz Dan (Post 3543824)
Pretty sure he was just after attention.

Same thing minus the label.

Jordan 06-05-2011 09:44 PM

Best: Shawn Michaels 1996 run
Worst: Sgt Slaughter in the early 90's.

voncouch 06-05-2011 11:13 PM

Best: Hogan in the 80s/early 90s. Him and Vince put wrestling on the map
Worst: Rey Mysterio. All love due to Rey, he was horrifically booked.

KIRA 06-06-2011 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VSG (Post 3543590)
Best- Triple H
Worst- Ultimate Warrior

VSG man, for a split second I registered Ultimate Warrior as Undertaker. I was getting ready to lay into your unfounded opinion with the verbal opinion of a lighting strike from the heavens.

:lol:

Droford 06-06-2011 02:57 AM

Best - Bret Hart
Worst - Psycho Sid

XL 06-06-2011 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by voncouch (Post 3543904)
Best: Hogan in the 80s/early 90s. Him and Vince put wrestling on the map
Worst: Rey Mysterio. All love due to Rey, he was horrifically booked.

Must have been some bad booking if he becomes the worst despite never even holding the WWE Title.

MVP 06-06-2011 04:28 PM

Best: Stone Cold Steve Austin

Worst: Yokozuna

Volare 06-06-2011 04:51 PM

Best : SCSA (WM 14)

Worst :Bob Backlund (1994)

jskinnyg 06-06-2011 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoFo (Post 3543594)
Worst - Eddie Guerrero
Best - Triple H

Eddie the worst? Really? Even over Sycho Sid, The Ultimate Warrior & Rey Jr??? Damn... Well, people probably won't like my pics either...

Best: Unified titles in 2001 w/ Chris Jericho
Worst: Ultimate Warrior, hands down...

XCaliber 06-06-2011 06:56 PM

Best - The Rock
Worst - Sargeant Slaughter

Dark-Slicer Diago 06-06-2011 07:24 PM

Best - Triple H
Worst - Vince McMahon

XCaliber 06-06-2011 07:36 PM

If it were for worst ECW Champion i'd pick Vinny Mac but he help build the WWE and it was all part of a storyline which I though was fine winning the Royal Rumble on the other hand...

Seth82 06-06-2011 10:13 PM

Best - Bruno Sammartino

Worst - Stan "The Man" Stasiak

Stan Stasiak had no business being world champion

Jordan 06-06-2011 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seth82 (Post 3544933)
Best - Bruno Sammartino

Worst - Stan "The Man" Stasiak

Stan Stasiak had no business being world champion

Seth82 brings the old to school

Mr.Pewterschmidt 06-07-2011 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 3544103)
Must have been some bad booking if he becomes the worst despite never even holding the WWE Title.

:lol:

Supreme Olajuwon 06-07-2011 02:03 PM

It would seem to me that a transitional champ should be exempt from this since there was never any intention to make them look good. Backlund had a short run but he put Nash over like he was a god. Nash himself has even said as much. So Backlund wasn't a memorable champion, but he had a job to do and he did it excellently.

The worst champ to me would be someone they tried to book like a superhero but the guy totally dropped the ball. That would probably be the Ultimate Warrior.

As for best, it's hard not to say Austin since they made the belt the focal point of the biggest feud in the company's history.

Schlomey 06-07-2011 02:09 PM

best: Hogan
worst: Kane

srnrew 06-08-2011 12:35 AM

The Best:


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_bdsb4lZwI7...TLEYOURWAY.png

Jordan 06-09-2011 11:25 AM

Oh come on, how the hell could Jericho possibly be the best? Sure he's awesome, but he was not the greatest champ ever, or even in the top 10.

XCaliber 06-09-2011 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fragile X (Post 3547739)
Oh come on, how the hell could Jericho possibly be the best? Sure he's awesome, but he was not the greatest champ ever, or even in the top 10.

Dunno about anyone else burt he'd probably be in my top 5.

DAMN iNATOR 06-09-2011 01:18 PM

Best: The Rock
Worst: Cena

Gertner 06-09-2011 03:56 PM

Best : Hulk Hogan
Worst: Stan Stasiak


And Mr. Bob Backlund was fucking awesome.

Rock Bottom 06-10-2011 08:23 AM

This is so tough.

I cannot pick best between Hogan and Hart.

Austin and Rock were not about championships. That was just a piece of gold they flung around. Or I'd consider them as well. Poor wording maybe, but whatever.

Worst? Sid? Maybe?

XL 06-10-2011 09:10 AM

I intend to work out who is officially "The Best/Worst" in each category we do, so I'm only counting solid answers. Just so you know.

XCaliber 06-10-2011 10:25 AM

It would be hard to pick someone as the best IC Champion of all the times but worst probably wouldn't be so difficult I don't think.

VSG 06-10-2011 10:33 AM

Fuck off bitch, just like the rest of your OCW accounts did.

Cool King 06-10-2011 10:45 AM

Best: Stone Cold Steve Austin
Worst: Jeff Hardy

VSG 06-10-2011 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VSG (Post 3548869)
Fuck off bitch, just like the rest of your OCW accounts did.

Now I look like an idiot swearing off to no one.

Cool King 06-10-2011 10:54 AM

Well you did tell him to fuck off, and he did by the looks of it. :p

The Show Off 06-10-2011 10:57 AM

Best
Bret Hart

Worst
The Iron Sheik

RP 06-10-2011 11:10 AM

Best- Austin

Worst- Sycho Sid

XL 06-10-2011 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VSG (Post 3548894)
Now I look like an idiot swearing off to no one.

:lol: That had me all confused for a moment.

XL 06-15-2011 03:03 AM

BEST

Of the 40 gentlemen to be recognised as WWF/E Champion, 11 were nominated as the "Best Ever WWF/E Champion". But only one man can hold that title belt aloft in glory. And with 27% of the popular vote, that man is...

http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/a...n_calapr99.jpg



WORST

18 men were put forward for the dishonor of being labelled the "Worst Ever WWF/E Champion" and with 11.36% of the unpopular vote each we have a tie...

http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/a.../JeffHardy.jpg
http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/a..._Backlund3.jpg

XL 06-15-2011 03:05 AM

On a side note, 4 men were nominated as both Best and Worst WWF/E Champion of All-time (Cena, Shawn Michaels, Hulk Hogan & The Miz).

SlickyTrickyDamon 06-15-2011 03:51 AM

I'd say that Backlund's great run should be a tiebreaker in his favor, so Jeff should be the worst on his own.

Rock Bottom 06-15-2011 08:58 AM

Yeah I am a bit reluctant to classify Backlund in the same ilk as Jeff Hardy.

MVP 06-15-2011 09:16 AM

I didn't consider transitional champions in this. Despite the fact that "transitional champion" is a loosely-defined term, Bob Backlund was obviously one of them in his second reign. In his first reign he had some fantastic matches. I'm pretty sure he wrestled Harley Race to a 60 minute time limit draw a couple of times.

XL 06-15-2011 09:24 AM

Hey, I just posting what the people voted. TPWW has lumped Bob Backlund in with Jeff Hardy.

voncouch 06-15-2011 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 3544103)
Must have been some bad booking if he becomes the worst despite never even holding the WWE Title.

Six of one, half a dozen of the other. As far as I'm concerned, if you're in the WWE and you won the main belt, you won the WWE title.

Graveler 06-15-2011 03:13 PM

The way I look at it is this. There are guys in the company in which I may not be a fan of, but I understand why the WWE would push them. I just don't get the push for Hardy. They've had problems with him in the past regarding his drug use (Fuck, look at him in TNA now). Sure the fans liked him, but why risk pushing a guy who most likely is going to fuck up again? At least Backlund did his job as a transitional champ and made Diesel like decent.

XL 06-15-2011 04:13 PM

Like you said the guy was popular with the crowd and that equals money in Vince's pocket.

Don't forget that this very forum loved the idea of Jeff Hardy: World Champion at the time. It's only now that we've turned on him for being the fuck up he has always been.

CSL 06-15-2011 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geodude91 (Post 3553501)
The way I look at it is this. There are guys in the company in which I may not be a fan of, but I understand why the WWE would push them. I just don't get the push for Hardy. They've had problems with him in the past regarding his drug use (Fuck, look at him in TNA now). Sure the fans liked him, but why risk pushing a guy who most likely is going to fuck up again? At least Backlund did his job as a transitional champ and made Diesel like decent.


XL 06-15-2011 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by voncouch (Post 3553333)
Six of one, half a dozen of the other. As far as I'm concerned, if you're in the WWE and you won the main belt, you won the WWE title.

LOL

You know that's not the idea of the thread though, right?

CSL 06-15-2011 04:24 PM

I should have voted Austin as the worst champion here, give me the baghead over the guy that slaps his missus about everytime

MoFo 06-15-2011 05:25 PM

Dunno what everyones problem is w/ Hardy being a junkie, it doesn't make him a shit champ. He wasn't a sloppy mess or anything, unless yous are going on his TNA run, which isn't the point.

Rock Bottom 06-16-2011 04:46 PM

I always thought Jeff Hardy was a spaz.


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