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St. Jimmy 06-11-2011 08:05 PM

Racism + Wrestling
 
There will never be a truly Black WWE Champion. Discuss.

St. Jimmy 06-11-2011 08:05 PM

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St. Jimmy 06-11-2011 08:07 PM

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St. Jimmy 06-11-2011 08:09 PM

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VSG 06-11-2011 08:15 PM

Define "truly black".

St. Jimmy 06-11-2011 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VSG (Post 3550128)
Define "truly black".

Mommy and Daddy were Black Folk.

VSG 06-11-2011 08:18 PM

Well at least you didn't post a black cock so I have to give you that!

Juan 06-11-2011 08:19 PM

Who was the last black wrestler that was even over? JYD?

St. Jimmy 06-11-2011 08:21 PM

Scorpio, Ron Simmons, Booker T

erickman 06-11-2011 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juan (Post 3550133)
Who was the last black wrestler that was even over? JYD?

booker but that was wcw

CSL 06-11-2011 08:24 PM

None of those were over. Bobo Brazil maybe.

Xero 06-11-2011 08:30 PM

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Fignuts 06-11-2011 08:31 PM

what booker t was champion

Tazz Dan 06-11-2011 08:31 PM

Ahmed Johnson

Xero 06-11-2011 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 3550143)
what booker t was champion

Not WWE champion.

Tazz Dan 06-11-2011 08:32 PM

GI Bro

Tazz Dan 06-11-2011 08:33 PM

Could see Zack Ryder doing something with that.

Droford 06-11-2011 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3550145)
Not WWE champion.

Thats sort of silly. WWE Champ, World Heavyweight Champ, all the same too me.

Xero 06-11-2011 08:40 PM

The World Heavyweight Championship is the Minority Heavyweight Championship. Seriously.

Minorities who have held the World Heavyweight Championship, since its inception:

Goldberg
Rey Mysterio
Booker
Khali

List of WWE Champions who have been minorities, since its inception (40 years prior to the WHC):

Inoki (And I'm not sure if this is even recognized)
Iron Sheik
Andre (Not sure if this is officially recognized)
Yokozuna
The Rock
Eddie
Sheamus

Rock, Eddie and Sheamus are the only WWE Champion minorities since the WHC's inception. And in the WHC's 9 year existence, they've had 4. In the WWE Championship's 50 year existence, only seven have held it. That's less than two per decade.

The WHC is the minority title.

Nicky Fives 06-11-2011 08:44 PM

There hasn't been a black guy good enough to carry the Title yet..... I'm sorry, but Koko B. Ware & Mabel don't cut the mustard with me.....

CSL 06-11-2011 08:44 PM

that Rock bloke was never over either

Droford 06-11-2011 08:45 PM

how the hell does Sheamus qualify as a minority?

Droford 06-11-2011 08:46 PM

doesn't the WWE recognize the WHC lineage back to WCW, which would mean the Ron Simmons won it too?

CSL 06-11-2011 08:47 PM

he's ginger

St. Jimmy 06-11-2011 08:48 PM

Rock is only 1/2 black.

Droford 06-11-2011 08:49 PM

and if we're just gonna start listing foreign guys that won the belt than why the fuck not say Bret Hart while you're at it?

Xero 06-11-2011 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 3550158)
doesn't the WWE recognize the WHC lineage back to WCW, which would mean the Ron Simmons won it too?

It depends on what you believe, really.

http://www.wwe.com/inside/titlehistory/worldheavyweight

That doesn't list it, and that's pretty official.

As far as I'm concerned, the WCW title was absorbed into the WWE Championship and the WHC just uses the same belt.

Xero 06-11-2011 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 3550162)
and if we're just gonna start listing foreign guys that won the belt than why the fuck not say Bret Hart while you're at it?

Dunno, really. Don't really see Canadians as minorities, unless they're French Canadians.

CSL 06-11-2011 08:52 PM

Warrior's the 'biggest' minority champion, not many folk from Parts Unknown get green cards

Fignuts 06-11-2011 08:53 PM

Pretty sure both titles are equal. Who fucking cares.

St. Jimmy 06-11-2011 08:54 PM

Alright then I'll make you a bet, if R-Truth wins the WWE title I will fuck Fangles fat sow of a wife.

Xero 06-11-2011 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 3550168)
Pretty sure both titles are equal. Who fucking cares.

Still doesn't take away from the fact that a black person has never won the WWE Championship, even if they are equal. Which I don't believe, because I believe the WWE Championship will always be the title in Vince's eyes, because it's his company's title.

St. Jimmy 06-11-2011 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3550170)
Still doesn't take away from the fact that a black person has never won the WWE Championship, even if they are equal. Which I don't believe, because I believe the WWE Championship will always be the title in Vince's eyes, because it's his company's title.

:y:

CSL 06-11-2011 08:58 PM

hang on, this was supposed to be a serious thread?

Xero 06-11-2011 08:58 PM

Obviously not, BUT NOW IT IS, SO GET OVER IT.

St. Jimmy 06-11-2011 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSL (Post 3550172)
hang on, this was supposed to be a serious thread?

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St. Jimmy 06-11-2011 09:01 PM

I'm still interested in how many people have been raped in the locker-room.

CSL 06-11-2011 09:01 PM

ahhh brilliant, an internet meme

Xero 06-11-2011 09:04 PM

Elmo is a black guy.

Cool King 06-11-2011 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSL (Post 3550177)
ahhh brilliant, an internet meme

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St. Jimmy 06-11-2011 09:04 PM

Elmo holds down talent, Grover is trying to get over like Zack Ryder

CSL 06-11-2011 09:07 PM

that's never going to attain 'internet meme' status with a black person in the picture with no watermelon, fried chicken or stolen bicycles

St. Jimmy 06-11-2011 09:09 PM

CSL is to posting what Alex Riley is to wrestling. YA HERD.

St. Jimmy 06-11-2011 09:10 PM

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Cool King 06-11-2011 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSL (Post 3550183)
that's never going to attain 'internet meme' status with a black person in the picture with no watermelon, fried chicken or stolen bicycles

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CSL 06-11-2011 09:15 PM

bike in the ring. bit dangerous.

MoFo 06-11-2011 09:23 PM

Lashley an Monty Brown would of won it if they'd stuck around.

Next Big Thing 06-11-2011 09:28 PM

Lashley definitely would have had a run as champ. Vince definitely loved his chocolate body. Other than that, I don't see any black guys on the current roster or in development that I would want to see as champ other than R-Truth.

erickman 06-11-2011 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Next Big Thing (Post 3550193)
Lashley definitely would have had a run as champ. Vince definitely loved his chocolate body. Other than that, I don't see any black guys on the current roster or in development that I would want to see as champ other than R-Truth.

yeah and what i hear vince has liked r-truth for a long time, so he may get a chance of winning the belt.

Triple Naitch 06-11-2011 09:41 PM

I still think Kofi has a chance at being a transitional/MITB champion for a brief time.

XCaliber 06-11-2011 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple Naitch (Post 3550200)
I still think Kofi has a chance at being a transitional/MITB champion for a brief time.

This and he will likely to be the one to defeat McIntyre or ADR once either of them defeats SuperCena eithey way it's bound to happen sooner or later.

St. Jimmy 06-11-2011 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSL (Post 3550187)
bike in the ring. bit dangerous.

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GD 06-12-2011 12:00 AM

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BollywoodSingh 06-12-2011 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSL (Post 3550138)
None of those were over. Bobo Brazil maybe.

Booker T wasn't over? He was one of the most over guys around 2002-2003.

Lock Jaw 06-12-2011 12:55 AM

The Back of Ezekiel Jackson's Head will win the WWE Title in 2013.

Lock Jaw 06-12-2011 12:56 AM

After turning heel on Zeke. And stealing his title shot.

Lock Jaw 06-12-2011 12:56 AM

Zeke vs The Back of His Own Head for Mania that year

Sixx 06-12-2011 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3550150)
The World Heavyweight Championship is the Minority Heavyweight Championship. Seriously.

Minorities who have held the World Heavyweight Championship, since its inception:

Goldberg
Rey Mysterio
Booker
Khali

List of WWE Champions who have been minorities, since its inception (40 years prior to the WHC):

Inoki (And I'm not sure if this is even recognized)
Iron Sheik
Andre (Not sure if this is officially recognized)
Yokozuna
The Rock
Eddie
Sheamus

Rock, Eddie and Sheamus are the only WWE Champion minorities since the WHC's inception. And in the WHC's 9 year existence, they've had 4. In the WWE Championship's 50 year existence, only seven have held it. That's less than two per decade.

The WHC is the minority title.

It's not like this guy practises Judaism or something.

I bet there are many more wrestlers with Jewish roots, his name just stands out.

Sixx 06-12-2011 01:27 AM

Oh, wait. He does practise Judaism, according to wiki.

Fuck.

SlickyTrickyDamon 06-12-2011 01:51 AM

Batista is Filipino/Greek but born in America.

The Naitch 06-12-2011 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erickman (Post 3550137)
booker but that was wcw

funny, out of both feds, WCW was always considered the most racist, compared to the liberal WWF/E

so IMO, Booker becoming the WCW Champ is a bigger accomplishment than most people think

Tazz Dan 06-12-2011 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero
WCW was a minority promotion though. Half their roster were Mexicans.

:shifty:

Nicky Fives 06-12-2011 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Naitch (Post 3550409)
funny, out of both feds, WCW was always considered the most racist, compared to the liberal WWF/E

so IMO, Booker becoming the WCW Champ is a bigger accomplishment than most people think

I think his was bigger because not only was he black, but he had been held down for a long time and theoretically deserved the belt a lot soone than he got it.....

Volare 06-12-2011 10:30 AM

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The Naitch 06-12-2011 11:33 AM

lol

The Naitch 06-12-2011 11:34 AM

Team Big Bird was on fire that year

Volare 06-12-2011 11:54 AM

That's the first one I've ever made, I was bored so I figured what the hell.

Volare 06-12-2011 01:00 PM

Well it makes sense, they broke Bert and Ernie up as a tag, and with Grouch going against Cookie monster in a series of Hardcore matches, and last month Count screwed Big Bird out of the title.

Shisen Kopf 06-12-2011 01:05 PM

Was the great ape Mizzark Henry EC dub champ?

Emperor Smeat 06-12-2011 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple Naitch (Post 3550200)
I still think Kofi has a chance at being a transitional/MITB champion for a brief time.

Wouldn't that make him more of a token champion than being an actual champion WWE would want to focus the show on?

It would be similar to Christian getting his token title reign as a way for the WWE to be able to show they at least gave him something even though nobody wanted him to be champion (ex. Vince).

erickman 06-12-2011 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Naitch (Post 3550409)
funny, out of both feds, WCW was always considered the most racist, compared to the liberal WWF/E

so IMO, Booker becoming the WCW Champ is a bigger accomplishment than most people think

well that was the russo era, i guess that is the only good thing about russo, he let r-truth get the nwa-tna belt too, crappy writer but lets the black man get a chance.

NormanSmiley 06-13-2011 01:35 AM

pretty sure all matters of racism expertise fall on
Shisen Kopf's shoulders around here

Shadrick 06-13-2011 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Next Big Thing (Post 3550193)
Lashley definitely would have had a run as champ. Vince definitely loved his chocolate body. Other than that, I don't see any black guys on the current roster or in development that I would want to see as champ other than R-Truth.

:wtf:


Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple Naitch (Post 3550200)
I still think Kofi has a chance at being a transitional/MITB champion for a brief time.

Yesss, lets hope.

Shadrick 06-13-2011 10:32 AM

Thread was about black champions, so, no there has never been a black WWE champion and no the WHC is not treated the same way.

When has the WWE Championship EVER been defended IN THE FIRST MATCH at a Wrestlemania? Exactly. Honestly, unless they swerve us and put the title on Truth, if even for a brief moment, Kofi is probably next in line to actually have a shot.

Rock Bottom 06-13-2011 01:28 PM

Rikishi saw this shit coming a long time ago.

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Rollermacka 06-14-2011 10:41 AM

I say give Justin Gabriel the WWE title, he's blacker than R-Truth can ever be :shifty:

Sixx 06-15-2011 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rollermacka (Post 3552288)
I say give Justin Gabriel the WWE title, he's blacker than R-Truth can ever be :shifty:

Well, he's from Africa.

Kane Knight 06-15-2011 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desi Munda (Post 3550305)

Not really black. :shifty:

VSG 06-15-2011 09:13 AM

Look who's back :love:


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