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Breaking Bad
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Recently rewatched all three seasons to get myself hyped.
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I can't wait.
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They still haven't shown season 3 in the UK. This show gets too little love over here.
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going to try and not watch any of it and watch them all at once or at least in blocks, can't just watch one ep at a time of this
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I recently watched the first three seasons for the first time. I'm seriously kicking myself because I finished it about 3 weeks ago, and I want it to continue now. Seriously one of the best "cliffhangers" I've ever seen on a show.
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dude, you got it easy. some of us have been waiting over a year :( |
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CAN'T FUCKING WAIT. Have not been so pumped for a show to start in a while. Probably my favorite TV show.
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STARTS TONIGHT
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Pretty awesome premiere - the first five minutes where we finally get to find out what happened after Jesse pulled the trigger were just amazing. Gus is obviously a ruthless son of a bitch and is going to be the next "problem" that Walt and Jesse have to solve. Still not entirely sure why he did what he did to his second-hand man like that, but maybe they'll get more into that next episode.
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Probably because he was seen at the crime scene :-\
And to show how bad ass he is :D |
Yeah. I think it was a couple things. First, the guy fucked up. He got himself seen. Second, it shows that NOBODY is immune. Showed that he will straight fuck someone's shit up even if they've been really loyal before, if they so much as fuck up. Third, I think it was almost a sign to them.. saying like "Ok, now NOBODY knows anything about your recipe. Start cooking."
But there's no way Walt and Jesse are going to keep working for this guy. Unless things are actually way better than Gus is acting. I mean, he wants the product. Maybe Jesse will quit fucking everything up and things will go good for a little while. |
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I thought the premiere was good b/c it showed more backstory of how the lab was built and why Gus valued Gail so much. Interesting too that Gail's product wasn't as pure as Walt's. Gus clearly was sending Walt and Jesse a message with Victor that now that Gail is dead, they are his till they die. I know I was shocked to see Jesse's reaction to Gus killing Victor. Almost looked like he was smiling or smurking when it went down. For all of Walt's supposed genius, it appears that Jesse gets the business side of the drug system more than Walt. Walt didn't even eat after he saw it, meanwhile Jesse was starving. So, it will be an interesting dynamic to see the transition of Walt and Jesse from scared normal ppl to badass drug kingpins... |
Scene with Gus was amazing. I guessed what he was going to do shortly after he started, but it still had me transfixed.
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Well that was gory
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It'll be interesting to see where they go from here. Eventually, I bet Walt and Jesse will become the top drug kingpins and Gus will die... |
Next week's preview seems to suggest that Walt and Jesse are beginning to put together a plan to kill Gus. I really do feel bad for the character of Gale - the guy was probably the biggest geek/pansy in the world, and he never would have hurt a fly, but he got shot in the eyeball anyways. The opening scene of the premiere really had me feeling for him.
I think it's going to be interesting to see where Jesse goes from here. His whole attitude after killing Gale suggests that a part of Jesse really is dead - his innocence is really, really gone now, and his attempts at keeping some "good" in him and not slipping down the heartless, destructive path of breaking bad will be interesting to watch. I think that might be why he was less fazed by the throat slitting than Walt was - Jesse just shot an innocent dude in the eye ball. Walt has killed before, but he's never had to look someone in the eyes and pull the trigger. He doesn't know what that feels like yet. Can't wait for the next episode. |
During the course of this show it seems to me that Jesse probably would never have "fallen"/"descended into badness" as much as he has if not for the influence of Walt.
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With Gus killing Victor, I wonder if the lab notes left at Gale's place implicated Victor or Gus in some way. It would stand to reason if Victor was so upset after finding Gale that he knew he was in too deep to survive. Finally, it does seem like Walt and Jesse are reaching a point of no return. Both keep having to make ruthless choices in order to stay alive or keep their dealings a secret. In the process both are losing whatever innocence they once had. I like how their characters are constantly evolving. It's clear once they elimate Gus, they are gonna be on the fast track to controlling all the drug activity. Ironic too that Walt was compared to Gus by Saul initially. In the end, I bet he'll be Gus. And Jesse will either be crazy or Scarface by the end... |
Season 4 had a great start.
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The chicken man is fucking scary to me now after how this season started. |
I want to download each ep and then watch in blocks too. That's how I usually like to watch shows, but I never have the willpower to do it for this show. Still hoping Skyler dies ugly for the shit shes put Walt through.
I can't help but wonder how much longer this show can go though based on its premise. |
Pretty awesome episode last night. Jesse is fucking LOSING IT. I love the final shot of him in his trashed house alone, staring off, obviously totally fucked in the head from having shot Gale and all the other insane shit that's happened to him recently. I wouldn't be surprised if this ended up being Jesse's last season. I feel like they're going to push him so far over the edge this season that by the end, we'll WANT for him to die so he doesn't have to suffer the pain of life anymore.
Walt's actions didn't really sit too well with me though. He should be smarter than trying to kill Gus in the lab, or trying to get Mike to help him with the hit. Walt should know that Gus is two steps ahead of him and if Walt is ever going to get out from under Gus' thumb, he's going to have to come up with some kind of brilliant plan. |
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The most amazing thing about this show is that even filler episodes focused more on progressing side stories are intriguing. Hank's about to be a game changer.
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Screaming Go-Karts. :y:
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Damn. That last episode. :y:
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I swear that show is damn near perfect. It's like Jesus... It just can't do anything wrong.
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Just can't believe it. Leaves you wanting more every single week without being too 'shocking' all the time. SPOILER: show |
They aren't going to kill Jesse unless the show is ending or Aaron Paul wants out. The guy won an Emmy.
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Yeah that's what I figure. But at some point I have to wonder just how far he is going to be pushed. He's been taking nothing but punches this whole show and I have to wonder with how steep a dive he's taken this season just how it's going to end up for him.
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I was thinking that if any member of the immediate family was expendable it would be his brother or sister-in-law.
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I'm really starting to think that Skyler might become more of a queenpin type character as the season progresses. Everything from the car wash idea to the gambling story to the fake tears during the dinner suggests to me that she's becoming a bit more conniving.
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I'm kind of surprised that Walt hasn't taken better to her involving herself. I mean, I know he thought he had it all under control on his own, and you can see how agitated he gets when she talks about all of it. But at the same time, they got married for a reason and it seems that her intelligence and attention to detail may be something they both really have in common without realizing it. Like, they are really more alike than he would like to admit, and if she is willing to disregard the fact that he makes crystal meth then there should be a little something of a new spark there in their relationship.
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Do you think Skyler is going to be what ends up saving Walt from Gus? I could see her coming up with some brilliant plan all of a sudden, or actually speaking with Gus face to face and changing everything.
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Reading everything you guys write makes me love this show even more. So many ways they can go, who knows. Best show I've ever seen.
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The latest episode is the "quickest" I remember a 41-42 minute show passing by because I was "engrossed". When Mike and Jessie are driving down the road and the show ends, I was amazed/disappointed that there wasn't another 10-15 minutes left.
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Finally got to watch the most recent episode... pretty unbelievable stuff. First of all, I knew Mike was a bad ass, but this last episode really pushed that to the limit. Mike is not to be fucked with.
I really like what they're doing with Skylar. It makes you wonder how well Walt really knew her after all. I mean, if she's this willing to go this far, why the hell didn't he tell her about this whole operation a long time ago? She's the perfect partner for him. I guess it just plays into his whole thing about not wanting help from anyone. The end is probably the best cliffhanger BB has had since Walt and Jesse found themselves in a car with Tuco at the end of Season 1. I can't wait to find out where this goes. I can't believe Jesse is going to die, as, like someone else said, he JUST won an Emmy and they're not going to get rid of his character in the 5th episode of the new season. There's also no way he's killing Mike - another extremely important and engaging character to the story. The ending reminds me of Mike's story about when he was a cop from "Half Measures." He takes this guy out into the middle of nowhere and threatens him with his life to stop beating up on his girlfriend, but then the guy killed her the following week anyways. At that point Mike decided no more half measures. Is it possible that Mike is going to threaten Jesse in a similar fashion? The fact that Jesse clearly doesn't care anymore - about his money, about his job or about his life - is obvious to everyone, including Mike, so he can't really think that threatening to kill Jesse will do anything. I think they could take it another direction and maybe Mike threatens to hurt Jesse's family, his little brother or his parents, if he keeps fucking up. If you can't get to the kid's mind, maybe Mike can get to his heart. I love this fucking show. |
I wonder if Mike won't just sit down and have a serious talk about what Jessie did. Maybe he realizes he's never killed anyone like that. Who knows what Mike was like earlier in his life.. he couldn't have always been this cold blooded. Maybe he's just taking him out to show him something important.
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Yeah, Mike is not a monster. Seems like an ex-cop or ex-military who is just used to violence. I don't know if I see Skyler saving Walt from Gus. She knows he cooks meth but doesn't know about a lot of things. She seems pretty clean compared to Walt, like she doesn't yet "get" it. In that regard I wouldn't think she's in a position to save him, but who knows.
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Love the show, hate the wife.
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would watch a whole show about Mike
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just been renewed for a 16 episode final season
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Was Skyler still sleeping with Ted before she asked Walt to move back in? I remember the scene in the bed room where Walt asked about the smell of the sheets and she said it was a new fabric softener and then he seemed to lose it after seeing the Beneke coffee cup. |
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LOST had an ending planned from the start, what are you talking about? I'm sure there were stories in there that they didn't intend from the start, and they had to change details as they went because of casting issues, or stories simply not able to be panned out as they planned, but the show had a direction from the start. If anything, they only suffered because of a badly timed writer's strike.
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Also, I'll be sad to see this show end, but I hope that knowing its ending point allows them to fill the final season with epicness.
My only question - will Walt die of cancer, be killed by his decisions, or go to prison? Those finishes will either justify his actions, or vilify him. |
He'll be executed
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It is my opinion that the end of the series pretty much has to have Walt dying in some way.
Jesse lives on. |
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I'm just saying that I'm glad Breaking Bad isn't going to suffer the same fate. |
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I think it'd be the best way to end the series. It would really push the point that no matter what, "breaking bad" is not the way to get ahead in life, and that Walter's real problems have always been his massive ego. |
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I can't help but feel like between now and the end of the series a major character close to Walt like Skyler or his son is going to end up killed and that is going to be the beginning of the end for one side or the other. |
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Also, what RoXer said. Have you ever actually read, in detail, the LOST wiki? There is such an absurd amount of detail (and yes, SOME unanswered questions, which are completely unimportant in the grand scheme of things). But the amount of questions that were answered, or things that were purposely left to speculate on, are in the hundreds, if not thousands. This show could not have finished in 3 seasons. Guarantee it, so I do not believe wherever you supposedly 'heard' that from, as this is literally the first time I ever heard that it was supposed to be 3 seasons, and I spent countless hours upon hours reading into this show. Some 'person' telling you this or whatever, does not evidence make. Sounds to me like you are simply disappointed with its ending, and thus think a large portion of the content was filler. But from the perspective of someone who very much loved the ending, (it grew on me, as I was left a bit underwhelmed at first), I see that the content of this show had every bit of a purpose. Probably the only characters that were developed with no payoff, were Walt, whom simply aged and the writers were unable to tie up properly. (He still had a major role in the story) And then those 2 diamond schmucks, whom the audience hated so much that the writers simply wrote them out. There was also an issue with Anna Lucia's character because she got in trouble off-set, so they had to write her out as well IIRC. You say filler episodes, and I'm sure there were a couple.. but there was never a single episode that didn't tie in in some way to what was going on. Something that happened, was meant to make you think/ponder and tie it to the events. Seriously, browse the LOST wiki, or simply watch this show again from a new perspective. I have seen all the episodes about 3 times now, and while it wasn't the perfect show, it was incredible, and there will never be anything like it again, and that saddens me. |
Also, every single one of the MAIN characters, were tied up beautifully. Some of the 'side' characters didn't serve a role in the ending, but they served their purpose during the life of the show. But ALL of the main characters' stories were tied up at the end.
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RoXer and Requiem are to LOST like Kalyx is to fighting games. Don't get them started
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I would like to see Mr. White run down Matthew Fox in his Aztek.
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Only just started watching this. Just finished season 2.
I'm happy to see Roxer and Req defending Lost also. |
GOD Skyler is a cunt.
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Spoiler alert, Jimmy.
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She really is a dumb bitch.
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She finds out her unemployed, cancer stricken husband is cooking meth so his family has enough money to survive when he dies and reacts by fucking her boss and kicking him out of his own house.
Granted, Walt's recent actions were a bit off but I think that goes to further the storyline of him losing it. |
I think if she does eventually bite it, not likely, Walt will end up like this:
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Feel like you are watching a different show or something. Like, in no way have they made Walt out to be a hero, IMO. He started as a cancer stricken man doing this to provide for his family, but he has gone way beyond that. He is addicted to who he has become.
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He has certainly taken a darker turn the past season and a half, but initially Walt was compelled to start cooking because of his dire circumstances and desire to support his family. He wasn't splurging on himself and tried to keep his cooking a secret early on. He didn't want notoriety or glory. The incident with Tuco ruined that. His actions are not heroic, but it is understandable from his perspective.
I'm just saying that you would think as his wife, Skyler would be more understanding considering the circumstances that led him to doing what he has and not react to the extent she has at times. SPOILER: show |
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Like, he feels his choices are justified. He told their son that he stands by his decisions and that it wasn't an addiction. But I think that's because he doesn't want to admit it to himself.
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Really love this show. Don't think there's many shows on the air still that make you really think about the deeper impact and reasoning behind decisions that a character has made. The writers are fantastic. :y: And he is a great actor to be able to create this kind of debate. Walt is just a really complicated character.
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I must agree with Req though. From very early on in the series I think it has been shown that Walt enjoys "breaking bad" and is addicted to it.
I think the real interesting thing over the course of the show is Walt's descent into darkness, and his relationship with Jesse. Jesse is nowhere near Walt's level. It almost seemed like at several points in the series that Jesse could have potentially have gone out of the business... but he is always pulled back in to it by Walt, and finds himself being dragged down by Walt ever further. I mean, pretty much everything bad that has happened to Jesse, or his friends, has been because of Walt's greed for more money/power/respect. Culminating of course with Walt digging himself in such a hole that Jesse has to kill Gale for him. Which seems to have set Jesse off the the hinge. |
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I don't quite agree with people's opinion of Skylar. I think her running off to fuck her boss after finding out the truth was a bit drastic, but it was a very human choice for the writers to make. It didn't make sense in any way except that she was looking for an escape, and this good-looking, charming, nice, rich man who was nothing but nice to her was the perfect escape from the insanity her life had become. She's also been very logical this entire season (except for the coin, but we'll get to that). Walt buying his son the Corvette was fucking STUPID. Possibly the stupidest thing this extremely intelligent man has done up to this point; a total disregard for the story he and Skylar came up with, a total disregard for the possibility of being audited by the IRS, and basically just a totally ridiculous thing to do. Skylar's reaction was RIGHT. Her decision to leave the house for a day or two was right as well - she just found out that her husband is a murderer. We've known it since Season 1 - she's just finding out in Season 4. We're used to the fact that Walt has done terrible things, has killed people, seen people die without doing a thing to help, and has ordered men to die by others. We've come to accept that it's part of his journey, but Skylar is just discovering it, and it terrified her. It was the logical reaction to leave. The coin flip is interesting. "Fate" provided her the chance to leave for Colorado, but she moved the coin back to New Mexico because somewhere inside of her, she loves this too. Skylar is slowly breaking bad. She's apparently accepted that Walt is a killer, and is seemingly willing to stick around and keep this thing going. The situation with Jesse and Mike is also very interesting. I believe that Walt is right - Gus is trying to turn them against each other, and maybe, just maybe, is planning to get rid of the much smarter, scheming, devious Walter in favor of Jesse. Perhaps he believes Jesse can be more easily bent to his will, that Jesse can teach someone else the formula and then Gus can be done with them both forever. My prediction (which has almost always been wrong in regards to this show) is that Mike comes to actually really like Jesse, and when the time comes for him to "get rid of Jesse" at Gus' request, he makes the choice to save Jesse and kill Gus instead. This would leave Walt, Jesse and Mike running the business, and then in Season 5 they go up against the Mexican Cartel and a newly-walking Hank. I love this fucking show. |
I can definitely see Skyler beginning to embrace it more as time goes. She's shown her ability to be a "boss" type in her dealings with the lawyer and car wash owner, not to mention the story itself was her idea.
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New episode premieres tonight. Any predictions?
Something tells me that tonight's episode is going to be the "1 Minute" of season 4 - it's been relatively lax for the past few episodes and nothing too "shocking" has really happened since Gus slit that guy's throat in Ep1. I'm not sure what it's going to be, but I have a feeling something BIG is going down tonight and it will be a "Holy Shit!" episode. |
Gus did tell Mike to set up a meeting with the Mexicans at the end of the last episode. Could be interesting.
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Oh shit.
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What were the Mexicans asking for in the meeting? Walt? Hank?
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Have a feeling that Gus is gonna go on a rampage soon.
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The things is how is Ted any better then Walt, prob worse... wasn't he also cheating on his wife and a white collor criminal cooking the books. It seems walt is doing it for his family because he was thinking death was around the corner yet Ted is doing it out of pure greed(from what I've come to gather, he isnt hurting financialy and isnt dying nor does he give a fuck about his wife). |
Ted was divorced, and said he was doing it to keep the company afloat, and not have to lay off a whole lot of people.
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Kind of funny if you think about it. He was cooking books to keep his business afloat and Walt was cooking meth to keep his family afloat. I think Walt was still fighting the cancer or in the early stages of recovery and relatively small time at that point.
Hank might be the only character on this show with clean hands. |
He did beat the shit out of Jesse and have his badge taken away.
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Hank also showed a total lack of discipline when he was searching for Jesse's RV, illegally spying on innocent civilians in a trailer park. |
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Yeah I really don't think he did it on purpose.
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Like, there is really NO reason at all he would want to purposely incriminate himself and get the DEA interested in him. It would serve absolutely no purpose.
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Gus is not The Riddler.
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still, is one better then the other? I think that one could go for debate. |
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no he's more bad ass... Unrelated: my dad used to be drinkning buddies with one of the two guys who played ridler in the batman movie/old school show. The first one (movie guy and i guess the first few seasons of the show) |
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