Sin Cara Suspended for Wellness Violation
 

From http://www.wwe.com/superstars/smackd...cara-suspended:

STAMFORD, Conn. – In accordance with its Talent Wellness Program, WWE has suspended Luis Ignascio Urive Alvirde (Sin Cara) for 30 days for his first violation of the company’s policy.

haha

He botches everything else. Now he's botched wellness.

He's taking HHH's tutelage to heart.

Well, that's kind of sad. I'm sure this will cool his jets a little bit, and to be honest, that makes me a little happy. I hope he pulls his shit together, but I'd like to see him work with some under-card guys, get the feel a little bit, and then move up when he's more of a lovable underdog.

Always thought there was something suspicious about his interest in blue lighting.

He should have been sent to FCW in the first place. With FCW in place, there's no excuse for someone to come on TV and need to "learn the WWE style" if they don't already get it.

Was just coming to post this, lol. Just, L OH L.

So THAT'S why he got written off at the PPV!

Love Trips, but he's 0 for 2 at this point.

They just put it right on their website? That's fucked up.

Hope they give Evan Bourne this guy's push now.

Love Trips, but he's 0 for 2 at this point.

who was his other pick?

Kharma.

Kharma is on medical leave, leave the pregnant woman alone

*sigh*

Explains the bump he took last night.

I'm waiting for this Mistico guy I've seen on youtube to stand up. As Sin Cara, all he's done so far is look nervous as hell 50% of the time he's in the ring, and now this.

Ha.

hahaha gutted.

Trips must be embaressed.

Well this is unexpected. Also what was with the new white attire last night?

guess he is going to inpact wrestling soon with chavo

Is this what they normally do when someone screws up on wellness? Put it right on their website? Seems a little harsh to me.

Yeah, Sin Cara is a complete moron if he jacked this up so early and with so much support from the WWE, but still, a suspension is bad enough. Openly telling the world about a wellness violation is a little bit fucked up.

Then again, so are dead/OD'd wrestlers, but still.

I think it's part of their wellness policy that any violations are made public. There hasn't been one for a while, but I'm certain that its mandatory for them to be announced on the webpage quietly.

They may have thought it was a good day to bury bad news with all the attention on the fallout from MITB.

I'm fairly sure WWE has made this a common issue. Albeit Sin Cara is under the wing of Triple H, Trips has to let Sin Cara fail on his own.

Like Chavo Classic said, it's mandatory. They're required announce all wellness violations on their website.

Sometimes they only put it on the corporate website, and sometimes it's on both. But they always post it.

It's apart of being a publicly traded company, I guess. If they don't reveal these things, questions are going to be asked. Plus they're always under the microscope from the Government on this type of thing.

I don't have a problem with it at all. It publicly embarrasses them. If they do it again, they're morons. If they do it a third time, they're fired, and deserve it.

Any news on what the violation was?

Couldn't agree more with this. Huge mistake to rush him to the main roster. Maybe there is a chance they'll do this once the suspension is up. He did seem to be improving to an extent, I didn't notice any botches from his brief involvement in mitb last night.

Anyone who violates the wellness violates deserves to be embarrassed.

Sin Cara was getting pushed, despite his size or because of it. He was stupid to have done what he did.

And now for something completely different.

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Could be bogus. They were having issues getting the name Sin Cara trademarked. Not a smart smoke screen, but it could be one.

Didn't take him long. Personally I didn't care much for his work and the fact they acted like he was the only guy who could do that flippy shit. Half of TNAs roster must be Sin Cara.

I highly doubt a corporation is going to put on their corporate website false information about their wellness policy, which could arguably amount to securities fraud, because they want to cover up some trademark issues that aren't a big deal...

Hopefully when he comes back, he will have a little bit of direction and also calms down a bit. I thought they "took him out" of last nights match because they didn't trust him to be involved in the match past the point he had made. Very silly what with him being HHH's first signing.

Trips now knows to go to meetings with a cup in his pocket.

I bet they found those drugs that mask illegal drugs in drug tests..

In an Ideal world your first drug violation would get your VISA pulled.

Yeah, the dude is definately overrated in the high flying dept. They react as if he's the only one capable of doing moves we've seen for years. Most of it is the type of stuff Mysterio was doing back in ECW and WCW. Not to mention guys in TNA have pulled off his manuevers more effectively.

Seriously though, telling us his suspension is due to anabolic steroids? The guy's like 5'5 and 180 lbs, ya think he's juicing? Sounds like a convient way for WWE to punish him for not being able to adapt to the WWE quickly...

Regardless of what the internet marks say, WWE are clearly quite high on Sin Cara and as I said, he is HHH's boy, hence the story of HHH taking him under his wing.

Now I don't know what constitutes a violation of the WWE Wellness Programme but do you think William Regal looks like a guy who has been doing steroids throughout his career?

Some sources are apparently saying Sin Cara might not be brought back?

Sort of surprised but it also does explain him getting hurt during the ppv was more to write him off than him actually being hurt.

It wouldn't make sense for the WWE to just drop him after hyping him up a lot and him only being on the roster for such a short period of time even if he was too green or nervous in the ring.

I think we can all agree that Sin Cara has been a big disappointment.

I would guess it's for pain pills, I dont know how often he would have worked in Mexico but it was probably less dates than hes working now. All those flippy bumps rack up.

Time for a completely random unrelated story. Supposedly, in 05 Hector Garza was getting ready for a comeback run in TNA but he ended up getting in trouble for steroids that are "legal in Mexico". Maybe he was taking something he's been taking for years and didn't know. From what I've heard, the FDA is currently tightening up its regulations and banning more supliments

I have no idea why the WWE is so high on Sin Cara. He's doing the most basic of high flying moves, but they act like he's an innovator, which he's not. Ppl in TNA and even as far back as ECW and WCW were doing the same type of moves, only better. In this instance, if he hadn't been HHH's first aquisition, he'd be gone by now. Maybe back when he was Mystico he was doing unique work, but in WWE he's overrated big time.

My point before was it's obvious Sin Cara is using steroids, so it's no surprize he was busted for it. Some guys like Regal aren't as apparent steroid users, so it's more shocking when they are caught.

You know that steroids don't ALWAYS make you bigger, right? IE, Shawn Michaels, track runners, etc...depending on your diet and your workout it CAN make you quicker/faster.

Funny everyone thinks 'roids in and of themselves make you instantly huge. If that were the case, almost every severely astmatic kid would be running around looking like Mr. Olympia.

He's probably been roiding to get himself into WWE shape.

Exactly. What seems to be one of the top complaints about some of the guys, no matter how good of a performer they are? "Too small". Jericho got it. I'm very sure Punk's gotten it. Low-Ki and Danielson both got it. Mysterio is a hell of a lot bigger now than he was in WCW, and he still gets comments about being small, and not all of them are directed at his height.

Then, we get all dramatically gaspy and ready to brow beat someone when they decide to get on the gas to help change that and we find out about it.

This. The WWE environment requires a certain look, sad to say. And the easiest way to get there is with the gas.

Lance Cade was more or less told that he had to roid to get into the WWE.

And let's not forget about Chris Masters, here...

Kharma was a great idea. Also, wasn't Sheamus his idea too?

Yeah, but in this case, it's apparent he's abusing steroids. Having a smaller frame always accentuates muscle mass. It's just like what happened to Mysterio. When he came to WWE, he gained probably 20-30 lbs. of muscle. Being 5'4" and 175 lbs. isn't your average weight for that size. For that height, it's actually way over average. And the same goes for Sin Cara. So, when Mysterio was implicated in the big steroid scandal in 2005, it wasn't a shocker. And neither is it now when Sin Cara is linked to anabolic steroids.

In Shawn Michaels' case, I'd be more skeptical of heavy steroid use b/c he's an average looking guy. Being 5'10" and 185 lbs is closer to normal than other, more obvious steroid users. Not saying he wasn't using, but he was a guy that didn't look out of proportion for his size. Sin Cara sticks out more since he looks out of proportion for a smaller guy...

I intentially forgot Chris Masters. The only reason he got his foot in the door and that damned 8 minute long "Masterpiece" entrance was because of his blantantly 'roided physique. His ring work was the screaming shits, and it was still more exciting than his [sarcasm]super charismatic gimmick[/sarcasm]. It was even worse with that whole "LEANER/MEANER" crap they tried to pass off when he was obviously off of the juice in the wake of scandal. His gimmick was his body, and then without that, he was just a terrible CAW with a barebones default moveset.

I begrudgingly admit he's gone from fucking terrible to mildly passable in the ring... but better people have been hired and future endeavored in that time. Hell, in my opinion, Kelly Kelly has gotten better than this clown in the ring. He should be the poster child of why they even deal with FCW.

From the front page:

"Sin Cara, who was suspended Monday by WWE for violating their Talent Wellness Program, spoke to Mexican newspaper The Record to claim his innocence.

The masked grappler says he was informed by WWE officials that he tested positive for steroids. He requested clarification on the matter and noted that he would be meeting with company officials this week.

Cara said many medications contain steroids and he believes a routine injection to his knee to alleviate persistent pain triggered a false positive. He denied taking steroids, noting that he wasn’t built like a person who used them.

Regarding his real name being made public, which is considered taboo in lucha libre, the SmackDown! Superstar said it was wrong but fans are more interested in seeing his face.

The full article, which contains audio, is available at http://www.record.com.mx/"

kind of odd they suspend someone right away without getting a second test done to confirm the first. but then i guess that costs even more money, or they don't trust their employees

Yeah well this ain't lucha libre anymore. Just ask Oscar Gutierrez.

Wonder if this had anything to do with the decision to give Daniel Bryan MITB.

I mention Chris Masters because he is PROOF that WWE Wellness is a Crock of Shit. He followed their provisions and was jobbed and openly ridiculed for doing so.

Double-sided bull shit from the WWE.

Maybe you shouldn't make it public then, you fucking morons. Don't care how much of a "screw-up" Sin Cara is. If you make it public, and he tries to defend himself, don't cry about it.

Well, you can't expect a guy who potentially could lose his job to keep quiet about why it happened. WWE pretty much wants all media about them to be one sided, when it's their fault as much as Sin Cara's. You can't blame a guy for being a steroid abuser and not get his side of the story.

As far as the Wellness Policy being discussed publicly, isn't that the point of instituting it??? To be honest with the media about their wrestlers being clean and healthy? Of course, like all things WWE, it's used politically. Guys are made examples of that don't hurt WWE's bottom line. You'll never see guys like Cena or Orton be busted for steroid use b/c they are too valuable to lose. I suppose it's a coincidence that Sin Cara happened to be caught when he was in the doghouse with WWE:n:

The only Mexicans I want on my TV are Alberto and Ricardo.

Oh, you mean the boring Mexicans:rofl:

How is Del Rio boring?

The problem with Sin Cara is that WWE created such high expectations from the first day he was on tv, that fans were expecting him to blow their minds off everytime he wrestled. They didn't give him an opportunity to wrestle some matches, get comfortable with the WWE style of wrestling, with being on tv, etc. And being a luchador whose character doesn't speak, he doesn't have the luxury of getting on the mic, either, so only his wrestling does the talking. So if he messes up or has "so-so" matches while he gets comfortable, he doesn't have luxury of getting on the mic and kinda "hide" behind his talking.

All cruiserweights who "made it big", like Rey Mysterio Jr, Eddie Guerrero and Y2J, were given an opportunity to kind of "fly under the radar" as they established themselves, and only after some time was the spotlight put on them. Sin Cara didn't have that opportunity.

DESTINY. WINK. SMILE. WINK.

Gee, let me think, his whole freaking gimmick. He has the right look for WWE, but personality wise the guy's a snorefest. JBL did the gimmick much better and was way more entertaining. Seeing Juan Bradshaw Layfield isn't my idea of quality entertainment:nono:

He gives the same 18 minute promo every single show, every single week for the last year. If you don't think thats boring there is something wrong with you.

I believe that description would be the very definition of boring.

And inaccurate.

They have to. Unless they want more Congressional investigations, they have to keep their policy completely transparent. If they call out their guys for violating the policy, it accomplishes two things:

1) They can stay ahead of the story, instead of having to react.
2) Hopefully it gives the violator a shot in the ass (pun only slightly intended) to stop using.

WTF? How is that inaccurate when it sums up Del Rio perfectly...

When has Del Rio ever had an 18-minute segment? In fact, I honestly don't remember him cutting more than three or four promos period since being drafted to Raw.

Maybe he doesn't get 18 minutes, that is an exaggeration. He's been saying that same predictable stuff and isn't very original. That's the reason he's boring...

Well he is not really giving much of a character to go off of since moving to Raw. Once creative writes something new for him he will take off with it. Only problem is R-Truth happened.

Del Rio never had much of a character to begin with. Not once has the guy impressed me thus far. His brother ring announcer, Ricardo has more personality than Del Rio. Seriously, what do ppl see in Del Rio other than a waste of time and energy?

I respect Del Rio for one reason:

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He got in a ring with Cro Cop in his prime.

But being successful in MMA and WWE are two complete opposites. In MMA, personality isn't an issue if you can fight. In WWE, if you have the same boring character, fans hate you. Which is fine as long as Del Rio is heel, but not so great when he attempts to turn face...

I'm saying nothing about his character, dude.

I'm saying that I respect him because he got in the ring with Mirko FUCKING Cro Cop and took a fucking kick to the head.

To each his own, but it'll take more than a kick to the head for him to impress me. Of course, I suppose it would help if I were more of a MMA fan...

But his character has nothing to do with him as a wrestler really. He delivers on the microphone in his 3 to 4 minute segments and has the ability to generate main event heat in such a short time period. Maybe his character is lame, but that is the same thing as saying John Cena sucks because he has had the same character for 30 years.

Well, his character certainly dresses as if he were 30 years younger.

For me, he sucks as a wrestler and a character. As a wrestler, he hasn't shown any improvement in his in ring work. On the mic, he does the same tired speech every week, and it's a borefest. Certainly he hasn't shown anything to suggest he's worthy of a major title push. It's arguable too that the reason he generates so much heat is b/c he's being shoved down the fans throat. Which is fine, until he's turned face, and no one cares about him...

If you don't like Alberto Del Rio then you don't know shit about wrestling. He's classic. He's one of a fucking kind, and I'll tell you why. He is RAW he is viscous and knows how to fight and it seems like he is out to rip your fucking arm off when your in the ring with him. I guarantee you he's one of the stiffest guys in WWE right now, he is the definition of a professional wrestler. Fuck you if you think otherwise.

By the way, dream match, Bret Hart (circa mid 90's) vs Alberto Del Rio, damn that would have been fucking amazing.

Oh wait, what the fuck? Dream Match, Austin (90's) vs Del Rio, suck it, it rocks.

Of the river is great. And I have to 100% agree with fragile x

Yet another stupid mark who tries to force his views on others. Just b/c I point out Del Rio's flaws, I don't know wrestling? Fuck you pal, I've watched almost 20 years and don't need a lecture about talent. Del Rio has no talent that I've seen. His character and in ring work are about as stale as you can get. Nothing original from him, only the same redundant routine. If it wasn't for his MMA background and his family having ties to the WWE, he never would've been signed. Without those, he's a run of the mill wrestler with no obvious talent to speak of. You wanna blindly mark out for him, more power to you. But don't tell me you know the definition of pro wrestler and I don't. Cause Del Rio sure as hell isn't the embodiment of that. Guys like Bret Hart, Owen Hart, Chris Jericho, Kurt Angle, Chris Benoit, Steve Austin, The Rock and The Undertaker are guys that embody talent. To suggest Del Rio is carrying on wrestling tradition is laughable. I bet in another few years, he'll be gone from wrestling and yet another talentless guy who couldn't cut it in pro wrestling.

Del Rio and dream match are two words that don't go together. Especially since he's a MMA guy who hasn't been able to adapt successfully to wrestling. Maybe he was a big deal in MMA, but in wrestling, he's a guy that hasn't show any potential thus far...

My only bone to pick with that logic is that they are firing him for trying to defend himself about the issue. This is really fucked up, they are shitting all over this guy.

Eh, ADR was one of the most famous wrestlers in Mexico supposedly, I doubt he'd end up at a McDonald's. This guy isn't an American wrestler either, he's handling the adjustment well and he's even stated that he loves the WWE because he feels like he's learning to become a "real wrestler."

As far as the rest, ADR is one of the things that keeps me watching, but I'm not gonna jump into an argument about it at this point.

I just wanted to say that MMA is for Men who enjoy the taste of another Man's Penis. Men would describe the taste similar to that of a wine or a fine cheese like:

I keep hearing how famous he was in Mexico. I get the style is different in WWE, but thus far he hasn't been impressive at all. While I think saying he'll end up at McDonald's is exaggerating, I don't think he'll last in WWE if he can't make the transition easily. Look at Sin Cara, he was adjusting too, and now he may not be coming back after one violation of the Wellness Policy.

Bottom line, there's a reason WWE has decided NOT to make him champion on three different occasions. As far as I can see, that is the right call. Until he can start making improvements in his character and in ring work, I doubt WWE would use him. Maybe if he adjusts more to the WWE style, he'll improve. For now though, I can't see why there is so much hype for the guy...

I know you repeat yourself a lot on here, but that's just silly.

Also, whilst I'm not hight on ADR personally, I can see why others are and I can see why WWE are.

Your claims that he is ill-adjusted to the WWE style are kinda outlandish.