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Rollermacka 08-03-2011 01:08 PM

has Santino run his course? (to the non 5 year old wrestling fan)
 
To an adult wrestling fan, do you think that Santino has run his course (he's just become childish comedic relief) or do you still find his antics funny? I liked him with Vladimir, he made Vlady a lot more tolerable, but now that he teamhas split I think he's just completely used as a comedic filler that appeals to WWEs child demographic

Anybody Thrilla 08-03-2011 01:13 PM

I think he serves a purpose. He's essentially like a more legit Hornswoggle. I really liked him during that Sheamus/Morrison feud where Morrison kept saving him from ass beatings. If they give him something meaningful to do, he's fine. He just needs some direction for his comedy.

captaincharismark 08-03-2011 01:14 PM

I think Santino's comedy routine has long ago ran it's course. The fans love it, but it's limiting any potential the guy has. We'll never get to see if he can do any great things in WWE if he's stuck as the running joke of WWE.

I actually went to a live WWE event in Memphis a few years ago, and Santino looked burned out and running through the motions of his gimmick. Apparently, even he's tired of it as well. He wasn't even smiling at times in the ring and on the ramp. And with good reason, since he was the appointed ref in a divas tag match...

Anybody Thrilla 08-03-2011 01:26 PM

Maybe he wasn't smiling because he takes his role as a referee in a monumental divas tag confrontation very seriously...as he should.

whiteyford 08-03-2011 01:28 PM

It gives him an identity if nothing else. He doesn't make me want to change the channel, his comedy stuffs usually quite short and he's decent enough in the ring.

Anybody Thrilla 08-03-2011 01:29 PM

Seriously though, I really think that Santino can still be entertaining if he has an actual storyline. Making fun of Steve Austin...The Honk-o-meter...feuding with Lawler...Santina, to an extent...when he actually has something to DO, I think he's quite funny.

I could definitely see him being bored and burnt out now though, seeing as to how he's had nothing relevant to do for quite some time.

Hanso Amore 08-03-2011 01:53 PM

WHen did the Mr Socko Cobra start?

#BROKEN Hasney 08-03-2011 01:56 PM

Not even in the slightest.

Gertner 08-03-2011 02:59 PM

The Cobra thing I believe started last week on Superstars in his tag match with Masters against Nexus.

Santino's hilarious, and there will always be a place for a comedy guy in the WWE. I'm actually excited to see some promos with Ryder if they stay together. They have the potential to provide some funny stuff. Hell, Santino is "Italian" and Ryder's whole Jersey Shore type gimmick is tailor made for Santino to be funny.

JimmyMess 08-03-2011 03:07 PM

Not a bad stereotype for a Mississaugaian!

Sepholio 08-03-2011 03:10 PM

Heel Santino would be funny right about now; have him still trying to be funny but in a giant douchebag sort of way instead.

CSL 08-03-2011 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captaincharismark (Post 3594531)
Apparently, even he's tired of it as well.

according to?

DLVH84 08-03-2011 03:23 PM

Time to get serious.

Anybody Thrilla 08-03-2011 03:25 PM

No, that won't help.

Kal-El 08-03-2011 03:26 PM

I think Santino was at his best when he was the IC champ. Trying to be "The greatest IC champion of all the times"!

CSL 08-03-2011 03:29 PM

his performance in the match with Ryder when they went over Otunga/McGillicutty on Superstars is probably the funniest thing I've seen over the last month or two in terms of "current" wrestling

Nicky Fives 08-03-2011 03:39 PM

I got nothing against him..... throw him a few wins here and there to keep him legit and I'll have no problems.....

JKWJRMON 08-03-2011 03:56 PM

Bring back the Cruiserweight Division or Lightweight Division, and have him champ.

Rammsteinmad 08-03-2011 04:32 PM

His feud with Sheamus was awesome! Especially this:

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Gertner 08-03-2011 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSL (Post 3594615)
his performance in the match with Ryder when they went over Otunga/McGillicutty on Superstars is probably the funniest thing I've seen over the last month or two in terms of "current" wrestling

His first match with Ryder on Superstars was mint as well.

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Aguakate 08-03-2011 05:06 PM

Santino's character ran his course about a year and a half ago, or so.

Kane Knight 08-03-2011 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rollermacka (Post 3594526)
To an adult wrestling fan, do you think that Santino has run his course (he's just become childish comedic relief) or do you still find his antics funny? I liked him with Vladimir, he made Vlady a lot more tolerable, but now that he teamhas split I think he's just completely used as a comedic filler that appeals to WWEs child demographic

I don't know what you're talking about. I think his third rate impression of a third rate Jay Leno segment is BRILLIANT! Always has been, and always will be.

...I don't think his antics have changed. Maybe just your perception of them.

Majunior 08-03-2011 09:49 PM

I love Santino.

I do agree, however, he's at his best when he has a purpose.

XCaliber 08-03-2011 10:50 PM

I don't think his act has gotten stale at all but he just needs to find the right peeps to feud as a singles wrestler rather than doing all this tagging he's been doing as of late.

Dante69 08-03-2011 11:00 PM

Future Endeavor him already........damn

Shisen Kopf 08-04-2011 01:41 AM

Santino is a moron. Get rid of him, he's bad for rasslin

captaincharismark 08-04-2011 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 3594535)
Maybe he wasn't smiling because he takes his role as a referee in a monumental divas tag confrontation very seriously...as he should.

It was more a case of him smiling at times and others looking as if he didn't wanna be there. He obviously was staring at the divas, but other than that did seem too happy. Not that I can blame him, but live it would be hard not to notice his complacentness.

I imagine being a joke for your entire career starts to wear on you after a while. After a certain point, WWE should change his character and allow him to be serious. Now is that time IMO, as his routine has been stale for some time...

captaincharismark 08-04-2011 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSL (Post 3594589)
according to?

According to what I saw live at a RAW taping in Memphis(stay up with me here:) Hard not to notice his mannerisms and overall demeanor. Doesn't exactly take a rocket scientist to put two and two together. If he looked unhappy and tired of his routine, chances are that's how he feels. Just my opinion from reading his expressions...

Anybody Thrilla 08-04-2011 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captaincharismark (Post 3595183)
It was more a case of him smiling at times and others looking as if he didn't wanna be there. He obviously was staring at the divas, but other than that did seem too happy. Not that I can blame him, but live it would be hard not to notice his complacentness.

I imagine being a joke for your entire career starts to wear on you after a while. After a certain point, WWE should change his character and allow him to be serious. Now is that time IMO, as his routine has been stale for some time...

You couldn't have imagined I was being serious with that statement, right?

Gertner 08-04-2011 04:41 PM

Santino being serious = "yawn"

RiX1024 08-04-2011 06:10 PM

not as funny as Colt Cabana.

SlickyTrickyDamon 08-05-2011 01:51 AM

It all depends on what the writers write for him. They aren't funny so how can Santino be?

captaincharismark 08-05-2011 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 3595222)
You couldn't have imagined I was being serious with that statement, right?

You being sarcastic??? Never saw it coming.

Evil Vito 08-06-2011 11:22 AM

<font color=goldenrod>Santino is still hilarious...although admittedly the "golden years" were when he was a heel, particularly the Maria interaction. I never thought he had that in him when he was a completely bland babyface during the first 3 or so months that he was on TV.

Come to think...if you don't count Lawler (semi-active) or Cena (who technically got moved to SD for an hour) - Santino is the most tenured member of the Raw roster. Kinda funny to think about.</font>

MoFo 08-06-2011 11:59 AM

^^^ I agree, he was great w/ Maria & Beth, he plays off the divas really well, maybe he should have another valet/love interest.

Side note - Santino & Goldust in a Billy/Chuck bromance would be the best thing ever.

Rollermacka 08-06-2011 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flex Duran (Post 3596414)
Side note - Santino & Goldust in a Billy/Chuck bromance would be the best thing ever.

I don't know, I don't really care for "man love" in wrestling right now. It could never be as good as Booker T and Goldie. I would actually lik to see Goldust in a serious heel run. Not a 15 minute one when he was with Coach, maybe he could come up with something that's diffrent but still "Goldust"

Quote:

Originally Posted by RiX1024 (Post 3595366)
not as funny as Colt Cabana.

Jeez, I'm already tired of Colt Cabana and he's not even signed to a major promotion yet :-\

Anybody Thrilla 08-07-2011 02:08 PM

He wrestled a dark match on Smackdown.

Swiss Ultimate 08-07-2011 02:43 PM

Santino is the next world champion of TNA.

XL 08-07-2011 02:43 PM

This one is easy. How do you solve a problem like Santino?

He should turn heel/join Punk's stable.

captaincharismark 08-07-2011 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 3596989)
This one is easy. How do you solve a problem like Santino?

He should turn heel/join Punk's stable.

Which has been due for 3-4 years now. Him turning heel seriously should've happened once the Cobra lost him several matches. WWE seems hesistant to use him as anything other than a joke. It's a shame too, cause we'll never know if he could be a better character with a badass attitude...

Pintint 08-07-2011 03:11 PM

Thee Cobra is the perfect way to make him into a new character. Have a heel beat him up really bad and tell him he's a joke. Next have a couple of weeks of Santino off TV and the Heel suddenly gets attacked by a random person backstage. That random person turns out to be Santino, but in a completely different persona. You can have Santino rename himself as "Cold Blood" and have him viciously attack and beat up stars backstage, capitalizing on his wrestling/fighting skills.

SlickyTrickyDamon 08-07-2011 03:20 PM

Has "Matthew" infiltrated TPWW?

Anybody Thrilla 08-07-2011 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pintint (Post 3597020)
Thee Cobra is the perfect way to make him into a new character. Have a heel beat him up really bad and tell him he's a joke. Next have a couple of weeks of Santino off TV and the Heel suddenly gets attacked by a random person backstage. That random person turns out to be Santino, but in a completely different persona. You can have Santino rename himself as "Cold Blood" and have him viciously attack and beat up stars backstage, capitalizing on his wrestling/fighting skills.

You're gonna go far, kid.

Anybody Thrilla 08-07-2011 03:58 PM

Far away from these boards, preferably.

CSL 08-07-2011 04:55 PM


Pintint 08-07-2011 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSL (Post 3597124)

See, it works. If you make it as a serious gimmick.
Also why doesnt he have hair under his armpits?
Shaving there sounds...complicated.

CSL 08-07-2011 07:21 PM

god bless you Pintint :'(

and some will tell you it's a hygiene thing, some say armpit hair can "get in the way" of certain things, from shitarse shows in front of 30 people to Kurt Angle, just about everybody in wrestling does it although most probably couldn't tell you definitively why. And it's not that complicated :o

XL 08-08-2011 02:18 AM

Whatever the reason, mases of armpit hair is just not pleasing to the eye.

XL 08-08-2011 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captaincharismark (Post 3596999)
Which has been due for 3-4 years now. Him turning heel seriously should've happened once the Cobra lost him several matches. WWE seems hesistant to use him as anything other than a joke. It's a shame too, cause we'll never know if he could be a better character with a badass attitude...

My Post.
Your head.

Taker it Easy 08-08-2011 09:25 AM

I liked Santino as a serious wrestler, his mma influence was refreshing. It took me awhile to warm up to him after his debut and of course once I did warm up to him, that is when WWE decided to alter his gimmick. :naughty:

He was funny for awhile but that got stale and old, he bame the divas guy which was fitting because he was not that entertaining at the time. :shifty:

Santino and Vlad were an enjoyable tag team. They seemed to help each other out or advance each other in ways that neither could achieve via singles matches at that time.

I'm open to him doing good stuff in the future but right now I don't expect much from him. Hopefully creative will reconsider their point of view on him.

P.S. Santino should be a new Savio Vega.

XL 08-08-2011 10:20 AM

Yes, because the original Savio was so successful, right?

Innovator 08-08-2011 10:25 AM

If you speak ill of Savio Vega, we're gonna have problems.

XL 08-08-2011 10:30 AM

Well he was no Rock/Austin [/captaincharismark]

Innovator 08-08-2011 10:41 AM

My head already hurts with that logic.

captaincharismark 08-08-2011 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 3597575)
Well he was no Rock/Austin [/captaincharismark]

You keep bringing that up, but I've never mentioned it here. Funny how you have to attempt to make a lame joke rather than stay on topic. Yet I'm the one trolling:roll:

CSL 08-08-2011 01:13 PM

I don't think anybody thinks your trolling, just a bit ridiculous

DAMN iNATOR 08-08-2011 01:33 PM

Santino's still good comic relief, plus we all know he can go in the ring. Everybody in here bitching about him needs to lighten up a bit. Plus, ya gotta love how a move as weak-looking as the Cobra has won so many matches for him.

XL 08-08-2011 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captaincharismark (Post 3597627)
You keep bringing that up, but I've never mentioned it here. Funny how you have to attempt to make a lame joke rather than stay on topic. Yet I'm the one trolling:roll:

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSL (Post 3597675)
I don't think anybody thinks your trolling, just a bit ridiculous


Rammsteinmad 08-08-2011 02:27 PM

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Randy Orton has said before that Santino is the funniest guy he has ever travelled with. So at least we can be safe with the knowledge that Santino will always have a job. :D

Lock Jaw 08-08-2011 02:29 PM

Turn him <s>heel</s> Russian

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captaincharismark 08-08-2011 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSL (Post 3597675)
I don't think anybody thinks your trolling, just a bit ridiculous

Anymore ridiculous than XL??? That's setting the bar awfully high...

Mr. Nerfect 08-10-2011 05:54 AM

Santino Marella has a safe job on the roster that could make him important to the company via merchandise sales, and people want to risk that? Now, I have all been for moving Marella up the card in the past, and I am still not against it -- but why can't it be with his current shtick?

I really want to see a feud between Marella and a super-serious heel with some mid-card weight. How about Jack Swagger or Drew McIntyre? Let's go Drew McIntyre, and rekindle the McIntyre/Kelly Kelly angle, with Marella also going after Kelly. McIntyre informs Marella that he plans to destroy him, and you get clips of Marella (hilariously) preparing for this match. McIntyre can win a surprisingly competitive match (and that's all you need to build Marella -- give him a little more each time), and then after the match, Kelly Kelly protects Marella from a McIntyre beat-down. Drew is all "What are you doing, Kelly?" and Marella pulls himself up behind McIntyre and takes him out with The Cobra, before making out with Kelly. McIntyre gets the win, but Santino gets the girl.


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