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Xero 08-20-2011 08:30 PM

Matt Hardy is the greatest guy in history, he's about to hit a chestnut treeee
 
Matt Hardy
Arrested for DWI


http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/08/20/0...2ex-credit.jpg
Wrestling superstar Matt Hardy was arrested in North Carolina today for suspicion of driving while intoxicated ... TMZ has learned.

According to the Moore County Jail, Hardy was busted this afternoon by the North Carolina State Highway Patrol and released around 7:00 PM ET.

Hardy is currently part of Total Nonstop Action Wrestling, but made his name in the WWE.

http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/08/09/update-bar.jpg

According to the North Carolina State Highway Patrol, a trooper discovered Hardy after his 2009 Corvette ran off the road and struck a tree. Hardy was by himself at the time and did not suffer any injuries.

The trooper observed signs of impairment and arrested Hardy. He was charged with DWI and the trooper found no other contraband in the vehicle. Hardy submitted to a blood test, the results are pending.

Cool King 08-20-2011 08:34 PM

http://i33.tinypic.com/1tpwy8.jpg

Mr. Pierre 08-20-2011 08:45 PM

It's only a matter of time before I see local promotional posters around town featuring the Hardy Boys.

Xero 08-20-2011 08:46 PM

With WWE promo pics to boot, so it looks like a wrestling poster.


Kane Knight 08-20-2011 08:49 PM

A Hardy? Impaired?

This is a dark day in wrestling history.

The Naitch 08-20-2011 08:50 PM

There's a saying that goes....if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.

Also, this shits too easy now

Kane Knight 08-20-2011 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Naitch (Post 3607905)
There's a saying that goes....if you don't have anything nice to say, you're probably posting on the internet


Mr. Nerfect 08-20-2011 09:00 PM

It's sad what Matt Hardy has become. He's like the Lindsay Lohan of professional wrestling. The poor guy needs help.

glanville6 08-20-2011 09:07 PM

Can't believe it. I mean, obviously he's troubled, but in like 2003 I would not have expected Matt Hardy to become the person he's become.

Who has fucked up his life more, Lita, or his brother Jeff?

Taker it Easy 08-20-2011 09:29 PM

Taker it Easy, Hardy.

Jordan 08-20-2011 09:32 PM

Matt Fact #412, I'm an alcoholic

Xero 08-20-2011 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glanville6 (Post 3607920)
Can't believe it. I mean, obviously he's troubled, but in like 2003 I would not have expected Matt Hardy to become the person he's become.

Who has fucked up his life more, Lita, or his brother Jeff?

I think Matt's fucked his own life up the most, honestly. He and Jeff aren't exactly the same. Jeff is a stoner who puts others at risk by being intoxicated in the ring. Matt is an attention whore who puts others at risk by being intoxicated behind the wheel, tazing his girlfriend and being an all-out lying douchebag.

I honestly feel Jeff has it more together than Matt, because Matt's shit seems to stem from inner darkness and being fucked up on a mental level. Jeff just REALLY likes to get high, make shitty art and make shitty music.

Taker it Easy 08-20-2011 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fragile X (Post 3607939)
Fatt Hardy Fact #412, I'm an alcoholic

:naughty:

Taker it Easy 08-20-2011 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3607944)
I think Matt's fucked his life up the most, honestly. He and Jeff aren't exactly the same. Jeff is a stoner who puts others at risk by being intoxicated in the ring. Matt is an attention whore who puts others at risk by being intoxicated behind the wheel.


WAIT A SECOND. Please don't put Jeff into that boat. He is a straight up druggie or something like that. Stoners just smoke weed and maybe dabble with e or psychedelics. This dude is doing coke, prolly played with heroin too and also pills fo sure.

Fire it up, Taker it Easy.

Jordan 08-20-2011 09:41 PM

FIRE IT UP
FIRE IT UP
FIRE IT UP
FIRE IT UP

Xero 08-20-2011 09:42 PM

Druggie and stoner are one in the same to me, tbh. "Substance abuser." Either way I wouldn't really care if he smoked or did coke or shot heroine from a rhino's tusk if he wouldn't show up to work drugged out of his mind. By which I mean if he did them on extended breaks from wrestling, not while he's an active competitor.

He should never wrestle again, really. But there are enough slimy promoters out there who will use him.

Taker it Easy 08-20-2011 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fragile X (Post 3607955)
FIRE IT UP
FIRE IT UP
FIRE IT UP
FIRE IT UP

Im about to. :y:

loling @ keeping x-pac heat alive, fo sure.

The Naitch 08-20-2011 09:50 PM

Atleast Jeff won a TNA Championship, WWE Championship, and World Heavyweight Championship. He had his opportunity as a Main Eventer.

Quote:

He has a tattoo of roots that starts on his head, behind his ear, and finishes at his hand. He also has a few other signature designed tattoos, one of which, a dragon, he hid from his father. It was also the first tattoo he got in 1998. He later got tattoos of the Chinese symbols for "Peace" and "Health",...
lol "Health"

Matt Hardy is disturbed, that it's not even funny.

If I had to pick to be one of them, I'd rather be Jeff.

The Naitch 08-20-2011 09:54 PM

Being the WWECW Champion doesn't count as being main eventer. Sympathy Champ. Sorry son.

http://www.allwrestlingsuperstars.co...perstar-23.jpg

Xero 08-20-2011 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Naitch (Post 3607969)

ROFL, this picture sums up their professional careers perfectly.

Xero 08-20-2011 09:57 PM

From PWInsider:

In the wake of his arrest this afternoon for DWI, Matt Hardy has been released by TNA.

In a statement made to TMZ.com, an unnamed TNA Spokesperson commented, "TNA today released Impact Wrestling star Matt Hardy from its roster. Hardy was already under suspension from the company."

According to sources this evening, the original plan had been for Matt and Jeff Hardy to return to TNA storylines around Bound for Glory this October. Obviously, that is out the window.

Hardy had been sent home several weeks back, with the official reason being excessive lateness to events, although it was believed that was a cover story and the real suspension was due to a video Hardy posted online that featured an inebriated Jeff Hardy and both Hardys using a Tazer on Matt's girlfriend, Lucha Libre USA's Reby Sky.

Hardy joined TNA earlier this year after being released by WWE in the wake of a series of incidents that caused him to be sent home from a company tour of Europe.

On August 19th, Hardy wrote on his Twitter account, "It's time for me to get back to a healthy, happy place, the transformation his now started for me, for us-(New Chapter Will begin new)"

Taker it Easy 08-20-2011 10:03 PM

Off to watch that Matt and Jeff tase girlfriend video...

The Naitch 08-20-2011 10:04 PM

Honestly, I feel kind of feel sorry for Matt. I remember in the "ARE WE THERE YET?" WWE stories of the road book, there was an exert in the book where Matt was like "I was sick all week long, but when Lita paid me a surprise visit that night in North Carolina, from then on there, I knew me and Lita were destined to be together."

Plus his former best friend banged his girl and as a result got the main event push

Conclusion: Nice guys do finish last. He's been through his share of shit, but he was so naive.

Mr. Nerfect 08-20-2011 10:05 PM

TNA should definitely release Matt Hardy. But what about Jeff? It'd be a good image-move to get rid of both, I think. If you show up to work absolutely fucked and put your co-workers at risk, that's grounds for dismissal, in my book. Let them go do indy shows as "The Hardys" and be the sad parodies of what they used to be.

Majunior 08-20-2011 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 3607913)
It's sad what Matt Hardy has become. He's like the Lindsay Lohan of professional wrestling. The poor guy needs help.

If Matt is Lindsay Lohan, what's that make Jeff?

Mr. JL 08-20-2011 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Naitch (Post 3607969)
Being the WWECW Champion doesn't count as being main eventer. Sympathy Champ. Sorry son.

http://www.allwrestlingsuperstars.co...perstar-23.jpg

Jeff's got a shit eating grin, like my title actually means more than my older bro's title... and HE KNOWS IT MAN!

Taker it Easy 08-20-2011 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff hardy
Alright guys, sdfiohsdfjs see that god damn red light zip these mother fuckers with a taser. *strange sexual gesture, maybe about to rub saliva on his own nipples. Stare into camera with dead eyes, rotten eyes that you warn your children to stay away from. Then touch Matts girlfriend with fresh saliva fingers.

Anyway, who filmed that?

They 'play wrestler' enough in their videos, mine as well 'play cops' too.

Mr. Nerfect 08-20-2011 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Majunior (Post 3607980)
If Matt is Lindsay Lohan, what's that make Jeff?

Brittney Spears? I dunno.

One of them will be Amy Winehouse soon enough, I fear.

The Naitch 08-20-2011 10:08 PM

Well atleast his new girl is hotter than Lita

http://www.hispanicallyspeakingnews....67657_034.jpeg

Taker it Easy 08-20-2011 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Majunior (Post 3607980)
If Matt is Lindsay Lohan, what's that make Jeff?

Maybe Amy Winehouse

Taker it Easy 08-20-2011 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 3607984)
Brittney Spears? I dunno.

One of them will be Amy Winehouse soon enough, I fear.

Gotta Taker it Easy, you beat me to it.

Mr. Nerfect 08-20-2011 10:10 PM

I've got be honest -- I've got no clue how Matt Hardy does it. Yeah, I suppose he would have money and all that. But so do a lot of people in the wrestling industry. And some of them have jobs, are in shape, don't act like teenagers and know not to drink-drive and taze women.

I probably wouldn't fuck Reby Sky just because of her obvious insanity. And that makes me sick.

Xero 08-20-2011 10:20 PM

Is it wrong that I felt that TNA would actually do the right thing and release Jeff, maybe silently? Here we are, maybe six months after he fucks over a live Pay Per View main event because of his problems, and he's in their plans going into their biggest PPV of the year.

He should have been fired, and at the very least, not been rehired until he was PROVEN clean over a few years. I understand that he's a draw, but no draw is worth the shit they put up with from him.

And Matt just isn't a draw, so hiring him made no sense in the first place.

Disco Apocalypse 08-20-2011 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Naitch (Post 3607985)
Well atleast his new girl is hotter than Lita

Hotter than Lita? :wtf:

Jordan 08-20-2011 10:24 PM

Jeff Hardy/Sting debacle is TNA's Halloween Havoc 98 suicide. Years later, when WWE owns TNA's library and does the promotion equivalent of "The Self Destruction of The Ultimate Warrior" on TNA, that will be a cut where about 6 guys just shake their head in disapproval.

Mr. Nerfect 08-20-2011 10:25 PM

Look, I can understand the hiring of Matt. It didn't excite me, as it just didn't fit TNA's plans early this year. Jeff Hardy was playing a mega-heel, and it made no sense for Matt to come in and hate his brother -- or if he did, then it wouldn't have made sense to boot out Anderson and Morgan from top face spots in place of Matt.

TNA could have given Hardy time to get into shape (which probably wouldn't have happened), and followed the Jeff Hardy stuff through to its ends, and then perhaps have Matt come and "fight for Jeff's soul," or whatever. Matt was just a vanity hiring, though, and really did nothing to help the company, but cost them some money and took up a valuable roster spot.

The Naitch 08-20-2011 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Majunior (Post 3607980)
If Matt is Lindsay Lohan, what's that make Jeff?

http://www.mamapop.com/wp-content/up...t-ew-gross.jpg

Wishbone 08-20-2011 10:31 PM

Saw this coming. These guys had so much potential and they just pissed it all away. They were given shots most guys only dream of and still they fucked it all up. Honestly at this point I'd like it if I never heard another thing about the Hardys ever again that way I could atleast hold on to the memories of the good ol' days. :nono:

Xero 08-20-2011 10:47 PM

Here are some thoughts from random Twitter users on the Matt Hardy situation.

WWEDear REAL fans stay with @MATTHARDYBRAND and @JEFFHARDYBRAND. FAKE fans sicken us

NotKirbyMack Don't judge the man if you don't know the situation. I'm with you @matthardybrand. People don't get through hard times w/o support & prayer

DeDashingDespot typical RT @MATTHARDYBRAND: Me and Reby are fine. the dirt sheets have it wrong again. I wasnt arrested

Rkofan805 @MATTHARDYBRAND R u really out of tna for a DUI

iHEARTniLLz #TNA let @matthardybrand go ! That's a BIG mistake on #TNA's part !!

Pichigo_Soul @MATTHARDYBRAND and @JEFFHARDYBRAND really need to go to rehab :/

SlickyTrickyDamon 08-20-2011 11:00 PM

With all that happened with Helms that should have been the rock bottom moment for the Hardyz.Hope they both get court ordered rehab.

When is Jeff's trial being delayed again to?

drmayberry7 08-20-2011 11:10 PM

Haha matt hardy wrestling SUPERSTAR
More like wrestlings dumbass step brother

CSL 08-20-2011 11:12 PM

good one

Droford 08-20-2011 11:25 PM

http://www.angelfire.com/ny2/RayNRon...attfacts52.jpg


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</td> <td>Matt has a TV/DVD player in his car.
Matt usually exceeds the speed limit.
Matt has gotten four speeding tickets.
Matt has gotten out of over 20 tickets.

Matt has survived five car wrecks.

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better make that 6
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Mr. Nerfect 08-21-2011 12:31 AM

That photo makes me weep for what Hardy has become. :(

BizarroKing 08-21-2011 12:51 AM

Soooooooo....Matt gets a DWI and has been fired...and yet Jeff is still employed...

Loose Cannon 08-21-2011 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 3608031)
http://www.angelfire.com/ny2/RayNRon...attfacts52.jpg


<table border="0" cellspacing="5" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td height="38">
</td> <td>Matt has a TV/DVD player in his car.
Matt usually exceeds the speed limit.
Matt has gotten four speeding tickets.
Matt has gotten out of over 20 tickets.

Matt has survived five car wrecks.

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better make that 6
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This will go down as the highest point in his single career to me. The whole Version 1 gimmick

Captain of Fun 08-21-2011 02:21 AM

Good show on TNA for showing some balls for once, and firing that waste of space. Should be no sympathy for someone who gets behind the wheel in that state. Wonder how many of these sheep on twitter would still be supporting him if he hit a person instead of a tree.

Probably all of them, because they seem like complete imbeciles.

Juan 08-21-2011 03:21 AM

If they really had balls they wouldn't keep Jeff Hardy around just to make a couple bucks off his name

RiX1024 08-21-2011 04:00 AM

What a donkeybag.

Rammsteinmad 08-21-2011 05:25 AM

It's really sad to see what has happened to this Carolina/OMEGA group of friends. Both of the Hardys have completely lost themselves. Jeff with his drug problems and Matt has just gone insane. Mind you, unless I misread the article, it hasn't been 100% proven that Matt was drunk. The officer 'observed signs of impairment' which most likely meant he was drunk, but could always be possible maybe he was just shook up from the crash and not thinking straight.

He's still crazy though.

And Shane Helms seems to have drifted into his own reality too. He's turned into nothing more than a bitter shell of his old self.

The only guy from this group of friends still doing well for himself is Shannon Moore. Who'd have thunk it?

Fox 08-21-2011 06:33 AM

Fucking hell.

This really does make me sad. I was such a huge Jeff Hardy mark when he came back for his run a few years back and finally won the WWE Title. He was having amazing matches against everyone: Morrison, Umaga, Orton, Triple H, his brother. He was on the road to becoming a true main event superstar, and it's like it didn't mean anything to him.

Matt was probably the more talented of the two brothers, and maybe it was his major mistake to leave the WWE, because it seems like he's gone nowhere but downhill since then. Matt could've potentially been a World Heavyweight Champion some day - with the right gimmick, if he got back into top physical condition. He has all of the skills, on the mic, in the ring - if Christian can do it, Matt Hardy could've done it. The only thing that's stopped him is Matt Hardy.

Cool King 08-21-2011 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon (Post 3608085)
This will go down as the highest point in his single career to me. The whole Version 1 gimmick


RP 08-21-2011 06:42 AM

Someone swanton bombed these boys penises when they were little boys.

Captain of Fun 08-21-2011 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox (Post 3608149)
Fucking hell.

This really does make me sad. I was such a huge Jeff Hardy mark when he came back for his run a few years back and finally won the WWE Title. He was having amazing matches against everyone: Morrison, Umaga, Orton, Triple H, his brother. He was on the road to becoming a true main event superstar, and it's like it didn't mean anything to him.

Matt was probably the more talented of the two brothers, and maybe it was his major mistake to leave the WWE, because it seems like he's gone nowhere but downhill since then. Matt could've potentially been a World Heavyweight Champion some day - with the right gimmick, if he got back into top physical condition. He has all of the skills, on the mic, in the ring - if Christian can do it, Matt Hardy could've done it. The only thing that's stopped him is Matt Hardy.

He does NOT have skills on the mic. Nor does Jeff, for that matter. And without tables, ladders, and chairs involved, I wouldn't put Matt Hardy's in-ring ability at main event level.

Autobahn 08-21-2011 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cool King (Post 3607889)

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmfp1bJBZs1qg08ql.gif

Autobahn 08-21-2011 08:11 AM

A Hardy in the news...shocking.

http://c553622.r22.cf2.rackcdn.com/w...ardystaser.jpg

Haze 08-21-2011 11:59 AM

http://www.prowrestling.net/artman/p...e1004175.shtml

Fox 08-21-2011 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain of Fun (Post 3608162)
He does NOT have skills on the mic. Nor does Jeff, for that matter. And without tables, ladders, and chairs involved, I wouldn't put Matt Hardy's in-ring ability at main event level.

False. Matt Hardy's "Version 1" gimmick proved that he DOES have skills on the mic, given the proper gimmick to channel his personality through. I mean, the same could be said for anyone, I suppose. Some could argue that Austin didn't have mic skills until he found "Stone Cold", or that The Rock didn't have them until he found "The Corporate Champ."

But seriously, boiling the Hardys' careers down to only being good in TLC-related matches is a really linear and close-minded way of looking at things. It completely ignores all of the amazing non-gimmick matches that they had, singles or tag team.

Sonofanarchy 08-21-2011 03:29 PM

whoss not to say he drove into a tree and had a concussion , i mean he must have hit is head and he gave blood so nothing came up on the breathelizer.

We're taught in school to never assume someone is on drugs as it can be diabities or concusion....

theres still a chance guys...

Mr. JL 08-21-2011 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BizarroKing (Post 3608080)
Soooooooo....Matt gets a DWI and has been fired...and yet Jeff is still employed...

Kurt Angle has got to have at least 2 DUI arrests, yet TNA has not fired him. Double Standard.

Shadrick 08-21-2011 05:50 PM

Yeah but thats Kurt...what he's done for TNA is not comparable to what Matt has done...

Shadrick 08-21-2011 05:50 PM

And very nice title, Xero. Kudos to you good sir, very clever.

FourFifty 08-21-2011 05:55 PM

WHAT THE FUCK?

Thank you for ruining Matt hitting a chestnut tree, thank you for ruining what would have been my only mark out moment in a year.

WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU TYPE "SPOILERS" WHEN YOU TYPE WHAT THE SPOILER IS RIGHT BESIDE IT!!!!!!!!!

Now I know Matt Hardy hit a chestnut tree, chestnuts are my favourite trees, hearing his damn car hit would have made me mark out so bad, but no, you have to fucking ruin it, couldn't you make the title "Chestnut Tree major spoilers" alone? Seriously man, use your goddam brain. Why mark for spoilers when the spoiler is right beside where you mark for spoilers.

Fuck this shit, you're not the only one who does it, so many people do, i am out of the fucking wrestling forum besides for tipsters until I'm sober, see you all April fourth.

CSL 08-21-2011 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadrick (Post 3608380)
Yeah but thats Kurt...what he's done for TNA is not comparable to what Matt has done...

lol well that makes it ok then

Theo Dious 08-21-2011 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. JL (Post 3608361)
Kurt Angle has got to have at least 2 DUI arrests, yet TNA has not fired him. Double Standard.

Kurt Angle was not under suspension when he got his DUIs, Kurt Angle is actually a valuable asset to the company, and Kurt Angle does not have the history for being an embarrassing twat that Hardy has run up in the past few months.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSL (Post 3608387)
lol well that makes it ok then

Thing is Matt Hardy was not fired for "getting a DUI." He was fired for a string of incidents that make him more of a liability than an asset.

Theo Dious 08-21-2011 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonofanarchy (Post 3608312)
whoss not to say he drove into a tree and had a concussion

Occam's Razor, that's who.

CSL 08-21-2011 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tedious (Post 3608399)
Kurt Angle was not under suspension when he got his DUIs, Kurt Angle is actually a valuable asset to the company, and Kurt Angle does not have the history for being an embarrassing twat that Hardy has run up in the past few months.

Angle is/was a much bigger fuck up than Hardy in regards to drugs, a danger to himself, being a mess and so forth, even more so than Jeff Hardy when it came to drugs as he was putting his health/life at risk with pain pills and the like and would apparently need help putting his boots on/was released from a high-paying WWE spot as opposed to Jeff who likes getting high a bit too much. Difference is Angle doesn't put himself out there/make himself an "easy target" for everybody to be able to take shots at.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tedious (Post 3608399)
Thing is Matt Hardy was not fired for "getting a DUI." He was fired for a string of incidents that make him more of a liability than an asset.

Well he wasn't, he was fired for this DUI otherwise he'd still be there but that wasn't the point of my post.

Skippord 08-21-2011 07:27 PM

I don't like Kurt Angle or Matt Hardy

going to mock them both and no one can argue with me about it

Theo Dious 08-21-2011 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSL (Post 3608410)
Angle is/was a much bigger fuck up than Hardy in regards to drugs, a danger to himself, being a mess and so forth, even more so than Jeff Hardy when it came to drugs as he was putting his health/life at risk with pain pills and the like and would apparently need help putting his boots on/was released from a high-paying WWE spot as opposed to Jeff who likes getting high a bit too much. Difference is Angle doesn't put himself out there/make himself an "easy target" for everybody to be able to take shots at.

Comparing Angle to Jeff, as far as I know Angle never screwed up a TNA main event because of his problems; also as far as I know Angle's problems never really impacted the TNA product at all. Comparing him to Matt, Angle's issue is a case of a professional athlete who had a few DUIs and some drug issues in the past. That's "dog bites man." A professional athlete whose brother has already made bad publicity for the company for substance-abuse-related incidents going on to get a DUI after making a drunken spectacle of himself all over the internet after tasering his girlfriend and getting suspended by said company, that is "man bites dog."

Well he wasn't, he was fired for this DUI otherwise he'd still be there but that wasn't the point of my post.

If Matt Hardy had done nothing during his time in TNA except get a DUI, he'd still have a job today. He was fired while under suspension for a string of incidents that have embarrassed the company he works for and this was just the last straw. You said there was a double standard between how Angle's situation was handled vs how Hardy's was handled. There is no double standard in place because the incidents occurred under entirely different circumstances. To put it another way, firing someone who is under suspension for behavior X is not contradictory to not firing someone for behavior X who is not under suspension.

CSL 08-21-2011 07:40 PM

The double standard I was referencing was Shadrick's, I didn't mention anything about TNA or how they've handled anything.

CSL 08-21-2011 07:48 PM

In regards to your first part, TNA screwed their own main event by sending Jeff out in the first place. He was deeply unprofessional to be in that "condition" (and for the sake of the devil's advocate, he was far from the first to do it) but for TNA to let him go out on PPV (for a main event of all things) anyway is "unforgivable", I know piece of shit cowboy promoters that are pathetic excuses for human beings that wouldn't do something that ridiculous. And please, Angle's problems/drug use aren't somehow "better"/"more forgivable" (not that it, like anybody else in wrestling, should have fuck all to do with the opinions/judgement of fans that post on the internet anyway) than Hardy's, like I said, the only difference is he doesn't record himself and post the videos online.

Captain of Fun 08-21-2011 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox (Post 3608274)
False. Matt Hardy's "Version 1" gimmick proved that he DOES have skills on the mic, given the proper gimmick to channel his personality through. I mean, the same could be said for anyone, I suppose. Some could argue that Austin didn't have mic skills until he found "Stone Cold", or that The Rock didn't have them until he found "The Corporate Champ."

But seriously, boiling the Hardys' careers down to only being good in TLC-related matches is a really linear and close-minded way of looking at things. It completely ignores all of the amazing non-gimmick matches that they had, singles or tag team.

As V1 he wasn't terrible, but he still wasn't that great. A lot of his lines still felt kind of forced to me.

I didn't say anything about Jeff's in ring ability outside of TLC matches. And I didn't say matt hardy wasn't any good outside of TLC. Just not main event level. He's upper midcard at most, imo.

Rock Bottom 08-21-2011 11:42 PM

I could never buy into either of them as credible outside of tag team matches.

KIRA 08-21-2011 11:46 PM

The reason Jeff is still employed besides being the more marketable of the 2

IMO when he gets in trouble hes extremely quiet when Matt gets in trouble he hits the social outlets harder than a whiny teenage girl getting dumped at prom

I think TNA has a certain respect for the fact that jeff can at least fuck up and keep his mouth shut.

Lock Jaw 08-22-2011 12:36 AM

Matt Says, And I

Quote:

"I took a breathalyzer immediately on the spot and it read clean, zero, nothing. Think about peeps! There's more to this story than meets the eye. MATTHEW"
C-O-N- ..... spiracy against Matthew Hardy going on! It all makes sense!

GD 08-22-2011 12:58 AM

I feel sad for the Hardy brothers. They had it all but they had to fuck it up :nono:

The Naitch 08-22-2011 01:27 AM

If they really wanted to keep him, I'm pretty they would've done anything in their power to keep him. But I'm guessing he probably irritated alot of people backstage, and this incident is just the convenient exit strategy they needed to finally let him go. People were probably turned off by Matt's "vibe". Seems like a real downer that was just kept around out of sympathy or because of Jeff's pull (if he even had any)

They probably believed in "second chances", and that he was deserving of that chance to revitalize his career after picking him up from THE E, but since he didn't really make a noteworthy splash, they probably just given up on him as a performer and as a person

chrisat928 08-22-2011 01:50 AM

I love the idiots defending the Hardy's.

Jackasses that do this to themselves do not deserve sympathy.

Tom Guycott 08-22-2011 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BizarroKing (Post 3608080)
Soooooooo....Matt gets a DWI and has been fired...and yet Jeff is still employed...

It is sad I see the logic in this.

You can cut and run from the ugly duckling, but why sacrifice the golden goose? No matter how much crack he smokes, he's still going to lay golden eggs. Unless Jeff actually KILLS someone (no Benoit jokes, I'm serious), he will always get the pass because he is a licence to print merch money.

Hell, look how many chances he got in the WWE, and they made a complete main event angle out of it.

Yes, Matt is a grade-A bag of severed dicks. Yes, he's a walking cheeseburger consumption joke. Yes, he isn't half as good in the ring as he used to be, or about a fourth as good as he thinks he is... but growing up as a slightly embittered sibling, I can see it isn't really fair for him to get the axe simply because he's not Jeff.

But that will always be the logical thing to do. From a business standpoint, Jeff sells glowsticks and wristbands and shirts ad infinitum to little girls who want the hair-dying bad boy to take their virginity. Matt brings nothing to the table except the possiblity of a Hardy Boyz reunion.

GD 08-22-2011 02:13 AM

By Ryan Clark on Monday, August 22nd, 2011 at 12:36 AM EST

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Matt Hardy, who was arrested Saturday in North Carolina for driving while intoxicated, says he is innocent. Surprised?!?

In response to fans who were discussing his arrest, Hardy wrote on his YouTube channel, “I took a breathalyzer immediately on the spot and it read clean, zero, nothing. Think about peeps! There’s more to this story than meets the eye. MATTHEW”

Hardy posted another, longer response regarding the matter, but immediately deleted it.

Hardy’s contract with TNA Wrestling was subsequently terminated following his arrest. He hinted on YouTube that a return to WWE could be in the cards.
In response to a remark that he should return to WWE, Hardy wrote, “You are exactly right my lovely. It’s time for the original Matt Hardy to appear once again!”
Yup.

CSL 08-22-2011 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by chrisat928 (Post 3608740)
I love the idiots defending the Hardy's.

Jackasses that do this to themselves do not deserve sympathy.

I haven't seen one person in this thread "defend" the Hardys

The Naitch 08-22-2011 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 3608763)
Matt Hardy, who was arrested Saturday in North Carolina for driving while intoxicated, says he is innocent. Surprised?!?

In response to fans who were discussing his arrest, Hardy wrote on his YouTube channel, “I took a breathalyzer immediately on the spot and it read clean, zero, nothing. Think about peeps! There’s more to this story than meets the eye. MATTHEW”

Hardy posted another, longer response regarding the matter, but immediately deleted it.

Hardy’s contract with TNA Wrestling was subsequently terminated following his arrest. He hinted on YouTube that a return to WWE could be in the cards. In response to a remark that he should return to WWE, Hardy wrote, “You are exactly right my lovely. It’s time for the original Matt Hardy to appear once again!” Yup.

lol so the accident left him even more delusional

Fox 08-22-2011 02:50 AM

MATT: I've made mistakes, I tried my hand somewhere else, I was looking out for my brother, but I'm ready to come back, Vince.

VINCE: I'm giving you one more shot. Don't blow it.

JEFF: What 'bout me, Vin-man?

VINCE: Fuck off.

Shadrick 08-22-2011 09:30 AM

CSL is trying to say "Angle did it too so he should get fired too." And I'm saying that you can't equate Hardy and Angles stances in the company because they are at two VERY different places. Comparing them is apples and oranges in terms of relationships, drawing, in-ring ability, etc.

CSL 08-22-2011 09:54 AM

where did I say that?

Xero 08-22-2011 11:20 AM

http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/08/22/0...ardy-ex-wm.jpg

Lock Jaw 08-22-2011 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MATTHEW HARDY
"When the side windows glass smashed into my face, arms, & neck, some of the blood that did felt almost angelic. I went from being afraid to die to feeling like I was almost being reborn with some sort of an ABSOLUTE PURE LIFE-FORCE. It was the most amazing thing I've every experience, I felt like I'd just received the blood of an angel flowing inside me-I know this sounds crazy! Due to these, I only have urges to help people. And miraculously, all my vices are gone.

Amen Friends,

MATTHEW"

IT'S A MIRACLE!!

Xero 08-22-2011 01:55 PM

lol, that's so hilarious, especially after he pulled a video talking about how he passed a breathalyzer. He's such a piece of shit.

GD 08-22-2011 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3609030)

What's wrong with his right eye?

Captain of Fun 08-22-2011 02:12 PM

He's hammered.

GD 08-22-2011 02:14 PM

http://0.tqn.com/d/prowrestling/1/0/m/K/-/-/kane.jpg

The Naitch 08-22-2011 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3609030)

oh dear God...

mike adamle 08-22-2011 03:36 PM

...He did just get in a car accident.

Kane Knight 08-22-2011 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadrick (Post 3608380)
Yeah but thats Kurt...what he's done for TNA is not comparable to what Matt has done...

Plus, he did it with a broken FREAKING neck.

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Originally Posted by KIRA (Post 3608605)
The reason Jeff is still employed besides being the more marketable of the 2

Sell T-Shirts, get a free ride.

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Originally Posted by Shadrick (Post 3608982)
CSL is trying to say "Angle did it too so he should get fired too." And I'm saying that you can't equate Hardy and Angles stances in the company because they are at two VERY different places. Comparing them is apples and oranges in terms of relationships, drawing, in-ring ability, etc.

On the flip-side, if Angle royally fucks up, he's a bigger liability to the company. Of course, that also requires logical thinking, which TNA opposes fervently.

teamXtremist 08-22-2011 05:32 PM

the mug shot says it all matt hardy is a washed up has been who will never be in wwe/tna again

GD 08-22-2011 05:37 PM

Matt Hardy's next gig
SPOILER: show
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Mr. JL 08-22-2011 05:41 PM

So, in other words...

Matt Hardy has just Jannetty'd himself.

Rammsteinmad 08-22-2011 06:42 PM

I'm still gonna remain neutral about this crash incident until we get blood results or whatever.

He's clearly losing his mind, no doubt, but you can also tell by that mugshot that it appears he took a nasty bump to the head. If he was drunk, then the truth will come out, but it's not impossible that he could have been incoherent etc due to that shot to the head.

Either way, he's still going crazy, and I'd say his WWE/TNA careers are doomed.

St. Jimmy 08-22-2011 06:48 PM

Ryan Dunn & Matt Hardy: Best Tag Team Ever

Kane Knight 08-22-2011 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by teamXtremist (Post 3609260)
the mug shot says it all matt hardy is a washed up has been who will never be in wwe/tna again

Yeah right. The fucker'll probably have like six more runs in TNA.


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