Nash Released?
 

From WWE.com:

WWE has come to terms on the release of WWE Superstar Kevin Nash as of Monday, Sept. 5, 2011. We wish Kevin the best in all future endeavors.

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Not sure if this is a work to sell an angle or not...

Does seem fishy. Probably pulling one of those short versions of a Daniel Bryan firing and return

Everything ever is a work.

I hope it's a work.

I can't tell what's part of an angle and what's not anymore...

Yeah, pretty sure this is just a follow up to sell HHH "firing" him, especially since it says as of Monday

Come on, it's a work.

Kayfabe.

This was posted at the TPWW front page:


WWE.com posted the following today…

WWE has come to terms on the release of WWE Superstar Kevin Nash as of Monday, Sept. 5, 2011. We wish Kevin the best in all future endeavors.


Then, Ryan Clark commented:


More soon but this looks like the real deal for now.


LOL this guy...

:nono:

Seems just as possible that it's not a work. Also would make a lot of sense if it was legit considering how Punk/Nash was instantly scrapped and they went to Punk/HHH.

BUT I GUESS WE'LL JUST HAVE TO TUNE IN TO FIND OUT!

Just underneath the story at the front page, we have:

Kevin Nash Fails WWE Drug Test – SHOCKER >>!!

Haha...this Clark guy knows nothing.

Your a work!

*You're

*Yore

Such things are making it hard for me to Taker it Easy.

Yes. As well as tying up loose ends by having him be the texter...so it wraps it all up in a bow.

I'm gonna go ahead and guess that this is a work.

The bulk of this angle has been based around Nash, Triple H and Punk. HHH and Punk have a No DQ match, with HHH's ownership on the line. Come on, there's no way something this 'big' won't have some kinda swerve ending.

And if it's legit... I don't really give a shit.

*Ye

You don't mean having Miz/Truth coming in to beat down HHH for Punk only for Nash to show up? :eek:

this is a work that is going to be the foundation for some big nash return with some type of group

This thread is a work.

I'm at work.

I'm not at work.

i hate work

100% work.....

Could be either considering Nash allegedly failed the physical. Not that I really care either way, but the usual crowd will claim then calling it as a work if it is the greatest achievement in the history of their pathetic lives. Guess I should let them have that moment.

Well it better god damned be a work.

From the main page.....

Ryan Clark is a fucking retard.....

If you watched RAW on Monday, then you KNOW this is part of the storyline...

Ryan Clark has removed his "More soon but this looks like the real deal for now" from his original report.

He added in the update "... sounds fishy" instead.

From the front page:


Kevin Nash tweeted the following:

“To set the record straight, I passed physical w/ flying colors. Cardiologist was amazed at my lipid profile. Couldn’t reach financial terms.

I will not be addressing this matter again. I am moving forward with my life. Cena, it was great having the chance to get to know you.”


As noted earlier, this has been confirmed as part of the storylines. Look for him to return at the WWE Night of Champions pay-per-view. Nash is telling people he’s been released to sell the angle. Kind of sad when WWE tries to work the internet.


LOL you mad they fooled you, Ryan Clark? Haha

:'(

Anyone with half a brain neuron could tell this is a work.

This demonstrates that the WWE doesn't quite understand the internet yet. It looks terrible when they try to outsmart internet fans, who between them have a world of resources at their disposal, a large collective knowledge and years of experience.

They need to start entertaining the fans, like Zack Ryder, and stop trying to work the fans, like Matt Hardy.

Why on earth do people still read Ryan Clark's "work" ?

I haven't really cared for Ryan Clark's "work" since his site gave me 20 viruses 8 or 9 years ago.

I donno guys. This seems pretty real to me.

Ryan Clark is a waste of sperm. How is it sad that WWE is working the internet? It's smart in my book. It's not like you see WWE posting "suicide" videos on youtube to "work" the internet...:shifty:
Now that would be sad...

Next time someone asks the definition of "butt-hurt," this is the perfect example.

It's a work. If Nash was released for real, he wouldn't be featured on their main news section .

Of course it's a work did nobody catch JR questioning whether or not Laurinitis had more or less the some level of authority when him and Nash were leaving together in the limousine?

This shows how stupid Ryan Clark is. First he announces the release. Then he follows up with the post that it's a work and Nash will return at Night of Champions along with his side comment that it's sad when the WWE tries to work the Internet, and now according to him the release is due to Nash filming a movie and the production company not wanting to insure him while he wrestles.

It's like when dude marked out at the Undertaker/Brock exchange and said it stemmed from backstage heat... then it was a work... then the truth came out that Taker was doing a bit of his own thing.

I respectfully disagree:


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Im a werk?

All this shows is that WWE occasionally has flashes of insight as to what is currently being demanded.

Where's my sticker?

That one kids face next to punk's is hilarious.

But it also shows that working the "smarks" can be successful. So to say that they should not work the internet is silly.

"Kevin Nash" was released.

Big Daddy Cool Diesel will be returning at Night of Champions.

Random Kevin Nash moment:


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Have I MENTIONED yet that anyone that posts anything from Ryan Clark should be banned?

It's definitely a work, but I'm glad they're at least TRYING. It's nothing to be upset about, and I love it.

lol, it'd be funny if they got pissed of and decided to not bring him back just to confuse everyone who thinks its a work.

PWInsider:
As noted before, Kevin Nash’s “release” that was announced earlier today is all part of what’s happening on TV. The release was announced to play off the major deal that John Laurinaitis signed Nash to on RAW.
The reason for Nash’s exit from the WWE storylines is because Nash has booked a movie role, likely the same one that he is dieting for. Word is that the people behind the movie didn’t want to insure Nash for filming while he was working as a pro wrestler. Nash will likely stay gone until he is done filming the movie. No word yet if this will affect any of his independent dates.

I'd be OK with that too. He has been shitty as fuck since he started speaking.

Still a good foil to CM Punk, though.

Has Nash's ring work actually been better than his mic work? Those two powerbombs were pretty good.

I'd like to see the Nash we've seen in wcw and TNA rather than the big monster he portrays anytime he shows in Wwe
I want Graphs and charts peeps

I am in the minority like Mohammad Hassan and think it may just be real. For the simple fact that WWE have never announced someone as "futured endeavoured" online unless it was real. Of course there are firsts for everything though.

Plus everytime i see this:
http://www.wwe.com/f/wysiwyg/image/2...erShow_268.jpg
i think this:
http://www.gerweck.net/wp-content/up...chaelseitz.jpg

Like Daniel Bryan?

Also, they've recently started using the term "future endeavored" on television. CM Punk actually said the exact words to Nash on RAW after he was "fired". This all fits. You really think Nash was really fired after hopping into a car with Laurinitis?

John Laurinitis, who is supposed to be "Mr. Future Endeavours"?

Right.

wasn't cena future endeavored on the site after the nexus thing or whatever?

Sweet, so they risked shareholder fraud investigations AND let him work indie dates to work the smarks?

In that case, they probably will fire Nash, just to work the smarks who think they're on to WWE's plans.

They had every intention of using him again.

Not quite the same thurrrrr, is it?

No not really, but the rest of that post holds true.

Who says working the internet doesn't work? There are quite a few people in this very thread that have no idea if he is actually released or not.

I'm not saying that they are the smartest of people because he is clearly not released but it still works.

I think the only way they would face the shareholder fraud thing is if it was on the corperate site. I am prettty sure that shareholders know that the regular WWE.COM will be used to further stories.

They made PR claims at the time.

Even if it didn't go up on the corporate site, this was to placate both parents and shareholders. Probably advertisers too.

Also, remember there was an investigation regarding the "sale" of Raw to Trump. Which proves two things: One, they really don't need to stick their necks out too far, and two, shareholders are retards who panic over storylines (Since it was the major sale of the stock that prompted the look, and that was NOT on corporate).

Is this the same as selling Raw? No. Does it need to be to incur an investigation? No. Does Vince know this? Empahtically YES. Is he retarded? Maybe.

Of course, "working the internet" only really works if it translates to more buys, more views, more eats, more money in short.

It's been done before, but the major point about working the internet is that there's no real point or gain.

As it is, that still holds. No such endeavour has yet proved to actually draw people.

I don't think you're giving kayfabe enough credit, Mr. Knight. It's a time-honored tradition, and though they won't flat out DENY it anymore, they'll still let it roll. People who hold shares should know enough about what they're holding shares in, in my opinion.

As far as this work having a point, it's creating speculation, which I would say is a good thing for fans. I'm a fan. Fuck shareholders, ratings, sales, or whatever the fuck. As long as they're afloat and I'm enjoying the product, then great.

You've also admitted to ridiculously low standards before. I'm not sure if there is a possible point at which you would actually stop enjoying the product. Regardless, they're not doing it for your enjoyment. WWE is run like a business, after all. I made peace with that years ago, and I think most grounded people did. It's pretty clear they wouldn't "work" the internet without intent to gain. Which was my point. Making whether you enjoyed it moot. It's nice and all, but it's clearly not the point.

KAYFABE is really beside the point, again, because they have been a corporate enterprise for several years now. This means they have certain limits, and lying to shareholders is not acceptable, even if you say "kayfabe." There's a rather large difference between working the audience and working the investors, as the latter is quite illegal. It seems to be a proposal that they did such a thing, here.

The main thing that seems to drive that notion is the general cynicism. People have become so accustomed to works, they call them with the frequency JR says something loud and excitable. They call "work" here, when so few of the "work" attempts have paid off, and the risk would be pretty high. Occam's razor isn't just for the discussion forum. Sorry.

But I am talking facts.

If I'm vesting enough interest into anything to purchase shares of it, chances are I'm going to have some inkling of understanding as to what is actually going on with the company. WWE is a unique form of entertainment. If the people pumping money into it aren't aware of that, then they probably should have done some more research.

To me, it sounds as if you're saying that they should just openly admit what's real and what's not about every single thing that happens on TV. With the internet being as accessible and popular as it is, it would effectively kill kayfabe, and that would paint a very drab picture for fans. Where does the money come from? Those very same fans.

I've never "admitted to ridiculously low standards" before. That's your opinion that you've cast upon me, and you're entitled to that. All that withstanding, I think the reason that we don't see eye-to-eye on a lot of issues is that at the core of things, I AM a fan. I'm pretty sure you are too, but somewhere along the way, you started feeling like you had to be "smart" about things and think about them from a business standpoint. Again, the WWE is a truly unique form of entertainment, and it's difficult to draw comparisons to most things because of that FACT.

Are you a shareholder? No. Are you making any money off of anything that WWE does? No. However, for some reason, you want to sit there and act like you're a part of that side of things, and I really don't see how any of this can even be fun for you.

This is a work. It's nothing new. Anybody with money involved SHOULD know that, but if they don't, then it's their fault. Regardless, as a FAN, this is all a ton of fun, and if you aren't finding any enjoyment in it, then I feel bad for you. I know you haven't said anything about not enjoying it, and maybe you're just sparking discussion, but there's no need to talk down to me about it either way.

Just to go OT a little regarding Daniel Bryan:

Kane Knight has a point in the sense that, as a publicly held company, the WWE's ability to "work" the audience has limits.

Most people who buy stock in a company aren't doing it as fanboys, they're doing it to profit and consequently are more focused on revenue and cashflow than they are storylines. That's even if they are familiar with the product. So when something comes up like the Daniel Bryan situation, where WWE actively presents itself as PG to the audience, sponsors and investors and then does something that goes completely against that, it puts the revenue and cashflow at risk because those sponsors who contribute to WWE's bottom line may not be sponsors in the future. That's the kind of unnecessary risk that WWE has an obligation as a public company to not expose shareholders to. You can't just say to sponsors or shareholders "We're a different kind of entertainment so you should have known we'd have a guy choke someone with their own tie and spit on our top star despite us making sure everyone knows we're PG now."

As fans we may enjoy it, but we've still got to consider the business implications of some of these "works" because to a certain extent they do influence how far storylines and characters can go.

Yeah, I was off the mark with the Daniel Bryan comparison.

HEY PUNK! IT AIN'T OVER YET!


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If a movie is rated PG, do yo watch it thinking about what can and can't happen based on the rating?

Don't be stupid.

Try it for once.

No but I do have some expectation about the content and nature of the movie and therefore act accordingly. PG implies I can watch the movie with my little niece and not have to worry about people dying Saw style.

I think you're reaching a bit here. The PG rating has two different implications for a viewer and a serious investor. For the investor, PG means a potentially wider audience and advertising/sponsorship/licensing pool which means more revenue. WWE knows that and there's a reason why they went to such lengths to make it known that their product was PG. If the company were to deviate from that rating to the point where those advertisers were turned off, that would hurt the company's bottom line and consequently the investor. And you can't dismiss that fact considering one of ECW's biggest problems was that advertisers never fully committed because the product was too unpredictable in terms of the content that would be shown week to week.

See, this is just completely unnecessary.

Kane Knight is Debbie Downer big time.

That's debatable. Drawing people takes time, and if this helps take a step towards that then what is the problem?

I understand all of that, but I'm wondering why we, as fans, are discussing this as investors. Seems like it would suck all of the fun out of it.

On a vaguely-related note, I wonder what they're up to by continually pushing the envelope and calling themselves out for being PG on the shows as of late.

GTS to Triple-H, and the referee doesn’t count. Crowd gets mad. Triple-H comes to and has no clue what’s going on. Punk goes to GTS the referee, but Kevin Nash interferes and Jackknifes Punk, while the referee just stands there and watches. A quick three count, and it’s over. Triple-H then Pedigrees the referee, pissed at what went down.

Why do you want the referee to get his ass kicked so badly?

Finger Poke Time. This whole thing has become a clusterfuck unfortunately.

why does Kevin Nash have to be involved?

kinda sucks

I love Nash!

Not that this is news but you're retarded. This whole angle has been exceptionally well-booked.

Because he's involved in the feud, and he's a tool to make the feud develop more?

They didn't do Nash any favors with the whole no music thing...