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Xero 09-18-2011 04:08 PM

Unprofessional Pricks
 
So, I'm just sitting here thinking about how unprofessional Shawn Michaels was throughout his career.

Among other things:
The Curtain Call
Michaels vs. Hogan
Refusing to drop belts multiple times
Vader vs. Michaels, where Shawn comes off the top rope, Vader doesn't move, then just stomps the piss out of Vader, telling him to move
Showing up to tapings coked up (I've only heard of this being a bad case after 98 but before he returned in 2002)

Over all, he's been a pretty big Unprofessional Prick. He's quite possibly the biggest one the WWE has ever seen. And he'll admit this himself.

With this in mind, list some more "unprofessional pricks", along with their "Accomplishments of Prickdom" and who you feel is the biggest Unprofessional Prick of them all.

XL 09-18-2011 04:28 PM

Warrior, Holly, Saturn to varying degrees.

St. Jimmy 09-18-2011 04:33 PM

Michaels vs. Hogan was awesome.

James Diesel 09-18-2011 06:02 PM

Pretty sure Orton's to be found here. Backstage bullshit and discharge dumbass.

DLVH84 09-18-2011 06:04 PM

I think you're referring to the night WWF bought WCW.

CSL 09-18-2011 06:05 PM

what

XL 09-18-2011 06:13 PM

Huh?

Corporate CockSnogger 09-18-2011 06:14 PM

I think we found a glitch in the DLVH84 bot.

DLVH84 09-18-2011 06:15 PM

The incident Xero is referring to when Shawn was showing up coked up.

CSL 09-18-2011 06:16 PM

He was pilled up. And it was more than once.

Xero 09-18-2011 06:17 PM

DLVH may be talking about the time he was sent home. But as CSL said, it was more than once.

DLVH84 09-18-2011 06:18 PM

Drugged up, in general.

PorkSoda 09-18-2011 06:25 PM

I think Hulk Hogan is pretty unprofessional. So was Kevin Nash, Scott Hall and Eric Bischoff during their WCW days.

Examples: Not giving the ball to anybody else and thinking the spotlight is all about them.

Cool King 09-18-2011 06:41 PM

Jericho mentions in his book that he was backstage about to do a run-in on William Regal while dressed as Doink The Clown and Shawn Michaels showed up "in no condition to perform". Michaels couldn't understand why Jericho was dressed as Doink and got pissed off that, what he thought, was the WWE making Jericho the new Doink.

Vastardikai 09-18-2011 07:15 PM

Jeff Hardy showing up at the main event of a TNA PPV in no condition to perform, causing the main event to go 90 seconds due to his opponent not taking that shit.

Rollermacka 09-18-2011 09:20 PM

Hulk Hogan in general, Bash at the Beach 2000 and Halloween Havoc 1999 come to mind particularly. Hulk Hogan refused to lose cleanly so it ended up screwing up the PPV completely. Another unprofessional that most people may not know about it Jim Herd. He was in charge of WCW in 1991 and he believed that Ric Flair's days were over so he wanted him to shave his head and adopt a Gladiator gimmick. He completely refused to compromised with Flair about the world title situation so he fired Flair thinking he wasn't a main eventer anymore

Rammsteinmad 09-18-2011 10:41 PM

Hulk Hogan. :yes:

Shisen Kopf 09-19-2011 12:00 AM

Sid always leaving to play softball is pretty retarded. Unprofessional prick, fuck him!

DLVH84 09-19-2011 12:21 AM

Verne Gagne for not listening to his son Greg and many others about changing with the times, which eventually led to the demise of the AWA.

The MAC 09-19-2011 02:08 AM

uh,

shawn not wanting to lose to davey boy in the u.k in a match dedicated to Davey's dying sister.

Shawn refusing to put Bret Hart over in a match at WM13. I lost my smile.

Teddy Hart doing a high spot move to get out of the ring after supposedly being knocked out by a finisher.

Shawn michaels refusing to lose to Austin until taker started taping up his fists

Shawn Michaels stuffing somethig down his trunks and then jumping up and down in the ring.

Shawn michaels - cycling shorts - a crime against humanity

Shawn Michaels - sunny days comment

Bischoff giving away raw results

hunter stiffing owen hart with a crutch during a shawn vs owen match

Vince - montreal, firing Jeff jarret on tv, interviewing pillmans wife the day after the day he died, not stopping the show after owen died.

#BROKEN Hasney 09-19-2011 02:32 AM

Kevin Nash. The dude shows up at PPV's for companies he doesn't even have jobs at. What a prick.

Rammsteinmad 09-19-2011 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DLVH84 (Post 3632623)
Verne Gagne for not listening to his son Greg and many others about changing with the times, which eventually led to the demise of the AWA.

God, how did I forget this one?! So unprofessional of him.

Volare 09-19-2011 07:37 AM

Verne the dick.

Sixx 09-19-2011 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The MAC (Post 3632777)
uh,

shawn not wanting to lose to davey boy in the u.k in a match dedicated to Davey's dying sister.

Shawn refusing to put Bret Hart over in a match at WM13. I lost my smile.

Teddy Hart doing a high spot move to get out of the ring after supposedly being knocked out by a finisher.

Shawn michaels refusing to lose to Austin until taker started taping up his fists

Shawn Michaels stuffing somethig down his trunks and then jumping up and down in the ring.

Shawn michaels - cycling shorts - a crime against humanity

Shawn Michaels - sunny days comment

Bischoff giving away raw results

hunter stiffing owen hart with a crutch during a shawn vs owen match

Vince - montreal, firing Jeff jarret on tv, interviewing pillmans wife the day after the day he died, not stopping the show after owen died.

Much of what you said isn't unprofessional, these are just dick moves.

Innovator 09-19-2011 07:59 AM

Teddy also not telling the guys he was working with what he was doing, just flipping.

Chavo Classic 09-19-2011 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 3632917)
Teddy also not telling the guys he was working with what he was doing, just flipping.

Perfect answer. Also another reason why CM Punk is god, for slapping the piss out of him in response.

http://cmpunk.livejournal.com/2003/11/12/

DLVH84 09-19-2011 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 3632896)
God, how did I forget this one?! So unprofessional of him.

There's a few more things why Verne Gagne was unprofessional.

1. Tried to take money and forced marriage to Hulk Hogan, in exchange for a title reign, which Hogan refused.

2. Tried paying off Iron Sheik to break Hogan's leg.

3. Broke off the Pro Wrestling USA collaboration, because he was so paranoid that he accused NWA's David Crockett of stealing his talent.

4. Refused to pay wrestlers for Super Clash III, which was why Jerry Lawler kept the belt.

5. Selfishly used the money to run the AWA to fight a legal battle concerning property he owned in Lake Minnetonka.

Innovator 09-19-2011 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chavo Classic (Post 3632933)
Perfect answer. Also another reason why CM Punk is god, for slapping the piss out of him in response.

http://cmpunk.livejournal.com/2003/11/12/

"CM Punk is a great guy because he did what he said he was going to do. He said he was going to slap the taste out of my mouth, and he walked up to me and slapped the taste out of my mouth."

Chavo Classic 09-19-2011 10:57 AM

It's easy to take a pop at DLVH84, but I always wonder if he deals with everything with lists. I picture his house littered with thousands of pieces of paper scrawled with lists. There's even lists drawn on the wall where he didn't have paper, or didn't have time to find paper when these lists 'come to him'. His bathroom reeks from the shit smeared on the wall to form barely legible lists.

MVP 09-19-2011 11:39 AM

Austin for walking out of WWE in 2002.

Rammsteinmad 09-19-2011 12:24 PM

Hulk Hogan. :yes:

Rammsteinmad 09-19-2011 12:24 PM

Does anyone have any specific videos of any of these Teddy Hart incidents? Was looking on youtube, but mostly only found promos and tribute videos.

The Jayman 09-19-2011 01:38 PM

John Morrison and Melina

Gertner 09-19-2011 01:38 PM

Bret Hart not doing the right thing and dropping the belt to HBK

Bret Hart stiffing HBK numerous times during their Iron Man match

DLVH84 09-19-2011 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MVP (Post 3633085)
Austin for walking out of WWE in 2002.

I remember that, because I was there in Atlanta, where he refused to put Brock Lesnar over on RAW.

Lara Emily 09-19-2011 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L L Cool G (Post 3633194)
Bret Hart not doing the right thing and dropping the belt to HBK

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Gertner 09-19-2011 04:31 PM

Bret should have dropped the belt. But everybody blows Bret here so your response isn't surprising.

#BROKEN Hasney 09-19-2011 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L L Cool G (Post 3633335)
Bret should have dropped the belt. But everybody blows Bret hear so your response isn't surprising.

He rarely ever has a point, but "hear" he does.

And totally on the money too.

Gertner 09-19-2011 04:37 PM

ugh, I recognized that and hoped to fix it before anybody noticed.

Innovator 09-19-2011 04:39 PM

Both guys were in the wrong. There.

Gertner 09-19-2011 04:40 PM

Shawn was protecting his company. Bret had nothing to lose and everything to gain.....yet WCW managed to screw that up, well half of the reason, the other half being Bret's not a big a star as people think.

XL 09-19-2011 05:13 PM

It ws a special set of circumstances. So, by usual standards of "doing business" he was in the wrong/being unprofessional.

Take into consideration that he was being asked to leave the company and he had to drop to a guy that was notorious for "not doing business" and it's not as black and white.

Lara Emily 09-20-2011 08:05 AM

Factor in same guy explicitly said he'd never drop it for Bret if the situation was reversed and furthermore add in that Vince McMahon gave Bret Hart creative control over how he left the company.

Innovator 09-20-2011 09:49 AM

Bret didn't do business and refused to do what his boss told him to, thought he was god in Canada and it would shatter the little hearts of every kid in the hallways who ever screamed BREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET.

HBK was a whiny little bitch, coked up, pilled up, and had the worst mullet ever. If he wasn't a primadonna, maybe Bret would have done business right.

The only person who did what they were supposed to was Hebner.

CM Punk was getting his picture taken with Stone Cold.

CSL 09-20-2011 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The MAC (Post 3632777)
Shawn michaels refusing to lose to Austin until taker started taping up his fists

Not exactly true, Taker was apparently taping his fists/threatening Michaels to make sure HBK did go through with it given his rep and umming and ahhing at the time

Quote:

Originally Posted by The MAC (Post 3632777)
hunter stiffing owen hart with a crutch during a shawn vs owen match

he hit him with a crutch no differently to how anybody else would have hit him with a crutch.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The MAC (Post 3632777)
Vince - firing Jeff jarret on tv, interviewing pillmans wife the day after the day he died, not stopping the show after owen died.

The same Jarrett that held Vince up for $250,000 before a PPV, the same Melanie Pillman that could have said no and the Over The Edge/Owen thing was an impossible situation.

MoFo 09-20-2011 10:17 AM

Angle seems a bit of a sulky prick, that Daniel Puder thing comes to mind.

Also, no JBL mention, wtf.

Gertner 09-20-2011 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 3633378)
It ws a special set of circumstances. So, by usual standards of "doing business" he was in the wrong/being unprofessional.

Take into consideration that he was being asked to leave the company and he had to drop to a guy that was notorious for "not doing business" and it's not as black and white.

Yes it is. The WWF was losing a ton of money. Bret just walking into the ring after beating their top star and just handing the belt over would have killed the company. Stop making excuses for this over-rated bitch.

RiX1024 09-20-2011 06:42 PM

JBL for being a bully.

Bob Holly for being a bully.

Theo Dious 09-20-2011 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lara Emily (Post 3633315)
:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Yeah that's about as intelligent and thought out a response as we're used to from you.

I can't believe we're doing Montreal again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 3634049)
HBK was a whiny little bitch, coked up, pilled up, and had the worst mullet ever. If he wasn't a primadonna, maybe Bret would have done business right.

Completely irrelevant. How many jobs can you think of where you don't have to do what the job requires because you don't like the guy you have to work with?

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 3633378)
Take into consideration that he was being asked to leave the company and he had to drop to a guy that was notorious for "not doing business" and it's not as black and white.

Straight from the "two wrongs make a right" box.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lara Emily (Post 3634007)
Factor in same guy explicitly said he'd never drop it for Bret if the situation was reversed...

Now playing the "what if?" game. Nice.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lara Emily (Post 3634007)
...and furthermore add in that Vince McMahon gave Bret Hart creative control over how he left the company.

Was not the phrasing "reasonable creative control?"

This pretty much sums up Bret Hart for me: "Hi kids, I'm Bret Hart, your Canadian hero, and I just want you to remember, when something doesn't go your way, you should hit someone in the face. Oh and destroy thousands of dollars of their property too."

AJHayes 09-20-2011 10:55 PM

Making a thread filled with rumors and absolutely no solid, substantial fact (that can be verified through direct witness).

Yay gossip.

Vastardikai 09-21-2011 01:55 AM

I would say that mine is verifiable.

AJHayes 09-21-2011 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vastardikai (Post 3634869)
I would say that mine is verifiable.

Yours is.

MVP 09-21-2011 12:28 PM

I knew this thread would turn into Montreal Screwjob Debate #548906734890573.

whiteyford 09-21-2011 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MVP (Post 3633085)
Austin for walking out of WWE in 2002.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DLVH84 (Post 3633197)
I remember that, because I was there in Atlanta, where he refused to put Brock Lesnar over on RAW.

Wasn't Austins issue that the match, the 1st between the two, was on TV rather than PPV?

McLegend 09-21-2011 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MVP (Post 3635141)
I knew this thread would turn into Montreal Screwjob Debate #548906734890573.

We haven't had one in like 2.5 years though.

We were due for one.

DLVH84 09-21-2011 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whiteyford (Post 3635156)
Wasn't Austins issue that the match, the 1st between the two, was on TV rather than PPV?

Yes, it was going to be a King Of The Ring qualifying match on Monday Night RAW on TV that night.

DLVH84 09-21-2011 12:49 PM

And the fact that the match was not saved for Pay-Per-View, really pissed him off.

MVP 09-21-2011 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whiteyford (Post 3635156)
Wasn't Austins issue that the match, the 1st between the two, was on TV rather than PPV?

I'm not sure, but it's still not an excuse for walking out on the company.

whiteyford 09-21-2011 03:03 PM

I see his point though even if walking out was a bit dramatic.

Rammsteinmad 09-21-2011 04:17 PM

Hulk Hogan. :yes:

Vastardikai 09-21-2011 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AJHayes (Post 3635133)
Yours is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vastardikai
Jeff Hardy showing up at the main event of a TNA PPV in no condition to perform, causing the main event to go 90 seconds due to his opponent not taking that shit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vastardikai, finishing off the triple quote
:p



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