Cain vs Dos Santos
 

I like Junior but I think Cain is gonna smash him.. Dos Santos has the better hands (slightly) but Cain will def out wrestle him if it gets hairy on the feet..

So who you got??

No clue to be honest. I like JDS so much from watching him on the Ultimate Fighter that I'll be cheering for him, and his boxing is very good, but it wouldn't surprise me if Cain came out and scored a first round KO either.

I will say this though, if Cain feels so overmatched in the standup that he needs to take this fight to the ground for an extended period of time, the ratings for the event will be shit. No one is tuning in to see a grappling match or hear Mike Goldberg drone on and on about Cain's great Arizona State wrestling pedigree or how it led to his friendships with Ryan Bader, C.B. Dolloway and Aaron Simpson. Plus I don't think either guy is so much better in jiu jitsu than the other that we'd see a submission.

I don't know who's gonna win, and I don't care....this will be epic!

I want to give JDS the edge simply because Cain is coming off a near year long layoff because of his injury and surgery.

It is crazy to think that Cain got mowed down by Lesnar and most likely tearing his shoulder trying to avoid the Lesnar train take down and still managed to muscle Lesnar off him, get back to the feet and TKO Lesnar with punches.

Cain is a beast in the gym so I wouldn't say he'll be rusty..

Cain is aggressive even when he's on the ropes and he doesn't panic. JDS is a good boxer but I have only seen his last 2 fights in which he won by decision and I don't know how he does in a tough situation so unless JDS knocks out Cain, I have Cain coming out on top.

FOX releases full schedule:

Don't no why they are showing all that on Fuel TV.. Why not just play them on FOX?? I mean what would you be disrupting?? Episodes of The Beverly Hillbillies or Andy Griffith??

Makes sense. You don't want MMA overload on the main network.

I understand that, but like the weigh-ins Friday and the post fight show Saturday should be availible to all fans, not just ones who happen to have Fuel TV..

Also, LOL @ "Cain Velasquez: Brown Pride", episodes 1-3 on FOX Deportes..

Really looking forward to this fight but I wish that they were showing Guida/Henderson on TV too.

Me too..

I read this earlier today..

Don't really see how a former WEC light weight champ vs. a fan favorite, pretty much for the number one contender spot in the UFC's deepest weight class wouldn't draw but hey, what do I know..

Im sure they will show it if the main event is real short

Especially since those two would bring it no matter what. It would also probably be a decent idea for them to showcase more than the heavyweights.

Nope. Apparently even if Cain/Junior only goes 30 seconds that's all we're getting.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/11/3...y-guida-on-fox

It's really silly. Like, I'm having a few people over to watch the show and we're all going to want to watch Guida/Henderson too but it's so shitty crowding around my tiny ass monitor to watch the fight when we could be watching it on my television.

I do not understand why the UFC's debut on Fox would only highlight one fight. Talk about putting all your eggs in one basket. Since it is only one fight I probably will not be too bothered if I miss it and in no way am I going to get together with a bunch of my friends to watch a single fight. On the other hand, if this was a full stacked card of fights you can bet your ass I won't miss it and probably have a few buddies over as well.

All FOX's decision..

Yeah, I've gone back and forth on this too. At first I thought it was a good idea to just feature the main event, but Guida v. Henderson has the potential to be an even more exciting fight. It would make sense for them to at least show the co-main event too.

At the same time, I can understand where Fox is coming from. Most people didn't/don't buy a Tyson, Roy Jones Jr., De La Hoya, Pacquiao or Mayweather PPV and sit down to watch the entire undercard. They tune in for the main event whether it goes 1 round or 12 3 minute rounds.

It's just risky because even if for some strange reason Guida/Henderson was a dud, they would still have the Velasquez/Dos Santos fight to potentially save it or vice versa. With only one fight, if it ends up being boring it will be hard to hype up the next one.

Yeah but there Saturday lineup as of late has been the World Series or replays of America's Most Wanted/sitcoms..

Seems a huge waste to not air atleast 4-5 of the fights..

They canceled Terminator:SCC, fuck Fox.

So, now Fox is going to be showing Guida/Henderson on TV with one other fight on FOX Deportes.

Doesn't help me at all, but maybe some of you get the channel.

The other thing is, the deal doesn't actually start until 2012. This show just serves as a "Bonus." So maybe Fox didn't want to commit to a full slate until they could ensure they'd have the production capabilities to "make it theirs." Just speculation on my part, but it may explain why things are so scattered.

2 million viewers. Apparently, it's a big deal because the UFC was down in its key demographic, so the bulk of the ratings came from people who don't normally watch the sport. Plus, they were going against football and the show aired in all sorts of weird timeslots.

They were going against the Steelers/Patriots game and I watched..

Where did you see this cause I can't find that news anywhere..

Got it from here: http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/11/4...irier-mma-news

edit- It's Fox Deportes though not the regular Fox channel.

So fucking gay..

Also, just an FYI, but BloodyElbow is kinda unreliable.. Not saying this isn't true but they have "reported" alot of shit that hasn't come true..

Really? I've found so far that the SBNation stuff is usually pretty good. Bloody elbow though is more of a blog and certain writers are definitely much better and more reliable than some of the others.

Where do you get your stuff?

MMAjunkie.com
MMAfighting.com
MMAnews.com
ESPN.com

Sometimes Sherdog..

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SB Nation just bought mmafighting.com from AOL. Ugh! I guess that sites going to be just as shitty as the garbage that gets thrown up on the SB Nation sites.

I saw that..

There are some quality news sites though..

I really don't get the SBNation hate. Regardless, I had heard about the acquisition last week. One of the writers on BE got fired right after it happened. Apparently he got into some twitter beef with Ariel Helwani like just days before and it seems that Helwani holds grudges.

Feel bad for the guy because he had one of the best weekly columns on the site.

In my opinion, most of the SB Nation content is crap. The MMA page looks like something a search engine spammer would make or a really shitty blog.

MMAfighting and MMA Junkie have legit sports reporters who are reliable and break news, not just submit bunk based more on opinion than fact. Luke Thomas is such a joke, he can't even get a UFC press pass so any news he "breaks" is second hand crap anyways. That's probably why they bought MMAfighting anyways. They want real credibility.

Got my Diaz 137 walk out shirt today..

woo??

If I'm reading the t.v. schedule right, the match selections and fight times are even more retarded.

If the prelims start at 4:45, they'll be done by 7:15 at the latest. They usually don't start until 6:15. That would mean there's a 2+ hour gap between the last prelim fight and the main event.

The people who bought a ticket to that show are going to be pissed. Especially if the Poirier/Garza & Guida/Hendo fights are fireworks like expected and then they have to sit through two different pre-shows. MMA, L.A. fans, booze and delays don't make for a good mix. They better have Arianny Celeste and Brittney Palmer stripping or something.

I hope every Fox show isnt just a one fight deal with the rest on Facebook.

btw for us Brits this is on Premier Sports if youve got it on Sky, cuz ESPN are fucking idiots.

foxsports.com is going to have the prelims as well as Facebook. At least the stream for the championship fight should be guaranteed top quality since it's on free tv.

So the entire event will not be on tv? Wtf?

I'll never understand why they didn't have Henderson vs. Guida on FOX and save Velasquez vs. Dos Santos for UFC 139 in San Jose next week.

Imagine 139 with Velasquez/Dos Santos, Henderson/Shogun, Bowles/Faber, Le/Silva, and Kingsbury/Bonnar.

I don't fault them for having this fight on Fox. If you're going to have your first shot on network television and try to get yourself on par with NASCAR, the MLB and the NFL you need to have the biggest attraction possible and that was Velasquez/Dos Santos at the time. Those guys are bigger draws than Guida/Henderson and at the time it was announced there was a possibility that that fight wouldn't even be for the #1 contender at 155.

UFC 139 is stacked without this fight and if I can get the HW belt for free on t.v. than having to buy a PPV or watch a shitty stream I'll take it.

Sick switch kick from Caseres.

That was a good fight

Im going to listen to this on Fox Sports Radio..haha..

MMA on the radio, probably only better than tennis and golf on the radio.

HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLE in one...

What a shitty ending for Semerzier. Wobbled by an accidental head butt and then TKOed! Damn.

Don't think i've seen that before. Guess Peralta had the harder head

Nice first round.

Being on the ground with a legit jiu jitsu black belt must feel like trying to get away from a boa constrictor.

Even worse, a boa constrictor with fists

Sneaky snakes

Amazing grappling skills

niceeee

Damn.

Step 1. Uppercut
Step 2. Celebrate
Step 3. Continue punching
Step 4. Win/Resume celebration
Step 5. Use words like butt and a hole

Beautiful

Swanson/Lamas might be fight of the night.

Lamas is all emotional talking about his grandmother passing and his wife's brother being pregnant and Rogan's follow up question is, "Ricardo, how tight was that guillotine choke he had on you?" Gotta love MMA interviews.

This should be good

This is exciting shit!

Damn exciting. Great round. Clay is awesome

And they couldn't put this on tv why?

These guys on Fox as co-main event would be legend. They'd be instant stars. What a waste.

Dana fucked up not putting this on t.v.

Amazing fucking fight

Edgar/Henderson will be sick.

You can tell Dana White is freakin out right now lol

I'm gonna watch this shit tonight to see what the big deal is. Can't be more serious business than rasslin though. Who should i root for? Who's the heel?

It's a Mexican and a Brazilian so they're both heels to you. #AMIRITE?

JDS via TKO RD1

Yessir. I dunno dude, 25 minutes in and no fight and this Stanford vs Oregon game is pretty good. Not sold on UFC at all

lotta boos for JDS

I want the one without that gay ass tattoo to win. Plus he's not Mexican so that's good. Also Kane>Cain Valasquez

WORST CASE SCENARIO

didnt even go 2 minutes

Holy Shit

Called it!

Yeah that sucked. Not ever gonna pay for this shit.

Well that was.... Crazy.

They only need 19 minutes of filler. Not that bad I guess. At least it wasn't boring.

what a fantastic debut for the ufc on primetime HAHAHAHAHAHA

I am the greatest

holy shit

Hopefully will show that Henderson/Guida fight now. Probably will just be Interviews and thats about it thou.

Thing is, this puts the UFC in a better position for an epic heavyweight fight. If Alistair beats Brock they get a sick stand up war. If Brock wins, JDS gets more shine.

Plus I love JDS. Great dude. 'Nother title for Blackhouse.

If one had never seen UFC before, and you see a guy hyped in the show as "the Perfect Fighter" get his ass handed to him in a minute, I dont think Im taking it too seriously.

Maybe this will show should be at least 2 fights on live shows. Hopefully they get another shot after this.