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Mr. JL 12-07-2011 01:40 PM

BOOM! GSP out over 10 months/Diaz vs. Condit (UFC 143 Thread)
 
An injury to his ACL has forced Georges St. Pierre out of his welterweight title fight against Nick Diaz at UFC 143.

Georges St. Pierre was set to defend his welterweight belt against Nick Diaz at UFC 137 before Diaz missed a media obligation. He was then scheduled to face Carlos Condit on the same card in a title defense. Then the news broke that he suffered an injury to his knee in practice and would defend his belt against Diaz at UFC 143. It appears that the injury was much worse than originally suspected as St. Pierre will be out for more than 10 months. The UFC is now scheduling Condit vs Diaz for the interim welterweight title.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/12/7...-interim-title

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Well this sucks.

Next Big Thing 12-07-2011 02:10 PM

If Diaz beats Condit can you imagine how much more hype and excitement will be surrounding a GSP/Diaz fight with Nick going in as the "interim" champion? Especially if he defends the title once or twice before the fight? Epic.

Nark Order 12-07-2011 02:12 PM

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1008/nooooooooo.jpg

Next Big Thing 12-07-2011 02:26 PM

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._3448448_n.jpg

St. Jimmy 12-07-2011 03:09 PM

MMA is a work, this is all a bullshit story to build hype for Diaz/GSP. You're all lemmings.

Mr. JL 12-07-2011 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Next Big Thing (Post 3697474)
If Diaz beats Condit can you imagine how much more hype and excitement will be surrounding a GSP/Diaz fight with Nick going in as the "interim" champion? Especially if he defends the title once or twice before the fight? Epic.

Yeah, it will be pretty big hype but I'm just wondering how the layoff and surgery is going to affect GSP's performance. The guy hasn't fought since April 2011. It's December now and assuming he has surgery right away we are looking at September/October to heal. Then he will definitely need time to get into fighting shape so we may not see GSP fight until early 2013.

Reavant 12-07-2011 04:01 PM

http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/

The Naitch 12-07-2011 04:45 PM

he "injured" himself so he wouldn't have to fight Anderson Silva, cuz YINNO, GSP is a HUGE PUSSY

MoFo 12-07-2011 05:07 PM

Ducking Diaz again.

weather vane 12-07-2011 05:29 PM

fuck

Next Big Thing 12-07-2011 05:58 PM

Or worse case scenario, Fitch somehow ends up the Welterweight Champ. That's worth a thousand NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.

Here's another interesting possibility, if Dana still has a hard on for GSP/Silva, what's the likelihood that he gives GSP extra time off once he's cleared in order to bulk up for 185 since GSP has said if he did move up he'd want time off to properly prepare?

If Dana wants that fight to happen, it needs to be by the time GSP is cleared to fight again anyways considering Anderson's age. Also, it wouldn't make sense for GSP to come back a Welterweight and win that title again only to vacate it and take even more time off to move up to Middleweight. Especially if the current champion at Welterweight ends up being someone GSP has already beaten like Fitch or Koscheck or someone he would have nothing to prove against like Jake Ellenberger.

Plus, it protects GSP by giving him a built in excuse (coming off surgery/long layoff/ ring rust) if he does get demolished by Anderson and decides to move back down to Welterweight.

What Would Kevin Do? 12-07-2011 07:50 PM

I feel bad for Condit. Shit, how many times has this fight been changed up on him?

Kris P Lettus 12-09-2011 03:52 PM

Damn..

Diaz will destroy Condit..

Stickman 12-10-2011 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus (Post 3699130)
Damn..

Diaz will destroy Condit..

Nah

Funky Fly 12-10-2011 03:32 PM

I actually don't mind GSP being out because it changes things up. We get an exciting interim title match and now that GSP is out of the picture, the top 10 guys get a chance to step up and shine for a bit before GSP returns and probably wrestlefucks them intoa fine red paste.

What Would Kevin Do? 12-10-2011 03:58 PM

I could also see this leading to Koscheck getting another title shot depending how things play out.

Jura 12-10-2011 04:35 PM

As much as Diaz/GSP might be really good, I would like to see Diaz in a match or two before going after the title.

Jimmy King 02-03-2012 01:20 PM

anybody gonna have a stream? considering firstrowsports.tv was my bread and butter stream but its gone

Jura 02-03-2012 08:30 PM

Wait until the ppv starts tomorrow night.

Jimmy King 02-03-2012 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jura (Post 3754783)
Wait until the ppv starts tomorrow night.

talking 2 me?

Kris P Lettus 02-04-2012 01:31 AM

Yes..

Kris P Lettus 02-04-2012 10:30 AM

http://mmaaddicts.com/dann/ufc-143-d...los-condit.JPG

Kris P Lettus 02-04-2012 10:32 AM

http://mmaaddicts.com/dann/ufc-143-d...cio-werdum.JPG

Jimmy King 02-04-2012 01:30 PM

anybody gonna have a stream?

The Mask 02-04-2012 03:30 PM

espn is free this weekend on sky/freeview etc for anyone in the uk who wants to watch this.

Jura 02-04-2012 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy King (Post 3755489)
anybody gonna have a stream?

Wait about 4 hours.

The Mask 02-04-2012 07:17 PM

shiiiit beautiful headkick ko by that thompson guy in the prelims

Vietnamese Crippler 02-04-2012 07:24 PM

Agreed.

Jimmy King 02-04-2012 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jura (Post 3755719)
Wait about 4 hours.

lol i hate to sound like an annoying bitch but i been waiting for this fucking fight since gsp pulled out and firstrowsport.tv got shut down 2 days ago soooooo i gotta find one

Vietnamese Crippler 02-04-2012 07:39 PM

Hint: there's more than one FirstRow Sports ;)

Jimmy King 02-04-2012 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vietnamese Crippler (Post 3755961)
Hint: there's more than one FirstRow Sports ;)

lol thats very cryptic of u sir feel free to pm me something :yes:

Vietnamese Crippler 02-04-2012 07:57 PM

Just type first row sports into Google ;)

Jimmy King 02-04-2012 07:59 PM

no fucking way lol

Jimmy King 02-04-2012 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vietnamese Crippler (Post 3755976)
Just type first row sports into Google ;)

it works!

What Would Kevin Do? 02-04-2012 08:09 PM

Of course it works, that specific domain was never owned by the guy who got busted.

With that said, do not post the actual links in the forum. They will be deleted.

Next Big Thing 02-04-2012 09:19 PM

For those who missed it... Watch the first round of the Caceres/Figueroa fight just for the low blow. To quote Joe Rogan, "It sounded like a home run."

Worst one I've seen yet.

Wehttam 02-04-2012 09:29 PM

2 points is quite ridiculous though.

Jimmy King 02-04-2012 09:30 PM

still 2 low blows is a bitch move

What Would Kevin Do? 02-04-2012 09:30 PM

Two brutal low blows, and two pretty brutal head kicks. Definitely enjoyed that fight.

What Would Kevin Do? 02-04-2012 09:31 PM

Both low blows were clearly accidental though. I really think the two point deduction was a bit much.

Wehttam 02-04-2012 09:32 PM

i dont think they were purposeful though. a warning, then a 1 point deduction seems appropriate. giving a 2 point deduction after a warning is just pretty much throwing the fight away.

Next Big Thing 02-04-2012 09:34 PM

I feel like the two point deduction was fair only because the brutality of those low blows probably took so much out of Figueroa that he would need that kind of compensation to make up for it if he did somehow manage to hang in there. And Herb Dean went out of his way to emphasize that it was a hard warning.

Wehttam 02-04-2012 09:35 PM

i could somewhat understand that. just never seen it before and was slightly shocked by it.

Wehttam 02-04-2012 09:37 PM

dana unhappy? huge surprise there.

What Would Kevin Do? 02-04-2012 09:41 PM

Holy hell at that submission.

What Would Kevin Do? 02-04-2012 09:41 PM

That was pretty much "Tap or I'm going to break your arm right in front of your face."

Next Big Thing 02-04-2012 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wehttam (Post 3756055)
dana unhappy? huge surprise there.

I missed it. What is Dana unhappy about?

Wehttam 02-04-2012 09:45 PM

the point deduction

Next Big Thing 02-04-2012 09:51 PM

Rogan makes Goldberg sound clueless sometimes. I feel like commentary would be much better if you had Rogan and Anik. Even better if Frank Mir goes into the booth full time when he retires.

owenbrown 02-04-2012 09:53 PM

damn that knockout just now

Skippord 02-04-2012 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by What Would Kevin Do? (Post 3756058)
Holy hell at that submission.

yeah, this is like the first UFC thing I've watched for more than 4 minutes and that was sick as fuck.

Wehttam 02-04-2012 10:05 PM

lets go condit and big country!

What Would Kevin Do? 02-04-2012 10:41 PM

My money is on Diaz, but god I hope he loses.

Also, as always, I'm rooting for KOS.

Wehttam 02-04-2012 10:44 PM

how could you do that?

Innovator 02-04-2012 10:58 PM

stream anyone? please?

What Would Kevin Do? 02-04-2012 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 3756133)
stream anyone? please?

Repped

WAR KOS!

What Would Kevin Do? 02-04-2012 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wehttam (Post 3756118)
how could you do that?

I don't know, I just really like Kos. He's actually a good fighter, and he knows how to hype fights.

Wehttam 02-04-2012 11:05 PM

i hate him and i hate his hair

Innovator 02-04-2012 11:26 PM

Kos should've lost a point there

What Would Kevin Do? 02-04-2012 11:27 PM

Might have to go with a split decision there, with Pierce getting the edge.

What Would Kevin Do? 02-04-2012 11:28 PM

Honestly could have went either way. I'm happy KOS won, BUT I wouldn't have been upset at all if Pierce would have won.

What Would Kevin Do? 02-04-2012 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 3756158)
Kos should've lost a point there

I have to disagree. A few guys fight like that. Yeah, it may lead to eye pokes, but you can't really warn for an eye poke before it happens.

Fighting like that isn't illegal, it's just bad because it can lead to pokes. Throwing a lot of inside leg kicks can lead to low blows, but you can't warn someone for throwing leg kicks, and take a point on the first low blow.

Wehttam 02-04-2012 11:31 PM

yea it was really a toss up

Blitz 02-04-2012 11:31 PM

Koschek won on name recognition.

RP 02-04-2012 11:57 PM

Nelson cracks me up.

Wehttam 02-05-2012 12:00 AM

nelson is one tough dude. but a decision for werdum is expected here. legit contender.

Blitz 02-05-2012 12:01 AM

Clear win for Werdum. Still, wtg Big Country for shrugging off about 300 kicks/knees to the head.

What Would Kevin Do? 02-05-2012 12:01 AM

Nelson is slowly winning me over, because he is legitimately a touch son of a bitch. He's like the opposite of Brock. He doesn't care that he's getting his ass kicked, he won't go down.

Blitz 02-05-2012 12:01 AM

Werdum should def be Fabricio "Doctor" Werdum though.

Nark Order 02-05-2012 12:03 AM

Congrats to random Brazilian guy #412.

What Would Kevin Do? 02-05-2012 12:09 AM

Come on Condit. Please break Diaz's jaw.

Innovator 02-05-2012 12:17 AM

I would die laughing if Bruce Buffer was yelling in my face

Innovator 02-05-2012 12:35 AM

good so far

Wehttam 02-05-2012 12:48 AM

match was a toss up. but im going with condit

What Would Kevin Do? 02-05-2012 12:49 AM

Definitely Condit.

Wehttam 02-05-2012 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by What Would Kevin Do? (Post 3756237)
Definitely Condit.

well, there you have it. i figured the judges would give more credit to nick for his aggression in the earlier rounds and possibly round 5. but im still happy with the result

Blitz 02-05-2012 12:51 AM

Didn't expect a unanimous decision there. Good for Carlos though.

What Would Kevin Do? 02-05-2012 12:54 AM

LMAO! Diaz is a bitch.

Blitz 02-05-2012 12:54 AM

lol Diaz is such a pussy.

Wehttam 02-05-2012 12:54 AM

what a gracious loser.

Corndad 02-05-2012 01:20 AM

Good Riddance. What a sore loser. Can't wait for Condit/GSP.

Droford 02-05-2012 02:20 AM

whats with people losing and quitting?

MoFo 02-05-2012 02:44 AM

No way Condit won 4 rds.

3 at a push.

James Steele 02-05-2012 04:05 AM

Both of the Diaz brothers are twats.

RP 02-05-2012 06:44 AM

Condit fight like a pussy.

Next Big Thing 02-05-2012 07:27 AM

There's no way in hell Condit deserved a unanimous decision, but he did win the fight in my opinion. I think Nick's style played a part in that though. He doesn't check leg kicks or even make an effort to block or avoid other strikes from his opponents, so they score/look good too.

Unfortunately, GSP vs. Condit isn't that intriguing to me.

Kris P Lettus 02-05-2012 08:51 AM

Yeah, Diaz GSP was my dream match..

Krimzon7 02-05-2012 09:10 AM

Aggression? Diaz only won the fifth round. This fight was never in doubt. Confit didn't worry about pace, he focused on distance, and he kept Diaz right where he wanted him(kick range). Did you realize that condit set a record for kicks landed? He landed as many different combinations as I have ever seen. I feel like Diaz was exposed as a one trick pony here. Yeah he's a black belt, but why didn't he use those skills? Cut angles, close distance, get to the ground and do work. If he changed his gameplan after getting schooled in the first, or second round...the fight could've come out differently.

Krimzon7 02-05-2012 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Next Big Thing (Post 3756403)
There's no way in hell Condit deserved a unanimous decision, but he did win the fight in my opinion. I think Nick's style played a part in that though. He doesn't check leg kicks or even make an effort to block or avoid other strikes from his opponents, so they score/look good too.

Unfortunately, GSP vs. Condit isn't that intriguing to me.

Gotta disagree here bro. Unanimous is fair here, but 50-45 is ludacris. I could not fathom Diaz winning

Next Big Thing 02-05-2012 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krimzon7 (Post 3756452)
Gotta disagree here bro. Unanimous is fair here, but 50-45 is ludacris. I could not fathom Diaz winning

No you're right. I meant to take issue with the idea that Condit won all five rounds. I don't have a problem with each judge giving him the win though. I was hungover when I typed that. Hell, I'm still hungover.

Stickman 02-05-2012 12:39 PM

Hate the Diaz losers so much, love when they lose.

Crimson 02-05-2012 01:18 PM

I thought it was 3-2 Condit. Rather have Diaz/GSP though Condit/GSP might be a bore fest.

Kris P Lettus 02-05-2012 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stickman (Post 3756647)
Hate the Diaz losers so much, love when they lose.

Hate them all you want but Diaz/GSP would've been epic.. the hype.machine started rolling on this match when Zuffa bought Strikeforce.. so hate him all you want, but.as an MMA fan you should've wanted him to win..

Jura 02-05-2012 10:05 PM

The fight can be close as hell each and every round but one fighter could actually win every round. Sometimes unanimous decisions are much closer fights than split decisions.

I kind of think Fabricio is dirty. He pointed to the ground multiple times trying to distract Nelson plus he put his fingers in Nelson's asshole in the first round. I don't think this is dirty but I noticed sometimes he goes down even if the other guy doesn't really tag him hard enough and tricks the other guy to come in for the kill so he can submit them.

I think GSP could take down Diaz at will easily. GSP is smart and can do what Condit did tonight but also has the take-down option at his disposal.

Krimzon7 02-05-2012 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Next Big Thing (Post 3756467)
No you're right. I meant to take issue with the idea that Condit won all five rounds. I don't have a problem with each judge giving him the win though. I was hungover when I typed that. Hell, I'm still hungover.

Must spread more rep!!!

Krimzon7 02-05-2012 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus (Post 3756911)
Hate them all you want but Diaz/GSP would've been epic.. the hype.machine started rolling on this match when Zuffa bought Strikeforce.. so hate him all you want, but.as an MMA fan you should've wanted him to win..

As an mma fan, I want a champion who can beat any fighter. DIAZ IS A ONE TRICK PONY, if you don't fight his fight, he struggles.

Kris P Lettus 02-05-2012 10:54 PM

lol

His last loss, beside the doctor stoppage against Noons and the cloudy piss no contest, was in 2006..

The Mask 02-06-2012 07:15 AM

Yeah but which top level promotions has he been in in time?

Kris P Lettus 02-06-2012 08:28 AM

UFC, Pride, Elite XC, Dream, and Strikeforce..

Kris P Lettus 02-06-2012 08:30 AM

So pretty much every "big" promotion of the last 6 years, minus Bodog Fights or IFL..


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