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Rammsteinmad 01-12-2012 05:02 PM

Are there any ex-ECW/WCW stars from back in the day who still have 'something to offer'
 
Was watching the dvd of a wrestling show in Germany in 2009 which had Steve Corino on it, and the audience were treating him like a god. Like seriously, you'd think he'd be on the same level as Hogan, Austin, Flair and Michaels etc. But realistically Steve Corino was what? An upper-midcard ECW guy for a couple of years... at best. (?)

Anyways, a bit of topic there... the whole thing just made me wonder if there are still any ex-ECW/WCW guys that you guys think can still bring something to the table. Or that can still be 'relevant' today.

Shockingly, the first name that comes to mind for me is Shannon Moore. A quick Wikipedia search tells me he is only 32 years old! :eek: Feels like he's been around forever! He still has a few good years left in him, nothing's really stopping him from ever achieving more success in TNA or an eventual WWE return.

So anyways, discuss.

Razzamajazz 01-12-2012 05:09 PM

hogan still has the name value
sting might bring in some older fans for the nostalgia

James Steele 01-12-2012 05:12 PM

Corino was ECW World Champion.

whiteyford 01-12-2012 05:13 PM

Still think Rhino was wasted in WWE, the gore was over and he was pretty solid in the ring. Seemed like he was a due a push before his injury and then he got released.

Rammsteinmad 01-12-2012 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 3730911)
Corino was ECW World Champion.

Really? Don't remember this. Can't be bothered to check either, so I'll take your word for it. He's still pretty irrevelant though (except, for his use as an example in my thread).

FourFifty 01-12-2012 05:19 PM

I still believe that the Dudley Boyz have something more to offer than just a name, but if you're looking for someone closer to the unemployment line, I'm gonna say no dice. The wrestling industry needs to focus on the stars of next year.
Let's face it- we don't want to watch John Cena with a receding hair line saying "The Champ Is Here" as a 60 year old man grabs the bling belt. We know that The Undertaker is bound for retirement anytime soon. Triple H is also on his way out. Orton is still solid (albeit I knew how he landed the RKO would bite him on the ass, or back), as is Del Rio (Also out for the time being).
TNA cannot expect a solid main event scene in 5 years from Sting, Kurt Angle, Jeff Hardy, Hulk Hogan, and Ric Flair. They should look more towards (INSERT 3-4 RANDOM TNA NAMES HERE ALONG WITH BEER MONEY) to take over the main event. It'll also save them cash when they can phase out Hogan and Flair's paychecks.

Corporate CockSnogger 01-12-2012 05:20 PM

Stacy Keibler and lots of her

Droford 01-12-2012 05:23 PM

Im gonna assume Jericho/Rey Mysterio/RVD/Christopher Daniels/Kid Kash (LOL)/Booker T/Big Show/etc don't count?

Rammsteinmad 01-12-2012 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FourFifty (Post 3730925)
TNA cannot expect a solid main event scene in 5 years from Sting, Kurt Angle, Jeff Hardy, Hulk Hogan, and Ric Flair. They should look more towards (INSERT 3-4 RANDOM TNA NAMES HERE ALONG WITH BEER MONEY) to take over the main event.

http://halodreams0.tripod.com/sitebu...re_profile.jpg

:D

Droford 01-12-2012 05:28 PM

TNA's main events in 5 years will probably be held in a half empty high school gym so Shannon Moore being a main eventer would work.

CSL 01-12-2012 05:32 PM

William Goldberg

Ermaximus 01-12-2012 05:32 PM

I think Steven Richards and Tajiri could still offer something.

Droford 01-12-2012 05:39 PM

Tajiri and Yoshi Tatsu would be an awesome tag team.

CSL 01-12-2012 05:42 PM

could WWE get away with calling them The Happy Jappys?

ace3025 01-12-2012 05:49 PM

If brought in for nostalgia yes, for in-ring no. WCW/ECW closed down 11 years ago. Thats a pretty long time when it comes to the wear and tear of someones body. The people that we wanted to see in WWE we already, for the most part. Whether they were handled right or wrong is a different story.

Lots of different people could be thrown in to todays storylines, Booker T is a perfect example, but they really would only have a short stint worth of action.

Although I hear that guy Seven from WCW might be making a comeback soon.

Avenger 01-12-2012 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ermaximus (Post 3730936)
I think Steven Richards and Tajiri could still offer something.

21 time hardcore champion

#1-norm-fan 01-12-2012 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 3730927)
Im gonna assume Jericho/Rey Mysterio/RVD/Christopher Daniels/Kid Kash (LOL)/Booker T/Big Show/etc don't count?

Christopher Daniels was an ex ECW/WCW star? :wtf:

CSL 01-12-2012 06:08 PM

star is a strong word but he was under contract to WCW when he still had hair

VSG 01-12-2012 06:12 PM

What the FUCK is that new avatar of yours?

Lock Jaw 01-12-2012 06:13 PM

AJ Styles was part of the critically acclaimed Air Raid tag team in the dying days of WCW.

But anyways, to answer the question....

Disco Inferno and Alex Wright.

#1-norm-fan 01-12-2012 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSL (Post 3730967)
star is a strong word but he was under contract to WCW when he still had hair

I do not remember him in WCW at all.

CSL 01-12-2012 06:17 PM

you wouldn't, WCW had roughly 4.3 million wrestlers under contract between like 1995 and 2001. I don't even remember him having a match, just being in the background of some segments

CSL 01-12-2012 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VSG (Post 3730972)
What the FUCK is that new avatar of yours?

in-deed :cool:

RiX1024 01-12-2012 06:40 PM

Chris Chetti and Nova...underrated. Same with Doring and Roadkill.

MoFo 01-12-2012 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RiX1024 (Post 3731011)
Nova...underrated.



:y:

He already was jobber ass Simon Dean in WWE though.

:(

Joel Gertner should def be on commentary though

:love:

Malfeitor 01-12-2012 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 3730975)
I do not remember him in WCW at all.

I think there's a clip somewhere of him wrestling in WCW and damn near breaking his neck, I could be mixing him up with someone else though.

Xero 01-12-2012 07:11 PM

Nova/Simon Dean is pretty happy where he is not wrestling except for fun. Does audio on PWInsider once in a while. He actually worked in the WWE offices for a while.

FourFifty 01-12-2012 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSL (Post 3730945)
could WWE get away with calling them The Happy Jappys?

Give them a greaser gimmick and call them Happy J's.

Dante69 01-12-2012 07:19 PM

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Nicky Fives 01-12-2012 07:39 PM

Stacy Keibler will always have something to offer.....

Juan 01-12-2012 07:40 PM

http://sportsmedia.ign.com/sports/im...818523-000.jpg

Testicle 01-12-2012 07:40 PM

Steve Corino is the fucking man. Watch your god damn mouth.

DLVH84 01-12-2012 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 3730918)
Really? Don't remember this. Can't be bothered to check either, so I'll take your word for it. He's still pretty irrevelant though (except, for his use as an example in my thread).

Steve Corino won the title from Jerry Lynn at ECW's November To Remember in November 2000. He would hold onto the title for a little over two months, before losing the title to The Sandman at ECW last pay-per-view, Guilty As Charged in January 2001.

Supreme Olajuwon 01-12-2012 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malfeitor (Post 3731053)
I think there's a clip somewhere of him wrestling in WCW and damn near breaking his neck, I could be mixing him up with someone else though.

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1:30 or so

Ruien 01-13-2012 12:07 AM

Does Booker T count?

Asmo 01-13-2012 12:22 AM

Would have to pick Steven Richards. Rob Van Dam for the nostalgia, but Richards will show you, and you'll see.

el bobbo 01-13-2012 03:02 AM

RVD is phoning it in for TNA. If WWE offered him something I'm sure he'd pick his fitness regimen back up and take it to a new level. Not on a touring basis, but for a 'last hurrah' level.

Autobahn 01-13-2012 06:57 AM

Alex Wright.

Alex Fucking Wright.

Anybody Thrilla 01-13-2012 01:55 PM

Steve Corino isn't really doing much in ROH currently.

Iop 01-13-2012 02:38 PM

http://royalrumbler.files.wordpress....jerry-sags.jpg

Mr. Nerfect 01-13-2012 08:17 PM

Steve Corino seems like a guy that is constantly evolving his character, so I think he's got about as much chance as anyone at being relevant.

I'm not going to lie -- I'd mark out for a Rhyno comeback. Even if Christian brought him back to be his "Beast on a Leash" that Gores people he doesn't like. Bully Ray has also matured into an all-round amazing performer in TNA, as well.

Providence Peep 01-13-2012 10:52 PM

Mark Jindrak was always a solid wrestler and never really got a legitimate shot. I'd like to see him back in the WWE. The same goes for Sean O'Haire.

Stickman 01-14-2012 01:39 PM

Marty Jannety needs a big push.

RiX1024 01-14-2012 03:31 PM

I agree with Marty Jannetty, I agree with Joel Gertner....how about Don Callis/Cyrus/The Jackyl? great on the mic.

Gertner 01-14-2012 03:33 PM

http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com...ryflynn/04.jpg

Nuff said.

Gertner 01-14-2012 03:35 PM

http://www.accelerator3359.com/Wrest...s/glacier2.jpg

Blood Runs Cold Bitch.

RiX1024 01-14-2012 04:01 PM

How about El Dandy?

Gertner 01-14-2012 04:05 PM

I'm afraid he's already been doubted by the WWE

RiX1024 01-14-2012 04:12 PM

Good one, I thought Bret Hart would of given them a good word.

DLVH84 01-14-2012 08:41 PM

Marty Jannetty
Brad Armstrong
Bobby Eaton
Stevie Richards

Corporate CockSnogger 01-14-2012 08:53 PM

Hey DLVH, I'd like to know what those guys, especially 57 year old Bobby Eaton, would bring to the table in modern day wrestling?

Gertner 01-14-2012 09:01 PM

Respect, honor, integrity and the fighting spirit.

Rammsteinmad 01-14-2012 09:45 PM

Bobby Eaton hasn't even entered his prime yet. He's still got a lot to offer.

CSL 01-14-2012 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DLVH84 (Post 3732919)
Marty Jannetty
Brad Armstrong
Bobby Eaton
Stevie Richards

good god

Damndirty 01-14-2012 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Providence Peep (Post 3732367)
Mark Jindrak was always a solid wrestler and never really got a legitimate shot. I'd like to see him back in the WWE. The same goes for Sean O'Haire.


Sean O'Haire was always one of my favorites. I thought he had championship potential.

Rammsteinmad 01-14-2012 10:03 PM

I was a HUUUUUGE O'Haire mark back in the day. I definitely remember thinking/hoping/knowing he'd be a huge star one day. :(

DLVH84 01-14-2012 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iginfest (Post 3732947)
Hey DLVH, I'd like to know what those guys, especially 57 year old Bobby Eaton, would bring to the table in modern day wrestling?

Those guys have always been the workhorses for ECW, WCW, and WWF. They have always been willing to help out the younger talent, all the while put on good matches against them, win or lose. And Bobby was one of the first people to put over Austin when he first joined WCW, even dropping the World TV title to him.

CSL 01-14-2012 11:43 PM

now what the shit does that have to do with anything in this thread?

Corporate CockSnogger 01-15-2012 08:34 AM

That's what Cody Rhodes needs to take that step to the next level, a feud against Bobby Eaton.

Skippord 01-15-2012 08:45 AM

Then he can feud with the whole Armstrong gang before jobbing the title to Bullet Bob

Damndirty 01-15-2012 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 3733067)
I was a HUUUUUGE O'Haire mark back in the day. I definitely remember thinking/hoping/knowing he'd be a huge star one day. :(


I remember being disappointed when they kinda ditched him with the rest of the Alliance guys, and then he came back with Rowdy, thinking they had some major plans for him.... then he disappeared again.

whiteyford 01-15-2012 03:06 PM

Id like to see Raven as a manager,not gonna happen after the lawsuit but he'd be a great mouth piece for someone.

Ultra Mantis 01-15-2012 03:32 PM

Always felt Lodi's sign ideas could really freshen up the stale lower midcard scene.

Gertner 01-15-2012 03:47 PM

I'd be on pins and needles waiting for Eaton to snap and become a loner submission machine!

Rollermacka 01-15-2012 06:06 PM

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Who would of thought that of all the talented wrestlers in this match what Shannon Moore would be the one wrestling for a major company. I always thought Johnny the Bull (thats killer spelled backwards) deserves andother shot in the WWE or TNA.

Dante69 01-16-2012 12:12 PM

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Innovator 01-16-2012 01:17 PM

Let ECW and WCW go.

Rollermacka 01-16-2012 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante69 (Post 3734676)
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Majority of the Luchadores from the mid 90s, to include the few that were apart of WWE for a short time, are still wrestling in Mexico and would be great to see again. LA Park (WCW's La Parka), Halloween, Damian, Cibernetico, Silver Cain (Silver King), Lizmark jr, Psychosis, Juvi, X Fly, Hector Garza, are all still going strong. If TNA picked 3 or 4 and added them to the X Division or made a couple of tag teams, it would add a new dynamic to their roster. There is still an audience who enjoy Lucha Libre in America and it would be a good idea for one company to capitalize on that.

Robodiv 01-16-2012 04:19 PM

Ultimate Warrior. Only because he just retweeted a picture of my hilarious warrior tattoo.

RiX1024 01-16-2012 07:04 PM

Shane Douglas, that tubby attention seeking promo style legend.

DLVH84 01-16-2012 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rollermacka (Post 3734800)
Majority of the Luchadores from the mid 90s, to include the few that were apart of WWE for a short time, are still wrestling in Mexico and would be great to see again. LA Park (WCW's La Parka), Halloween, Damian, Cibernetico, Silver Cain (Silver King), Lizmark jr, Psychosis, Juvi, X Fly, Hector Garza, are all still going strong. If TNA picked 3 or 4 and added them to the X Division or made a couple of tag teams, it would add a new dynamic to their roster. There is still an audience who enjoy Lucha Libre in America and it would be a good idea for one company to capitalize on that.

I heard Damian 666 is going to retire soon. Other than that, I think it would be great seeing them again.

#1-norm-fan 01-16-2012 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DLVH84 (Post 3732919)
Marty Jannetty
Brad Armstrong
Bobby Eaton
Stevie Richards

Your forgot Tom Zenk

Seth82 01-16-2012 11:17 PM

Steve Corino is awesome

would love to see him in WWE

also what about Jerry Lynn

James Steele 01-17-2012 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DLVH84 (Post 3732919)
Marty Jannetty
Brad Armstrong
Bobby Eaton
Stevie Richards

Dear DLVH84,

I feel now would be a good time to communicate some things to you that I feel will make your TPWW experience much greater while also helping the rest of us enjoy your company.

First, regarding the list above that started this whole reply:

  • Marty Jannetty has wrestled in WWE multiple times dating back to 2005. He offered nothing more than nostalgia pops and was still overshadowed by Shawn Michaels. I also think he gave his all to wrestling while plying his trade in AWA and WWF from the 80s to early 90s.
  • Brad Armstrong appeared on ECW on Sci-Fi as an announcer and was shitcanned after like 1-2 weeks. He is a major contributor to WWE currently as a "producer" and trainer.
  • Bobby Eaton is loyal to Jim Cornette and Jim Cornette feels utter scorn towards WWE. Also, Bobby Eaton is a shell of his former self and only woman with grey forests on their vaginas would care to see him again.
  • Stevie Richards' greatest fame came from his WWE tenure when he was a member of the J.O.B. Squad, lead The Right to Censor, helped get Victoria over in 2002-2003, and was the main attraction on the highly rated "Stevie Night HeAT" programme.He proved that his is nothing without Paul Heyman or Vince McMahon behind him because his tenure in TNA was a joke and lowered his value to WWE by leaps and bounds. I am surprised he isn't currently jacking off Justin Credible in the walk-in freezer at Olive Garden.

Now, please quit trying to make up for your small penis and mancrush on Van Halen by showing everybody how many obscure wrestling references you can pull out of your shit-encrusted ass. Also, I am shocked that you can pull said references out of said shit-encrusted ass considering how much room your head takes up considering it is firmly lodged up your aforementioned shit-encrusted ass.

Have a great day, God bless you, God bless America, and God Bless Triple H!

Sincerely,

James Emmitt Steele III, Esq.

#1-norm-fan 01-17-2012 03:41 AM

GOOD LORD!

James Steele 01-17-2012 04:05 AM

Also, I bet we see La Parka vs John Cena in MSG at WrestleMania XXX.

RiX1024 01-17-2012 06:50 AM

La Parka can outpop Cena, one for me and one for my homies.

whiteyford 01-17-2012 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seth82 (Post 3735462)
Steve Corino is awesome

would love to see him in WWE

Sure he had a trial last year but didn't get offered a contract,would fit well on Smackdown though.

James Steele 01-17-2012 07:55 AM

Speaking of La Parka (technically L.A. Park for you lucha gurus), I think AAA should sue WWE for blatantly ripping off their epic TripleMania XVIII storyling of L.A. Park (The Original La Parka) vs La Parka (Jr. - Fake La Parka, made La Parka by AAA owner when Original Parka was in WCW) with this whole Sin Cara nonsense last year. Seriously...is nothing sacred to Vince McMahon?

James Steele 01-17-2012 07:57 AM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...9/TM18Park.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...lemania-18.jpg

What do you think DLVH?

Skippord 01-17-2012 12:20 PM

little known fact: The original La Parka is Bobby Eaton

MoFo 01-17-2012 01:04 PM

Big fan of Juvi Guerrera's meth-influenced promos, but cant see them being allowed in WWE.

ECW had mad slutty divas though, good shit.

whiteyford 01-17-2012 01:31 PM

Dont think any have aged all that well though, i miss Beulah

DLVH84 01-17-2012 01:37 PM

Kimona Wanalaya, baby.

Rollermacka 01-17-2012 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 3735797)

LA Park is still one of the biggest draws in Mexico today. If anyone watched Lucha Libre USA for the two weeks it was back on MTV 2 he had a match on there.
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DLVH84 01-17-2012 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 3735796)
Speaking of La Parka (technically L.A. Park for you lucha gurus), I think AAA should sue WWE for blatantly ripping off their epic TripleMania XVIII storyling of L.A. Park (The Original La Parka) vs La Parka (Jr. - Fake La Parka, made La Parka by AAA owner when Original Parka was in WCW) with this whole Sin Cara nonsense last year. Seriously...is nothing sacred to Vince McMahon?

Don't forget the Psicosis vs. Psicosis feud as well.

Bad News Gertner 02-16-2014 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DLVH84 (Post 3732919)
Marty Jannetty
Brad Armstrong
Bobby Eaton
Stevie Richards

Lol the reactions to this post were the greatest ever.

#1-norm-fan 02-16-2014 10:48 PM

I'd like to see DLVH's updated list.

#1-norm-fan 02-16-2014 10:51 PM

Paul Roma
Villano IV
Dave Sullivan
Bobby Eaton

Shisen Kopf 02-16-2014 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4379188)
I'd like to see DLVH's updated list.

DLVH vanished off the face of the earth. Shame really, he was a very ok poster.

Bad News Gertner 02-16-2014 10:53 PM

Steve Armstrong
Bobby Eaton
Jumpin Jim Brunzell
Iceman King Parsons

CSL 02-17-2014 06:17 AM

Jim Brunzell was still under contract in like 1994, had no idea until randomly coming across him on an old RAW match last week

CSL 02-17-2014 06:18 AM

*entirely relevant Jumping Jim Brunzell post*

SlickyTrickyDamon 02-17-2014 06:23 AM

In terms of in ring? Probably not. Creatively maybe. Dreamer/Raven/Douglas as bookers maybe,

#1-norm-fan 02-17-2014 06:50 AM

RVD, BTW.

SlickyTrickyDamon 02-17-2014 06:59 AM

Same old shit.

#1-norm-fan 02-17-2014 08:13 AM

lolSTD

Bobholly138 02-18-2014 10:12 AM

Stevie Richards can still go. Seen him live 2 times in the past 2 years.


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