Some questions for DLVH *NOW WITH LOLCATS*
 

Ok dude, seriously, I can't tell anymore if you're just purposely trolling us or think you're in some kinda elitist club or something, but come on, saying Bobby Eaton still has something to offer and Inoki vs Ali was the greatest moment in pro wrestling is kinda taking it far enough.

So let's talk about modern wrestling of the American variety.

What wrestlers do you like? What storylines and angles did you enjoy? What are some memorable matches? What do you think about WWE's current state? Storylines/wrestlers etc.

The rules: No one over the age of 40 (this means of course, at the time of the match/angle etc), preferably without any kind of background in Japan or Mexico or wherever else you get your boners from. Lets try to keep it to mainstream US wrestling, WWE, WCW or TNA.

I dunno, talk wrestling with us without douching up a thread about how Bobby Eaton can still 'go' or something. Nobody here cares about Kinitsu Hyabushi Yamasako Geneshi Fujisara's legendary match against Bill from 1963, so talk wrestling with us that the majority of TPWW can relate to.

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:lol: Bobby Eaton is awesome

DLVH's favorite WWE wrestlers are Tajiri, Taka Michinoku, Dick Togo, Sho Funaki, Kenzo Suzuki, and Jimmy Wang Yang who debuted his cowboy gimmick on the January 14th edition of Friday Night SmackDOWN! in 2007.

Also Big Show, oddly enough.

i support DLVH

Yes, but are you Pro Peep?

does he post in this forum? if so he doesnt stand out in the slightest...prolly the other 47 christian avys around here

Yeah, he has a Christian avatar. LOL.

Knew I should have had that ©'d. :foc:

Just wanna say a few things about this right fast:

1. Inoki/Ali has every right to come up amongst people who are actually well studied in the history of wrestling as one of if not the biggest moments ever. A PRO WRESTLER BROKE THE LEG OF THE GREATEST FIGHTER IN THE WORLD FOR REAL IN HIS PRIME. i dont think i need to elaborate.

2. Bobby had a blood tranfusion 3 years back and is very crisp in the ring now. says he feels like he's 20 again, and looks it by the way he's working...that said he's ancient tho and that doesnt make money.

i stick to this on this board...otherwise you'd just have a convo with yourself...that or people being "elitist" over the fact they watch the most mainstream product out there...

love tpww but you know its true.

like out of all the classic retards on this forum across the ages who would you compair him to?

Dlvh is the man

CSL gets it.

I don't really have a problem with DLVH except he always goes on about Japanese or ancient wrestlers. I like the odd bit of Japanese or 1970's wrestling now and then, but jeez I've never seen the guy say anything about wrestling over the last ten years. CSL said it best:

I think Bobby Eaton is great. He was a great wrestler. Crazy underrated. That being said, while I can't remember the exact context of that Bobby Eaton comment DLVH made, I do remember when I read it I instantly thought "Wow, really???" lol

Simply because someone enjoys a more.. shall wesay esoteric l.. form of wrestling doesn't mean they should hide it from the forum. Keep being yrseld.man. the people who know or care will always love yr posts

nah...why have a convo with people about something they dont know about? i mean if it comes up then yeah go there....but otherwise whats the point?

It was my thread, I was asking which wrestlers people thought from 'back in the day' (mainly meaning ECW and WCW during the Attitude Era) could 'still bring something to the table' today.

People being bought up mostly were the likes of Tajiri, Steve Corino, Mark Jindrak, Rob Van Dam etc. DLVH then went on to list people like Bobby Eaton, Marty Janetty, Brad Armstrong I think and someone else.

From Clox, an endorsement is a death knell.

As I said above, I don't mind a bit of Japanese Wrestling or whatever, but the guy can be quite grating with it. I mean, if this is ALL he talks about, surely there's an internet forum somewhere especially designated for this kinda thing. TPWW is clearly centered around mainstream wrestling.

Yeah, that's just weird.

A typical DLVH post would appear like this:

"Who do you think is the single greatest professional wrestler of all time... Ever?!"

"Hulk Hogan... Hulk Hogan... Steve Austin... Hulk Hogan... Steve Austin... Steve Austin... Hulk Hogan... Kinitsu Hyabushi Yamasako Geneshi Fujisara... Steve Austin... Hulk Hogan"

It's kinda like "ok, we get it, you like Japanese wrestling from the 70's". :roll:

i dont see anythign wrong with that really but ok.

yeah none of them would make a dime.

Cept RVD

As far as modern American wrestling goes, I'd say Dolph Ziggler and CM Punk are the most consistent. They put on great matches, win or lose.

YES! This is what I'm talking about! Please share more!

I believe WWE should focus more on wrestling, to tell you the truth.

And with Vince Russo finally gone, I hope TNA can improve.

there are so many issues in that company not named russo...long story short i wouldnt get excited.

It's still a step in the right direction. "The longest journey" and all that.

Funny thing, their Knockouts div. is excellent.

I don't think Japanese wrestling is better, just more realistic in the ring, thus more entertaining to me. I understand that the story of WWE and the big moments are truly amazing and one of a kind there. This appealed to me much more when i was younger. However WWE is more than just nostalgia, when a name who i know can work goes to wwe, i don't dread it. I just think like most of us WWE was/is not as good as it was in the 90s and some say that is because of this or that blah blah, some would just look elsewhere and say, maybe if wwe had a bit of this or that.


dlvh is ust trying to expose people to something different. some people will always hate indie wrestling or japanese wrestling or brittish wrestling or american wrestling, for whatever reason. I think it's all equally great, i love pro wrestling. I would however like to see a more varied form of wrestling from the company that is called WORLD wrestling...

i think people give russo too much credit for the bad ideas that go throug that company.

and yes, the knock out division is very good. its the best you could hope for from mainstream womens wrestling, its something they've gotten right very consistantly.

basically i love wwe, but I'd rather it have a little more variety. I fi hated wwe i'd want it to be more like TNA not ROH... if that makes sense.

In my expereince, and this could be contributed to any number of reasons, when i was a kid and i showed people wwe who hated wrestling, they still didn't like it. Now when i show ROH or a more realistic style match to people whether they like wwe or not, It seems like they really enjoy it. I have made this point many times, this does not mean i think its better, i just believe if given the proper format, it would draw.

And before anybody says it, i'm not talking about wwe adopting fighting spirit for smaller guys or having 10 near falls per match after 20 head bumps. I'm saying more thought out in ring product with a wider variety of styles.

Except when the knockouts title changed hands via a random lockbox being opened.

i've made this statement many times: with the rise of mma wrestling has to go one of two ways 1. back to the cartoon style of the 80's fed stuff or 2. hyper realism showcasing that athleticism of the workers ala puro.

seeing as how over a long enough period of time the hyper realistic style in japan has fallen i think this leaves the cartoon stlye (that i hate) as the only logical progression of wrestling in this current market.

this saddens me.

I would rather watch 2 hrs of classic AJPW stuff then the shit on RAW

I think it's stupid that people like Ramm think less of you if you like something older

I could watch anything from the old territories over most of the shit out now

I do however like guys such as CM Punk and Steve Corino

:lol: they arent perfect

people dislike falsies? then how is jericho so over on here?

head drops i get to a degree.

Seth82 is fantastic ftr

I love Raw. I think it can get by on skits and storyline development. Not focusing on great in ring action very often on free TV and instead building angles makes those great matches on PPV so worth it and not just 3 hour Raws that you're supposed to pay 40 bucks for.

lol. Woah there... I did not write that...

its says you did....gotta go with that

quotes dont lie

lol. Am I having a stroke?

thanks destor

you sir are one of the few around who enjoy the same type of wrestling

you're pretty cool as far as I've seen

I don't think the hyper realistic stuff has fallen that much in Japan. It's just there hasn't been an evolution over there since the late 90s... just like here!

I mean Junior style would probably get over pretty welll on tv, as would puro, it doesn't matter what they do in the ring to the wwe marks, as long as the story is good, but to people who are curious puro would most def pull in more fans just for the.. WHAT IS THIS... IS THIS REAL?.. WAIT.. oh ok.. WOAHHAHH factor.

seriously that last line is how most people i know react to ROH/Puro

the gates are way down, its on a serious decline.

seems like the thousand false finishes of ROH matches get lumped in with the no selling, million head bumps etc.

Don't get me wrong I LOVE hyper realistic ROH spotfests and the like and hours of chaining, but i was trying to cover my ass before i got trolled before saying i thought that should be on wwe.

and to be honest I didn't read the entire thread

just skimmed it abit

I've always gotten the feeling though that alot of you guys thumb your noses and look down on japanese wrestling/classic territories

if it wasn't from the attitude era or newer then my golly it must be shit

educate yourselves on classic old school wrestling

hell I'll watch stuff from the 50's and 60's even

Because they haven't evolved, as soon as the next big style comes through BOOOOOOM

Yeah old school is where its at.

those posts seem to contradict each other when in fact they are just multiple dimentions. both a square and a circle.. a cylander if you will.

I'm only aware of the mainstream stuff, so I can definitely appreciate the things that guys like DLVH and Seth82 are posting on here, whether it be something historical, from the Indy circuits or internationally.

:heart: you a lot right now. ive been here for years tho and have accpeted that they like what they like and im cool with it. *I* think they're missing out, but it doesnt affect anyone's enjoyment of wrestling (mine or theirs) so whatever.

outside of lucha there isnt any style i wont watch, it's like candy.

What happens is that people like Tanawesome get the raw end of the deal, because people like (whoever) troll the puro/indy fans.

or they simply want something different than you/I/whomever does. its all subjective...doesnt make you part of the master race.

no not really

I do enjoy some things about the modern product

CM Punk is pretty much the greatest thing on RAW these days

I enjoy him and quite a few modern guys

what... i didn't mean the japanese people havent evolved. I meant that the Last big style injection was junior, maybe hybrid... that was like early 90s late eighties. it didn't get to america till super 8 pretty much. and it's just now getting popular here. Japan had hardcore before we did, mexico had luchas, wwf/ wcw basically used those two styles to pad the showman style matches. Now all we have is the same genre matches for the most part.

Look at sin cara, the guy could obviously go, same with low ki, but they don't have enouhg people who can work various styles, they all come from fcw/ovw, and they are drones. no offense, i'm sure they love wreslting and work really hard, but they aren't moving the industry forward at all.

How do you guys read threads? i often read it like first post to last, unless it's a subject i don't care much about.

first i read posts that are mutliples of 3 follwed by posts that are multiples of 5 ( however never read posts 15,30,45,etc) then i read all prime post backward and then i read the first post if it wasnt a prime number, and finally i edit all the even numbered post to tell everyone how awesome i am.

I feel like I should be contributing something to this thread, but anything I would have said has pretty much already been covered.

I enjoy wrestling. My tastes are broad. I like different aspects of different things. If you want to have narrow tastes, that's your choice. It doesn't hurt me any. And if you want to bash indy wrestling, or puro, go right ahead. As long as you actually use logic, I don't care. I'm just annoyed by people who blindly bash it despite having never really watched it.

Also, I need to find a site with good Dragon Gate coverage.

well you clearly missed my post where i never claimed to be part of the master race.

I read the first 7 words of every other post. Then I think about kittens.

Ok originally instead of saying how do you guys read threads, i was gonna say, 'destor did you not read what i wrote', but i felt like that was sorta whiny, so i just said a generic question which seemed random and is now leading to hilarity (cough) filled retorts.

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Seriously Clox. If you want to be a wrestling elitist, that's fine, but I'm drawing the line when you become a "post reading method" elitist.

I think Kittens and math are for fat virgins who live in their parents basement

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Me

rededicated this thread

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Kevin you are abusing your mod privelges with yr recent actions, i'm going to have to ask you to stop that right meow.

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If there was a way for me to ban someone, and have the reason for the ban show up as an image of a cat, I would ban everyone.

this thread has taken a turn for greatness.

i'd take a year just for the hell of it

sorry i realize i'm killing the joke

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I tried to find a "beating a dead horse" lolcat, but I could not.

yeah, i settled. couldnt find the "get out of my threads" lolcat

i did however find this:

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wish i had found this one sooner:

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Okay, seriously, lets get back on topic. This issue is serious business.

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but will comply