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Anybody Thrilla 02-24-2012 01:35 PM

Why am I becoming a David Otunga fan?
 
This wasn't supposed to happen.

Also, this is catchy:

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I could go for some coffee right now, too.

Your thoughts on Mr. Hudson, please.

VSG 02-24-2012 01:38 PM

He knows he is shit in the ring and has worked around it, I am a fan of him for that.

MoFo 02-24-2012 01:39 PM

Nation of Litigation represent
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lz...501lo1_400.png

I love him and his flask

XL 02-24-2012 01:41 PM

I'd say it's the fact that they are using him in a role that is perfect for him (Ass-kissing, suck-up, lawyer for the heel boss). It's not often enough that they play to people's strengths. In this case, being genuinely dislikable.

Anybody Thrilla 02-24-2012 01:42 PM

I mark out for the coffee. I love the little things in wrestling like that.

XL 02-24-2012 01:42 PM

I have my own coffee "tumbler".

Anybody Thrilla 02-24-2012 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 3779057)
I have my own coffee "tumbler".

Do you casually sip from it whilst Teddy Long berates you?

MoFo 02-24-2012 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 3779056)
I mark out for the coffee. I love the little things in wrestling like that.


http://otungasip.tumblr.com/

:lol:

Anybody Thrilla 02-24-2012 01:48 PM

For some reason, the thought of bringing coffee to the ring with you to cut a promo is hilarious to me.

CSL 02-24-2012 01:51 PM

lol that tumblr account

Lock Jaw 02-24-2012 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 3779048)
Why am I becoming a David Otunga fan?

http://www.dapperlads.com/images/pro...ties_grape.jpg

Lock Jaw 02-24-2012 01:53 PM

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Destor 02-24-2012 02:00 PM

cause he's black and on tv

Anybody Thrilla 02-24-2012 02:04 PM

22% :lol:

Nice

Jordan 02-24-2012 02:07 PM

LOL

Yeah I'm on the Ontunga boat, he's doing very well at the moment and I have enjoyed his growth as far as ring work is concerned as well.

Ermaximus 02-24-2012 02:08 PM

His ring work is terrible, but his gimmick kind of makes you not really give a shit. I'm a follower of his travel mug on Twitter.

Rammsteinmad 02-24-2012 02:53 PM

Holy shit was thinking about this at work today lol! His ring skills are still terrible, but his lawyer gimmick is great! And the flask is so random and irrelevant yet it adds so much to his character (and what has carrying coffee around with him got to do with being a lawyer).

Guy has looked fucking great though lately, body-wise (no homo).

Anybody Thrilla 02-24-2012 02:58 PM

Rammsteinmad and Otunga, sitting in a tree...

Nicky Fives 02-24-2012 03:04 PM

He's still got a ways to go to make me a fan..... he's getting better on the mic and showing personality, but he's almost as bad as Khali & Big Zeke in the ring.....

What Would Kevin Do? 02-24-2012 03:14 PM

He's pretty shitty in the ring, but besides that, I absolutely love him. He could be huge. Although I fully expect for him to "object" when someone says something he doesn't like.

Skippord 02-24-2012 03:28 PM

he sucks, but the mug is going places

RiX1024 02-24-2012 03:40 PM

I want his flask.

Cuse8 02-24-2012 03:43 PM

i have enjoyed how in his last 2 matches the crowd has chanted "you cant wrestle" at him

Wolfpack423 02-24-2012 03:53 PM

I don't know honestly. Everybody has their likes for wrestlers. David Otunga is one of the worst of all time in my opinion. I think he's one of the worst in ring competitors of all time. Of course, with more seasoning he could get better but I doubt it. I don't particularly like his gimmick, and I don't think he has good mic skills either. I'll say that I can't really recall a lawyer gimmick as a character (though he is one in real life) so they just went with it. He has no strengths in my book though.

DLVH84 02-24-2012 04:04 PM

He's a "Punk," that's why.

Lock Jaw 02-24-2012 04:22 PM

I like that he has changed from the trunks to shorts. Something about how he looked in the trunks I found disturbing.

Wishbone 02-24-2012 06:49 PM

I can't believe you guys are praising him... I mean seriously just a couple months ago everyone on here wanted the dude off their televisions and now your all jumping on the bandwagon? Otunga hasn't improved at all since his nexus days other than getting a slight tweak to his character. (which is nowhere near enough) The guy can't wrestle, and his mic skills are horrid. The only thing he's got going for him is an awesome theme song, and if that were enough then Gangrel would have been a 20 time world champion.

Lock Jaw 02-24-2012 06:54 PM

Most Awkward Pose Ever

http://www.wwe.com/f/imagecache/gall...hoto_102_1.jpg

He should probably quit it.

bigslimjj 02-24-2012 07:26 PM

He's a jobber.

#1-norm-fan 02-24-2012 07:28 PM

He's being used pretty perfectly right now. Still pretty awful... but the character works.

dingdongyo 02-24-2012 07:35 PM

i dig his carlton banks gimmick

Lock Jaw 02-24-2012 07:46 PM

http://straightfromthea.com/wp-conte...unga-Son-2.jpg

http://theturnbucklepost.com/wp-cont...fer-Hudson.jpg

Swiss Ultimate 02-24-2012 07:52 PM

How many years has he been wrestling? Including training, I mean.

Judging a lot of these new guys by how many types of holds they know and how good they are in the ring is sort of like judging six-year-olds at a college level.

Wrestling live is a learning curve. Isn't/wasn't the whole point of Tough Enough and NXT to give young guys a chance to learn the business and also get to be known nationally?

#1-norm-fan 02-24-2012 08:04 PM

http://straightfromthea.com/wp-conte...unga-Son-2.jpg

+

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lz...501lo1_400.png

Do it, someone with photoshop skills.

Wishbone 02-24-2012 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeathtotheSwiss (Post 3779398)
How many years has he been wrestling? Including training, I mean.

Judging a lot of these new guys by how many types of holds they know and how good they are in the ring is sort of like judging six-year-olds at a college level.

Wrestling live is a learning curve. Isn't/wasn't the whole point of Tough Enough and NXT to give young guys a chance to learn the business and also get to be known nationally?

True, but if he's not ready for live shows then he shouldn't be there. Send him back to developmental for a year or so to get up to par. Like you said you shouldn't judge a 6 year old on a college level, but you also shouldn't throw said 6 year old into a Harvard course either.

XCaliber 02-24-2012 10:22 PM

The new gimmick certainly has made a difference and he's shown a little bit of improvement in the ring but he's got a long ways to go before I could even consider him on my current top 25 heh.

What Would Kevin Do? 02-24-2012 11:16 PM

The pose is awesome Lockjaw, and be should do it always. Otunga may suck in the ring, but he'll be loved by the iwc real soon.

Aaronp43 02-25-2012 12:12 AM

Very simple its because your nuts Otunga sucks

#1-norm-fan 02-25-2012 12:16 AM

Are you saying his nuts is what Otunga sucks?

Or that he is nuts... because Otunga sucks?

Aaronp43 02-25-2012 12:17 AM

he is nuts... because Otunga sucks

#1-norm-fan 02-25-2012 12:20 AM

Oh okay. Because if Otunga regularly sucks his nuts, I'd say that would pretty much explain why he's a fan as well.

Tom Guycott 02-25-2012 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wishbone (Post 3779354)
I can't believe you guys are praising him... I mean seriously just a couple months ago everyone on here wanted the dude off their televisions and now your all jumping on the bandwagon? Otunga hasn't improved at all since his nexus days other than getting a slight tweak to his character. (which is nowhere near enough) The guy can't wrestle, and his mic skills are horrid. The only thing he's got going for him is an awesome theme song, and if that were enough then Gangrel would have been a 20 time world champion.

Even funnier is that the "tweak" to his gimmick is that he's now the black Chris Nowinski. Without nearly as much charisma.

I actually cringed when I saw him put Zeke away with the Sloppy Slam* after he was basically carried in the match by Jackson (which isn't saying much for Otunga's "improved" ringwork) both because it looked unsafe and the fact that this means a push for David. Yes, the character works, and he seems to be that guy in the right place at the right time- but he's the same guy who was ranked so far below Bizzaro Cena and Michael Tarver and now suddenly is getting all this magical love around here.

*As stated before, his spinebuster was once referred to as "a sloppy slam" in an NXT thread, and it has now become the offical finisher name in my head.

Dark One 02-25-2012 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 3779405)

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...sty/Otunga.jpg

#1-norm-fan 02-25-2012 01:28 AM

LOL

Tom Guycott 02-25-2012 01:30 AM

... though I will admit, that shit's funny. Should have shooped his face on the baby too.

Dark One 02-25-2012 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Guycott (Post 3779621)
... though I will admit, that shit's funny. Should have shooped his face on the baby too.

Working on it.

#1-norm-fan 02-25-2012 01:36 AM

I didn't even think about the fact that he would be covering up Jennifer Hudson. Only made it funnier.

Dark One 02-25-2012 01:38 AM

Otunga 2: The Otunganing

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...ty/Otunga2.jpg

#1-norm-fan 02-25-2012 01:39 AM

Probably the best 100th post of all time.

Juan 02-25-2012 02:47 AM

I'm also digging Otunga.

Anybody Thrilla 02-25-2012 03:48 AM

I feel bad for people who can't enjoy characters based solely on the fact that they aren't great ring technicians. Whenever I see the term "the character works, BUT...", I cringe. If the character is working, it's fucking working.

This thread has made me an even BIGGER Otunga fan in a roundabout way.

DaveWadding 02-25-2012 04:14 AM

You are likely hypnotized by his moobs.

Stealth-Icon 02-25-2012 05:00 AM

As much as I can't stand him, he is pulling off his gimmick and making it work. I will give him credit for that.

I personally hate the damn coffee thing because there is a douche bag at work that walks around with one hand in his pocket and the other holding his coffee tumbler. All he does it walk around and slips coffee. Now I am waiting for him to break into an Otunga pose.

Corporate CockSnogger 02-25-2012 08:56 AM

I'm a big fan of Laurinaitis and that fandom has definitely extended to Otunga too. He's perfect in that sidekick to the authority figure role.

Cool King 02-25-2012 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iginfest (Post 3779740)
I' a big fan of Laurinaitis and that fandom has definitely extended to Otunga too. He's perfect in that sidekick to the authority figure role.


Gertner 02-25-2012 09:09 AM

Otunga is amazing.

dronepool 02-25-2012 06:43 PM

http://i41.tinypic.com/54g460.jpg


There should be a thread based on this entire idea.

Mr. Nerfect 02-25-2012 07:47 PM

I'm finding David Otunga quite enjoyable lately. The guy is not the best in the ring, but he's getting better. The man was signed to a developmental contract in November 2008. I think he may have commenced his training then and there, with his FCW debut being in May 2009. So the guy has only really been doing this for just over three years.

The WWE would absolutely adore Otunga -- given that he's got an Academy Award Winner for a wife and has been entirely trained by the WWE team. So you better fucking get used to Otunga, because he's one day going to be a World Champion. And when he is ready, I think he will be a damn good one.

I love that on smaller opponents he uses the Emerald Fusion, too. Personally, I think it's a lot better than The Verdict (his spinebuster). I think the hunt for a permanent finisher is still on the go, however.

I'd be curious to see where Otunga goes after WrestleMania. Will John Laurinatis take over both RAW and SmackDown!? If that's the case, then I could eventually see Laurinatis leaving Otunga SmackDown! as a birthday present, or something. What would be more interesting, however, is if Teddy Long took over both shows, and Otunga had to worm his way into keeping a job.

David Otunga also holds a degree in psychology. I'd love to see that come into play one day. He should hand out different cards to people:

David Daniel Otunga, Sr.
Legal Advisor

David Daniel Otunga, Sr.
Mental Specialist

David Daniel Otunga, Sr.
Talent Agent

David Daniel Otunga, Sr.
Sports Entertainer and Professional Ass-Kicker

dronepool 02-25-2012 07:51 PM

http://i39.tinypic.com/2cczh1.jpg

KIRA 02-25-2012 10:00 PM

Hes such a smug bastard I like it.

and yea his short trunks made me afraid he was gonna strip glad he switched.

Tom Guycott 02-25-2012 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 3779678)
I feel bad for people who can't enjoy characters based solely on the fact that they aren't great ring technicians. Whenever I see the term "the character works, BUT...", I cringe. If the character is working, it's fucking working.

This thread has made me an even BIGGER Otunga fan in a roundabout way.

I think for taking the shot at me, you missed the point.

I don't care that he isn't the next Bret Hart in the ring so much as seeing him deliver a spinebuster to... ANYONE looks less like "thats devistating" and more like "holy shit, is that guy alright? that didn't look too good." Otunga seems like he's running on luck that he hasn't injured anyone yet. He's sloppy in execution, and someone is going to get hurt not from some random, unlucky bad break, but from him being kinda lax with his tosses and slams. I fail to see how this is a bad thing for "Flippy McFlipperflips in the indys because he could hurt someone", but a guy who's in the "major leagues" as it were (and is supposed to be better) gets a pass for not merely asthetically ugly, but dangerously shitty ringwork just because he sips coffee from a Thermos with comedic pretention.

Again, "right place, right time" for Otunga. Can't really fault him for taking advantage of what he's being given. Yes, the kiss-ass gimmick is working for him. Good for him. But how many people that are on Superstars duty right now could pull off this exact gimmick and still be less apt to injure somone in-ring?

Quote:

Originally Posted by dronepool (Post 3780058)
http://i41.tinypic.com/54g460.jpg


There should be a thread based on this entire idea.

Agreed... although, he'd make a good Carlton. Also, that's the wrong Aunt Viv.

DaVe 02-26-2012 05:42 AM

otunga's allright, been growing since his new placement along side Laurinitis.

I thought his theme was really good, but having just listened to it completely, I think its just the chorus that's awesome.

addy2hotty 02-26-2012 06:28 AM

I've liked Otunga since NXT tbh.

I always wished they'd done more with his attempts to take over Nexus against Barrett.

Autobahn 02-26-2012 07:01 AM

The guy should continue to play to his strengths and just be an out of ring character like Big Johnny.

Gertner 02-26-2012 09:09 AM

Otunga and John play really well off each other.

Theo Dious 02-26-2012 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 3779048)
Why am I becoming a David Otunga fan?

Because he's fucking awesome.

GD 02-26-2012 10:06 AM

I love Brotunga's association with Johnny Ace. I am not a fan of his in-ring capabilities, but I admire his physique after watching him up close at a live show.

Anybody Thrilla 02-26-2012 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Guycott (Post 3780265)
I think for taking the shot at me, you missed the point.

I don't care that he isn't the next Bret Hart in the ring so much as seeing him deliver a spinebuster to... ANYONE looks less like "thats devistating" and more like "holy shit, is that guy alright? that didn't look too good." Otunga seems like he's running on luck that he hasn't injured anyone yet. He's sloppy in execution, and someone is going to get hurt not from some random, unlucky bad break, but from him being kinda lax with his tosses and slams. I fail to see how this is a bad thing for "Flippy McFlipperflips in the indys because he could hurt someone", but a guy who's in the "major leagues" as it were (and is supposed to be better) gets a pass for not merely asthetically ugly, but dangerously shitty ringwork just because he sips coffee from a Thermos with comedic pretention.

Again, "right place, right time" for Otunga. Can't really fault him for taking advantage of what he's being given. Yes, the kiss-ass gimmick is working for him. Good for him. But how many people that are on Superstars duty right now could pull off this exact gimmick and still be less apt to injure somone in-ring?



Agreed... although, he'd make a good Carlton. Also, that's the wrong Aunt Viv.

It really wasn't a shot at you specifically, but I can see how you would take it that way. Sorry about that. I've encountered a lot of people on these boards over the years who can't stand guys simply based on their ring work, refusing to be entertained by anything else they do.

Can anyone else do Otunga's gimmick better than Otunga right now, though? I'd have to say no. Who else actually is a Harvard graduate with a psychology degree and a practicing lawyer who is married to Jennifer Hudson? You could put those tags on anyone, I suppose, but it wouldn't feel organic at all. He's got a lot to work with, and he's doing well with it, I feel.

Vastardikai 02-26-2012 04:34 PM

Otunga has a great gimmick, no doubt. I just think it's best for him and the long term safety of everyone who works with him if he just plays the annoying heel on the outside, throwing maybe a punch behind the ref's back at most. As in being a manager. As in NOT WRESTLING. Because he's terrible at wrestling.

Blakeamus 02-26-2012 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dronepool (Post 3780058)
http://i41.tinypic.com/54g460.jpg


There should be a thread based on this entire idea.

I'll raise you...

Tom Guycott 02-26-2012 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 3780569)
It really wasn't a shot at you specifically, but I can see how you would take it that way. Sorry about that. I've encountered a lot of people on these boards over the years who can't stand guys simply based on their ring work, refusing to be entertained by anything else they do.

Can anyone else do Otunga's gimmick better than Otunga right now, though? I'd have to say no. Who else actually is a Harvard graduate with a psychology degree and a practicing lawyer who is married to Jennifer Hudson? You could put those tags on anyone, I suppose, but it wouldn't feel organic at all. He's got a lot to work with, and he's doing well with it, I feel.

I get you. Trust me, I am by no means a "workrate nazi". Don't get me wrong, I love seeing guys and girls that can go. However, I'm the same guy who goes so far as to refer to Gangrel as "The Starmaker", and see Jack Swagger as "Kurt Angle in his prime, only with a lobotomy". I agree that David's out of ring stuff is progressing, and he could be a monster heel manager or some other such character. I don't have so much of an issue with that in and of itself.

What I was getting at is that his success with the coffee and bowtie portions are gaining him a push in-ring. Someone else could be using that push. Was Clarence Mason a real lawyer? Or Harvey Whippleman? This is wrestling. They don't actually HAVE to have a degree, be a real lawyer, or have a name-droppable wife to be portrayed as a weasly legal counsultant.

Hanso Amore 02-27-2012 12:07 AM

I love Otunga. Since NXT day one. Look back at the threads. knew he had IT on the mic, and he is still progressing in the ring.

Im all for modern day characters. THE LAWYER makes way more sense today than 1991.


Also get Guycott, but I think they want him to be over in the ring, not as a manager/Lawyer. They want that Rub to go into his ring work.

Destor 02-27-2012 12:22 AM

heres the facts: when the bell rings the audience tunes out. so his gimmick isnt "working" as claimed in this thread. people are still not interested in him. mostly because he cant work and to top it off his promos are awful too. being a meme isnt selling tickets or merch no matter how much you wish it was.

guy doesnt have to work like hart and talk like rhodes to be over. he should start by trying to better than linda mcmahon and mike ademle. baby steps. guys hold a coffee mug like a champ tho.

and its good to see his recent push is working on someone, maybe more people will be sweapt up, good booking has gotten a lot of garbage over in the past.

SlickyTrickyDamon 02-27-2012 12:24 AM

He's playing the character well enough I just don't think he should be wrestling. Also I don't think he should be put over in matches if he has to step into the ring.

I also want to know why he needs to drink coffee during Raw. Obviously the writing is putting him to sleep?

Mr. Nerfect 02-27-2012 06:01 AM

I'd like to see Otunga play more of a non-wrestling role, true, but he'll get better in time. You can tell from some of the Tweets the guy has made before that he's a true fan of the business.


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